SGS3 vs HTC One X RAM - Galaxy S III General

Hello guys... I'm galaxy S3 user. I just want to know that Galaxy s3 & htc one x has same 1 GB ram but for galaxy s3 its showing 778 mb ram in hardware information but htc showing proper 1 gb ram. why this is? Infact, i noticed all htc have same ram as in hardware information bar. Mean s3 have less ram acording to htc one x?

Some RAM is reserved for camera, hardware decoder, etc. I doubt HTC used separate memory chip for each of these, so ONE X software must be reporting false values.
BTW, there are 833 mbytes of RAM available on latest JB leaks, and enthusiasts are looking for a way to increase this number further.

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Reserved for other functions

Stacks with my previous memory changes: total memory: 857mB for now.
Perseus kernel dev succeeded to increase more rams at jb ;D

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Thanx all for giving information. But some says that ram reserved for system & some says reserved for camera & hardware.. hhhmmm then what about htc ram? Is it shows proper 1GB ram included reserved system ram or excluded system ram as sgs3 has.??? By mean as shows 778 mb out of 1GB then where is 222 mb ram which is left. Is 222 mb ram reserved for system use?

One X has more free Ram but everyone who tried both says S3 uses it's Ram better, and the US proves bigger isn't always better.

mrjoy said:
Hello guys... I'm galaxy S3 user. I just want to know that Galaxy s3 & htc one x has same 1 GB ram but for galaxy s3 its showing 778 mb ram in hardware information but htc showing proper 1 gb ram. why this is? Infact, i noticed all htc have same ram as in hardware information bar. Mean s3 have less ram acording to htc one x?
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You are wrong. This has nothing to do with the phones themselves but chip manufacturers. Look at the HTC One X LTE versions, they only have 600mb of RAM.
Yes the International version has close to 1GB of RAM free. This is mostly due to Tegra 3 having dedicated video ram to their GPU where the Exynos and S4 do not.
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SlimJ87D said:
You are wrong. This has nothing to do with the phones themselves but chip manufacturers. Look at the HTC One X LTE versions, they only have 600mb of RAM.
Yes the International version has close to 1GB of RAM free. This is mostly due to Tegra 3 having dedicated video ram to their GPU where the Exynos and S4 do not.
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aahh.. means s3 does not have video ram???

Yes, we can squeeze out as much ram as possible but I believe a good portion of it will always be reserved for hardware.
I did a lot of studies with my US One X and the International One X.
Anyways, to answer your question it is the Tegra 3 chip set that has 1GB of RAM, it's like that on the Asus transformer also.
Compare the US One S and One X, you see the same Ram usage pretty much and same SoC. But the international with Tegra 3 and everything else that uses a Tegra 3 from what I have seen (there might be some with 4glte radios that require ram also) has 1GB of RAM.
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it mean tegra 3 chip is more faster phone than galaxy s3.??? bcoz tegra 3 chip has 1 GB of RAM.

mrjoy said:
it mean tegra 3 chip is more faster phone than galaxy s3.??? bcoz tegra 3 chip has 1 GB of RAM.
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No.
The S3 has 1gb of ram too.
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No, not at all. RAM, CPU and (if the gui is properly programmed) GPU can all affect how your phone functions and feels. The S3 uses a more better engineered chip set than the Tegra in the CPU and GPU department.
Most importantly is software though. As the way things are, if Android doesn't figure out a way to optimize their OS to universally work for any kind of hardware it might lose out to WP8.
Not in the hacking department though since WP8 will be closed source.
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@SlimJ87D
thnx for giving kind information.... I respect your answere..

Tegras don't have dedicated GPU RAM, they don't differ to the Exynos in the way they handle that. The reason is purely software based, and some SoCs having reserved memory spaces for internal functions. I have now 856mB useable on my kernel for example.

The leaked jb firmwares gives you 833mb ram.
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AndreiLux said:
Tegras don't have dedicated GPU RAM, they don't differ to the Exynos in the way they handle that. The reason is purely software based, and some SoCs having reserved memory spaces for internal functions. I have now 856mB useable on my kernel for example.
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See that would make sense if every Tegra device from different companies like Asus, htc and Motorola, etc would have different ram uses since they all build their roms with custom ui, etc. Every company has their own custom kernels as well. But that is not the case, or is it a giant coincidence most if not all the Tegra devices show .950 gb free of memory? Including the Nexus 7.
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See that would make sense if every Tegra device from different companies like Asus, htc and Motorola, etc would have different ram uses since they all build their roms with custom ui, etc. Every company has their own custom kernels as well. But that is not the case, or is it a giant coincidence most if not all the Tegra devices show .950 gb free of memory? Including the Nexus 7.
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Sorry but no you don't know what you are talking about, Nvidia does the basic platform kernel for their SoC, the manufacturers don't do anything more than adapt it. ROM also doesn't have anything to do with it

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upgrading evo 4g to 1or 2 gigs internal ram ?

Just a dumb question but has any one tried removing and replacing the ram chip on an evo 4g with a larger one like 1 or 2 gig , I have an old sony ux 280 and many people have unsoldered the core single and replaced it with a core duo just wondered if this had been tried with the evo
thanks
I don't think its possible to remove and replace the ram on a soc.
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anything's possible... i'd be surprised if it wasn't, but i personally don't want to ruin my phone trying unless its been done haha
austin420 said:
I don't think its possible to remove and replace the ram on a soc.
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I don't think the snapdragon in the EVO contains the ram, I think it's separate. However, with that said, I still don't see anyone removing and replacing it with an upgraded chip.
The size difference between an intel CPU (in the OP's post) and the ram inside a phone is pretty extreme.
It would be better to simply upgrade to a better phone. Not only would you get more ram but a better cpu, higher capacity ROM, and who knows what.
Besides, where are you going to find a larger RAM chip to upgrade to? Cannibalize it from another better phone?

[Q] RAM amount

Hello,
I just bought a nexus 10 and I have a question about the RAM amount. It's supposed to have 2GB of RAM but in my device it show only 1.23GB....
Is it normal? In my nexus 4 it shows 1.83GB.
Thanks and best regards.
Forget it. I just read that 800MB from the RAM are reserved for the GPU. Like a ****ing laptop...
Uhh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40030815
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204404
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146679
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008146
Edit: took me too long haha
the_boo said:
Uhh...
Edit: took me too long haha
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Thank you very much for your time.
2 gb = big lie from manufactures
400 mb = true
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samwheat said:
2 gb = big lie from manufactures
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Not really. They are telling the truth that there is 2GB of RAM installed. Just hate that almost half of it isn't usable by the intended purpose...
Should of just thrown 2.8GB of RAM on the board and gave 800MB directly to the GPU.
It isnt just the Nexus 10 that has this shared memory, most phones and tablets do. There are specific chipsets that have their own dedicated vram, like Tegra 3. Having dedicated vram chips has to do with how the memory controller is designed in the chipset architecture.

2.38GB RAM?

What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
It is Normal if you have the Snapdragon variant
androidlover287 said:
What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
androidlover287 said:
I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
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I am glad, enjoy your beast
SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
mmmooo said:
any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LG can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
SAVVAS. said:
To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LB can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
benhouli said:
nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
SAVVAS. said:
As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
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thanks for the info
mmmooo said:
Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
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From what I have seen so far, reviews-videos-comments,it seems that ram is not an issue on Snapdragon variants! Time will tell, that's for sure
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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G2 has sd800 + adreno 330, 1080p, but doesn't reserve anywhere near that much (granted has less to start). And yet doesn't seem to suffer from any performance issues. Something just isn't adding up for me, and don't have one yet to see for myself..
They made it that way for a reason. All that S stuff and Pen doesn't function on memory. It runs on ram. What you don't see is the "dedicated" amount of ram taken. Just like video cards.
The G2 has the same amount of ram being taken, it just doesn't show it. Same design for the GPro.
Your phone's are fine, and don't worry about all the free ram you don't see. Some of the ram that is shown as being used is reserved so apps aren't pulled from memory. It's pulled from RAM instead. It's more battery friendly.
It costs more battery power to have 'free' RAM sit there and then having apps occupy it, compared to the ram already being cached.
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No offense, but that's just nonsense. More physical ram takes more battery, that's true. But that's purely physical ram, regardless of what is, or isn't stored on it, as data stored in ram is no different if its marked free, or used.
And the lg 'not showing it', is more nonsense.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the phone, just that something doesn't add up, and would like to find out what that is legitimately, not based on nonsense/fud.
best for gaming?
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
Ali_Ejea said:
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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That doesn't explain why Exynos version has 2.70gb RAM vs 2.40gb RAM in the Snapdragon.
I may not be the best judge, having came from a phone with 1GB of RAM, but the Galaxy Note 3 has been a beast when it comes to multitasking for me. I'm pleasantly surprised when I switch to an app I haven't used for a while and it's STILL in active memory (i.e. doesn't have to reload). My old Galaxy Nexus used to drive me nuts with that, pretty much could only have 2, maybe 3 apps open at once.
SAVVAS. said:
I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
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Can you tell me the reason bro? I am going to place my order tommorow so i just want to ensure that which one of those two is better for gaming and why? Plz reply me as soon as possible... Thanks
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And one more thing, is there any octa core variant of Note 3 with 4g LTE support?

Enormous RAM usage

Since updating to KitKat RAM usage has been awful, 700 MB is minimum. It kills my multitasking because every background app is killed.. Any sollutions? Thanks
Same here. Google said they will improve ram usage with kitkat but they made it more trash.
matejilic said:
Since updating to KitKat RAM usage has been awful, 700 MB is minimum. It kills my multitasking because every background app is killed.. Any sollutions? Thanks
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Interesting as I'm using a custom ROM (see my signature) which is android v4.4.2 and I'm consistently seeing the lowest used memory since v4.3 took more for graphics. With 4.3 I was seeing 76% used now I see as low as 53%. With regular 66%.
If apps are restarting it is not noticeable.
3DSammy said:
Interesting as I'm using a custom ROM (see my signature) which is android v4.4.2 and I'm consistently seeing the lowest used memory since v4.3 took more for graphics. With 4.3 I was seeing 76% used now I see as low as 53%. With regular 66%.
If apps are restarting it is not noticeable.
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How much ram is that percent out of though? Third tablet is supposed to have 2 GB ram and I know they say the GPU takes some but I'm also only seeing about 800 mega bytes actually used and out of that only around 200-300 free. It's not really an issue for me but why dues the GPU need so much
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abdel12345 said:
How much ram is that percent out of though? Third tablet is supposed to have 2 GB ram and I know they say the GPU takes some but I'm also only seeing about 800 mega bytes actually used and out of that only around 200-300 free. It's not really an issue for me but why dues the GPU need so much
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I was referring to a Nexus 10, so 2GB. Performance/screen resolution is the reason for so much memory allotted to the GPU. Combined with the OS requirements it seems as if there should be more available but PC's have been allocating memory to GPUs for years.
We have already seen some tablets with 3GB and soon with 64 bit ARM processors and an Android OS to match we'll see 4GB tabs.
As you mentioned unless you are impacted this is much to do about nothing.
3DSammy said:
I was referring to a Nexus 10, so 2GB. Performance/screen resolution is the reason for so much memory allotted to the GPU. Combined with the OS requirements it seems as if there should be more available but PC's have been allocating memory to GPUs for years.
We have already seen some tablets with 3GB and soon with 64 bit ARM processors and an Android OS to match we'll see 4GB tabs.
As you mentioned unless you are impacted this is much to do about nothing.
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I was talking about my nexus 10 too.
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[Q] RAM missing?

Hi
I´m kind of new here but still haven´t found an answer why my Nexus only shows 1097 RAM instad of 2000? Even tried different hardware checker and they all tell me the same. Have I made I bad flash?
Davidkallen said:
Hi
I´m kind of new here but still haven´t found an answer why my Nexus only shows 1097 RAM instad of 2000? Even tried different hardware checker and they all tell me the same. Have I made I bad flash?
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The 2GB ram on the device must accommodate both the operating system and graphics Ram before any apps are loaded. So what you see is normal. This is no different for laptops. Also the 16 or 32 GB internal storage shows less after formatting and Android OS plus Google apps (Gapps) are installed. At least with the Nexus 10 you have much less bloatware compared to other Tablets (eg. Samsung).
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3DSammy said:
The 2GB ram on the device must accommodate both the operating system and graphics Ram before any apps are loaded. So what you see is normal. This is no different for laptops. Also the 16 or 32 GB internal storage shows less after formatting and Android OS plus Google apps (Gapps) are installed. At least with the Nexus 10 you have much less bloatware compared to other Tablets (eg. Samsung).
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Thanks for you answer 3Dsammy.
I understand that you use RAM when things are installed, But I still dont get it. When I was on stock it showed in settings 2 gb RAM. And now Hardware info (app) System RAM 1097?. Same with Clean sweeper.
Davidkallen said:
I understand that you use RAM when things are installed, But I still dont get it. When I was on stock it showed in settings 2 gb RAM. And now Hardware info (app) System RAM 1097?. Same with Clean sweeper.
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Nexus 10 has never shown 2gb available, I've had it since launch and I believe the most I've ever seen was back on 4.2 was about 1400MB or so, and it has gone down from there on each update. You never get what they advertise on the box, every single one of my devices has less than whats advertised, my Note 3 is supposed to have 3gb available, but really its only 2.38 after its said and done..
1098 is normal on 4.4.2 for N10, I've attached a shot from mine ... I can only assume most of it is being reserved for the GPU and its super high resolution.
** These threads might have more information you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377356
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463178
Hi,
As already stated here, just clearing a little the information for you .
The Nexus 10 has a huge screen resolution, therefore it requires a more powerful GPU, even having a pretty powerful graphic processors which is the MALI, it's not powerful enough for the 1600p screen, so they allocated ≈1GB to the graphic unit to prevent any possible issues.
Also, there are some apps running in background, so it takes some RAM too.
Hope this clarifies a little ,
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Thank for your help:good:
I did notice that with slim kat 4.2.2 I have 1647 ram available and with 4.4.2 slim kat I had 1099.
so I thought that Kit Kat uses less RAM but I don't really see it with those comparisons.
Joe

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