Database Users

My First impressions with XXLP2

For noobs.
AOSP lovers and TW haters, there is a ← button in your keyboard.
I already mentioned about previously leaked XXKPA before, so no point mentioning those points again, instead read it,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440011
• Better than KPA, more bugs are fixed. Still a Beta, of course. Progress is good.
• Phone calls were great. In call earpiece volume was great, as well as speaker, NR was there to be manually turn on/off.
• Now maybe I am wrong but I thing the Vibration intensity for call alerts was fainter than previous release, but if you check it under settings then it was very strong. Weird. Please give feedback on this.
• Same incoming call UI, call answer/reject buttons doesn't animate.
• Phone signal, 3G/H+, WiFi, BT everything worked fine.
• There was NO problem while switching networks to different mode, GSM, Auto etc. This ain't a pros.
• FM radio does work, worked before as well.
• 480x800 walls works well, LWP is definitely smoother than before, can't say if it's same smooth as GB!
• Lock screen ICS animation is still weird.
• Market worked on first try, downloading is working too. No problem here.
• Face unlock does work. OMG, what a time wasting gimmick is this thing.
• Swype is present. But I don't know if it's only me but the default Samsung KB was in QWERTZ format instead of QWERTY.
• GPS lock is fine.
• Same email app (which is poor imo, horrible background choice and you can't change it), damn. GMail app is same as well, no Multi touch support. Now I don't like it.
• 1080P videos (I tried with FLC) were horrible to watch, lagged all the way. I am sure they haven't done anything with it since last release.
• Camera in full res and VR at 1080p works fine usually.
• Same Missed call and SMS notification icon in LS.
• Touch keys does glow up this time.
• Call log entries does show a compact mode if you tap on a particular number. This wasn't present on KPA. A big relief for me.
• Haptic feedback works.
• Now the browser, all the options are there as before, with scrolling has gone much faster and smoother now, you can now scroll a long page with one or two slides now. It should be a big plus point for me and the users who uses Stock browser all time.
I think Sammy doesn't know that there is an 'Exit' word in dictionary
• Development option is present, very normal.
• Connection with PC worked at first go.
• The elastic scrolling all over the UI is a pleasing thing to play with, Hardware acceleration is at effect, a great job done by Samsung, already, still more than two months to go to keep their word.
• Battery life seems good. Lost only 3% in an overnight duration of 9 hours. GPS was on all time. However Standby time isn't a thing to consider battery backup IMO.
• There was a feature in the stock dialer, don't know what's it called actually, with which you just need to press the number keys and it would search for the contacts going by that digits you've entered, but that feature is missing. And it's a PITA for me who has to use the dialer all time to call him or her.
For exmaple: If you need to dial John, then just pressing 5646 in dialer would show that contact, as 5646 contains the word J, O, H & N. But that feature is lacking here and should be included back in Final release.
••• My Conclusion:
I am keeping it for a while and this definitely is a DAILY USE ROM.
Nuff said.
I'll add some more points and a short video with LP2 later. In the mean time screenshots added.
PS- A video is coming later, already uploaded but deleted from YouTube due to long length !
Regards.
PS- Please come and share your feedbacks with this please, I like to be a noob and definitely missed points.
TIA.
• A work through video:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

ithehappy said:
For noobs.
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Thanks for making another thread. Three threads with "XXLP2" on the first page of this forum wasn't enough, so I'm glad it's now four.

I have to ask! That ridicusly sticky scrolling in like the Facebook app, is that fixed? U said that it was fixed in browser but is it fixed in all apps?

The home button doesn't seem to work for me. is there some setting that needs to be enabled ?
Also none of the lockscreens work either. and there is no task manager as well..

oinkylicious said:
Thanks for making another thread. Three threads with "XXLP2" on the first page of this forum wasn't enough, so I'm glad it's now four.
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does any other thread has any crisp info as this?

bala_gamer said:
does any other thread has any crisp info as this?
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Agreed. I really appreciate these threads, its exactly what I want. I hate reading through tons of posts with no useful information.
These tell me exactly what I want, in an easy to read way.
Thanks ithehappy.

Hows battery life and can you set the clock alarm? i need it for work!

Thanks for the review. I know its still early days but any fcs, wakelocks problems so far? Hows stable is the network connection? Cheers
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ballist1x said:
Hows battery life and can you set the clock alarm? i need it for work!
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just flashed so nothing can be said about the battery life.
Alarm works fine. just tested it.

wifi direct is not workinf...

can this rom XXLP2 read USB OTG (flash disk)?

Finding battery life vastly improved compared to LP1
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Regarding videos, I tried MX Video Player on KPA and my 1080p videos worked perfectly fine. Smooth. Maybe you can try that.

scottishlad80 said:
Finding battery life vastly improved compared to LP1
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How's battery life compared to KL1 or any gb rom.?
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stock music player worked with most dpi values in LP1, hope it works in LP2 too

h_andria said:
can this rom XXLP2 read USB OTG (flash disk)?
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Someone who have flashed the rom plz answer. Even I want to know whether isb otg is supported or not
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Is Gtalk working fine ??

oinkylicious said:
Thanks for making another thread. Three threads with "XXLP2" on the first page of this forum wasn't enough, so I'm glad it's now four.
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You are welcome.
a1exander said:
I have to ask! That ridicusly sticky scrolling in like the Facebook app, is that fixed? U said that it was fixed in browser but is it fixed in all apps?
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Don't know if you are saying about the official Facebook for Android app, but here on my side scrolling through that app is buttery smooth
netcitizen said:
The home button doesn't seem to work for me. is there some setting that needs to be enabled ?
Also none of the lockscreens work either. and there is no task manager as well..
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Home button works abslutely fine here.
Yes, there is Task Manager, don't know what you're saying, but if you are holding down Home button then you'll see the task manager at the lower left bottom side.
Every type of lockscreens work, including Face Unlock.
Remoteconcern said:
Agreed. I really appreciate these threads, its exactly what I want. I hate reading through tons of posts with no useful information.
These tell me exactly what I want, in an easy to read way.
Thanks ithehappy.
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You're very welcome.
ballist1x said:
Hows battery life and can you set the clock alarm? i need it for work!
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Impossible to comment on battery life. I am not that much interested to test it atm anyway
Alarm Clock works just fine as some other users have also reported.
vassalle said:
Thanks for the review. I know its still early days but any fcs, wakelocks problems so far? Hows stable is the network connection? Cheers
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Network connection is damn stable, gotta say.
Not a single FC, once CWM got unresponsive and for the first time I've seen some pop up message saying 'Application is not responding, wait or exit', wish I could capture it on screenshot.
Logi_Ca1 said:
Regarding videos, I tried MX Video Player on KPA and my 1080p videos worked perfectly fine. Smooth. Maybe you can try that.
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Yep, MX works fine with S/W decoder option.
bala_gamer said:
stock music player worked with most dpi values in LP1, hope it works in LP2 too
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Thanks fyi. That's cool then.
darshanbangre said:
Is Gtalk working fine ??
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Absolutely.
I am uploading a video just to show the whole system wide experience, it's a bit long as I've no intention to show any specific problems or features, just a normal video to check how would you feel with TW+ICS. I should upload another video showing only the problems/bugs, as the added features are already been mentioned. Lets see when I get free time for that.
You guys using this firmware please come and post your feedback here, any problems or bugs or any cool thing you've noticed etc.
Thanks in advance.

there is a call answer-reject animation
once you hold your finger on answer it turns into a larger circle just like on the lockscreen. moving your finger out of that circle answers the call.

I installed LP2 sometime back and it did work fine till I enabled face unlock.
I was able to unlock couple of times and after that Face unlock wouldn't work and worse, the pattern code also didn't. Looked like the entire service crashed.
Back to stock but apart from that, stable release.

Tips and tricks

I thought I'd start this thread to consolidate all the info on the features of the Note 10.1 for those new to Android or tablets, those who are on the fence about buying this, or those who just haven't figured out all the cool features yet
Here's some off the top of my head:
Pinch the keyboard to get this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You can then move the floating and split keyboards by pushing and holding with 2 fingers.
Press and hold the settings key on the keyboard and select the T icon to switch to handwriting recognition mode.
In the keyboard settings, select "continuous input" for Swype-like functionality.
Feel free to add anything else you might find useful!
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Any clue how I could force the keyboard to appear ?
Background of my question is that "Logmein" desktop -version works nicely in stock browser, chrome and opera but I can' t call up he keyboard once I want to type on the remote pc .......

Just found this out: the screen turns on when you pull the pen out.
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Thanks
freedomispopular said:
I thought I'd start this thread to consolidate all the info on the features of the Note 10.1 for those new to Android or tablets, those who are on the fence about buying this, or those who just haven't figured out all the cool features yet
Here's some off the top of my head:
Pinch the keyboard to get this:
You can then move the floating and split keyboards by pushing and holding with 2 fingers.
Press and hold the settings key on the keyboard and select the T icon to switch to handwriting recognition mode.
In the keyboard settings, select "continuous input" for Swype-like functionality.
Feel free to add anything else you might find useful!
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 2
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Had no idea of the swipe style option available on the keyboard...

Here's a video of tips and tricks I've just whipped up. -> http://youtu.be/tC7z5PCdGLE
This is what I've discovered so far: smart stay, motion gestures, keyboard layouts (displayed by OP), handwriting input, nav keys extra functions, S Pen button, mini apps, screenshot key alternate uses and a demonstration of power, four apps running at the same time all of them shown on the screen at once!

Seems the more I learn about this tablet the more I like it. I had removed all of the Sammyware, but now I've out a few things back. Great thread.

Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
BTW: stil no one has a clue how to force the keyboard to pop up in browser ?

troed said:
Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
BTW: stil no one has a clue how to force the keyboard to pop up in browser ?
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I am also wondering if it's possible to do this with the keyboard, if you find something, please keep us updated! Thanks

For a keyboard to pop up it needs to have an input field. it will be useless if you pop it up without anything listening to the keyboard.
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FPtje said:
For a keyboard to pop up it needs to have an input field. it will be useless if you pop it up without anything listening to the keyboard.
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Well I have this situation where I need to press F12 to change to another page, but no input field in the page by itself. I tried clicking on the address bar to open the keyboard, but since the focus is not at the right place, it's not working. So I have a situation where it is NOT useless.
I don't know what troed wants to accomplish though.

troed said:
Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
BTW: stil no one has a clue how to force the keyboard to pop up in browser ?
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Didn't find where you can shut it off for the whole day. Info, please?

16:10 ratio movie will take up the entire screen in the stock video player - it'll hide the controlls and display edge to,edge.

toenail_flicker said:
Didn't find where you can shut it off for the whole day. Info, please?
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I'm curious as well. I hate lock screens, they don't seem to have any use to me, especially on a tablet. This thing can't turn on in my pocket, I don't wear clown pants(assuming clown pants have giant clown pockets). I just installed the "No Lock" app which does the trick.

toenail_flicker said:
Didn't find where you can shut it off for the whole day. Info, please?
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effluent said:
I'm curious as well. I hate lock screens, they don't seem to have any use to me, especially on a tablet. This thing can't turn on in my pocket, I don't wear clown pants(assuming clown pants have giant clown pockets). I just installed the "No Lock" app which does the trick.
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Settings > Security > Screen security
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troed said:
Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
BTW: stil no one has a clue how to force the keyboard to pop up in browser ?
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Thank you! for thast nfo

freedomispopular said:
Settings > Security > Screen security
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Thanks. More info, please. Already looked there. Maybe my contacts are dirty.

Anyone know if there is any way to go immediately to Google bookmarks in the stock browser instead of local?

toenail_flicker said:
Thanks. More info, please. Already looked there. Maybe my contacts are dirty.
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"None" should be the very last option in the screen lock page.

Nice. Thanks. Yup, seems I need wipers for my contacts.

Here we go in German settings (see attachment)
Why I need the keyboard to be opened even if there is no "call it to screen" input field:
I use "logmein" now for a couple of years for only one reason: to check my patients data base in my clinic.
Once I'm logged in and the remote screen appears I can click the icons to start the program but once I want to type a name ton the remote PC he keyboard does not appear.
Of course there would be other solutions, but I tried Splashtop Remote and other similar apps which do not work since my provider protects my clinic from outside intrusion by a firewall and even after my provider opened the ports necessary to run Splashtop Remote it does not work. After testing a lot of apps in the last two years with my SGSII/III and Note LOGMEIN is the only procedure that works. Of course I could buy the Android app Logmein ignition but look at the rating of this app, the prize and comments that it works very poor if at all. And why should I buy an app when my magnificent Note10.1 can do the same with it's browser ?IF I COULD FORCE THE KEYBOARD TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN TO TYPE ON MY REMOTE PC !!!!!!!!

The "Everything I Wish I Could Change About S-Note" Thread...

First of all, what is up with that stupid pan box that covers half your writing area if you are in split screen? I mean seriously how did that crap make it out the front door? Instead how about something brand new like a "scroll bar" that takes up no room at all? I know its crazy but the fact word processors and browsers have used them for years might have tipped someone off that they actually work?
So instead of the proven and unobtrusive scroll bar we get a HUGE pan box right in the middle of everything? Tragic stupidity.
Also, even when I have the page set to pen only input the page keeps zooming in and out everytime I rest my palm on the screen to write. Again, why Samsung why? Do you focus test anything before you release it? With the Note you have now had a year to get this app right and it is still so incredibly broken? Fire everyone and hire some developers who have a clue about usability.
Also, would it KILL you to give me an option for a white piece of lined paper to write on instead of that weird brown color? No we get no white lined paper by we do get about 10 lined options that are nothing like anything I have ever seen in the real world. I mean what IS some of that stuff?
How about letting us design our own templates and choose our own input boxes? How about letting me use a picture from my gallery as a background?
Choices Samsung. Users want choices and you give us none.
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They probably pulled it cause of all the issues it caused, I bet there will be another update to fix things
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davidrules7778 said:
They probably pulled it cause of all the issues it caused, I bet there will be another update to fix things
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One can only hope. But I am coming from the HTC View where they made many insanely stupid choices with their notes app that never got fixed so I am somewhat jaded at this point.
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Contact Samsung via the Samsung mobile facebook page. They actually listened to me in the past.

mitchellvii said:
So instead of the proven and unobtrusive scroll bar we get a HUGE pan box right in the middle of everything? Tragic stupidity.
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Agreed.
Also, even when I have the page set to pen only input the page keeps zooming in and out everytime I rest my palm on the screen to write.
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I agree this is also annoying. What I found helps is that I set the option to see the crosshairs on the screen when the pen is close, so I know when palm rejection will kick in. Remember, palm rejection only kicks in when the pen is close to the screen, even in pen-only mode (which I agree defeats the purpose of that mode altogether).
Also, would it KILL you to give me an option for a white piece of lined paper to write on instead of that weird brown color?
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I agree with this as well, I was very confused at the lack of options. I can't even set it to legal size.
One thing that you didn't mention that drives me crazy, is the inability to change the name/title of the note while you are in it. You can see the name in the upper left, but you can't long press on it (or click it) to edit. That minor change would be VERY welcome to me.

The "LectureNotes" app is much better than the s-notes app. It works great. It does not have handwriting recognition, but I don't find it that useful in s-notes. What I would like is to OCR the whole thing once I was done taking notes. Anyway, there's a free trial version of LectureNotes available. Give it a try in the Play Store. You can adjust paper color, etc, etc.

mitchellvii said:
First of all, what is up with that stupid pan box that covers half your writing area if you are in split screen?
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Unless you're panning, why do you need to be in overview mode? You can stay in writing mode and just move the work area around if you need to by pressing two fingers on it. Or am I missing something?

Nakel said:
The "LectureNotes" app is much better than the s-notes app. It works great. It does not have handwriting recognition, but I don't find it that useful in s-notes. What I would like is to OCR the whole thing once I was done taking notes. Anyway, there's a free trial version of LectureNotes available. Give it a try in the Play Store. You can adjust paper color, etc, etc.
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Love LN, and if you need vector graphics there's always Quill, though I've heard others are closing fast. I use 7notes with mazec for the HWR.

I'm kind of using what you guys say is broken as a way of exploring what the Note can (and can't) do. You can basically set any background you want on a note you're creating with seperate designs for the cover and pages within. To get white lined paper, all I did was scan a piece at 600DPI and save it as a JPEG. In settings on the S-Note home page there's an "import" button. I imported the JPEG and presto, lined white paper. It's a pretty cool feature for company letter head, watermarks, and other stuff you might want to use. Granted we should be able to create our own templates but it's a work-around for the time being.
Here's a link to the JPEG on Dropbox if you want to play with it yourselves. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73155531/Scan_Pic0002.jpg

OK as long as we are in full piss and moan mode here, how about if you are using the keyboard and you minimize it. You can't open it again without clicking back to the pen icon and then the keyboard icon again. If you click the keyboard icon when you are already in typing mode it shows you formatting options but the keyboard doesn't reappear.
I would really rather stay with the snotes app if possible than using LectureNotes because it has more functions and i can type.
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mitchellvii said:
OK as long as we are in full piss and moan mode here
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The stuff you're pointing out is absolutely stuff that's helpful. This is my fourth Samsung device so I've gotten pretty good at thinking like a Korean s/w developer. In a lot of cases there's a way of doing what you want you just have to go through the gymnastics to figure out the Korean interpretation.
if you are using the keyboard and you minimize it. You can't open it again without clicking back to the pen icon and then the keyboard icon again. If you click the keyboard icon when you are already in typing mode it shows you formatting options but the keyboard doesn't reappear.
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OK, so I'm in text mode and minimize the keyboard. To get it back I just have to touch the screen anywhere and it reappears. If go to drawing mode, make some squiggles with the pen, and then click the keyboard icon it comes up by itself. EXCEPT: If I've got the pen-only icon active.
After a few months you'll be thinking like a Korean s/w developer too.

your relationship with this tablet is a freaking drama, lol.

I still have the old 0.1 version of S Note in Titanium backup but it does not run (perhaps I would have to delete the write protected version in /system/app first.

BarryH_GEG said:
Te he.
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That made me look closer.
In full screen mode not window you can change the background via the drop down menu. When you have the change background window open there is a mountain icon in the top right corner which will open gallery and allow you to set your own background.
I was going to show an example but for some reason when I select Choose File in ther reply software nothing happens it just highlights and the Note 10.1 beeps and that is all.

Ah OK I see. My problem was I had the "pen only" button depressed and thats why the keyboard would not pop up when I touched the screen.
I still cannot figure out what good purpose that panning box serves since we can pan with two fingers???
Lol on the Koreans. Is there a Joe's American Tablet Company somewhere?
Now if someone could just make my handwriting not suck I'd be set.
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madsquabbles said:
your relationship with this tablet is a freaking drama, lol.
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Who, me or mitchellvii? I'm having a blast figuring out what it can and can't do. The level of detail Samsung's applied to s/w is freaking amazing. And, as usual, it’s cryptic and explained nowhere. It’s fun deciphering Samsung's cryptic code to find all the features. It's kind of like putting together a 1K piece all-white puzzle.
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donec said:
When you have the change background window open there is a mountain icon in the top right corner which will open gallery and allow you to set your own background.
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The mountain icon is for things to stick in a note, not set the background. The maps one is really cool. You can use it just like Google maps but within S-Note for cropping and editing.

mitchellvii said:
First of all, what is up with that stupid pan box that covers half your writing area if you are in split screen? I mean seriously how did that crap make it out the front door? Instead how about something brand new like a "scroll bar" that takes up no room at all? I know its crazy but the fact word processors and browsers have used them for years might have tipped someone off that they actually work?
So instead of the proven and unobtrusive scroll bar we get a HUGE pan box right in the middle of everything? Tragic stupidity.
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I fear the scroll bar is NOT coming back. Apple has a patent for transparent disappearing vertical and horizontal scroll bars.
Yea, I know it sounds stupid to allow patent for such issues. It got approved last month.
http://www.google.com/patents/US8223134

hot_spare said:
I fear the scroll bar is NOT coming back. Apple has a patent for transparent disappearing vertical and horizontal scroll bars.
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They also applied for a stylus patent. Better get your Note's while you can boys.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
http://mashable.com/2012/05/24/apple-stylus/

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm kind of using what you guys say is broken as a way of exploring what the Note can (and can't) do. You can basically set any background you want on a note you're creating with seperate designs for the cover and pages within. To get white lined paper, all I did was scan a piece at 600DPI and save it as a JPEG. In settings on the S-Note home page there's an "import" button. I imported the JPEG and presto, lined white paper. It's a pretty cool feature for company letter head, watermarks, and other stuff you might want to use. Granted we should be able to create our own templates but it's a work-around for the time being.
Here's a link to the JPEG on Dropbox if you want to play with it yourselves. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73155531/Scan_Pic0002.jpg
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Thanks for this. Made it a lot easier than what I was gonna do, make one in Photoshop and import. Thanks again!

donec said:
That made me look closer.
In full screen mode not window you can change the background via the drop down menu. When you have the change background window open there is a mountain icon in the top right corner which will open gallery and allow you to set your own background.
I was going to show an example but for some reason when I select Choose File in ther reply software nothing happens it just highlights and the Note 10.1 beeps and that is all.
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Hey man that is Fantastic! Lol it never occcured to me to click the little mountain button to get my own background image. Now I can write on a photo of my hot girlfriend
Lol but seriously, I have to find some nice white line paper backgrounds to try out.
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S-Note Issues in 4.1.X JB

After the recent update from ICS to JB, many have noticed new S-Note problems.
Problems:
1.) Palm Detection Fail
2.) Missing Full Screen Function
This thread is to consolidate everything together. And bring awareness and hopefully find a fix or workaround to these issues.

Darkman posted the old version of S-Note, but so far there no one has confirmed that they work on JB.
Darkman said:
In this ZIP all SNotes that i have....
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S Note v0.1 - build 5r8988V03
S Note v0.5 - build r10645FV03
S Note v5r10645FV03
S Note v5r12434FV03
S Note v5r17214FV03
v0.1 & v0.5 i think is from 4.0.4
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klau1 said:
Darkman posted the old version of S-Note, but so far there no one has confirmed that they work on JB.
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S Note's not broken in JB, it's different and OP isn't pleased with some of the changes Samsung made. This is what he posted in another thread...
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I've been using the updated version of S Note in JB since November and have been fine with it. I guess others have been too since this is the first time someone's called the new features "issues." And you can't just apply a different S Note APK because there are supporting files that it needs and it will FC when you try to open it. I don't know what to tell you OP, it is what it is.

Full screen is one thing, but how can you stand the palm detection issue?
If you rest your hand on the screen first before your s-pen gets within proximity, it will unintentionally zoom.
Before, There was no problem with palm touching the screen first.
You are fine with this?

klau1 said:
If you rest your hand on the screen first before your s-pen gets within proximity, it will unintentionally zoom.
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Samsung added scroll bars at the bottom and right of an active S Note because people were unhappy with the scrolling box in earlier versions. The scroll bars are sensitive to non-pen input even when palm rejection is active. I'm guessing this is to make it easier to navigate around an S Note. They also added multi-point non-pen input so that even when the palm rejection is active, if you touch the display in two places at once (EG: with two fingers), it will allow zooming. So since I've known this I avoid touching the scroll bar areas and make sure that my palm touches the display solidly so it's not mistaken for "two fingers." Here's a quick video showing what I'm talking about.
And here's something that might help. In the newer version of S Note that added a new template, "landscape note." At 100% it uses the all of the Note's display and therefore doesn't need to display scroll bars. So you get some of the real estate that you lost with the elimination of full screen mode back as well as eliminating the scroll bars which are sensitive to input even with palm rejection on.
And to answer your question, I am fine with it because I hated the scroll box and there are times when I do navigate with my fingers (scroll bars, two finger zoom) while I'm primarily using the pen.

Trust me, it's not the scroll bars that is causing the scrolling hahaha.
BTW, your video is private.
If that was the issue, then people who are complaining would be retarded.
You can put your palm right in the middle of the page, FAR away from any scroll bars on the side, and STILL it will zoom wildly.
Yes, even in the landscape template.
Maybe your palm is different than mine and many others. Because when I'm holding the S-PEN, the moment my side palm hits the screen, the Note zooms CRAZILY!!! All over the place.

klau1 said:
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Oops. Sorry. You can see in the video that S Note only responds to non-pen touch when I make contact with the display with more than two points.

I see in your video your palm movement indeed does not induce the same Zooming that I have experienced.
I suspect this is because your palm is only contacting the screen at one point.
The way you have learnt to hold your pen, only the back of your palm (near the wrists) rests on the screen.
For many of us, the whole side blade of our palm rests on the screen, therefore presents many more Points of Contact resulting in misinterpreted Zoom behavior.

Mmmh! You could clearly see the issue at ~16 seconds with the zoom (top right) starting to do its crazy thing... nice bit of palm re-adjusting in an attempt to hide it :laugh:
Whilst the scroll bar is a good addition, they borked palm rejection! They could of integrated the pen button for zooming, scrolling, pen only and full screen.

I also have a bug which must be solved quickly!
When I use form recognition for drawing schema, SNote often deletes previous forms and I can't use the revert feature.
Any other similar experience?

Im really not sure how people are complaining about the new S Note. The old one had a fair number of bugs and limitations. Great new features I noticed are:
- Switch between eraser and pen with pen button -love this
- PDF import actually works and doesn't crash S Note
- Pam rejection mode is gone but new mode does allow for scrolling and zooming which I like.
- New scrollbar is useful
- You can now scroll tops of pages to below the top toolbar. Not being able to do that before was annoying. Eliminates need to hide the toolbar.
- Air view with hovering pen makes for easy scrolling.
- Air view also brings up help tips when hovered over anything in S Note. It also let you expand a folder in the file select screen and you can go right to a note in that file.
Probably even more I may have missed. I think losing the full screen is definitely a fair trade off, especially as several people have mentioned, it's not even as useful anymore. I do agree it would be nice to still have as an option so that you can have a full pad of paper on your screen. But it is definitely not a dealbreaker. With all the new features and bug fixes I think you'd be nuts to downgrade to an older S Note just for that.
And the palm detection??? It's always behaved that way... get used to putting the pen close to the screen before your hand and you won't have problems. It was that way in ICS and it's not hard to get used to. Again having the total palm rejection mode as a second option would be preffered but certainly not a dealbreaker. The new mode also has advantages.
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I can guarantee you that Palm Detection did NOT function in the same way before.
In fact, in 4.0.4, S-Note would not even Zoom unless touch access was enabled.
So there was no chance of miss detection.
All the other features you list are great, but besides the point.
Just because you fed your kid a nice meal of Kraft Dinner does not excuse you from murdering it after.

klau1 said:
Maybe your palm is different than mine and many others. Because when I'm holding the S-PEN, the moment my side palm hits the screen, the Note zooms CRAZILY!!! All over the place.
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I have noticed that if you lift the pen while writing then either the screen zooms or it starts making marks on the page. This is why I have switched to Write app for the notes app with it set to ignore all touch input (still registers the pen touch) and works great. Just wish I could change page background.
Now I really use the pen much more and like it more also.

Changes in Stock 4.4 [Summarized] [My Observations Added on Page 17]

I went through the thread and summarized the changes. While the stuff discussed is new to us it's the same as the Tab Pro 10.1. Here's a link to the Tab Pro user manual in case anyone wants more detail. http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...axy_Tab_PRO_KK_English_User_Manual_NAE_F2.pdf
Cliff Notes [Updated: May 14]
Changes to Multi View
guthrien said:
The multiwindow bar is on the right and flush to the screen. It's double stacked and much neater.
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"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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New Notification Panel
guthrien said:
The notification panel is the most obvious change.
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Updated Pen Window that Support all Multi View Apps
GldRush98 said:
Does pen window manager work to add additional apps to the pen window on 4.4?
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You can add tons more apps out of the box. Apps available are now common to both multiview and Pen Window. You can now directly open Pen Window apps without using Air Command or having to draw on the screen. You just open the multiview panel from the right and tap an app (vs. dragging it). A box comes up allowing you to open it in traditional multiview mode or floating like Cascade view worked on the OG Note 10.1. Pretty cool.
Tapping the box with the "+" sign shown below opens an app in a floating window, the box below it opens it as a standard multiview window.
Revised Task Manager (no change to capacitive button functions)
Itchiee said:
A different task manager....
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Improved Scrap Book App
guthrien said:
I've only used scrapbook so far, it's much slicker in layout, and comes with a copyright warning lol.
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Smoother Performance
hpblze said:
The Web Browser is smoother, the fonts in the whole system are pretty, the UI is very slick and the colors and sharpness have definitely improved ..
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smac7 said:
wake lag is gone.
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pierrekid said:
S pen response and pop up menu are significantly improved. It's now at the speed of the note 3!
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nrage23 said:
CND2 is super fast. I have not debloated at all and it feels much smoother. I ran Antutu and got the best score I have seen on my tablet.
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Multi Touch Bug Improved
hpblze said:
The Multi - Touch bug is almost goneee !
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Additional Lock Screen Security Option
cantfindanick said:
i noticed there is a new locking style added, or did not noticed before.
Signature (Low Safety)
requires you to draw your signature with your pen, also requires you to set a pin just in case
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S Note Improvements
sbeanie said:
So far with S Note, I've noticed some features that I either didn't know existed before, or are new. Inserting an image there is now a "Take picture in drawn frame" option where you draw the frame for the picture, and the camera is loaded inside of the frame for you to take a picture of something. Quite useful I must say. Another, definitely new option is that for annotating. A new button at the bottom of S Note, with an "A" and a pen as the icon, allows you to zoom in or your notes and write on them with greater precision in a zoomed in box at the bottom of the screen. You can resize the box to a size that suits you.
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Improved Stand-by Battery Life
toyanucci said:
Standby battery life has Donatella improved! Usually the best of her overnight is losing 1% every 6 hours. This is with wifi off. I unplugged last night at midnight as it was fully charged and went to bed. 9 hours later is still at 100%
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Support for Multiuser
MarrowK said:
Yes it is possible now to add multiple users with restricted profiles
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Improved My Files App
Elim said:
No, it [My Files] is completely re-designed, better then ever and I didn't have any lags any more (before a start takes up to 1 minute at the end).
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New S Pen Behavior
Nosaiyare said:
Has anyone else noticed the s pen behaves differently as it approaches the edge of the screen. Instead of offsetting it seems to snap on a grid, making it much more accurate
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Greatly Reduced (Exynos) Charging Time
toyanucci said:
Reporting charging time. Went from 2% to 96% in 4 hours using the charger and cable that came with the device.
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Improved Battery Life
pierrekid said:
Just have to say wow at this battery. Usually I take my tab off the charger at 6am and by 8pm its around 10% with heavy use. Sitting around 55% after update. I use my tab the same way everyday. Amazing update!!!
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*Screen Write (via Air Command) Images no Longer Compressed
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I tried not to use screen write (from air command) on my previous firmware because I got terribly compressed images. Now this is gone and works as intended
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*Mini (Floating?) Keyboard Default in Multi View
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If you need to input text while using multi-window a handy discreet and movable keyboard pops up by default so it won't block the video you were watching on the other window. I really hated the full size keyboard taking have the screen in this situation.
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*Lock Screen "Cards" Replace Lock Screen Widgets
Note: This exists on the Pro 12.2's, it doesn't exist on the 8.4 and 10.1 Pro's so it's highly doubtful we'll be getting it. So there's nothing to replace the now missing lock screen widgets
*Note 10.1 2014's Getting Hancom Office (all Samsung 4.4 tablets including the $199 Tab4 7 are getting it)
Samsung e-Meeting's Available
Available In Samsung App's. So the only thing we don't have from the Pro's officially is the new keyboard, M-UX, and Remote PC. The latter's available here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2624986 )and can be loaded as a standard APK. Personally, with M-UX so barren of widgets and tiles, the loss of another resource hog of questionable value isn't really a loss; at least to me. I would like (without rooting) to have the new keyboard but such is life.

The multiwindow bar is on the right and flush to the screen. It's double stacked and much neater. There's a lot more attention to style, a mix between kitkat ui and twiz, much nicer. The notification panel is the most obvious change.
I've only used scrapbook so far, it's much slicker in layout, and comes with a copyright warning lol. Can't wait to dig in more.
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guthrien said:
The multiwindow bar is on the right and flush to the screen. It's double stacked and much neater. There's a lot more attention to style, a mix between kitkat ui and twiz, much nicer. The notification panel is the most obvious change.
I've only used scrapbook so far, it's much slicker in layout, and comes with a copyright warning lol. Can't wait to dig in more.
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Any Screen Grab ? , hoping to see this soon for our Note P-601

The new multi window bar is nicer, no more little tab it just swipes in from the right.
Although I cant get more then 2 tabs going with the mods ive installed.
Overall look is nicer and more modern. I cant discuss TW since I prefer Nova launcher....

Okay, I'm pretty curious about and need to know: did s note app update?
Plus, I'd love some screenshot, really. And please, can someone record a simple video? That would be GREAT. Thanks.

Multitouch issues?
Are the multitouch screen issues resolved, or at least lessened, by this firmware? I'm somewhat new to Android and may just wait for the OTA US update, but I do wonder. Would it be advised to update to another recent firmware that DOES fix the issue prior to updating to Kitkat? Or would Kitkat firmware totally just overwrite the previous update anyway? Thanks all.

Did it get the Pro 10.1's keyboard?

No, it seems like the same keyboard as previous.
Perhaps we can port that one over unofficially.... The arrow keys are nice.

A different task manager....

Itchiee said:
A different task manager....
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Someone has posted somewhere a way to change it, I don't know how it was but in that way it looked a way better.

the post is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51955851
did someone else try this?
and is it possible now to open the task manager with the menu softkey?

to early
BarryH_GEG said:
Anyone care to comment on what's new or different feature wise?
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Wait, wait... this it NOT a offical upddate but a leaked version and normally in such versions are bugs or stuff is missing. And also Samsung often made such mistakes but the home-button issue shows for me that this is NOT a final version!
So, please, don't interpret here now anything... it is useless unless we got the final version.
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micro17 said:
did someone else try this?
and is it possible now to open the task manager with the menu softkey?
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Yes, this 'cheat' works. But what did you mean with 'softkey'? I don't have one... and the menu key is still a menu key. So, we still have to long press the home key for the taskmanager (also with this cheat). But first time I long press the home button (before the cheat) I got a info popup, which is talking about the menu key. This is for me another hint that this is not a final version. Also some system settings entries didn't work but crash and so on.

any performance improvements noticed? i tried the tab pro and it was a bit smoother than ours

Elim said:
Wait, wait... this it NOT a offical upddate but a leaked version and normally in such versions are bugs or stuff is missing. And also Samsung often made such mistakes but the home-button issue shows for me that this is NOT a final version!
So, please, don't interpret here now anything... it is useless unless we got the final version.
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Yes, this 'cheat' works. But what did you mean with 'softkey'? I don't have one... and the menu key is still a menu key. So, we still have to long press the home key for the taskmanager (also with this cheat). But first time I long press the home button (before the cheat) I got a info popup, which is talking about the menu key. This is for me another hint that this is not a final version. Also some system settings entries didn't work but crash and so on.
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To that point the rom's build date is apparently 2-4-2014 there has got to be a showstopper bug in there somewhere that they are fighting with or samsung would have probably released this after fixing up the small things ppl are noticing... Either that or Samsung really was holding back the release to get more purchases of the note pro series

Elim said:
Wait, wait... this it NOT a offical upddate but a leaked version and normally in such versions are bugs or stuff is missing. And also Samsung often made such mistakes but the home-button issue shows for me that this is NOT a final version!
So, please, don't interpret here now anything... it is useless unless we got the final version.
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According to this post in the thread with download mirrors, it did come as an official OTA update, not as a leak, just only in Colombia.
MarrowK said:
I am from Colombia and can confirm you are all correct, I never get offcial updates for anything here but after reading about this update i grabbed my sm-p600 and clicked on software update, and guess what is downloading now, I cant believe it.
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Absolutely Love it !
Every thing about this update is solid , The Web Browser is smoother , the fonts in the whole system are pretty , the UI is very slick and the colors and sharpness have definitely improved ..
The Multi - Touch bug is almost goneee ! Lots lots more , need to play with this ..
Its perfect for me now , And the value of my tablet has definitely Jumped
I guess the long delay was very thoughtfully utilized
Thank You Sammy :angel:

It is possible
micro17 said:
the post is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51955851
did someone else try this?
and is it possible now to open the task manager with the menu softkey?
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Yes it is possible to use the menue softkey to open up the task manager.
But you have to be rooted.
Use an root file explorer to navigate to /system/usr/keylayout/Generic.kl
Edit line 139 and change "MENU" to "APP_SWITCH"
Save the file and then reboot. now you have a recent apps softkey

I'm obviously new to Samsung tablets, only having Samsung smartphones in the past. But why is the SM-P600, a Wi-Fi tablet requiring regional roll outs? There is no carrier bloat to deal with. I can understand language and possibly keyboard differences, but really? I bought the WiFi version to avoid this type of roll out. I guess back to Nexus devices if I want direct updates...

benni2903 said:
Yes it is possible to use the menue softkey to open up the task manager.
But you have to be rooted.
Use an root file explorer to navigate to /system/usr/keylayout/Generic.kl
Edit line 139 and change "MENU" to "APP_SWITCH"
Save the file and then reboot. now you have a recent apps softkey
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If i hold the menu key will i get the menu button? Thanks
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rcsiccion said:
If i hold the menu key will i get the menu button? Thanks
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No I am trying to find out where I can change the longe-press behavior. I guess alternatively we will need the xposed framework