Software houses are developing great games for iPhone 4 (look at RAGE) and WP7...
why google isn't doing anything to attract software houses???
I don't want to trade my nexus for a iPhone 4 or a WP7 but I think i will, because it seems it will never have such cool games (also due to its crappy multitouch)...
I like playing some games while on travel or before sleep..
I thought this "superphone" would have last me 2 years, but it's already old
Anyone having news/rumors on android gaming side? especially N1's side...
3.0 will help, and the next iteration of snapdragons will SERIOUSLY boost the ability of android to compete [unfortunately the 1GHz snapdragons are paired with a rather old gpu]. The 1.5 dual core scheduled for early adoption at christmas will bring 3x the CPU horsepower and 3x the GPU horsepower, SIGNIFICANTLY above the iphone.
ok, but i think that android should standardize hardware to attract software houses, it's like creating games for PC vs games for consoles, the can squeeze the power out of consoles because of their standard hardware, instead they need much more power to run same games on pc due to they different hardwares
EDIT: will it bring 3x ***** also??
There will be no standardized hardware. Just like in PCs. And just like in PCs, there will be games.
normally standardization does not work with open source/open licensing
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yeah, i saw this rumor around but i dont remember him mentioning android at all in his demo. Also, he forgot to mention that your battery will implode in 10seconds. lol
Here is a game that came out recently Galcon
How about my phone plays psx, gameboy, snes.... Games?
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Yep but most of those games aren't playable because of keys combos that can't be done on our crappy multitouch...
However i was thinking about next gen games
Those rumors are interesting, if true
iOS have more and better games because it's easier to make games for two or three hardware setups, and also because the market is larger (I may be wrong here). The latest sales numbers show that Android kicks total ass at least in the US and is now the number one smart phone platform. That will most probably get more developers interested and we will se some more good games for Android too. It may take a while though, and we may have to wait for newer hardware revisions and Android 3 + as mentioned earlier up here.
Unfortunately all the latest Android devices were released without true multitouch and/or relatively weak GPU's (like graphics card).. Evo, Desire, Incredible, Nexus One etc. are all considered top end devices however none of them have a powerful GPU and some such as Nexus & Desire don't have proper multi touch. I think the release of all these phones definetly shot Android forward in the market and is still doing so now however we're still waiting on the next Android wave to come through bring full multitouch and fast GPU's and then I believe gaming will really take off.
On a side note Galaxy S series phones all have full multitouch & the fastest GPU in anyphone at the moment, more than 3x faster than the one in the iPhone.
Well I play more games on my nexus then I did on my iphone so w.e gran turismo, driver, mario, and a handful of game boy games.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
Cool Story, bro.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
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saw that a week ago...
on one side it's cool so that many games will be developed on 1ghz snapdragon platform and hopefully our nexus will see that games...but on the other side it's an old platform, honestly i think they should focus on the next generation processors to destroy iphone and bring an uber cool device
There are some really good android games. to name a few. Nova, Hawx, Asphalt5, Needforspeed shift, Hero of sparta, Modern combat, homerun battle, crusade of destiny, Super KO, Speed forge, Raging thunder, Heavy Gunner, Wave blazer, toon warz etc.
I have a n1 and a Vibrant, and let me tell you the vibrant blows the n1 out the water in real world gaming (not just benchmark crap). Games are way smoother on the Vibrant. The n1s Poor fake MT was the reason I got a vibrant, I wanna play some cool games and on the n1 with the crossing axis problem that was next to impossible...
The vibrants MT is flawless. Absolutely great, that mixed with a great GPU I say bring on the good games... Were ready.
I am a recentish owner of the Desire HD. I'm loving it. I flashed a custom rom on it and I love it more. I am well aware of the horsepower in this baby and that iphone 4 is nothing compared to it... My question is this: Why do major game developers avoid android, and go for the iphone throwing out all sorts of super games that would work even better on the DHD (and please avoid the financial part, i'm well aware apple brainwashed many into buying iphone 4).
I had to post this topic because I feel a bit frustrated seeing gameloft develop nova 2, dungeon hunter 2, etc. for iphone and android gets Shrek Kart 3d... REALLY? Ea games barely developed 2-3 games and popcap is in the same boat but with 0 games. (with a near-future release of games).
There are quite a few HD Gameloft games that work just fine. Just not the newest ones that you mentioned (DH2, Nova2 etc) because they just came out for iphone and are probably not ported yet. I'm pretty sure though that they will come out eventually.
Check out their homepage, you can buy all the games directly there. All the good ones are available for android but not all of them are in the market. At least where i live (europe).
Keep in mind that the DHD is half a year old and one of the first really powerful (gaming wise) android devices. So i think in the future lots of good games will come out once the hardware is reasonably spread.
[e] I just read a news that gameloft is working toghether with Qualcomm now (who made the chips for the DHD).
Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho
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Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho
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The reason is simple:
1. As powerful as the DHD is, the current generation of adreno, lacks in comparison to powervr in the iphone 4, it can shift nearly twice the polygons adreno can.
2. IOS only uses one CPU chipset, there. Are now 2 diffent types used in android (arm & omap) each of these chipsets use diffrent types of textures in 3D games, meaning for android, devs have to write the game twice.....
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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.
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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.
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Now the Tegra II chipset is out, your going to see a massive jump in android gaming, plus android is the only mobile platform with a fully functional N64 emulator, and theres rumors the makers of NullDC are working on a dreamcast emulator for android
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Gaming has improved and quite a lot. Have you tried Gunbros, Fruit Ninja, Dungeon Defender, Mega Jump, Rocket Bunnies, Angry birds, Reckless racing.
And the futur is looking brighter with the Unity engin (IOS most famous game engine) being ported to android.
Well, indeed the processor architectures differ in android. But major game developers hsouldnt have an issue with building two games, they have enough people. ALso are the games so easily built on the iphone? because android is always the last platform that something gets released on...
Hello there. I finally got me this wonderful tablet...I wanted something small, well built, and possibly with tegra 3, mainly for the gaming exclusives that Tegra means.
I didn't buy the tablet for gaming of course, but it is something I like in general. The first thing I tried has been Epic Citadel. The benchmark gave me solid 55fps average in high quality.
Then I tried a game that didn't really run well on my Galaxy Note 1: NOVA3 from gameloft.
I know Gameloft games are not really well programmed, at least not as solid as EA products (dead space, ME infiltrator and NFS most wanted to say a few)....I played most of them on my old Desire HD, and then on the galaxy note. Some of them would not run well on the Note. I am someone that feels a big difference between 30fps and 60fps...that's why I play on PC. I don't need 60 fps on a mobile game of course, the main point of my thread is:
how can a game like NOVA 3 stutter that way on the nexus 7? From a quad core tegra 3 processor I was expecting something much different....it runs the same way it runs on the galaxy note, PLUS it has no depth of field. I watched the introduction, on the galaxy note the soldier was totally sharp, and the background was out of focus. On the nexus 7 somehow this feature is disabled (of course no way to change it in the options).
Anyway, this is not what I was expecting from such a powerful device. I know game could have been programmed better (not even sure if it uses all the 4 cores).....but what is your opinion?
I don't need to play NOVA3 this bad...it is just a curiosity, something that I would rather have explained to me. I am also quite sure the same game would run flawless on an iphone....never seen it though, i just suppose.
I am also aware of that kind of 'lag fix', which is anyway not recommended. I am on stock rom with root permission.
YOU CAN'T
GAMELOFT CAN
optimization is bad,veeeery bad ;(
You can't fix it,every game from gameloft on Tegra 3 have 15fps ;(
just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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As good as any other device I suppose :3 everything on android can be played well on a galaxy nexus let alone the note.
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There are some games that are not compatible with the Exynos processor. So those games that require Tegra tech, are not playable on the Note, unless you install a patch, but I heard few reports of that patch bricking some tablets.
However, beside those, the Note 10.1 has all power you can pretty much get with $500 with android installed on it. So having the best of the best should mean that you should be able to run the compatible games like butter. It does get a lil warm after extended gaming tho. The tablet has some extremely good battery life, however, I notice that when playing the battery goes to hell pretty quick (like 3 or 4 hrs); graphics on big screen has some toll on the battery I guess.
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There are some games that are not compatible with the Exynos processor. So those games that require Tegra tech, are not playable on the Note, unless you install a patch, but I heard few reports of that patch bricking some tablets.
However, beside those, the Note 10.1 has all power you can pretty much get with $500 with android installed on it. So having the best of the best should mean that you should be able to run the compatible games like butter. It does get a lil warm after extended gaming tho. The tablet has some extremely good battery life, however, I notice that when playing the battery goes to hell pretty quick (like 3 or 4 hrs); graphics on big screen has some toll on the battery I guess.
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hmmm , and are these tegra requiring games too many ?!
i mean, how much is the percentage of tegra only games ?
i beleive th note has mali 400 graphics like the note 2 compared to GPUs like the tegra 3 on nexus 7. So far i havent done much gaming on it other than 3d scores on quadrant(yeah yeah i know
you can check tegra zone for the game list but half of those are not even THD anymore ^_^v
I haven't come across act games that don't work with exynos ( I own ALOT of games) only ones would be tegra exclusives which there isn't many of those. Tbh if you want the best gaming machine get a tegra or the nexus 10, the n10 has more horsepower and now that throttling issues have mostly been resolved it has a higher resolution screen good for games.
Also I don't think you need an adapter for HDMI out, I think it uses micro HDMI
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just as the question states ,is it good for hardcore gaming ?
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What is hardcore gaming to you?
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What is hardcore gaming to you?
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especially on a tablet...
Suppose your definition of "hardcore gaming" is warranted as mobile isn't known for it lol
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I haven't come across act games that don't work with exynos ( I own ALOT of games) only ones would be tegra exclusives which there isn't many of those. Tbh if you want the best gaming machine get a tegra or the nexus 10, the n10 has more horsepower and now that throttling issues have mostly been resolved it has a higher resolution screen good for games.
Also I don't think you need an adapter for HDMI out, I think it uses micro HDMI
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nexus 10 isn't available in my country :'(
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hmm yea the word actually was chosen wrong xD
i just mean playing any new more demanding games , i don't really know a lot of names now cuz i still didn't buy the thing but let's say modern combat 4 , need for speed most wanted and things like that
i'm just trying to compare the gaming on it to ipad 4 , yes i know that ipad games look a lot better , but i just need them to look good cuz everybody is telling me that customization in android is a lot cooler than the ios stability
I offer you to buy nexus 7 or ipad3 or 4(128gb is awesome) ,why? As all friends said most android devices are the same but with different progressor & each of them can't run other progressor games,
Why ipad?
-ipad isn't like this & can run all high-end games with maximum effects & graphics (for example runs dead trigger with water effect which only tegra devices can show this feature)
-Games release before android (like Real Racing 3 ,it's released a month ago for ios but its not still available at Google market)
-700,000 games & apps(android have 700,000 apps but it include Widgets, launchers, live wallpapers,lockers, themes, etc,...)
-all ios apps & games are tested by apple before uploading appStore, so no broken apps & viruses
-awesome battery life, 11,000mAh battery (more than 10 hour gaming with just one charging)
-perfect support (ex. IPhone 3gs gets ios6 update)
Choose the best & don't waste you money for note,buy 1 time buy the good 1
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I offer you to buy nexus 7 or ipad3 or 4(128gb is awesome) ,why? As all friends said most android devices are the same but with different progressor & each of them can't run other progressor games,
Why ipad?
-ipad isn't like this & can run all high-end games with maximum effects & graphics (for example runs dead trigger with water effect which only tegra devices can show this feature)
-Games release before android (like Real Racing 3 ,it's released a month ago for ios but its not still available at Google market)
-700,000 games & apps(android have 700,000 apps but it include Widgets, launchers, live wallpapers,lockers, themes, etc,...)
-all ios apps & games are tested by apple before uploading appStore, so no broken apps & viruses
-awesome battery life, 11,000mAh battery (more than 10 hour gaming with just one charging)
-perfect support (ex. IPhone 3gs gets ios6 update)
Choose the best & don't waste you money for note,buy 1 time buy the good 1
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He may want more than what the iPad can offer though. Also not every version of the iPhone will get the full update so support isn't perfect. As for virus or malware, Apple devices aren't impervious and the rate of infection on android Is grossly over exaggerated. Also not all I devices run Max effects, in fact most can't except the ipad2 and iphone4s.
The only processor that can't run the others as u say is tegra vs everyone else and it's not lack of ability that's the problem it's nvidia paying for exclusive content. Games released first is valid but every other point was uninformed FUD which I kindly ask you don't spread around these forums. Think about the fact that you're posting in a forum where there are people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about.
Edit: Just one of many articles to prove my point on malware threat on both platforms
http://m.cnet.com/news/should-malware-risks-factor-into-the-iphone-vs-android-debate/57557684?ds=1
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yea ECOTOX is right !
i kinda don't want to be stuck with the standard ipad looks , i want something i can play around with
its not all about games , i don't want to run EVERY GAME out there , i just want a lot of games so that when i want to play , i won't be in shortage of games , but i have many other things to do with the tab
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Why I asked this is that I think any real "hardcore gamer" would not purchase a tablet of any brand to play games.
Hardcore gamer's have computers that they put many thousands of dollars into, they uses 2 or more monitors, 3 or more video cards, massive water cooler systems that are overclocked, they run gigabit modems, laser mice and special keyboards...... So.... my answer should have be NO.
^^ i know what a hardcore gamer is , and fyi , what u just talked about is a hardcore gamer with a ****load of money , there are hardcore gamers with less money like me that play on consoles (i have an x360) , but again i was talking only about the more demanding android games and got a wrong word , english aint my first lang man
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He may want more than what the iPad can offer though. Also not every version of the iPhone will get the full update so support isn't perfect. As for virus or malware, Apple devices aren't impervious and the rate of infection on android Is grossly over exaggerated. Also not all I devices run Max effects, in fact most can't except the ipad2 and iphone4s.
The only processor that can't run the others as u say is tegra vs everyone else and it's not lack of ability that's the problem it's nvidia paying for exclusive content. Games released first is valid but every other point was uninformed FUD which I kindly ask you don't spread around these forums. Think about the fact that you're posting in a forum where there are people who ACTUALLY know what they are talking about.
Edit: Just one of many articles to prove my point on malware threat on both platforms
http://m.cnet.com/news/should-malware-risks-factor-into-the-iphone-vs-android-debate/57557684?ds=1
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Come on,Let's just be honest
You're telling me android is better because you are an android user !
I'm talking about ipad3/4 & comparing to note 10 & NOT GALAXY TAB OR OUT-DATED DEVICE (like you comparing ipad 2 with high-end devices )(all HD effects are shown on ipad3,4 & I don't know about ipad2,never testedon )
Security is something that user will feel it when playing, browsing,etc...
All of us know that if you don't jailbreak your i-device it's the most secure operating system all around the world.hackers were working on ios6 jailbreak for about 2 months & this shows how secure is ios6. (As I said apps before uploading to appStore will be fully tested )
(((Cracked apps are absolutely a serious source of malware & I don't know you heard about the new method of installing cracked apps on ios without jailbreak, that's a negative point for ios user but if they download from store there will be no problem)))
It's his choice & I'm not forcing him to buy a beast!
Benchmarks are helpful at this moment (if you say note is more powerful in tests {not only CPU, all tests})
But if he is in love with s-pen we can't do anything about that, Ipad comes with huge range of accessories but it doesn't support a s-pen style captive pen(or I didnt seen that,maybe exists)
I still say Ipad & nothing can change my mind :beer: :thumbup: trying both tablets is recommended, judge by your self
Sorry for English, it's not my mother language
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Come on,Let's just be honest
You're telling me android is better because you are an android user !
I'm talking about ipad3/4 & comparing to note 10 & NOT GALAXY TAB OR OUT-DATED DEVICE (like you comparing ipad 2 with high-end devices )(all HD effects are shown on ipad3,4 & I don't know about ipad2,never testedon )
Security is something that user will feel it when playing, browsing,etc...
All of us know that if you don't jailbreak your i-device it's the most secure operating system all around the world.hackers were working on ios6 jailbreak for about 2 months & this shows how secure is ios6. (As I said apps before uploading to appStore will be fully tested )
(((Cracked apps are absolutely a serious source of malware & I don't know you heard about the new method of installing cracked apps on ios without jailbreak, that's a negative point for ios user but if they download from store there will be no problem)))
It's his choice & I'm not forcing him to buy a beast!
Benchmarks are helpful at this moment (if you say note is more powerful in tests {not only CPU, all tests})
But if he is in love with s-pen we can't do anything about that, Ipad comes with huge range of accessories but it doesn't support a s-pen style captive pen(or I didnt seen that,maybe exists)
I still say Ipad & nothing can change my mind :beer: :thumbup: trying both tablets is recommended, judge by your self
Sorry for English, it's not my mother language
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If you read I didn't say even once android is better, not once. I also didn't mention a single outdated device, galaxy tab or otherwise. Also iPad 3&4 don't have all effects enabled as they can't at their resolution. ONLY the iPad 2 and iphone4s/5 do (nova3 looks 800x better on the iPad 2), all others prior can't handle full effects in all games, leaving the iPad 2 which at it's resolution has resources to spare the iOS gamers tab of choice. IOS is not the most secure, that is 1000% false, and it has malware just the same regardless of jailbreaking or not. Jailbreaking taking 2 months is a short period of time and in no way substantiates iOS security. Security is a state of mind for the user, you won't feel it ever during use because it isn't possible to "feel" system security. In fact both android and iOS are worse than blackberry in regards to security from my experience so by that logic that OS is the best. Googles apps store tests apps also, you just have less time between submitting the app and approval, malware rates on the play store are very low and when they do get on are removed quickly. 3rd party stores and sites are the main sources of malware on both platforms. I don't believe in one being better or worse, they're all just different. I really don't care what you pick but don't state opinion as fact because it isn't. you stated a opinion/view, one steming from inexperience and lack of knowledge, which is fine but again don't say anything you said is fact because it isn't.
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^^ i know what a hardcore gamer is , and fyi , what u just talked about is a hardcore gamer with a ****load of money , there are hardcore gamers with less money like me that play on consoles (i have an x360) , but again i was talking only about the more demanding android games and got a wrong word , english aint my first lang man
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The note will play everything just fine, but unless you want the spen there are better options like tegra3 or the nexus 10 if you can find a way to get one on eBay or something. So my advice is unless you want the spen, go w with something like the nexus 7 or 10, or whichever tegra3 or higher based devices you can get in your country.
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Why I asked this is that I think any real "hardcore gamer" would not purchase a tablet of any brand to play games.
Hardcore gamer's have computers that they put many thousands of dollars into, they uses 2 or more monitors, 3 or more video cards, massive water cooler systems that are overclocked, they run gigabit modems, laser mice and special keyboards...... So.... my answer should have be NO.
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Are you in my room O.O? Lol
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Damn jay-z-s... this is the worst place for an IPad lover to make a point... (there is no point to be made anyway, lol) I am in the IT Business and I can tell you something... There is NOT a SINGLE person that I know... NOT even 1... That still thinks IPads are better than Android devices... if, if... the person tasted both devices. I can say that 99% of people (just for not saying a 100%) after using a device like a Note 2, Note 10.1... or S3... will go back to an IPhone or IPad. You just get in your hands an IPhone 5 and in your other hand a Note 2... and there is simply no comparison just by looking at it. You don't even have to do anything... don't even waste time turning them on, just look at them both for 10 seconds... and baaam... that's it. Market share for the IOS is going down at top speed, while Android's market keeps going up and up... Apple is going to have to wake up and start adding Micro SD card slots and do something really impressive with the ipads and iphones... because it will end up very bad for them... At least Microsoft now supports a full OS on their tablets... that's at least something to keep them on the market for more time... Not to be rude, but IOS in my opinion is simply a retard OS that you can just do pretty much nothing with it... With Android you can install another ROM... wow... another launcher, wow... widgets... wow... very, very customizable. With IOS... Hey... New version x.x.1... wow.... more locks! Less options! weeeeee! finally changed the settings icon after a week! Is that even possible? lol
okey thanks guys !
i'll go with the note for a few reasons
1.nexus 10 isn't available here and getting it from ebay i will pay a lot more than the price for the shipment and things like that
2.i want a 10" tablet so the nexus 7 won't be good for me cuz i want to watch movies and read stuff on a big screen
3.the s-pen and stereo speakers on the note look cool !!
so thanks again guys (Y)