A little bit of an odd thing to come to light for me, but I have a good hunch that the white color devices have a higher build quality vs the grey ones.
I may go so far as to say that there are slight variances outside of just the color. ...or they were build on different assembly lines...or with different QC on batches because of whatever reason you want to put there....or any number of things.
Now, here is what I base this on. I have gone through a number of white and grey devices for personal use. At least two white and two grey models. It is not exactly a scientific testing, by any means, but with the white tablets I found very solid in terms of no creaking, no light leakage, and just overall solid feel. The grey tablets had creaking, pen not staying in properly, and light leakage, among other things.
I have two boys, 2 and 3 years old, that love playing with Daddy's tablet, and a wife that uses it for personal and school use (until she gets her own tablet here in the next couple weeks). So I have put each of the devices through their paces.
So, mainly for fun and intrigue, I wanted to see if anyone could share any good or bad build feel or issues they have and what color they have. Anyone else have some insight?
Maybe because our beloved devices are built in different factories and/or comapnies there might be quality differences and/or also the parts for assembly do come from different manufacturers ...............................
Mine is black (not gray) and no problems at all, although this is my second one. The first had light leakage.
2 young boys? Get the toughest case you can find. I recommend a silicone case with good screen protector.
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.......... but always better than iPhone 5 that comes with scratches and leakages in series ......... :silly::laugh:
It's because Samsung is racist.
On the real though I've had both a white one and a gray/black one. No difference in quality on this end.
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Mine is black (not gray) and no problems at all, although this is my second one. The first had light leakage.
2 young boys? Get the toughest case you can find. I recommend a silicone case with good screen protector.
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I dont think silicone is a good idea. I experience it my self. Due to its semi hard material, Silicone case do scratch my bezel when some dirt is between the bezel n the case. I think tpu is a more better case..
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I noticed the same thing that i almost weighed this white one last night in lab. Feels much more sturdier, no squeaking yet, and when i read the reviews from sites that had the grey one it kind of confirmed my suspicion. There is somethinig definitely more stable with the white one in my opinion. My grey one had six "scratches" on the back even though it was in the case 99% of the time - which didn't make sense. Then when i read androidpolice's review and saw the same six scratches, i rolled my eyes.
I will say about the pen - because i feel the same way about the squeakiness (although i can't comment on the light bleed - neither had it) that my white pen feels lighter than the grey version. I wonder if the grey version is a different type of plastic or polycarbonate (whatever it is made of) than the white. I wish there was a way to figure out the date manufactured from the serial number similar to Asus.
Now, I know that Samsung has used different components in their phones before. I have a SGSIII on Sprint. It has a different camera module than a colleague's who also has the SGSIII on sprint. The difference on mine seems to be a clearer picture and much better quality in darker areas (especially at night) and not as much noise. I'm curious if Samsung did use diffferent factories, or components on these versions. I personally don't think it was a different line or different factory, but i could be wrong. It just seems such a drastic change but it's entirely possible (similar to Asus supposedly changing innards in their Prime over a 4 month period).
I think a lot of manufacturer's do it (HTC Evo 4G comes to mind with their screens) and it's so early in this production i hope it's not true, but in my experience i wasn't going to deal with 6 "scratches" on a tablet that cost $499 that still had the plastic protector on the back. The sad part of the story is i didn't even KNOW about the scratches until i went to exchange it because it had stayed in the case for so long.
I can't comment about the white version. I did buy the grey one a couple days ago and made the sales person open the box so that I could give it the squeak test... rock solid. Snapped er up!!!
Having own both colors, I can say with confidence that the white one is built better. The slot to hold the pen is more tight and less squeek.
My white one creaks when pressing just around the Samsung logo on the back. Only slight creak. I Can live with that.
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There are only three components that differ based on the color - 1) the display because of the colored surround, 2) the molded plastic back cover, and 3) the metal-esque bezel. I'd rule out any difference caused by the display because it hasn't come in to play in any previous discussions. From a physical perspective that leaves the bezel and plastic back cover.
There's no artistry or complexity involved in molding plastic so I'd guess all the bezels and back covers are made in one place and shipped to the different factories that assemble the Note. Neither the bezel nor the back cover have any complex lines or angles (probably intentional) so I doubt there's any challenges in producing an accurate die that the plastic is formed in.
So one of two things is causing some Notes to be less solid than others: 1) assembly issues where they aren't put together properly, 2) a part like the frame, bezel, or back cover wasn't produced within tolerances and fit isn't correct. I'd guess probably 90% is assembly and 10% irregular components. Regardless, I can't see white being any more or less immune to defects than grey. They may produce a week's run of gray followed by a week's run of white. If something happens on the assembly line during a single week’s run all of a single color could be affected. But it would be random as to which one. There certainly could be aesthetic differences caused by color. Look what happened to the blue SGS3’s when they launched.
My grey one only creeks on the lower right corner (where the s pen is located) is this on the white version?
My white one is as solid as a rock.
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I have the grey. Not noticing any squeaking, feels great. I didn't buy the white because the IPad was white. I didn't want anyone asking how I liked my Apple.
I have a white 16g WiFi+3g (gt-n8000). The back creaks on the left side. Can't decide whether it's due to build quality or it falling off my bed one night. Regardless, I don't mind it too much.
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This is the silliest thing i've ever heard. :laugh:
No seriously, don't you think they make them with all the same components, at the same factory, at the same time....etc, etc.
The only difference with these is.............Color! Yes thats it!
Or maybe they have separate factories in different countries. That would be cost effective. Maybe even the job requirements are different. The white factory requires college degrees.
BTW, I have both a white one and a black one presently, so it's not sour grapes
Had two grays one creaked one didn't.
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I picked the white up first which was perfect fast and the screen was wow .. I decided to swap it to the grey it was sluggish the pen wasnt repsonsive and I have very bad screen bleed
Its going back and im getting the white again
Dissapointed
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Same here , No light bleeding as well which makes me soo happy considering my iPad 2 (replaced once, still had it) and Asus transformer Prime both had it. The Galaxy Note 10.1 is by far my favorite as well.
Traded my grey in today for a white one (Not intentionally i went for a 32g model but no dice) but i can honestley say this feels so much more sturdy, I read all types of reviews so when i first bought my note i checked for that creaking on the sides, sure enough it was there, this one (white) however does not creak. So you have a valid point.
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Well just got my a500
tested it straight out of the box and sure enough I have one tiny dust spec under the screen.
Otherwise no other issues.
I can also say looking at this screen against my transofrmer (that has mucho light bleed and also a dust spec and is creaky) that the screen is definitely not as nice. It is cooler in color though ironically with better blacks. Also the viewing angles while acceptable are not as nice.
Well Now I have a dilemma. I got a 32gb Acer for 30$ more than a 16gb Transformer.
Transgormer has nicer screen but suffers light bleed a dust spec and is a bit creaky.
IT is a bit lighter with over all nicer screen. IT also has the keyboard dock potential for future.
Second option is I keep the iconia which has more storage usb prot feels better in the hand and better built, but also has dust spec under screen.
I am not sure what to do. Afraid to exchange the iconia as given the track record on all these tablets, I run the risk of getting some light bleed or dead pixels etc.
SO do I just suck it up ignore the little pixel sized dust spec and live on?
Do I gamble and exchange? DO I return both wait till availability on transformer is better and perhaps with time they work through the build quality issues?
Or just use nothing, wait a month and get the galaxy tabb.
One thing for certain is galaxy tab will have nice or nicest screen will be thinnest and lightest and by being samsung will likely have more accessories like cases etc for it.
IT will likely cot a bit more (not too big an issue) and might not have much expandibility which may or may not be much of an issue as there will likey be accessory to dock to allow usb host etc.
Did you not buy them locally? If it's a local store, open it in the store and make sure it's up to par. If not, I'm not sure what I'd do either.
I have couple of the dust particles too. I'm exchanging mine today.
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SO do I just suck it up ignore the little pixel sized dust spec and live on?
Do you notice the dust when you're not looking for it?
I've used my Iconia for a couple of weeks now, but it wasn't until this post that I thoroughly inspected the screen and found six(!) tiny dust particles under the screen. They're all 2-3 mm from the edge of the screen, so they're really not an issue. Imho light bleed is much more annoying.
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Did you not buy them locally? If it's a local store, open it in the store and make sure it's up to par. If not, I'm not sure what I'd do either.
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SO do I just suck it up ignore the little pixel sized dust spec and live on?
Do you notice the dust when you're not looking for it?
I've used my Iconia for a couple of weeks now, but it wasn't until this post that I thoroughly inspected the screen and found six(!) tiny dust particles under the screen. They're all 2-3 mm from the edge of the screen, so they're really not an issue. Imho light bleed is much more annoying.
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If it was near an edge would beless of an issue. Orbison however mid screen on right third so see it easily when background is white.
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ahhh crap, i noticed i got 1 dust spec after reading this post.
Which one looks less 'cheap'? From the pics it looks like the white version looks prettier, but what about in person?
Currently I'm leaning for the white version, which one have bought or will buy?
Two reasons why i dont buy white electronics...
1. As you said white is prettier and in the eyes of many...because its "pretty" it can also be considered girly or feminine. So unless u are a girl...
2. White electronics can turn a slight yellow and shows dirt and grime over time .
If u dont care about either, then by all means...
Grey cause there is a 32gb version and white is more girly and can be mistaken for iPad, 2 negatives there
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I have the white version. It looks the best by far. The grey version looks to plain for me. The white has a more professional look to it. I think the grey version looks cheaper.
I got white. I'm male...
But I do think it looks cool in white
This tablet can't be mistaken for an ipad because it's too cool.
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I got white. I'm male...
But I do think it looks cool in white
This tablet can't be mistaken for an ipad because it's too cool.
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It does. I love the white with silver trim. This looks better than Ipad, IMO
The primary problem with white is that Samsung uses soft plastic which soaks up dirt fast. My white Galaxy S II is filthy and wont clean up. It's like the dirt is IN the plastic.
Anyway I'm gonna put this in a black case anyway so the point is moot.
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Lotsa love for the white -- I took one look at a store demo of the white unit and hated it. The silver trim just really didn't sit well with me. Between that and having seen the dirty white plastic effect on other stuff, I went with the grey -- and I'm a girl (if that really means anything).
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Which one looks less 'cheap'? From the pics it looks like the white version looks prettier, but what about in person?
Currently I'm leaning for the white version, which one have bought or will buy?
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Add a poll - you'll get comments and feedback where some won't post.
ETA - I got gray. Classy and hides dirt.
I like contrast: I like the white border better when the screen is displaying something dark and the gray border better when the screen is displaying something primarily light in color. At first that made it seem impossible to pick. Luckily, I wanted a 32GB version and, right now, it only comes in gray.
I have the graphite (its not gray) and it doesnt look "cheap" at all. It looks like a nice tablet. I have never unserstood this whole "cheap look and feel"business some reviewers are citing. I prefer a softer feeling case than the heavy rock hard iPad. Im looking for a tablet i hold in my hands, not a cheese slicer.
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Once and for all: casing is NOT plastic, it's polycarbonate ! This mat is used in air- and spacecraft building, is extremely light, durable and FLEXIBLE. and gives (at least me) a better haptic feeling ( I hated the brick-like feeling of my wife's iPad and now she loves the feeling of her N10.1 more too)
Depending on the type of coulouring some types could get yellowish under strong UV-radiation but who leaves a Note10.1 for days and weeks in flashing sunlight ?
The entire front is sealed by gorilla-glass so no way to get dirty or scratched (which makes cleaning insuff)
My SGSIII is in white ( I had no choice since 32GB had priority) and I had no choice with my Note10.1 here in Austria which is available only in white and unfortunately only 16 GB.
But they fit together nicely, my SGSIII and Note10.1 and do not look girlish at all. BTW : the only colour I could consider as somehow " girlish " would be pink ............:laugh:
The funny thing is that most people will put their SGN in a case anyway so the color doesnt really matter anyway. I have my white SGS2 in a black case lined with black felt and the white back stained a grayish color - probably from the heat touching the felt.
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Received my grey GN10.1 today, Love it so far and nice surprise to find a usb adapter in the box.
It looks great, prefer it over the white.
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I read a review from a major online publication which said the Galaxy Note 10.1 felt very cheap as if it would break in half in your hands.
Seriously, what was he smoking? My SGN101 doesn't flex or creak or feel even remotely cheap. It is light but you would have to be the damned incredible hulk to break it in half with your bare hands. I guess he prefers the iPad3 which can double as a cheese slicer in a pinch?
Sometimes you gotta wonder.
P.S., His overall thoughts on the Note were thumbs down mainly because you could get a higher res screen at the same price point. The fact that the S-Pen completely transforms this from a toy to a daily use tool was completely lost on him apparently.
The review was basically: "It feels cheap, flimsy and the screen sucks. Oh yeah, it has this pen thingy but I doubt anyone will use that..."
You can always tell an iPad fanboy from a mile away.
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I read a review from a major online publication which said the Galaxy Note 10.1 felt very cheap as if it would break in half in your hands.
Seriously, what was he smoking? My SGN101 doesn't flex or creak or feel even remotely cheap. It is light but you would have to be the damned incredible hulk to break it in half with your bare hands. I guess he prefers the iPad3 which can double as a cheese slicer in a pinch?
Sometimes you gotta wonder.
P.S., His overall thoughts on the Note were thumbs down mainly because you could get a higher res screen at the same price point. The fact that the S-Pen completely transforms this from a toy to a daily use tool was completely lost on him apparently.
The review was basically: "It feels cheap, flimsy and the screen sucks. Oh yeah, it has this pen thingy but I doubt anyone will use that..."
You can always tell an iPad fanboy from a mile away.
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This seems to be the overall case with reviewers on the Note 10.1 -- the usefulness of the s-pen is lost, because apparently, the iPad has made it such that tablets are not tools, they are consumption-only devices and all must be judged on that criteria alone (hence, why the screen res is far more important to these people than how well the s-pen works).
My ONLY complaint about the build of the Note would be in how slippery the plastic/casing is! =P Without a case on it yet, I worry that I'm going to have butterfingers one day and drop the damn thing. I need to get a case, pronto.
My Note doesn't feel cheap at all, either -- nor does it flex any or creak when you try to flex it. The overall build quality is perfectly fine. Somehow I think reviewers were looking for a reason to trash the Note, or they are just looking at it all wrong. I can't decide which. All I know is... apparently, they don't know what they're missing. And to that, I say, too bad for them! I'll get over my not-so-nice relationship with touchwiz (and really, with ICS and the ability to disable system bloat -- you can hamstring touchwiz anyways!).
I ordered the white version. Goes along with my white iPad 3.
I live in Hawaii and avoid dark colors when possible because of the sun.
Aloha.. Al
First I got the white one, did like it-matched my white SGS3(didn't like the blue one), but had to exchange it due a faulty speaker and got the gray one instead and like it better. Looks classy. But should I start to hate color, I can always buy a book cover for it if they become available sometime soon(december 2013 maybe)
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White is definitely the way to go.
i got the grey, but i think the white would look better. that tacky plastic chrome stands out to much on the grey. but some may like that look. i think i'll take some paint to it later.
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Hey guys,
Not trolling here, as I'm betting this topic has been beaten to death 6 pages down the forum, but it still puzzles me greatly.
Black or white?
To my eye, black is more sleek and serious, white (silver) is more fancy. How are your experiences in terms of build quality of both? Is it true that black smudges with fingerprints easily, and how view-able are they? Scratch/chip wise, how do both phones behave?
Any honest opinion, I would kill for. Thanks for your time lads.
Think of it like a car. White cars you have a tough time see scratches, but you can tell when it's dirty quicker. Black is the opposite.
i started off determined i wanted black, as I've been using a white SGS3 and I hate the white look in general, but I went to the store to see what it was like in person and it was nothing like I imagined. The black is very matte and not a deep black like i expected. The white (actually silver) on the other hand looks much better in person IMHO.
All in all, you really need to see the product yourself to decide. My Best Buy had both on display for me to check out. As someone who enjoyed the iphone 5 in black, the htc one's black model does not resemble it much at all and ends up looking a little bit cheaper to me. I'm going to end up getting the silver model.
silver color is good...
the metal underneath both finishes is silver. if you nick the black finish you will see silver. if you nick the silver finish, you will see more silver. which situation is more noticeable?
personally i believe a) if you could somehow keep your phone from getting dinged, black looks cool (even if it is more of a charcoal gray and not exactly black) and b) putting a great-looking and -feeling phone in a case is a waste of good design unless you expect to drop your phone at some point and/or care about resale value. (and besides if you have a case on your phone, the case obscures much of the phone's original finish anyway.)
because i am a) pretty sure my phone will experience a little wear and tear and yet b) i would prefer to use it without a case, i am guessing silver will make me happier in the long run even if black seems slightly more appealing now. and i mean *slightly* : honestly , both look good.
oh and it's not clear if the developer edition will ever come in black. HTC is saying no for now. not sure what to expect later on though.
black one gonna give lots of residual + finger prints in future usage. U will notice it really much, but if you going to get the case doesn't matter, silver looks more stylish and appealing high end device in your hand.
I have the black One and I am very happy about it. Had it 10 days now and only one tiny noticeable scratch at the top edge. Very very small one and easily covered by a black marker.
I have to day, I don't regret getting the black at all, it's so cool and stylish IMHO. It does attract more fingerprints but wipe it wit.your cloth easily clean it, I was a bit worried but not anymore since I.actually got the phone.
Of course, I don't abuse my phone, but don't avoid using it, it's always naked in my.pocket alone.
Oh, the back is quite durable I dropped it from knee high and.it landed on the back on wood floor, not a single mark.
Silver, ive had black phones all my life, its time for a change
i have a black car too..
I went for Silver too, never been a big fan of black phones. Or white ones, for that matter! really like the brown Galaxy S3 my girlfriend uses, and my old Desire HD had a bit do a brownish tint to it. Only had my silver One for a couple of hours so far, but it's stunning - very happy with it and it frames the display nicely. one day when we have true edge-to-edge displays then black would look amazing, but until then I think I'd prefer a silver, grey or brown.
flip a coin, heads white, tails black... but honestly if you flip the coin you will realize what color you want while the coin is spinning in mid air.
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flip a coin, heads white, tails black... but honestly if you flip the coin you will realize what color you want while the coin is spinning in mid air.
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Or confuse yourself even more that's what happened to me when I was deciding... I took the black simply because another colleague in my company got a silver and I wanted to be different! It turns out to be a good choice.
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once you go black you can't go back.
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once you go black you can't go back.
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I actually had chance to go back, switch to a silver One while I was still in the first 7 days after received the phone feared it may chip. But I stayed because my normal usage will not worsen the casing,
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I would like to hear comments from people who saw both phones in person.
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once you go black you can't go back.
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Michael Jackson said it don't matter if you're black or white.
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I hate it when a glossy phone gets all smudged up with fingerprints and either you:
A) Constantly have to clean it
or
B) Have it look like #%&!
It seems like the white version of the S4 won't show fingerprints the way the black one does. Has this swayed anyone's decision out there who wanted to go black but ended up going white?
Of course... Samsung could have avoided their black version looking like #%&! by simply putting a texture on the outside of the back plate like they did with the Galaxy S2... but I guess that would be too simple
The S4 has a faux texture, but I see what you mean. I picked the white since it was all they had at the store. We got another white and a black on preorder and I'll make my decision then.
FWIW I much preferred the black GS2 over the white.
I'm going with white because it repeals heat (or won't be as hot). If you get black, well, prepare for a game of hot potato.
I've got black, the fingerprints are very hard to see because of the texture.
That really only matters if you are putting the back of the phone in direct sunlight.
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I got white one
i preordered the black and i must say fingerprints was the last thing i considered when i picked the colour
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I'm going with white because it repeals heat (or won't be as hot). If you get black, well, prepare for a game of hot potato.
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please explain why the colour white/black variant influences the hottness of the phone in the case of high loads. By me its nonsence as the single colour just cant do that, so the matter could be different firmware/material/faulty device THX
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please explain why the colour white/black variant influences the hottness of the phone in the case of high loads. By me its nonsence as the single colour just cant do that, so the matter could be different firmware/material/faulty device THX
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The only thing this would have ground on is in direct sunlight lol
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yes but he didnt say that is on the direct sunlight. He said it like generaly. Thats why I expect some more info about his claims
Absolutely hate shiny phones and I went with the white S3 because of fingerprints.
This time I thought a bit more. I always have it in a case, so I got the black.
No I didnt I went for the black, I put a full body screen protector on it, google it up if you dont know what it is. Ta-da no more finger prints. Now I just have to sell my s3
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please explain why the colour white/black variant influences the hottness of the phone in the case of high loads. By me its nonsence as the single colour just cant do that, so the matter could be different firmware/material/faulty device THX
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Dark colors traps heat. I have the S3 in pebble blue. When I play hd games, or use for extended period, the phone becomes hot. Add to the fact that I have a black case on it. My sis-in-law has a white s3. She's a power user, but every time I touch her phone, I don't feel much heat. She has a light colored case on hers.
To make it plainer, go outside dressed all in black & stand in the sun for a few hours. Then tell me how you feel
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Dark colors traps heat. I have the S3 in pebble blue. When I play hd games, or use for extended period, the phone becomes hot. Add to the fact that I have a black case on it. My sis-in-law has a white s3. She's a power user, but every time I touch her phone, I don't feel much heat. She has a light colored case on hers.
To make it plainer, go outside dressed all in black & stand in the sun for a few hours. Then tell me how you feel
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Black pigments absorb all visible colors of light. That is why they appear black to you. They take up that light as heat (not gonna explain the long way, so don't freak out, physics majors) so you feel warmer. White stuff reflects all visible colors, which is why you see the white sunlight reflected onto your eyes. They don't take up the energy from that reflected light, so they don't get as hot.
Your comparison only makes sense if the backs of the phones are constantly in direct sunlight, in which case the heat generated by the phone itself is trivial. The only way there could be a difference between the two models is if they use different materials for each one, and I highly doubt that is the case. In your situation, I would be willing to bet that the cases you have on the phones are made from different materials, in which case one is a better conductor than the other.
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Black pigments absorb all visible colors of light. That is why they appear black to you. They take up that light as heat (not gonna explain the long way, so don't freak out, physics majors) so you feel warmer. White stuff reflects all visible colors, which is why you see the white sunlight reflected onto your eyes. They don't take up the energy from that reflected light, so they don't get as hot.
Your comparison only makes sense if the backs of the phones are constantly in direct sunlight, in which case the heat generated by the phone itself is trivial. The only way there could be a difference between the two models is if they use different materials for each one, and I highly doubt that is the case. In your situation, I would be willing to bet that the cases you have on the phones are made from different materials, in which case one is a better conductor than the other.
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I'll have to keep that in mind when choosing phone colors & cases.
BTW, your name (the first word), is my middle name, minus 1 extra letter.
yes Jihad I ment it in this way Iam an engineer so I know all this things thats why I disagree Saturny's explain and doesnt make sence to me. So finaly the difference in the heat thing will be only on direct sunlight as black SGS3/4 couldnt cool up and dissipate the heat from stressed components...so white or black doesnt care...in my country will by black after a week maybe more than a week so I'll take white today...
I'm on moto x number three and I've noticed a disturbing trend. The workers that assemble your phone are not very careful. Every device I've purchased has come with superficial scratching on either the bezel, custom color back, or both. This last device has the usual small marks but also a rather deep nick in the bezel right between the silver keys on the side.
Moto has agreed to exchange whenever I want but really, I don't want another 3 or more week wait. I wonder what the magic number is until a manufacturer does QC on the stuff they make. $545 apparently is not enough.
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I'm pretty sure I read the black and white ones sold in store are made over seas, my white one came from the Sprint store flawless, only reason because I would have chosen white front white back anyways
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charlie-n said:
I'm pretty sure I read the black and white ones sold in store are made over seas, my white one came from the Sprint store flawless, only reason because I would have chosen white front white back anyways
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This is a custom motomaker version. No real reason that it should be this way with "Murican" workers!
charlie-n said:
I'm pretty sure I read the black and white ones sold in store are made over seas, my white one came from the Sprint store flawless, only reason because I would have chosen white front white back anyways
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My black Verizon day one model was assembled in the USA
-Moto X-
Dude I totally agree. My first moto maker moto x had two little scratches. I got my second one today for replacement and there's still a small scratch, but I'm keeping it. Don't know whether it's the workers or the stock themselves
I just noticed what appears to be a very a small scratch on the back of my phone by the camera opposite the loudspeaker and I'm 99% sure I didn't put it there.
Not to discredit the OP or other post. But I ordered a royal blue with white front and I'm very anal about scratches and thoroughly inspected my phone and it was perfect. No separation or scratches. So QC is not that bad.
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mawells787 said:
Not to discredit the OP or other post. But I ordered a royal blue with white front and I'm very anal about scratches and thoroughly inspected my phone and it was perfect. No separation or scratches. So QC is not that bad.
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Same here, I have two moto x devices, both moto makers and both pristine. But with any mass produced consumer item, there will be issues, I've seen stuff like this with Samsung and Apple... I think, to a degree, superficial defects are more noticeable with moto x users because there is such an emphasis on the aesthetics of the device. I know I've spent more time staring at this phone (not the screen) probably more than all my other phones combined... Just rolling the phone around in my hands admiring the color, build and uniqueness... This in itself, fundamentally, increases the odds of finding those defects.
But the two I have are the best build quality in a phone I've seen with android and the fact that it was built to order is that much more satisfying.
Op, try not to sweat the small stuff, bit if it bothers you that much then maybe it's time to try a different device? Hopefully you can find something that you find acceptable.
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Mine is fine
3 custom Motomaker devices and 1 stock white device here at work, all perfect.
I'm glad some of you got some nice ones. I love white faced phones but mostly got the white because the black at best buy showed really badly with scratches... Similar bezel design to my nexus s. I have very good vision and I'm ocd. The bezels on all three had some light scratches. The first I returned to recoup $150. It was the least defective of all of the. I feel uber foolish returning it because it was awesome. Gorgeous perfect hued screen, no tint and very tight fit. Second was my $150 off version. Came with less light scratching but had a weird little marr in the olive back finish. Also had 2 small scratches on the sides of the green back. The screen looked great and I would have kept it but it froze downloading 4.4 and refused to fully boot thereafter. Not even rsd lite could bring it back. I sent it back and received my 3rd device yesterday. Phone looked perfect till I looked near the silver keys... Big nick with a spec of dirt in the deepest part of the scratch. I was thinking of just keeping it but if also has a super green tint to it. White is very green. Both of the others looked awesome. Neutral, white whites and no color probs or banding.
I'm kind of hitting Murphys law here or some kind of punishment for saving $150!:
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mawells787 said:
Not to discredit the OP or other post. But I ordered a royal blue with white front and I'm very anal about scratches and thoroughly inspected my phone and it was perfect. No separation or scratches. So QC is not that bad.
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I bought the same color scheme and mine was perfect. hell i didn't even want to touch it at first.
I did drop it on a concrete floor right on to a chip of masonry which put a small nick in the blue back. It was a pretty bad fall, I was suprised it still worked. That fall probably would have cracked my old samsung in half.
Normally I'm prone to bad luck like the above mentioned but my custom (cement back / white front / blue buttons) Verizon Moto X showed up at my door in flawless condition.
I too am VERY anal about this sort of thing...
I'm not anal. Mine was fine. Could care less about anything other then the screen or camera glass, case always covers it. I can imagine there's no scratches on your car too right?
I must be somewhat lucky then, because I am ridiculously picky about this sort of thing. I expect a %100 perfect device inside the box when I unbox it. Any scratch, blemish, or manufacturing defect of any kind is completely unacceptable. If I see dust on the screen cover they ship with I'm frustrated, but it's tolerable. I have had two developer editions and a motomaker for Tmo and they have all been acceptable. By acceptable I mean no scratches of any kind anywhere on the device, no misaligned components, and no button issues. If there is any lint or dust that shows up under the camera lens cover, that warrants a replacement.
I expect anyone else to hold Moto to the same standards too, I'd be very upset if the phone showed up with any of these problems.
we have 2 Moto Maker Moto X's and both came flawless..
one, white front, woven black back silver accents and one white front, royal blue back with purple accents. No issue with either.
thats too bad about the OP having issues, maybe those have been end of the day friday builds???
I also wonder, if you send yours back do they just change out the parts on it or give you another entire new phone..
I'll buy someone's scratched Moto x... Give you 100 bucks and I'll put my otter box on it... And sell my perfect white one for 400.
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moz90 said:
Mine is perfect and mines from moto maker
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Same here for me.
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Mine was good...no scratches, but the outer shell was not completely snapped in place in one spot. Pushing together the front and back with my fingers fixed it.