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At&ts acquisition of T mobile might be very good for Sprint

At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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What should Sprint do with Clearwire?

I dont havea clue. As I understand it, Sprint has plans of using its 800mhz spectrum for future 4g service. I don't know what they could possibly do with Clear's 2.5 GHZ spectrum.
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What should Sprint do with Clearwire?
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lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....

snowmanwithahat said:
lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....
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If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.

DarkManX4lf said:
If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.
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Sprint is worth about $267.64, T-Mobile is more than they can afford pal.

If this merger goes anything like the AT&T/Cingular merger the combined new company is bound to lose a ton of subscribers. That merger was a clusterfudge and a half and is the reason I'm a Sprint customer now.

I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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If I had a good chunck of money lying around I'd invest in Sprint as they have big plans for the future. Restating what someone above already said, AT&T aquiring T-Mobile is just going ot increase Sprint's number of subscribers, paired with their rumored and "unofficial confirmed?" lol if that makes sense - decision to move to LTE and finally topped with next weeks CTIA event where some REAL nice phones / tablets are expected to drop - Sprint is in for a subscriber boost. I'm on Sprint right now with my Epic 4G and had plans to possibly switch to t-mobile or At&t but now that At&t is buying Tmobile and will probably eliminate all Unlimited plans and sprint will get some actually nice phones that don't have a keyboard - I am definitely going to be sticking around! Oh and besides all that I just moved to West hills and now I have beautiful 4G coverage ALL through my house with 5 -7 Mbps down and 1 - 2 Mbps up So I'm one happy camper and its all about to get better when I upgrade the day Sprint releases their new phones to the public! Man waiting really pays off!
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You are amongthe select who has 4g
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Agree. Sprint should benefit in economy theory.

churro7 said:
I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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Wow, you're quite lucky - or maybe I just wasn't so lucky. They screwed me around quite badly. I'm not going to turn this into a flame AT&T thread, but generally speaking I was with AT&T since the analog days and they made it impossible for me to continue to use them as a direct result of that merger. Took my 3 lines to Sprint and never looked back. Best wishes to any happy T-mobile users out there who are going to be converted if the feds approve this.

all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now

churro7 said:
all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now
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Sorry, I have to rant here for a minute...
1st, I had just bought a new phone on the AT&T blue side. When they wanted to migrate me to the "orange" billing system because I wanted to up my minutes they told me I'd have to buy another new phone and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. I wound up unlocking my phone myself and using the orange sim in it anyway.
Also, at the time I had 3 phone lines in 2 different area codes. They told me the new billing system wouldn't let me do that and I had to change a phone number that I had with them for several years. I ended up having to split the one line off onto its own account which cost quite a bit more per month but had no choice at the time and was generally happy with my coverage and equipment otherwise.
I also regularly dialed international long distance @ 85 cents/minute which equated to several hundred dollars a month (over $700 one month) which I always paid on time and with a smile. Shortly after they migrated my account I had an emergency while traveling and desperately needed to dial international which I was no longer able to do. I called AT&T post haste and they told me "We're sorry, since you've been a customer less than 90 days we cannot permit you to dial internationally". I explained the situation that since migrating to the new billing system I had a new account number and provided my old account number for them to verify. They claimed there was nothing they could do and I could appeal to a manager which would take 7-10 business days. I wound up talking to a complete stranger about my situation who let me use his landline. We had no idea what it would cost him to dial international from his line, so I gave him $50 which he refused but I insisted he take it. I moved carriers within days of that ordeal.
Thats just no way to treat an 8 year loyal, multi-line, international dialing customer dealing with a life and death situation. Money was never the issue, terrible customer relations was. Thats why I want to wish all those poor TMO users good luck - I hope they don't have the same experience.

litechocolate said:
At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!

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great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!
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Agreed. AT&T is going to screw everybody. Look what they are already doing to T-Mobile Girl.
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Looks like it may be time to buy some Sprint stock.
EDIT: LOL It went down 16% today.

(OFFICAL THREAD) At&t and T-Mobile merges, what's your thought on this?

According to a very well known site to me www.tmonews.com, the site states that At&t and T-Mobile agreed to join forces and will soon be working together. So what does this mean for us streak users? Feel free to post your thoughts and opinions in this thread.

hate it
this made me feel sick in the stomach,when i first read it at dslreports,this is not good for competion or pricing.
im with att,but used to be with tmo...and its customer service/pricing/data usage... blew att out of the water ....now hearing this sucks
im only with att,cause im on a second family line
looks like there will be only one gsm network,and vz will probally buy sprint,so we will have one cdma/lte
so we will have att vs verizon for all us mobile carriers.....maybe

It going to suck for t-moble. There was an article saying that t-monble hads the best customer service an att was the worst.

mokokawi said:
this made me feel sick in the stomach,when i first read it at dslreports,this is not good for competion or pricing.
im with att,but used to be with tmo...and its customer service/pricing/data usage... blew att out of the water ....now hearing this sucks
im only with att,cause im on a second family line
looks like there will be only one gsm network,and vz will probally buy sprint,so we will have one cdma/lte
so we will have att vs verizon for all us mobile carriers.....maybe
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I can somewhat relate. I was with tmo for the past 7 years and I made the switch to at&t only a month ago because I wanted the streak. I agree that tmo had amazing customer support and their plans were pretty good as well, and to see both company's joining forces is not a bad thing in my eyes. I only hope that at&t will take in some of t-mobiles plans and offer it to us. To have the ability of 5GB data cap wouldn't be that bad and to not have to pay $10 bucks for an extra gig would be even better.

This is bad. It will allow carriers to do horrible things to their customers like no unlimited data. BAD BAD BAD.

I personally have been trying to convince the wife to change to AT&T or Verizon so welcome this change.
I'm tired of having to get unlocked AT&T phones due to T-Mobiles crap phone selections.

Its like in Canada you either got bell or rogers ...and they both wanna rape you so either way if you got a phone ...you getting. Raped
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It's good IMO. T-Mobile wanted to be bought, it was going to happen eventually. Instead of being purchased by Sprint and having to be converted to CDMA, they'll be purchased by ATT and will insist in increasing network density for 3G and LTE.
It does leave a possible void in the discount arena, but Sprint and MetroPCS can fill that. T-Mobile lost 400K subscribers last quarter, something had to happen.
I wouldn't mind seeing Sprint gobble up Metro (like techs in cdma) and giving us 3 solid choices. Having spotty service carriers like T-Mobile helps no one.
I did read that in the short term ATT and TMobile towers would go dual mode so each group of customers would get better service. So, right from the start that's a positive.
I'm going to be mad if ATT treats this as anything more then a means to resolve there density issues.

Do not like. I am on att because its way cheaper to pay my parents to be on their plan than to have my own. I figured once I start making more money I would switch to tmobile because they have good phones and impose less carrier restrictions. Now they are joining att who (would like) to rule their plans like tyrants. Now I dont know what I'm going to do.

That's a shame....Springfield Missouri had a HUGE T-Mobile customer support center open up a couple years ago. Must be 2-300 people working there.
You can bet the death star will can that, and off shore it somewhere else.
Also, bad for t-mobile users, and wireless users in general, because, you can
bet Verizon will be right up to gobble up Sprint (t-mobile +at&t +gsm...Verizon + sprint + cdma). Then there will only be two wireless providers in the USA.
Of course, we all know, that they won't get together to screw the end users LOL.
It's funny, we (USA) spent a lot of money in an anti-trust case in the early 80's
to break up "ma-bell", because they were a monopoly, and some 30 years later, they have just about put themselves back together again.

I surely have a bad feeling about this..
I am a TMo user and been there with them since the day i came to US(Almost 8+ years).
Even though I can only use Streak with EDGE speed with TMo, I am okay with it.
But once the network merge is complete, would that mean that with TMo simcard in Streak, I now will have 3G speed?
I wonder!

this is actually a good thing. att said this pushes their network 5 years in development, and they will have 60mbit 4g lte coverage to 95% of americans. users on both networks will have access to all 3g gsm bands. and with the new capacity load capabilities, att can lower their prices to compete more with verizon. i actually do see verizon buying sprint too.
i was thinking of was actually thinking of selling my streak and buying a samsung infuse 4g. its a faster phone with an almost as large but higher quality screen and better cameras and is a "4g" phone but its hspa+ not lte and with this announcement, im going to wait till later this year when the lte phones come out.

For me it's a GOOD THING!
I'm 99% about THE PHONES. If this merger opens up the TMOus 3G/4G bands to ATT users, then the more progressive/higher end TMO european phones would become available here sooner. That's a great thing imo.

hmm
i think people need to look at this from a business point of view . If At&T does end up buying Tmobile this will be bad for the customer, because that is one less company At&T has to fight a price war with and being that att and Tmobile are the only GSM networks out there that makes them the only player in the GSM arena .
everyone needs to remember the more options out there the better that will keep each company in check and fight for every customer out there with better prices and plans .
some will say will it will make my signal better and make the network faster and make things happen alot faster as far as 4g becoming the stranded thing . i for one dont care about speed if i am going to end up paying like crazy for KB's of data att is starting to nickel and dime the customer and this is coming from an att customer

p51d007 said:
That's a shame....Springfield Missouri had a HUGE T-Mobile customer support center open up a couple years ago. Must be 2-300 people working there.
You can bet the death star will can that, and off shore it somewhere else.
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AT&T has several call centers around the bay area so I doubt they will go over seas. It would be unfortunate for the Springfield employees to lose their jobs so hopefully AT&T will just bring them on board. There is no way they could handle that many additional accounts without adding employees.
That said, being a call center person myself job stability is never guaranteed when dealing with tech products. It comes with the territory.

kable said:
I'm tired of having to get unlocked AT&T phones due to T-Mobiles crap phone selections.
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Srsly?
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less competition is bad for everyone. $$$

Found a photo of the borg sphere last night, and photoshopped the rest.
Kind of how I feel about the whole thing.
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Found a photo of the borg sphere last night, and photoshopped the rest.
Kind of how I feel about the whole thing.
lol... Super bump.
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VZW LTE vs. Sprint WiMAX

So my girlfriend picked up a Thunderbolt, and I have to admit I'm pretty jealous of the 4G speeds and coverage she's getting. In our building, I don't get any Sprint signal at all in the basement (I always roam on VZW), meanwhile she's speed-testing at 18mbps. In fact pretty much everywhere we've gone in the area, she gets LTE coverage both inside and out, much unlike the EVO's pretty-much-outside-only WiMAX coverage...
I've found WiMAX to work pretty well if I'm outside or in my car, and I'm sitting perfectly still. Of course I can't leave it enabled unless I use my extended battery, or else the phone will be dead in short order.
I guess Sprint's 9 months of being the only provider with "real" 4G phones was nice while it lasted, but VZW is really kicking ass now when it comes to 4G speed and coverage, to the point where I'd say they're pretty much the only player in town.

So u saying ur gonna switch to the thunderbolt
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BlueScreenOfTOM said:
So my girlfriend picked up a Thunderbolt, and I have to admit I'm pretty jealous of the 4G speeds and coverage she's getting. In our building, I don't get any Sprint signal at all in the basement (I always roam on VZW), meanwhile she's speed-testing at 18mbps. In fact pretty much everywhere we've gone in the area, she gets LTE coverage both inside and out, much unlike the EVO's pretty-much-outside-only WiMAX coverage...
I've found WiMAX to work pretty well if I'm outside or in my car, and I'm sitting perfectly still. Of course I can't leave it enabled unless I use my extended battery, or else the phone will be dead in short order.
I guess Sprint's 9 months of being the only provider with "real" 4G phones was nice while it lasted, but VZW is really kicking ass now when it comes to 4G speed and coverage, to the point where I'd say they're pretty much the only player in town.
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Well, yeah, your lady is going to get blistering speeds because there might be 1000 people in your whole city with LTE right now. Verizon says it expects 5-12Mbps on "loaded cells." I just touched 10Mbs in Manhattan -- on a loaded net. Not saying WiMax is perfect; far from.
Here's the thing: it doesn't matter to me if you go to VZW -- in fact you're one less connected user on WiMax, so I'll be incrementally faster. If you're gonna go to Verizon, do so once you see what performance of both the net and the device is going to be -- in real world, saturated network situations.

Realistically even when the network gets loaded itll still be faster than wimax. Just like with twice the users the 3G is better also. It just is what it is.

Im not willing to pay verizons prices...thats all it comes down to for me

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Im not willing to pay verizons prices...thats all it comes down to for me
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Same thing here. I am ok living with sprints lesser service for the price difference.

The frequencies Verizon has for LTE are fundamentally better than what Clear/Sprint are using for WiMax, at least in terms of building penetration. The higher frequencies do have some advantages, but to me they're *completely* negated by the fact that I go from an "Excellent" 4G signal in the parking lot at work to alternating between "Poor" and "No signal" as soon as I walk in the building. VZW could put Wimax on their frequencies, or Sprint could put LTE on their frequencies, and either way, VZW would win. If Sprint deploys LTE on the Nextel frequencies, we'll have a much more even race.
That said, I like what I pay for Sprint and (especially with the AT&TMobile thing) I don't want to see Sprint fail. I'm sticking with them for now. But 4G on Sprint has been very, very disappointing. There is a point in time -- yet to be determined for me -- when I'll suck it up and pay VZW's prices if Sprint can't improve the 4G network in a major way.

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Realistically even when the network gets loaded itll still be faster than wimax. Just like with twice the users the 3G is better also. It just is what it is.
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This isn't necessarily true.
As a standard, WiMax has potential for higher speeds than LTE. Significantly higher -- like 30% higher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards
The question is, implementation, as always. Of course, it may be a moot point, as Sprint may cut bait from Clear (because of their mismanagement) and go with their LTE plans with LightSquared in tow.
My point remains, leaving Sprint now, based on VZW's LTE speeds NOW vs what they may be when fully-loaded might be a grass-greener-on-the-other-side move. And you know how that usually ends up...

My house is small and my work has thin walls, I get awesome 4g speed pretty much all the time. I guess if where your at you don't have the same results switch. You'll probably be happier.

TonyArmstrong said:
This isn't necessarily true.
As a standard, WiMax has potential for higher speeds than LTE. Significantly higher -- like 30% higher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards
The question is, implementation, as always. Of course, it may be a moot point, as Sprint may cut bait from Clear (because of their mismanagement) and go with their LTE plans with LightSquared in tow.
My point remains, leaving Sprint now, based on VZW's LTE speeds NOW vs what they may be when fully-loaded might be a grass-greener-on-the-other-side move. And you know how that usually ends up...
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Yea and 10 times out of 10 we will NEVER see wimax speeds that high.. not if Clear is responsible for deploying it. And honestly the grass is greener not only interms of 4G speeds, but coverage and 3G speeds as well. In terms of VZW vs Sprint you pretty much get what you pay for. In terms of data I rarely even use the evo anymore. Turning on my wimax is pointless honestly unless im close to a tower. Even if VZW's speeds get chopped in half, which I doubt, itll still be faster than wimax here. The biggest factor is if you look at how many towers VZW has here as compared to Sprint, it makes sense as to why you can get LTE pretty much everywhere you go in in Metro Atlanta as compared to Wimax.. where once you leave downtown you're not really guaranteed to get it at all.

still love Sprint...
Long time Sprint here my self..
But 89.99 + 20% discount for unlimited 4G with Verizon was only $10 more than what i was paying with Sprint..
I love Sprint to death, but until they use their 800MHz spectrum for 4G then i'll be staying with Verizon..
I mean look at these insane speeds...
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asenduk said:
Long time Sprint here my self..
Verizon was only $10 more than what i was paying with Sprint..
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I just made this exact post in another thread lol. VZW is NOT that much more than Sprint anymore. Especially since Sprint made the $10 premium data mandatory for all smart phones. And im telling you now, if VZW does decide to make that promo that they ran for the any mobile for the same price, its gonna get ugly.

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Dont see how its trolling when its the truth. *shrug*

VZW is not much more for an individual user, but with a family plan its a lot more. Total for my 4 smartphones was 60 more a month. Not worth it, especially getting 10Mbps down everywhere I go. 15 vs 10 is just not a big deal to me.

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VZW is not much more for an individual user, but with a family plan its a lot more. Total for my 4 smartphones was 60 more a month. Not worth it, especially getting 10Mbps down everywhere I go. 15 vs 10 is just not a big deal to me.
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my plan three evo's after tax and 22% discount is 167, verizon for two phones not three after tax and discount was 189!
But like it was said if vzw did anytime any mobile. I might consider it. but then again 90% of people we know are on verizon so maybe it doesn matter.

these are the same customers that complained about the $10/fee
they aint going to pay $10-20 more ...
i agree sprint wimax signal is a joke.. i am in DFW (one of the major oginal wimax cities).. and it sucks!... so much so that I use a ROM that does not even have wimax support!.
i sure hope that sprint has real plans to fix this asap with wimax...not lte.

OP here. I switched from VZW to Sprint for the EVO, so I knew what I was coming from. When we got WiMAX here (DC/Baltimore area) it was at first very spotty, and it's still moderately spotty. I suppose I was expecting to see the same from VZW's LTE offerings, at least for the next year or so, but I was surprised to see how... good it is. I'm sure once the network gets a little more saturated the speeds won't be as good, but still, having 10-12mbps everywhere on VZW is quite different from having 3G in most places and 4G in a few select places like I'm used to now with Sprint.
I'm not saying I'm going to switch back to VZW... I hated the way they nickel-and-dimed everything... I like Sprint as a company much better. I just hope maybe they'll at least increase the back-end WiMAX speeds a little so they can be a bit more competitive with VZW LTE at least with speeds (I know the penetration isn't going to get much better...)

I will never go back to verizon for any reason. I don't really download that much on my phone that I can't do when I have wifi. Since having 4g on pretty much kills the battery, I leave it off most of the time. I love the evo, and if sprint improves things then it's even better.

same here, i have had them both, but sprint has been the best company for me. and where i work i roam the WHOLE time . but when the end of the month comes and that bill is in front of me i remember why im here!! o and of course the EVO !!! FTW

Are there any NON throttled 4g data plans out there?

Well I got my brand-new Samsung galaxy S3 (off contract) and I’ve been playing around the last couple of weeks streaming video and whatnot and to my surprise I get the dreaded text message from AT&T stating that I just got throttled. This is the first-time and I am PISSED!! I am SURE this has been covered before but it’s the first time for me. I had no idea exactly how much they throttled you by until now. I mean you can’t do anything once they tightened the noose. I am grandfathered in with an unlimited LTE plan also which really makes it that much more irritating. Well I guess I need to download that app that finds free hotspots. I am in the San Antonio Texas area and we have good mobile data coverage down here so I have to wonder if there are any providers offering a truly unlimited non-throttled or less throttled 4g (of some kind) data plan. I know that Sprint is just getting their LTE service fired up and they are offering an unlimited plan in my area and technically I am not under contract right now which I made abundantly clear to the AT&T employee that I was speaking with (ranting to) like she cared. Does Sprint pull the same crap that AT&T does? Do I have any options? Thanks in advance.

Sprint just deployed their LTE recently and I've seen data speeds around 30+ MB/s reported by users in Texas
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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I'm a moron. Nm.

When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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erichj said:
We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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LTE? How are speeds?

s1mpd1ddy said:
When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.

bud951 said:
I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Lucky. Tmo goes to edge which is Max .08mbps
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erichj said:
We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB

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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Good god, may I ask what you use all that data doing? I'm getting 10mbs on sprint.
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To answer you question there are no gimmicks with Sprint when it comes to unlimited data. There plans really are unlimited and I live in Atlanta where my 4gLTE just activated and I am very pleased with the speeds. I'm loving Sprint right now.
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Since the 5th, I've switched to Sprint. Coverage blows in stl, but blown past my 2gb cap I had with att and living that so far. Some coverage and I will be set!
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If I had lte on sprint I'd be all over it. But 3g by me is horrible and no service whatsoever at my house really kills it. So I recently switched to att where my coverage is awesome and my 3g is easily 8x faster on average. If lte on sprint ever comes to my area I will certainly reconsider my choice. Until then ill live with my 5gb att cap.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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LTE? How are speeds?
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I live in Jefferson City, MO and we aren't slated for LTE until later this year.
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The only reason Sprint has been able to offer truely unlimited plans is because the speeds were just too slow to generate any meaningful volume. With LTE now, they will be in the same position (likely worse equipped) once volume increases across the network. Enjoy it while it lasts. I certainly wouldn't be jumping ship having unlimited (5g) with ATT in hand to have fully unlimited data for a year or so.

Sprint doesn't cut you off or anything when it comes to data usage (unless you're roaming.) Go to 500 gb a month if you'd like.

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5. something gbs........ throttled
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds

Acapella75 said:
Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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as it should be... its 4g

I don't know why people are so up in arms about this stuff. Most carriers are going to tiered data.... it's the way it is and nothing's changing that. It's already been in the rumor mill based on some things done/said by sprint that they too, will be going to throttled/tiered methods to controlling data. I don't know about you guys, but I know that ever since tethering became very popular, TONS of people have been trying to use their mobile data connections as primary internet sources. While it's all fine and dandy that you feel that you should use your data how you want, the networks (and when I say networks, i mean ALL of them) are not yet ready to support everybody's daily habits and still be strong enough to support the current flow of telephone calls or data calls.
When that day comes, by all means, have the carriers put out unlimited data plans and have your telephone be your primary internet connection, but until that day when the networks are strong enough to support it, I still want to be able to make phone calls if need be, especially in an emergency.
By having service, it doesn't give anybody the right to unlimited data, or if they do have it, to use it however they wish. There are still terms and conditions with each company. I know it's not something that everybody likes, but it's the way life is. I am personally pretty glad that the carriers are approaching it this way, because in my area, I see first hand how tethering on smart phones can easily cripple networks at this current time.
I'll give you all an example. I work in a town of 45,000 people, with a "metropolitan" style town surrounding with a grand total of like 80,000 people. That's not a whole lot, which means there's not a ****load of towers here to support our mobile data/calling habits. The thing is, we're in Wisconsin, and there's a lot of places in Wisconsin that you can now get 3G service but can't even get Satellite internet service more than 700kbps. 3G service in those areas average 1-2 megs of service. HSPA/HSPA+ service in some of those areas range from 3-9megs of service. With a cost of $30-80 for sat. service, it's obvious what people would rather use for their internet. If even a 3rd of those 80,000 people started using their phones as primary internet connections, our network would quickly become stressed.
It's becoming more and more obvious to me every day too, that people are wanting to use their phone as a primary internet connection because they can't get land line service or want to save money on a more frequent basis. At least once or twice a day I get a customer coming in and asking us about our mobile internet service because they want to get rid of their land lines to save money, consolidate bills, or can't get land lines at home.
With the rate of how many people are now getting their hands on phones that are capable of tethering, that could very quickly change the work load of the towers on ANY network, be it sprint, at&t, tmo, verizon etc etc.... and it's not going to be for the better.... for now.
I guess the moral of the story is, as a person who still utilizes land line services as his primary source of internet (especially for streaming content/downloading content), I would love to have the cell phone towers I utilize still be able to support my telephone calls, instead of straining to support everybody's netflix addictions. Until the networks are built to support that kind of stuff, I can't say I disapprove of the way things are going on the carriers. Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to service, and that being said, is what gives freedom of choice when it comes to your carrier choice. Just keep in mind that Sprint is looking more and more likely to follow suit with the tiered/throttled plans... seeing as they've already done it (according to articles, don't know if it's actually implemented) on their hotspot devices. If it's true, and has happened, It's not long till they do it to their smartphones, since every single one is ALSO a hotspot device.
*rant over*
P.S. This post is not meant to directly flame, offend, or belittle anyone for their habits. Everybody is different and has their own opinions, so keep in mind that this is MY opinion and the way I feel. Please keep your responses to it civil, because if they turn childish and mean hearted, i'll make sure the mods know and maybe close it because there's no need for that.

Well guys, after 10 years I switch to Tmo

After 10 years on ATT and 5 years on XDA ATT I made the jump to TMobile :crying:. With there official press release on Bootloaders and Samsung intent to take over more corporate land, I just don't see a future mod base with ATT. But I hope you guys don't get stuck with a safestrap only like the Droid X.
See you guys on the other side

A lot of us, like myself are staying with att but using a T Mo phone instead. I can understand leaving though. I would to if they had better coverage.

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A lot of us, like myself are staying with att but using a T Mo phone instead. I can understand leaving though. I would to if they had better coverage.
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I would be on Tmobile in a heartbeat but my work has a company plan with ATT and they pay for my service. So I'm kinda stuck with them. That doesn't prevent me from getting a Tmobile Note 3 though!

The development for the S4 is now pathetic. It only benefits those on May 2013 firmware (MDL). If the AT&T Note 3 is like the S4, the development will suck. We got lucky the first 3 months with the S4, then it just went down hill. There is still no custom recovery yet for the latest ATT update.
I'm tempted by T-Mobile too, trust me. But their higher bands mean worse coverage, especially indoors. AWS requires a lot of cell sites for proper performance. When I had T-Mobile, having 1 bar of 4G was a good day, it was then EDGE city. They are the only carrier without any lower spectrum.
Hopefully they don't suck by you.

My dad used T-Mobile for the last 2-3 years and recently switched over to AT&T...
On T-Mobile he was getting 2g, 3g sometimes, and half the time no service at all.
This is why I didn't make the switch, ****ty coverage, oh and the reason I didn't buy a T-Mobile note is because I would rather shell out $299 than over $800...

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The development for the S4 is now pathetic. It only benefits those on May 2013 firmware (MDL). If the AT&T Note 3 is like the S4, the development will suck. We got lucky the first 3 months with the S4, then it just went down hill. There is still no custom recovery yet for the latest ATT update.
I'm tempted by T-Mobile too, trust me. But their higher bands mean worse coverage, especially indoors. AWS requires a lot of cell sites for proper performance. When I had T-Mobile, having 1 bar of 4G was a good day, it was then EDGE city. They are the only carrier without any lower spectrum.
Hopefully they don't suck by you.
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I get what yur saying but by that logic development for us early adopters should be good. Once they get this f/w figured out just dont upgrade. Naturally theres a possibility we may be stuck for a bit but even MF3 got set up with safestrap which is great for what it is. Some would say it re-enforces the argument of "if you wanna google phone get a nexus."
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I get what yur saying but by that logic development for us early adopters should be good. Once they get this f/w figured out just dont upgrade. Naturally theres a possibility we may be stuck for a bit but even MF3 got set up with safestrap which is great for what it is. Some would say it re-enforces the argument of "if you wanna google phone get a nexus."
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See my response here and why I am switching to a T-Mo device..but the future for Carrier supplied devices is pretty bleak, we would forced to go to the developer edition route (aka full price) for any customization options..

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See my response here and why I am switching to a T-Mo device..but the future for Carrier supplied devices is pretty bleak, we would forced to go to the developer edition route (aka full price) for any customization options..
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I get what yur saying and do agree for the most part. My personal plan is to ride this out till tax time when if things havent changed and i have some throw around money cut my loss and get a device full price. I guess the ideologist in me doesnt wanna "jump ship" just yet haha yknow? Still wanna believe in our devs. Like i said though i do agree with yur thoughts on it.
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I tried to switch once about 5 months ago to T-Mobile. Service was absolute garbage.

ya i think it would be good to just get t mobile one and run on att or just get the full price developer one. i had tmobile for about a year, but much better signal with att .what is the full unlock developer model number? i seen some on ebay but wasnt sure on which one is right for usa ? thanks for any help on this .sorry not to take away from this thread

Don't blame you. I left the death star almost 18 months ago and wouldn't switch back for anything. Yeah, the ST sim I use, is on the at&t
tower, but it's CHEAPER by tons. Were I was paying 120+/month for unlimited voice "unlimited" data....I pay 50 bucks/month for the same
thing with ST. I was thinking of actually switching back to at&t's MVNO because of the N3's LTE (vs my current N1) but now that ST has
LTE, I'll just buy a t-mobile N3, and go that route.

I wouldn't switch carriers for a phone at all... T-Mobile has horrible service where I live and work. I'll rather keep paying $200+ for quality service rather than save and have to walk 5 blocks to get service.
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I wouldn't switch carriers for a phone at all... T-Mobile has horrible service where I live and work. I'll rather keep paying $200+ for quality service rather than save and have to walk 5 blocks to get service.
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I am very jealous of all of you guys who can leave AT&T and go to T-Mobile. I wish I could use T-Mobile, but when half my home town is covered in EDGE/GPRS I just can't use them. Knowing I'll never have their 4G at my house because of their frequencies don't reach that far doesn't exactly sit well either. Anyway, best of luck to you guys on T-Mobile. Enjoy your truly unlimited data.

@YellowGTO, sorry to hear that. I think that was a bit impulsive and there is no way Tmobile has better coverage then AT&T. The most I would be willing to do is buy the Tmobile N3. I did not even do that one. I got the AT&T Note 3 and we will see how my mileage goes.
I enjoy custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries too. I spent most of the time with the Note II with Touchwiz ROMs and loved it. Root is probably the most pressing for me but I can do without it for while. This phone is a beast, I did not think it could get any better but I guess it can.

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@YellowGTO, sorry to hear that. I think that was a bit impulsive and there is no way Tmobile has better coverage then AT&T. The most I would be willing to do is buy the Tmobile N3. I did not even do that one. I got the AT&T Note 3 and we will see how my mileage goes.
I enjoy custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries too. I spent most of the time with the Note II with Touchwiz ROMs and loved it. Root is probably the most pressing for me but I can do without it for while. This phone is a beast, I did not think it could get any better but I guess it can.
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You're right actually. I have all 3 right now. ATT, Tmo and Vzw (Sprints not even a contender). And while ATTs LTE service is indeed the best. Tmo has pretty much had at least cell service in the same area.. Verizon is and Tmobile are much closer in terms of performance. They actually seem to have the same LTE areas unlike ATT who has LTE everywhere. What Tmobile has going for it is the wifi calls, this is truly a life saver if you do business in any sort of convention centers.
Im still testing and mapping service areas with Signal tracker, so its not concrete yet. If you can manage with 3G+/4G Tmobile is the way to go on the east coast. The service is considerably cheaper, single is decent, and bootloaders unlocked.
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P.S. That WiFi calling gives me AMAZING battery. I will update with graphs at the end of the experiment.

T-Mobile sucks in my area. There's no way that I could switch back to them. Sure, it'd be cheaper. But I hate search for signals. They are better than Sprint, but I'm not a fan of spotty.

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You're right actually. I have all 3 right now. ATT, Tmo and Vzw (Sprints not even a contender). And while ATTs LTE service is indeed the best. Tmo has pretty much had at least cell service in the same area.. Verizon is and Tmobile are much closer in terms of performance. They actually seem to have the same LTE areas unlike ATT who has LTE everywhere. What Tmobile has going for it is the wifi calls, this is truly a life saver if you do business in any sort of convention centers.
Im still testing and mapping service areas with Signal tracker, so its not concrete yet. If you can manage with 3G+/4G Tmobile is the way to go on the east coast. The service is considerably cheaper, single is decent, and bootloaders unlocked.
P.S. That WiFi calling gives me AMAZING battery. I will update with graphs at the end of the experiment.
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Wow, it must be nice to have funds to blow:laugh:. I heard about wifi calling and I think that would be the next big thing. We have root now on the AT&T Note 3 so I have reason to venture else where in the near future. Let me know what you have uncovered during your research on this.

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T-Mobile sucks in my area. There's no way that I could switch back to them. Sure, it'd be cheaper. But I hate search for signals. They are better than Sprint, but I'm not a fan of spotty.
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Wow, it must be nice to have funds to blow:laugh:. I heard about wifi calling and I think that would be the next big thing. We have root now on the AT&T Note 3 so I have reason to venture else where in the near future. Let me know what you have uncovered during your research on this.
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Yeah with the 5 lines, I figured it would be worth a month or two to see if the move is worth it. 5 lines on ATT is about 360 and tmo is about 210. I figured it was worth the investigation. :laugh: