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Why I dumped the Nexus 7 and kept the Kindle Fire HD

Full disclosure here. I have had every version of the iPad to date and love version 3. BUT.. it is just a bit too big so I've been looking for something a bit smaller for quite a while. I've bought and sold a number of 7 or 8 inch tablets, Samsung, Pandigital, Ainol to name a few and ended up selling them on. The Pandigital was the most fun. I just hung on to the coat-tails of the smart boys who hacked the hell out of it and made it more than what it was. When the Nexus 7 was released it looked like I had a new best friend but there was nowhere to try the darn thing so I held off. When good old Jeff announced the Fire HD I was intrigued and when there was one on display at Best Buy I fondled it and bought one.
The one thing I really like about the iPad is the aspect ratio of 4:3. Everything has gone to 16:9 and I detest the bloody ratio. I purposely stayed away from them both at home and work and have Dell 16:10 ultrabrights and love them. I have gone from T-Mobile S2 to Note and refuse to look at the S3 or Note 2 because the screens have become longer and thinner. Don't even get me started on the iPhone 5 :silly: I seldom watch movies on a small screen or monitor and with the iPad it is apps like Zite or magazines or comics and it excels at that.
OK, now before you start saying that the screen on the Fire HD and Nexus 7 are the same.... yes I agree. Same aspect ratio but not quite same colour saturation etc, but where the Fire HD beats the Nexus 7 for me is that the Nexus 7 looks and feels far longer and thinner. In reality it is only a smidgen longer but the decrease of width makes it feel like a sausage. I don't have massive hands and to be honest I don't find there to be much difference holding either the Nexus 7 or the Fire HD.
Initially, the closed wall and adverts of the Fire HD were off-putting rather than annoying, but after rooting, which ultimately needed installing the SDK to get my computer to be able to ADB into it, and now there is a hack to remove adverts, the device has grown on me. I was able to install the Play Store and pull down apps like Bloomberg, Aldiko, Currents, MX Player and Skype. I couldn't get Zite but I pulled it from my phone and sideloaded it. I installed Gmail and set up my personal and office mails. The one thing I couldn't get to work was QQ Launcher. ADW launcher works but I find myself using it less and less as I just go to the Apps tab.
Now I can easily watch videos or read ePub files with no problem. I have pretty much most of the things I have on my iPad and I find the size and weight of the Fire HD to be very comfortable.
There was definitely an extra smoothness with the Nexus 7 but was it a "holy mackrel, that just blew my eyelids off".....? Nope. The Fire HD works and works fast enough. The only real slowness, if you could call it that, is a slight hesitancy in scrolling PDFs which have been zoomed. The screen is definitely better than the nexus 7, and if it was possible to get QQ Launcher to run then for me the darn thing would be perfect.
The Nexus 7 was a nice unit. Fast and hackable to the cows came home but the long and thin of it ultimately killed it for me. Also one thing I noticed was that with Zite for example, the Nexus 7 rendered it slightly different to the Fire HD. Text was smaller and not quite so clear. There was also something that may have been a bit dodgy about the Nexus 7 and it was very reluctant to switch on at times. I had to plug it into a power source and then it fired up. The battery was almost fully charged but sometimes it just refused to wake up.
So there you have it, one guys absolutely, purely subjective, non scientific rational as to why the Nexus 7 went back this morning and the Fire HD is still here. Your mileage may differ.

I have similar prefs. I like iPad's 4:3 AR, and prefer a reader for "print" media rather than videos. But I also want a larger size than 7" since legibility matters more than portability.
Presently, my eyes are set on the Nook HD+ for its 3:2 AR, not quite as good as 4:3, but better than the standard 16:10. Since I want it mostly for reading and web browsing (in portrait mode), I don't need cam/GPS/HDMI. But I don't want to be stuck in B&N eco, so am waiting to see if it can be unlocked, or at a minimum rooted.
I like the Nook HD+'s $269 price, which is about the same as the Nexus 7 16GB. The KFHD 9 is $309 w/ charger, and it has 16:10 AR and no SD expansion.

I have a Nexus 7 and picked up a Kindle Fire HD. I'm thinking about switching for other reasons. But I actually think the feel of the Nexus 7 is one thing in it's favor. Both tablets have the same 16:10 sized screen, it's only the bezel that is more narrow on the Nexus 7. And that narrow bezel makes it a lot easier to wrap my hand around the back on portrait mode. While the Kindle Fire is larger and heavier. I can wrap my hand around the Fire HD too, but it's not as comfortable to hold that way.
PS. Though one thing the Fire HD has in it's favor for people that like 4:3 ratios is it's on screen buttons and menu do a much better job of getting out of the way. So I have more screen spaces on the Fire HD than the Nexus 7.

I went the other way around. I started with the KFHD and about after a week, I picked up the N7 and unfortunately, the KFHD is going back to Amazon. I love the better colors, sound and more solid feel but at the end of the day, KFHD is a severely gimped version of android. Amazon left out enough code that this device will never fully function as a true android device without a custom ROM. Rooting helps but not enough. Different strokes for different folks, it just depends on what you want to use the device for. The Amazon entertainment ecosystem just isn't for me.
P.S. I have smaller hands but I prefer the thinness of the N7 over the KFHD. Its easier to hold with one hand, IMO.

I chose the Fire HD over the Nexus 7 also. Couldn't be happier.
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It just depends your taste.

I'm thinking of getting a Kindle Fire HD for my dad. He's not that Android savvy, but appreciates a device he can put his music and videos on. And a simple UI. Is this a better device compared to the Nexus 7 for these purposes?
Also, I suppose I can root the device and increase the space allocated for personal content?

fuyoo said:
I'm thinking of getting a Kindle Fire HD for my dad. He's not that Android savvy, but appreciates a device he can put his music and videos on. And a simple UI. Is this a better device compared to the Nexus 7 for these purposes?
Also, I suppose I can root the device and increase the space allocated for personal content?
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Hmm... For me I'd think the primary reason to get a Kindle Fire HD is if you are an Amazon user. Because you give up quite a bit in the way of customizability and apps with the Kindle OS. However the UI is pretty simple and easy to use and if he's okay with the limited app selection and primarily wants it for music and videos. Then he'll really like the better looking screen and much better speakers.
The 16GB model comes with 12.63GB available to the user. So I don't think there is any need to reallocate space (it's no like the Nook Color).

fuyoo said:
I'm thinking of getting a Kindle Fire HD for my dad. He's not that Android savvy, but appreciates a device he can put his music and videos on. And a simple UI. Is this a better device compared to the Nexus 7 for these purposes?
Also, I suppose I can root the device and increase the space allocated for personal content?
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If someone has never used or owned an android device, phone or tablet, then the Nexus 7 will have a learning curve. Not so much for the KFHD, Amazon keeps it pretty simple and easy to navigate. If I just wanted a pure entertainment device, then I would of stayed with the KFHD. Whispersync is great for readers, which you get with the KFHD, not to mention you can send documents and books to your kindle email and hosted by Amazon. The screen and speakers are fantastic. Amazon app store is limited compared to the google play store but there are ways around that.
The N7 is more of a general purpose device (handles video just fine, sound could be better but its fine with headphones) but the world is at your finger tips..

Well I'm not rooted on either and I still prefer using the KFHD to tell the truth. I just installed an alternate launcher on the kfhd so I'm happy to get away from the carousel.
The video quality? No way is the Nexus 7 equal to the KFHd, not to my eyes. As mentioned, the color on the kfhd blows away the Nexus 7 and color is part of the video quality equation as far as I'm concerned. And the audio quality on the KFHD blows the Nexus 7 as well. And is the ppi on the Nexus 7 even equal to the KFHD?
Read reviews. There are enough that mentioned the video quality isn't up to snuff on the Nexus 7.
And the build quality? Well I was fortunate to get a good Nexus 7 from Walmart but there is enough written from folks who have had issues.
Apps? Well I can sideload and I have more than enough to keep me happy with the kfhd. I equate it to channels on a TV. So what if someone has far more than another, as long as you have the ones you want to watch who cares!
If I decide to get the Nook Hd +, the Nexus 7 will be the one I trade in.

How does the Fire HD compare to the Nexus 7 AFTER ROOTING AND CHANGING THE LAUNCHER

How does the operation of the device compare to the Nexus 7 after you have rooted it and changed the launcher?
Curious to those that have done.

I completely changed the look and feel of the Kindle Fire HD. It is a better looking and longer battery lasting tablet than the tablets being compared to it. The HD picture is vibrant and the colors are warm. With the new launcher, it feels like a bigger version of my Galaxy S III without the Phone and Messaging. I could NOT be happier that I grabbed this KFHD, rather than settling for the Nexus7.

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I completely changed the look and feel of the Kindle Fire HD. It is a better looking and longer battery lasting tablet than the tablets being compared to it. The HD picture is vibrant and the colors are warm. With the new launcher, it feels like a bigger version of my Galaxy S III without the Phone and Messaging. I could NOT be happier that I grabbed this KFHD, rather than settling for the Nexus7.
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Exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thank you! :good: :laugh: :highfive:

Rooted KFHD with alternative launcher is still nothing compared to a stock nexus 7, if you want fully functional google services. Amazon took out code that is in a full fledged android device. Such as if you side load google talk, you can't get video and voice. There is no voice search functions because Amazon took out components even though the possibility is there. Its a pain if you want another keyboard or even to customize your interface. Google play can be side loaded but not everything will recognize the KFHD.
It honestly depends on what you want. If you have Amazon prime and love entertainment, the KFHD is a great device. If you want an all rounded tablet, then you want the N7. In my honest opinion, I loved the KFHD hardware but the software killed the device for me. I wasn't going to wait and hope one day the bootloader will be cracked and custom roms made. I did not like the feeling of having a half gimped device.
I returned the KFHD and kept the N7.

alkemist80 said:
Rooted KFHD with alternative launcher is still nothing compared to a stock nexus 7, if you want fully functional google services. Amazon took out code that is in a full fledged android device. Such as if you side load google talk, you can't get video and voice. There is no voice search functions because Amazon took out components even though the possibility is there. Its a pain if you want another keyboard or even to customize your interface. Google play can be side loaded but not everything will recognize the KFHD.
It honestly depends on what you want. If you have Amazon prime and love entertainment, the KFHD is a great device. If you want an all rounded tablet, then you want the N7. In my honest opinion, I loved the KFHD hardware but the software killed the device for me. I wasn't going to wait and hope one day the bootloader will be cracked and custom roms made. I did not like the feeling of having a half gimped device.
I returned the KFHD and kept the N7.
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That is a very insightful response haha. Really. I figured as much but its cool to know that these things are true - instead of wondering what the hell is wrong with the apps. I will use my KFHD with what I've got for now and Ill just wait for that day that we can crack these bootloaders and get custom roms. Praise allaaaaahhhhhh.

caponea6 said:
I will use my KFHD with what I've got for now and Ill just wait for that day that we can crack these bootloaders and get custom roms.
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I'll kick myself the day that happens but right now I'm happy with my decision.
On a side note for the OP, If anything, you can purchase both devices, play test and return what you don't want. I felt bad doing that but it's still hard to find the N7 let alone having it on display. I thought I would be happy with the KFHD when I pre-ordered and then after using it, I started to have more and more doubts after digging around and playing with it.

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I spent about 2 weeks debating this same question. finally managed to get my hands on both devices and it really comes down to what you plan on using it for. For multimedia the KF HD was the clear winner for me and as thats what most my use is going to be. In terms of options the nexus 7 seems to have more currently.
What settled it for me was the screen was nicer, the sound was much better and overall the KFHD is able to meet my needs.

I forgot to mention that I found the KFHD battery to be very finicky. It didn't like to have the wifi location services on all the time. It drained my batter like no tomorrow. Also I had to be careful on what I installed. Even something as a pandora widget (that never has been used) will keep the device from deep sleep. I got power issues right off the bat.
Also if you use anything to alter the hidden battery settings, such as using spare parts to keep wifi on all the time (even though it should be unless you turn wifi off), there is no way to set it back to normal without a reset.
I had battery problems right away with the KFHD but I noticed that my N7 out of the box was doing pretty good. I really had to dig around and babysit everything but once I figured out my issues, battery life on standby was much better, but these are issues that we shouldn't have to worry about from the get go.
ADW and Go launcher did not seem to cause me any battery issues, so they should be safe to use.

I did not root, just sideloaded adw launcher ex to the kfhd.
Longer story shorter, I use the kfhd more than the Nexus 7 which I also own.

robertc88 said:
I did not root, just sideloaded adw launcher ex to the kfhd.
Longer story shorter, I use the kfhd more than the Nexus 7 which I also own.
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May try this as I'm not sure I want to fool with rooting the KFHD.

I can't decide which one I like better, I haven't been able to go hands on with the Fire HD yet though. I love my transformer Infinity, and I loved the TF101 I had before it, my friend has the nexus 7, and from what I've played with it I like it a lot. Asus is a great company and bar none has the best update record of any manufacturer. If you're interested in a futureproof google device, get the nexus, if you want a 7" iPad's usability and family features that the Fire HD offers, go that route.

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Rooted KFHD with alternative launcher is still nothing compared to a stock nexus 7, if you want fully functional google services. Amazon took out code that is in a full fledged android device. Such as if you side load google talk, you can't get video and voice. There is no voice search functions because Amazon took out components even though the possibility is there. Its a pain if you want another keyboard or even to customize your interface. Google play can be side loaded but not everything will recognize the KFHD.
It honestly depends on what you want. If you have Amazon prime and love entertainment, the KFHD is a great device. If you want an all rounded tablet, then you want the N7. In my honest opinion, I loved the KFHD hardware but the software killed the device for me. I wasn't going to wait and hope one day the bootloader will be cracked and custom roms made. I did not like the feeling of having a half gimped device.
I returned the KFHD and kept the N7.
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I agree, I'm in love with my N7 now because of the Google Now integration and amazing voice command/search response among many other elements.
Also, the GPU in the N7 is really something special. Couple that with the Tegra 3 and it's a reassuring element of knowing it will be a very long time before this tablet is out of date. Feels good having something that will continue to be the cream of the crop (in the $200 price range) for a very very long time.

If your someone that likes the newest software, the nexus devices will see it first being pure google devices. Right now I'm enjoying my jelly bean and can't wait to see what 4.2 will hold, while Amazon will be.. Amazon.

[Q] Thinking of buying Nexus7 to replace Kindle Fire HD - worth it?

I got a Kindle Fire HD the other day - at first I loved it but the mods amazon have done to android are starting to annoy me now. I've rooted it and installed another home screen (go launcher HD) but getting simple things done involves messing about and hacking that I would rather not have to do. I'm considering buying a Nexus7 now - not sure if i'll be able to take the kindle back for a refund or just have to take a financial hit there. My question is, is it worth doing? Is the Nexus a lot better?
Cheers
Dean

I went from the regular Kindle Fire to the Nexus 7 [gave the Fire to my mom...]. I was torn between the Fire HD and the Nexus, but decided on the Nexus to give me a full Android experience. I can still use the Kindle app to read books and Amazon's MP3 app to give me access to my music which is all stored on Amazon's cloud. For me, this was the right choice.

PromaneX said:
I got a Kindle Fire HD the other day - at first I loved it but the mods amazon have done to android are starting to annoy me now. I've rooted it and installed another home screen (go launcher HD) but getting simple things done involves messing about and hacking that I would rather not have to do. I'm considering buying a Nexus7 now - not sure if i'll be able to take the kindle back for a refund or just have to take a financial hit there. My question is, is it worth doing? Is the Nexus a lot better?
Cheers
Dean
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The Nexus 7 will give you all the pure Android experience, and all the freedom that goes with it, but you may find the screen on the Kindle Fire HD to be better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33755719&postcount=68

I have a Nexus 7 and it was a no-brainer for me. The kindle HD is nice, but I like the full Google experience. Plus you're more likely to see updates because you won't have to go through proprietary companies before Google pushes an update. I got my wife the HD and she loves it. But she reads mostly and she likes Amazon Prime's free book per month thing. We compared video playback using Netflix. The HD was just a tad brighter, but the colors and resolution looked better in the Nexus. The HD is a nice tablet...but if you like customization and care about updates - the Nexus is the way to go.
There may be someone like you that had a Nexus and wants the HD...try CL to see if someone will trade. Otherwise, sell the HD (you should still be able to get a good price) and if you have some Xbox out PlayStation games you don't want, trade them in at GameStop and use the credit towards a Nexus. Yes, they sell the Nexus there. That's where I got mine and used the game credit to get the 16GB version.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

Thanks everyone - I think I'll go for the Nexus and either sell the kindle or give it to a family member - Guess you'll be seeing a lot more of me around this section once I get it

Been comparing these two for ages.
Differences are:
1. Build quality. Kindle appears to be a better build (I've used both).
2. Screen. Kindle is better, especially for reading and at different angles
3. WiFi. Kindle is dual band and is faster
4. Sound. Kindle is dolby stereo and better
5. Innards / CPU. Nexus has a faster CPU and GPU, with some games specifically optimised for it. Kindle I used appeared to have significant lag at times.
6. OS. Kindle uses a skinned version of an earlier version of Android. It cannot do everything the Nexus can and is not as compatible with things the Nexus is. The Nexus is likely to get the latest android updates, the kindle may never get them.
7. Play Store: The Kindle uses its own store and has less apps in it. Many apps will not work with the Kindle.
8. Google Play Music: This is not supported currently on the Kindle
9. Camera. The camera on the Kindle cannot be used as a camera as no app currently exists for it. This is not the case with the Nexus
10. GPS. The Kindle does not have a GPS in it (Kindle Fire HD does, but has no apps to use it as yet)
11. HDMI Out: The Kindle has this. The Nexus does not.
12. Charger. The Nexus comes with a charger. The kindle you have to buy one seperatley or use a slower USB to microusb charger.
13. Size. The Kindle is a little larger. This makes it harder to hold in one hand or pocket easily. However, it gives a nice bezel to hold while reading
14. Battery. Kindle battery life is on paper slightly better than the Nexus. (11.5 vs 9.5 hrs)
15. NFC. Nexus has it. Kindle does not.
16. Magnetometer. Nexus has it. Kindle does not
17. Bluetooth. Nexus has it. Kindle does not - bit odd leaving that out.
So... the Nexus is better, but possibly not as well built and does not have as good sound or screen. Its also possibly going to be stuck on its current OS level and not get all the new and nice upgrades. Your favourite apps may not work on it.

If it annoys you, then you will be happy with the N7!!!!
I was in the exact same shoes and I'm extremely happy I made the switch. No matter how you say it, the KFHD is nothing but a gimped android device with the amazon system running, including using custom launcher.
Dev's are working on a boot strap for the KFHD but it's still in early development and not to mention waiting for (stable) rom.
You'll be happy with the N7 out of the box.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Went out and got the 32gb n7 today and gave the kidnle to the gf. I LOVE the nexus! Really happy that I got it! Thanks to everyone who helped me make the choice

My review of 8.9

I've not posted in this forum yet. I've used xda to root several android devices. I've owned or still have nooks, fire, Acer 500, Asus prime, and Asus infinity. I got the hd fully knowing what I was getting. I wanted a media tablet. I'm doing about 90% of my computer time on tablets and wanted to play media and compute at the same time.
Why the hd 8.9?
7 in tablets are good for a lot of things . They are easy to hold and typing is easier. They are easier to carry. However I'm in my sixties and my vision is not what it used to be. I like a bigger screen and wanted something that is easier to type on than 10in. Tablets. I also wanted something a little easier to carry. I wanted hd playback and really wanted something close to my infinity in screen quality. I didn't want to spend $500.I use Amazon prime. I am not an Apple fan. I heard a review about sound quality, that impressed me. With its price the hd was not a hard decision.
What I like.
I am not disappointed. The biggest wow is the sound. I use volume boost on my other tablets and the hd blows them out of the water. Both in volume and sound quality.
I played a hd video on YouTube, comparing hd with infinity. I believe both have 240 resolution. Video looked great on both tablets. Flesh tones looked better on hd. Again no disappointment.
Lots of selections in Amazon app store, and its not that hard to side load apps. I would guess 90% of programs I've downloaded work fine. I use dropbox to transfer programs. Amazon has box app, but I have had no problems with dropbox so that's what I use. Go to their site and download app using silk. Since I have access to Google play with other android tablets, I just upload and download through cloud storage. Use a friend's tablet to do what I'm doing.
I like the email app. Email and calender sync to gmail and its simple to use. Silk web browser works just fine. It's not the fanciest but works just fine. I've had lots more problems with other tablets web browsers. Predictive text is working pretty good on this thing.
WiFi is another reason I like hd, and I was pleasantly pleased when I realized it can operate on the 5000 band.
What I don't like
I'm not going into the Amazon skin issue because it is what it is, and it does a good job front ending Amazon. If you don't like it you can root it. Don't know if I will, but someday when I'm board I probably will.
I would like a hair more grip on the back. This is better than my other tablets but little more would be great.
Sometimes I'm getting poor or no key response. Probably will get fixed in upgrade.
My favorite keyboard sideloaded but the side menu didn't close and blocked part of the keyboard and I couldn't use to. I wish option bar collapsed or I could move it to the bottom having said that I like where the back key is. It's really handy where it's at both exposed hidden. Easy thumb operation.
I wish charging port and hdmi was on the side. Their in the way if you use some sort of bracket or want to rest bottom on something. Not all apps rotate all the way around.
Overall I'm very happy with kindle fire hd 8.9. In its simplest form it's easy to use. Most applications people will use are already here. Not having YouTube is a problem but YouTube downloader app in Amazon store will work. Elsewhere on hd threads there is a instructions to get YouTube without root that works.
What makes this tablet different than anything in its price range is the high performance features. I would have no problem getting this for my mom or recommend this to anyone that wants a tablet to just work. There is a kids mode that I don't need but have heard is very good as well.
No buyers regret here, even though I'm watching ces. Chuckle, always ces envy. I am very happy with my hd.
Woody
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Review 8.9" Kindle Fire HD
woodsonmh,
Very nice review. Some of this review reflects my experience with the Kindle 7" HD. I completely agree with
your review regarding the sound. We own about 40 Tablets (company wide) and the Kindle is by far the best
sounding tablet out of the group when watching movies. I am sure this is in part due to Dolby running in the
background. I am also impressed with the coating over the glass. They have something embedded that
reduces glare to an absolute minimum. So when we use the Kindle outdoors, we are not overcome with sun
glare and reflection. Thank you again for the review and welcome to the Kindle General forum.

Gotta say the sound is awesome on the kindle 2nd gen (non hd)
Even without the dolby... i really think it's the speakers above the dolby since i compared the sound with the hd model and found very little difference in quality and volume.
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mindmajick said:
Gotta say the sound is awesome on the kindle 2nd gen (non hd)
Even without the dolby... i really think it's the speakers above the dolby since i compared the sound with the hd model and found very little difference in quality and volume.
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mindmajick,
Wow, even the Kindle Fire 2? When I really notice Dolby is when I use headphones. We just purchased a Nexus 10
and Note II when comparing a Movie against the Kindle 7" HD, the sound and clarity on the HD clearly surpasses
the Not II and the Nexus 10. There is absolutely no noise when cranked up, whereas the Nexus 10 has a hiss when
it is cranked up. This is great stuff mindmajick, good to know and pass onto our customers. I really love the XDA
Community.:good:

Yup. Even on the kindle 2
I was actually gonna buy a 7" nexus tab but when i went to the store there were 10 in stock. All returns for faulty hardware. I bought the kindle 2nd gen KNOWING it would be hackable and with solid hardware.
Cyanogenmod will come in time. My current phone is the skyrocket. Again i bought it for the hardware and not the stock os.
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Dropped my nexus 7 one to many times

Dropped my nexus 7 one to many times, lost the warranty card so i don't know my serial Asus wants 65.00 to reserial + warnty repair 165.00 more than a new one so thinking kindle fire hd 7 inch.
wanted to know
1 once its rooted and i have Google play installed, will i be able to run my purchased apps with out issues (as long as the os is compatible like apex launcher pro?
2 what os runs on the fire and how is the sound is it really as good as the adds... it looks pretty sweet, how dose the screen compare for example to my dead nexus 7.
3 can we get rid of most of the bloatware /interface without wiping out the amazon prime features.
i have a prime account.
4 any known quality issues with the fire , its not a asus made device for example.
thanks

AW: Dropped my nexus 7 one to many times
1 once its rooted and i have Google play installed, will i be able to run my purchased apps with out issues (as long as the os is compatible like apex launcher pro?
I think you will be able to install all your purchased apps.
If it's about compatibility try "markethelper" it's in the forum.
2 what os runs on the fire and how is the sound is it really as good as the adds... it looks pretty sweet, how dose the screen compare for example to my dead nexus 7?
Kindle runs android ics. Sound is just great,nexus 7 sound is a joke dunno about the screen but shouldn't be worse than nexus.
3 can we get rid of most of the bloatware /interface without wiping out the amazon prime features.
i have a prime account.
Yes you can get rid of the bloatware (ads) for free. Try "kfhd x settings"
4 any known quality issues with the fire , its not a asus made device for example.
I didn't know Asus that famous for quality
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viro18 said:
2 what os runs on the fire and how is the sound is it really as good as the adds... it looks pretty sweet, how dose the screen compare for example to my dead nexus 7?
Kindle runs android ics. Sound is just great,nexus 7 sound is a joke dunno about the screen but shouldn't be worse than nexus.
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Just wanted to clarify that it's not the full ICS. Amazon took ICS and stripped it down for it's purposes. Google Play is not available right off the bat. You will have to root your Kindle in order to install Google Play. After you get Google Play, most of the functionality you get with a nexus you could replicate on the Kindle, however some features here and there might not work as smoothly.
You also have the option to install a custom ROM (depending on which version of the Kindle you get). However, installing a ROM has been known to pose some issues with Amazon's services; such as streaming Prime videos.

use kinology rom for a more ics feel

Protomartyr said:
Just wanted to clarify that it's not the full ICS. Amazon took ICS and stripped it down for it's purposes. Google Play is not available right off the bat. You will have to root your Kindle in order to install Google Play. After you get Google Play, most of the functionality you get with a nexus you could replicate on the Kindle, however some features here and there might not work as smoothly.
You also have the option to install a custom ROM (depending on which version of the Kindle you get). However, installing a ROM has been known to pose some issues with Amazon's services; such as streaming Prime videos.
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knew about rooting and having to install g play
but thanks mostly worried that my apps and games would not load. but those were answered above. and of coarse getting rid of the adds.
custom roms might do it if they didn't messup prime hd video and books. but don't really care about books i have 2000+ titles in pdf im slowly converting to kd3 using calibrate eBook manager, kindle is just a better reader than acrobat.....
was never to hot about the sound and screen lifting issue with asus wonderful quality control are making me seriously think about switching would have gotten the fire over the nexus if it had been out when i got my nexus. i got the sams club extended warranty but i don't think it would cover the drop (going to try). and they wont touch it till the factory warranty is up. so go figure. another 20.00 wasted.

WOOT ! Something went right. figured WTF my warranty is void so i poped the back off my nexus and found out what the problem was. the dam wire harness from the battery was routed wrong (black wire went around a pin and was pulling on the connector, so when i dropped it i was just enough to pull the connector out on that side. fixed the wire and pushed the connector so it was fully seated and booted the thing up. bam right back in and its working.:laugh::good:

Glad you got it fixed nexus 7 and kfhd are different beasts...
The kindle is a brick you won't hurt it like you can a nexus the screen it's about the same in viewing quality...
But it's lack of a true os grows a person weary, all in all tho the kfhd is a good solid device that mostly gives an android experience with a launcher installed
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viro18 said:
1 once its rooted and i have Google play installed, will i be able to run my purchased apps with out issues (as long as the os is compatible like apex launcher pro?
I think you will be able to install all your purchased apps.
If it's about compatibility try "markethelper" it's in the forum.
2 what os runs on the fire and how is the sound is it really as good as the adds... it looks pretty sweet, how dose the screen compare for example to my dead nexus 7?
Kindle runs android ics. Sound is just great,nexus 7 sound is a joke dunno about the screen but shouldn't be worse than nexus.
3 can we get rid of most of the bloatware /interface without wiping out the amazon prime features.
i have a prime account.
Yes you can get rid of the bloatware (ads) for free. Try "kfhd x settings"
4 any known quality issues with the fire , its not a asus made device for example.
I didn't know Asus that famous for quality
thanks
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Sorry to break it to you, but the kindle runs a extremely altered version ics. Just users ics for the settings.
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