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Why do they do this?

Ok we live in an age where our phones can pretty much do anything we need on a fly but for the life of me I just don't understand why they come with only a 1500 battery. Is there a reason why they can't give us a 3000 battery or better and still have the same phycial size of a 1500 battery.
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blackdragon79 said:
Ok we live in an age where our phones can pretty much do anything we need on a fly but for the life of me I just don't understand why they come with only a 1500 battery. Is there a reason why they can't give us a 3000 battery or better and still have the same phycial size of a 1500 battery.
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Because the aliens have not granted us access to a high enough level of technology to allow it.
The battery in your phone is an incredible piece of technology. Let me tell you about my Zach Morris phone from 1987...

blackdragon79 said:
Ok we live in an age where our phones can pretty much do anything we need on a fly but for the life of me I just don't understand why they come with only a 1500 battery. Is there a reason why they can't give us a 3000 battery or better and still have the same phycial size of a 1500 battery.
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Because then the phones look like this:
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Yes, that is the Verizon Thunderbolt with the stock extended battery.

Why doesn't my car get 300miles to the gallon?!

Basically, it's physics and safety. A LiPo battery would provide more storage, however they can explode when damaged or old. Youtube showcases quite a few examples. Personally, I think Apple is crazy for using them in the iPhone 4. I'm sure they have taken reasonable precautions, but I can't help imagining the thing going off in some poor man's pants!
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muyoso said:
Because then the phones look like this:
Yes, that is the Verizon Thunderbolt with the stock extended battery.
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That's ugly. That's why I said keep the same physical size lol
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Maybe Tony Stark will share his technology and then we will never have to charge our phones.. Come on Tony, where is the leak???

Its all lies....

muyoso said:
Because then the phones look like this:
Yes, that is the Verizon Thunderbolt with the stock extended battery.
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Lolokilililololol. That thing is ugly. No wonder they done give us more pawer!

abduljaffar said:
Lolokilililololol. That thing is ugly. No wonder they done give us more pawer!
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Yea, I dont understand why they cant just create a battery that isn't EXACTLY rectangular, so that it could conform to the entire back of a phone.. Battery life would be gigantic.

muyoso said:
Yea, I dont understand why they cant just create a battery that isn't EXACTLY rectangular, so that it could conform to the entire back of a phone.. Battery life would be gigantic.
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They need room for the camera, speaker, etc.

063_XOBX said:
They need room for the camera, speaker, etc.
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Take our phone for example. If the stock battery was 2mm thicker, it would create a cavity just above where the battery sticks out from where it could extend into right up until the camera lens.
Battery would look like this:
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Want that. For example, with the extended battery I have, it could literally be at least double the capacity it is now without needing a new back cover, if it really filled up every mm of the back cover.

muyoso said:
Because then the phones look like this:
Yes, that is the Verizon Thunderbolt with the stock extended battery.
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*organ keys crash* ahhhhhh get it away from me! Lol
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There are prevailing techs to increase battery life if you read Engadget...but they are still in test phase..but I will say this...the EVO/TP2 battery is practically 1.5x-2x the size of our battery..so I dont at least see why they can't put a 2250mah-3000mah battery thats the size of the TP2 battery..but I guess its because we are all (or at least majority) so obsessed with thinness...
What they can also make is a back cover thats a battery >.>..I mean there is no rule that it has to be square...if they do that they can easily fit 3000-4000mah without sacrificing too much depth...

gTen said:
There are prevailing techs to increase battery life if you read Engadget...but they are still in test phase..but I will say this...the EVO/TP2 battery is practically 1.5x-2x the size of our battery..so I dont at least see why they can't put a 2250mah-3000mah battery thats the size of the TP2 battery..but I guess its because we are all (or at least majority) so obsessed with thinness...
What they can also make is a back cover thats a battery >.>..I mean there is no rule that it has to be square...if they do that they can easily fit 3000-4000mah without sacrificing too much depth...
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The Evo battery is 1500mah
The TP2 battery is 1500mah
The Epic4g battery is 1500mah

Not to mention there is the weight such a large battery would add, I know I am not the only person who doesn't want a phone that weighs half a pound or more.

063_XOBX said:
Not to mention there is the weight such a large battery would add, I know I am not the only person who doesn't want a phone that weighs half a pound or more.
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It would be like.carrying a brick around. Lol
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foxBlade107 said:
Basically, it's physics and safety. A LiPo battery would provide more storage, however they can explode when damaged or old. Youtube showcases quite a few examples. Personally, I think Apple is crazy for using them in the iPhone 4. I'm sure they have taken reasonable precautions, but I can't help imagining the thing going off in some poor man's pants!
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I don't know. I have Ericsson T28w, still works well and no issues with its LiPo battery.
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foxBlade107 said:
Basically, it's physics and safety. A LiPo battery would provide more storage, however they can explode when damaged or old. Youtube showcases quite a few examples. Personally, I think Apple is crazy for using them in the iPhone 4. I'm sure they have taken reasonable precautions, but I can't help imagining the thing going off in some poor man's pants!
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the only real problem with the lipos that i have seen with my radio control cars is that you cant let them go dead or they will not charge again, and thats about it. I know theres more to it than JUST that, like they can explode somehow but thats what i have experienced.

People don't seem to mind the weight of the Evo which is noticeably heavier than our Epics. I wouldn't mind the weight if it DOUBLED my battery life.
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Awesome news

I just scored a 1650 mAh battery from a galaxy s 4g for my epic. I'm loving the battery boost.
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Yay?...
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I dont mean to be a jeek im just very excited
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whats a jeek?

How muc more time r you seeing?

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Thats a 10% boost in power. Not that bad if it works. Wonder how much the OEM 1650's will sell for. If its more than like 15 dollars, which it will be, then I prob wont buy one.

muyoso said:
Thats a 10% boost in power.
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Not likely, the cheapo batteries usually are ~1200mah batteries with a different sticker on them.

063_XOBX said:
Not likely, the cheapo batteries usually are ~1200mah batteries with a different sticker on them.
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Who said anything about a cheapo battery. He said he scored a 1650mah from the Galaxy S 4g. I assume that to mean he got ahold of one of the OEM batteries for that phone.

I was replying to you directly, as you said:
If its more than like 15 dollars, which it will be, then I prob wont buy one
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And that would be a cheapo battery

063_XOBX said:
I was replying to you directly, as you said:
And that would be a cheapo battery
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That would be a cheapo 3500mah battery which in reality is like 2400-2600mah.

063_XOBX said:
I was replying to you directly, as you said:
And that would be a cheapo battery
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OWNED.....

I havent gotten to see a full days use because I got it straight out of the gs4g box and have been charging it on/off I'm gonna charge it in full and see how long I last in wifi hotspot mode
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jeffyv2 said:
OWNED.....
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Yes, he owned me by first quoting part of my comment and then later saying he was referring to a different part of my comment. I am so ashamed.

Where did u get it
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I have a 3500mah battery that gives me 40hrs and still have about 30% left. What's there to hooray about an extra 150mah?

LordLugard said:
I have a 3500mah battery that gives me 40hrs and still have about 30% left. What's there to hooray about an extra 150mah?
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And it hasn't exploded yet! I don't think I could do it though. It's all about upgrading to save battery life for me now. Don't really wanna crush the hobby.

churro7 said:
Where did u get it
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Well cant go into details really but Someone I know was returning the phone(gs4g) , got it a day earlier so I did a switcharoo with the batteries. The batteries are identical in size the only way to tell it is a different one is the extra 150mAh.
I am seeing a noticeable boost in battery life, I can now keep 4g on all day and use the apps pretty heavily without worrying about the battery level. It does take a bit longer to charge the battery fully, but I'll trade that for more phone time any day.

I have the sedio 3300mah battery, don't mind the size but it takes forever to recharge. I got the samsung charger, and fr me its better to just swap battery's.
After reading the I'm try to pick up the 1650mah battery. Thanks for the heads up
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LordLugard said:
I have a 3500mah battery that gives me 40hrs and still have about 30% left. What's there to hooray about an extra 150mah?
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It will increase stock battery life by about 10% while being able to use the same back. The 3500mah battery is really only like 2400-2600mah while the 1650 mah battery will really be like 1600mah. To people who dont want a fatter phone or who use the docks, it would be a good deal if the 1650mah was pretty cheap. To people like me who have the "3500mah" battery, doesn't make much sense unless its REAAAAL cheap.

This is depressing

Its kind of depressing to know that my dad gets more out of his iPhone
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sdhanjal15 said:
Its kind of depressing to know that my dad gets more out of his iPhone
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Maybe he doesn't use his phone as much as you do! and batteries wear out pretty fast too!

Does your dad know about xda? Oh.. right iPhone's dont have any development!
He might get more battery life (probably minimal use) but i HIGHLY doubt he gets "more" out of that thing than what your beautiful..sexy..ahem your nexus gives you.

Hahah true. Verry true
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The dev is true but having both an iPhone4 and Nexus S in the house (And galaxy tab 8.9, iPad 2, HTC Sensation and One X) I can be pretty certain that you can use the iPhone a LOT more than the Nexus between charges.
The Nexus got massive improvements with 4.x though, that must be said.

Hey, am I the only one who saw the "iPhone has been plugged in since the last full charge" message??
Doesn't this invalidate the comparation?

You can hate on apple all you want people but stop with the fanboy nonsense.
It is a fact that the iPhone/ios gets far better battery life then nexus s/ android period. No if ands or butts about it.
What's next ? Blackberrys don't really have better battery life ?

albundy2010 said:
You can hate on apple all you want people but stop with the fanboy nonsense.
It is a fact that the iPhone/ios gets far better battery life then nexus s/ android period. No if ands or butts about it.
What's next ? Blackberrys don't really have better battery life ?
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But everybody hates the Apple motto...
'They did something similar to us but a lot better, lets sue them'

sdhanjal15 said:
Its kind of depressing to know that my dad gets more out of his iPhone
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End it all man, no more pain...
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sdhanjal15 said:
Its kind of depressing to know that my dad gets more out of his iPhone
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Iphone has a 3,5" screen and the nexus s 4". The screen drains a big part pf battery
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matheusrc said:
Hey, am I the only one who saw the "iPhone has been plugged in since the last full charge" message??
Doesn't this invalidate the comparation?
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It counts syncing
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In the end it doesn't really matter how much the battery can last for , but the user experience. The nexus is still better than anything.
The one I complain about about is the lack of games in the market..
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Screen size is nonsense. Take a Android phone will the same 3.5 screen. Battery is still way worse.
Hate apple all you want. I can't stand them either. Just stop being fan boys and admit that do some things well. Battery in particular

albundy2010 said:
Screen size is nonsense. Take a Android phone will the same 3.5 screen. Battery is still way worse.
Hate apple all you want. I can't stand them either. Just stop being fan boys and admit that do some things well. Battery in particular
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Compiled code runs faster and more efficiently than interpreted code, one of the advantages of C/obj-c vs java/dalvik VM
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And don't forget about set up . As I learned from skunkape and john Corleone from the 4g thread , set up goes a long way. These guys get close to a day and sometimes more with 4-6 hours screen on time. I get 13-18 hours with a little less screen on time. Many screen shots were provided to reflect this . To me , none of the phones are bad . Its all in what you like.
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matheusrc said:
Hey, am I the only one who saw the "iPhone has been plugged in since the last full charge" message??
Doesn't this invalidate the comparation?
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You were the only one willing to use their neck to compensate for an unrotated photo ;D
Yes, I think you are right. It still would win in a screen on competition, but you are right about this.

nailerr said:
You were the only one willing to use their neck to compensate for an unrotated photo ;D
Yes, I think you are right. It still would win in a screen on competition, but you are right about this.
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hahahhaha!
Thats true, stretched my neck a little
I agree that iPhone would still win the match. In the end we have to balance everything that we want in a smartphone, so it turned out that android features weighted a little more in our case

you know what i do in that situation that you can't with the iphone? pop in a spare battery

matheusrc said:
Hey, am I the only one who saw the "iPhone has been plugged in since the last full charge" message??
Doesn't this invalidate the comparation?
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You are correct
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Right, that screenshot tells nothing. The numbers are since the last full charge, but don't say anything about how long it's been partly charged since then. Useless.
Fact is: I have two colleagues with an iPhone 4 and a 4s, both about the same setup (syncing apps) and usage. None of them ever lasts through the day, while I normally go to bed with 20-30%.

Hyperion 4000 mah Mini review!

Hey everyone,
i've been rocking this.
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Sams...ywords=hyperion+samsung+galaxy+s+III+4000+mah
for about 4-5 days now.. ordered it off Amazon for a STUPID cheap price.. and i must say.. wow. 5/5
I normally like Mugen better, and i'm going to get a mugen battery whenever they make one..but this a GREAT replacement for the time being..
i have a PEBBLE BLUE T-Mobile galaxy S III as well.. and the White back actually looks really nice MIXED with the blue!
Also i love the FEEL of the back.. i actually like it better then the Stock GS3 itself.. it adds more weight and SOLID feel to the overall product and i LOVE IT! it's better then a stock GS3 by far.. actually feels like it's own new phone.
The battery life? definitely top notch.. i get by 3 days sometimes with heavy usage, texts, FB.. Sync turned on GPS.. all of it.
Highly recommend this... :good::good:

.......me want...IF there was a case, take some pics please? C:
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Could you post a screen shot of your battery stats? Also What is the recharge time? When i was racing Brushless RC Cars, i know lipos have a decent charge time deppending on Milliamps.
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Edit Again : Could you post a picture of the inside of the battery cover? With it being so bulky, i would like to see how strong it looks?

Alright ill get some pictures for you guys =)
Also you want battery stats? should i wait until it's drained all the way down?
The back battery cover is DEFINITELY stronger then the stock SGS3 back.

How long does it take to charge with the stock charger?

1SiK1500 said:
Could you post a screen shot of your battery stats? Also What is the recharge time? When i was racing Brushless RC Cars, i know lipos have a decent charge time deppending on Milliamps.
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Edit Again : Could you post a picture of the inside of the battery cover? With it being so bulky, i would like to see how strong it looks?
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Recharge time is VERY fast!

Right now CURRENTLY i'm doing a test (optimal usage) to see what it's like ill post results when i'm done.
but currently, i have on SCREEN BRIGHTNESS AUTO (OFF) Set to 50%
Running a live wallpaper as well, Sync on, GPS on, Several apps like FB, Google + Dropbox all set to Auto.
been unplugged this morning for 4 hours and i'm at 85%
**EDIT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT NOTE* i used it for probably a straight hour just configuring my screen and making folders as well. =)

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hows the camera with the back on?

Not gonna lie. For the price. Who wouldnt want it just for a spare or a long day out and about..

1SiK1500 said:
Not gonna lie. For the price. Who wouldnt want it just for a spare or a long day out and about..
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The only problem with carrying it as a spare is you also need to carry the battery cover. But if you were to order two of them..... use one as your main battery and carry the second one as a spare and you don't need to carry an extra battery cover.
BTW, anyone know how it might compare to this one? It looks pretty much the same but comes with a charger. http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Exten...external/dp/B008ARDVM4/ref=pd_bxgy_cps_text_b

cmg5461 said:
hows the camera with the back on?
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Camera works PERFECT as normal with the back on!

BonesHopkins said:
The only problem with carrying it as a spare is you also need to carry the battery cover. But if you were to order two of them..... use one as your main battery and carry the second one as a spare and you don't need to carry an extra battery cover.
BTW, anyone know how it might compare to this one? It looks pretty much the same but comes with a charger. http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Exten...external/dp/B008ARDVM4/ref=pd_bxgy_cps_text_b
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I did not get this one because i don't even see a brand name listed,
Hyperion is a brandname i can at least recognize

I ordered this as well and after a 1 foot fall off my bed onto carpet the rigid plastic battery cover broke a corner off. IMO the back is not as good quality as may be advertised here. YMMV. I'm using the stock battery and an otterbox now for the protection.
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dante2512 said:
I ordered this as well and after a 1 foot fall off my bed onto carpet the rigid plastic battery cover broke a corner off. IMO the back is not as good quality as may be advertised here. YMMV. I'm using the stock battery and an otterbox now for the protection.
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Well i can't vouch for dropping it.
in all the years of owning a smartphone every single iphone model, several android models i've never done any brutal drops to my phones. ever
**the other thing is... it's 15$.. i mean crap.. you can't even beat that as a BACK replacement.. take the battery out of the equation most BACKS would probably cost 20$ if found in the mall..
So 15$ its a steal. buy 2 if you need to.

is there a 3000 mah that doesnt require a new back?

incubus26jc said:
is there a 3000 mah that doesnt require a new back?
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I don't think so.

Do you know if Wallet still works with this one? I read the NFC antenna is part of the battery
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evoer said:
Do you know if Wallet still works with this one? I read the NFC antenna is part of the battery
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From my understanding is only the OE battery supports any NFC function.

Battery Life

I've been having battery life issues on my galaxy s4 for ever since I got it and I just took off the battery and behind it says thirteen hundred maH hours instead of 2600. Does anyone know what this means?
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Could you take a picture of your battery?
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Take your battery out and look by the s/n on the back. It will read 2600mAh

xBeerdroiDx said:
Take your battery out and look by the s/n on the back. It will read 2600mAh
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That's what I thought but mine says 1300. Wait one second I'll try to get a picture.
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drucquerkellan said:
That's what I thought but mine says 1300. Wait one second I'll try to get a picture.
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Did you buy this new? From a reputable source?

drucquerkellan said:
That's what I thought but mine says 1300. Wait one second I'll try to get a picture.
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look at the battery...not the phone. the battery will say 2600.

alphadog00 said:
Did you buy this new? From a reputable source?
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Yes at at&t and here is a picture
xBeerdroiDx said:
look at the battery...not the phone. the battery will say 2600.
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I am not sure why you crossed out the FCC ID stuff and not the IMEI, but your battery is normal. The 1300 you see is the max power draw of the device. It is not rated in mAh as it is not a storage device.
Your battery is fine. That is the 2600mAh one that we all have as stock.
You never gave any details on what your battery life issues are, your usage patterns or any other details. But your battery and phone look normal.

alphadog00 said:
I am not sure why you crossed out the FCC ID stuff and not the IMEI, but your battery is normal. The 1300 you see is the max power draw of the device. It is not rated in mAh as it is not a storage device.
Your battery is fine. That is the 2600mAh one that we all have as stock.
You never gave any details on what your battery life issues are, your usage patterns or any other details. But your battery and phone look normal.
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Oh sorry I was in a hurry and crossed out the wrong things. Also my usage patterns are less than average and I believe there is something wake locking the device or something because the battery dies even when the screen isn't on. But I am losing about 3% a minute and about 2% without the screen even being on. And all I'm doing is browsing the web.
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drucquerkellan said:
Oh sorry I was in a hurry and crossed out the wrong things. Also my usage patterns are less than average and I believe there is something wake locking the device or something because the battery dies even when the screen isn't on. But I am losing about 3% a minute and about 2% without the screen even being on. And all I'm doing is browsing the web.
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checkout better battery stats to identify whats eating your battery.
are you rooted/running a custom rom, etc?

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You may want to cover up that IMEI number...

For sure...delete the image soon.