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[Q] Galaxy S4 versions and Developer support

Hey guys,
Just recently sold my Samsung Note 2, Samsung Galaxy S3.
I was actually saving some cash for the S4 but there is one thing I am wondering..
I heard something about the Netherlands (which where I'm located) as well as some other (European) countries will probably not get the worldwide version but the US/4G version with the Quallcom Snapdragon S600 instead of the octa-core.. (might be because 4G is taking of in Europe now.. not sure)
This leaves me wondering.. If the press statements are true and we will only have the Snapdragon 600 version, can we expect much Dev support for it?
For example.. I really loved roms like Omega and AOKP,AOSP on my S3 I9300..
As an IT guy myself I figured it must be easier for Devs to work with the snapdragon S600 in terms of programming and documentation but looking at the Samsung Galaxy S3 forums the Dev activity for the US version seems very low compared to the international one..
Long question short.. since Samsung will probably sell the Snapdragon 600 in various parts of the world, is it realistic to think we will have great support for both devices?
What do you guys think? please elaborate and keep it nice just want to share opinions and learn.

Both will probably have great support.
Go for it.
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Skander1998 said:
Both will probably have great support.
Go for it.
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Could you please share with me why you think that it might be different this time compared to the previous situation with the different S3 versions?

Skander1998 said:
Both will probably have great support.
Go for it.
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Certainly not.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the S600 version will have better developer support because of Samsung's stinginess with releasing the binaries for the Exynos CPUs.
So you'd probably be better going off going with the 4G version if you want dev support.

razzmataz1478 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the S600 version will have better developer support because of Samsung's stinginess with releasing the binaries for the Exynos CPUs.
So you'd probably be better going off going with the 4G version if you want dev support.
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Thinking the same thing. As far as I know, most of the issues with the I9300 development stem from Samsung's lack of documentation and complete source-code for the Exynos chip. Hopefully the 4G version of the S4 (with the S600) will have better documentation. Would appreciate someone smarter than me elaborating on this, since the development side is a very important factor for me when buying a phone

JoNAsOS3 said:
Thinking the same thing. As far as I know, most of the issues with the I9300 development stem from Samsung's lack of documentation and complete source-code for the Exynos chip. Hopefully the 4G version of the S4 (with the S600) will have better documentation. Would appreciate someone smarter than me elaborating on this, since the development side is a very important factor for me when buying a phone
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Exactly, developer support is important to most of us here on XDA.
From a technical point of view I wouldn't mind getting S4 snapdragon 600 with LTE/4G but I want decent dev support.
So what do you guys think? I would like to hear different point of views from everyone.
I agree on the fact the S600 is wider used and documentation is more available so this should theoretically mean that the S600 could receive decent support..
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benno4403 said:
Exactly, developer support is important to most of us here on XDA.
From a technical point of view I wouldn't mind getting S4 snapdragon 600 with LTE/4G but I want decent dev support.
So what do you guys think? I would like to hear different point of views from everyone.
I agree on the fact the S600 is wider used and documentation is more available so this should theoretically mean that the S600 could receive decent support..
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Well at the minute all d2s have official CM10.1 but the Exynos i9300 doesn't. That probably sums up the situation.

razzmataz1478 said:
Well at the minute all d2s have official CM10.1 but the Exynos i9300 doesn't. That probably sums up the situation.
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Hmm, I see..
For anyone wondering which version you will get in your location, I asked Samsung HK and Samsung USA if they could give us some more info on this. Also tried UK and Netherlands but they don't know anything at Samsung there.
I'll be called by someone from the HK/US office. Hopefully they can shine a light on this.
Seems like I will be sticking with the S600 version if that's the only version we will get in some european countries (NL/DE) and US. Let's hope the developer support will be decent.
If anyone knows some more info on which models are going to come out where, please comment here:fingers-crossed:

Samsung Norway says (on Facebook) that Scandinavia will get the S600, because of 4G Personally I'm thrilled by this, considering the poor source code and documentation for Exynos.

I also like the S600 version as long as we get proper support for it.
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Is it true Exynos phones will have smaller community vs snapdragon??

Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.

F9zSlavik said:
Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.
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There will be Exynos OctaCore with LTE
like S III QuadCore with LTE
however Samsung confirm it for some regions like S.Korea
So u can buy it and enjoy
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Samsung said 70% of the first 10 million galaxy S4 will be S600 proc because of some problems in Exynos production ...

Roms were interchangeable between all the American snapdragon S4 with a few tweaks by devs.
Most likely it will be the same case with all the sd600 Roms. So development will be easier.
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Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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In a short answer is yes it will be more popular as 70% is getting quadcore.

mix1987 said:
Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.

Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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Fu5ion said:
Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.

Entropy512 said:
No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200908

Fu5ion said:
Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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Who knows. The CDMA guys are always in their own land. I'm not sure if sbrissen did any work with the Qcom-based GS3s.
I think some of the guys who do work on d2vzw and d2spr are semi-interested, however, at least some of them are questioning whether they can justify a device purchase already, and most of them are (like myself) not fans of user donations.
There's also the fact that with each iteration, Samsung is getting much better at locking down Verizon devices. Don't count on this next iteration getting cracked rapidly.

Entropy512 said:
No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?

True.

F9zSlavik said:
So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?
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It is a real pain to deal with when you don't have proper documentation to work with. Add in the fact that Samsung flat out lied to devs and you have why they are willing to leave the OEM. To be honest I think in the end most devs will end up on the nexus so they don't have to deal with closed source BS from the OEMs. How many cores the device has is not really a problem as it doesn't effect alot. I have had both of the S3 and they run the same. Mix in the fact that the extra 4 cores won't do anything for performance and android is not really able to take advantage of them. Muti level threading on android is still not up to par for anything other then a dual core device.
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Entropy512 said:
70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.
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Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.

dladz said:
Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.
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They already moved to Xperia Z
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Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?

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Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?
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Yes you lose all Samsung features

dladz said:
To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
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Wont matter as Samsung refuses to release proper documentation on any Exynos chip. So even if every samsung had the same chip development would be slow going.

[Q] Exynos / SD600 choice within the UK?

Hi guys,
I'm afraid people will consider this a re-hash of existing threads however I haven't seen one specific to the UK and have a few questions to ask.
I currently have an i9305 but when I previously owned an i9300 I noticed that development was done more Europe than America due to your differences in handsets due to carriers.
Are there going to be differences between the i9500 and the i9505 in terms of dev support towards the UK?
As in, the i9505 will most probably have more developer support as Snapdragon source code is available (?) and so an actual stable ROM could be released, and also LTE is very popular now.
But would the developers in the U.S create ROMS that would work on the UK varient?
The reason I ask is because I love the SG3 but have grown disgusted by TouchWiz now and I don't care for the gimmicky TW features in the S4, I just like the horsepower it's packing bundled with that display and battery. CM10.1 on my SG3 has alleviated my disgust for TW which was held at bay through Nova launcher but inevitably got more and more irritating.
I was thinking to wait for the new Nexus, but that could be a while and could be underwhelming, and since they tend to be a lot cheaper I figure if it does come out and is amazing then I could probably sell the SG4 and have money left over after buying the new Nexus.
Also, on a side-note, is anyone in the UK planning on importing an Exynos varient? To me the lack of dev support and LTE for -slightly- better noticeable performance and potentially slightly better battery life isn't enough to justify it.
Cheers

There is a thread for UK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191766
Official Ireland/UK Galaxy S4 Thread
But to answer your query. The UK is getting the same i9505 as the US. This time most of western Europe is not getting the Exynos (i9500). Asia and Eastern Europe seem to be getting it this time. Which is annoying as I want the Exynos version personally.
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skibadee said:
There is a thread for UK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191766
Official Ireland/UK Galaxy S4 Thread
But to answer your query. The UK is getting the same i9505 as the US. This time most of western Europe is not getting the Exynos (i9500). Asia and Eastern Europe seem to be getting it this time. Which is annoying as I want the Exynos version personally.
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Ok that's cool, to be honest I am happy enough with my S3 I could wait for an Exynos LTE release since I am buying SIM-free anyway, but again for me developer support is really important so I think I'm better off with the Snapdragon varient, and let's be honest, the specs are still amazing.

Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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Fu5ion said:
Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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Why you buy 4 cores when you haw 8 cores??
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Fu5ion said:
Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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duh, audio chip beats the bottom of 4 core

First 70% release of S4 will be Snapdragon version,so all Europe will have Snapdragon and the devs will support it more for this and because of the open source.Also every developer who work with Exynos sick of it and i don't think he will prefer it again easly.So if you need suport go with the Snapdragon version,and yes the specs is still amazing!

Would "Google edition" S4 help us?

EDIT: Well its here. So what do you all think. It comes with at&t bands so we should have access to a lot of important aosp info.
OLD: So u know nothing is confirmed as of yet, and I know that it seems the thing is spring t-mo bands, but wouldn't this device being available be a major win for us as well? I'm figuring most of the docentation would be identical to ours, so we'd have full access to the phones resources, and all of us could just merge proprietary info from our respective carriers into ROMs and the like. Am I off on this or would this be great news, even for those of us without the major funds to buy the "google" version.
Just trying to learn and going for a discussion . Any insight would be associated.
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No one wants to chime in on this?
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Not a dev so I can't say for sure but I would think that there would be some benefit for AOSP based ROMs, at least for models that share the same chipset as the "Google Edition" though if there is no new source code released it would mean you'd need to rip binaries from the stock image of the new device to benefit and many devs don't want to go there.
If it turns out that Google (not Samsung) is doing the development work for the device, that it's more like a non-gimped nexus, it could be HUGE but that's not the case for most unskinned ROMs.

If this does happen...I think it would be more like the international version...
Although, either way this would hopefully give us code/drivers for new sensors such as the ir and others...allowing us to possibly bring support for those sensors to aosp...maybe, I'm no dev my self but that what I believe
Either way....I'm very skeptical about this piece of news and think its gonna turn out false...why would Samsung release a Google edition? And if they wanted to release an aosp version why would they do so through Google event? Knowing Samsung they would have their own event
IDK the whole thing seemed to pop up out of no where...and the pieces aren't really fitting in
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mg2195 said:
If this does happen...I think it would be more like the international version...
Although, either way this would hopefully give us code/drivers for new sensors such as the ir and others...allowing us to possibly bring support for those sensors to aosp...maybe, I'm no dev my self but that what I believe
Either way....I'm very skeptical about this piece of news and think its gonna turn out false...why would Samsung release a Google edition? And if they wanted to release an aosp version why would they do so through Google event? Knowing Samsung they would have their own event
IDK the whole thing seemed to pop up out of no where...and the pieces aren't really fitting in
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Well, its here!! I really hope our bootloader unlock gives us access to some of the great features the google edition will provide!! Im mostly curious about the IR Blaster. Id love to be able to keep my remote control without all the samsung bloat.
Anyone else excited about this?
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pokedroid said:
Well, its here!! I really hope our bootloader unlock gives us access to some of the great features the google edition will provide!! Im mostly curious about the IR Blaster. Id love to be able to keep my remote control without all the samsung bloat.
Anyone else excited about this?
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Yes I am, assuming that the Google model uses Snapdragon chipset and not the Exynos it means that we could flash the Google Edition ROM on our phones and that potentially there will be a lot better support for the hardware for AOSP based custom ROMs.

raitchison said:
Yes I am, assuming that the Google model uses Snapdragon chipset and not the Exynos it means that we could flash the Google Edition ROM on our phones and that potentially there will be a lot better support for the hardware for AOSP based custom ROMs.
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Man this would be really great news. Im going to stick to your school of thought until told otherwise
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Noob alert : what does this mean? A phone without all the bloat ? Different hardware features?
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Noob alert : what does this mean? A phone without all the bloat ? Different hardware features?
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Bloatware is OEM and Carrier installed apps that takes up precious memory and you can't delete.. OEM= Samsung
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Bloatware is OEM and Carrier installed apps that takes up precious memory and you can't delete.. OEM= Samsung
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I don't think this phone will come with Bloatware. If that were true, my Nexus 10 would've came pre installed with a bunch of Samsung software.
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I understand the development communities interest in this phone. I love flashing and enjoying, with my beer contributions, the dev's hard work.
I was excited and planned on waiting for more news on this phone before deciding which phone I am soon going to buy.
But, after I/O today and being told 16gb only, I think Google/Samsung failed again. For me, a 16gb Flagship phone is unacceptable. I have a One S and find it hard not to run out of memory and I don't game.
Sad news today for some of us. Hopefully the memory size will change before June 26th. But, I doubt it.

Underworld79 said:
I don't think this phone will come with Bloatware. If that were true, my Nexus 10 would've came pre installed with a bunch of Samsung software.
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Well it definitely wont have bloat, as a "pure nexus experience" has been confirmed. I think the previous poster say providing clarification and/or enlightening the self-proclaimed "noob" who asked about it earlier.
Man I'm not even concerned about the bootloader u lock anymore.. I'd rather wait til the Google edition drops anyway, we're talking near-immediate and near-flawless cm/aokp/pa support.
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I wonder how much of that 16gb will be usable without the bloat though. The stock TW ROM is immense. AOSP is going to be much lighter, giving you more of your 16 gigs.
This is great news for anybody with an S4. The devs are going to have a field day with an AOSP ROM designed for this phone, and we will all profit.
When Dans glorious unlock is released, and the Google edition is released, it will completely change this device for the better for anyone willing to take the romming plunge.
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My rooted One S with 16gb internal has 9.93 available. That's coming with Sense as opposed to TW.
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[Q] Confused - I9500 or I9505

Been reading a lot about their differences and still can't get a clue as which one to buy. Its been more than a month since S4 is released and generally speaking, I am looking to buy S4 not specifically to use 4G, but for general use, mostly apps, a few games (not a hardcore mobile gamer) and also interesting mods.
The other day I came across a game for android specially mentioning it will work only in Adreno GPU. This quite surprised and confused me as to if in future, apps and games will be customised based on CPU/GPU?
Provided the issues that have been reported, mainly the overheating and battery drain, is it wise to wait for a month or two so that Samsung release a second production batch of S4 with these issues fixed? Or there won't any hardware fixes for S4 anymore?
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.

GreenXSI said:
Been reading a lot about their differences and still can't get a clue as which one to buy. Its been more than a month since S4 is released and generally speaking, I am looking to buy S4 not specifically to use 4G, but for general use, mostly apps, a few games (not a hardcore mobile gamer) and also interesting mods.
The other day I came across a game for android specially mentioning it will work only in Adreno GPU. This quite surprised and confused me as to if in future, apps and games will be customised based on CPU/GPU?
Provided the issues that have been reported, mainly the overheating and battery drain, is it wise to wait for a month or two so that Samsung release a second production batch of S4 with these issues fixed? Or there won't any hardware fixes for S4 anymore?
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.
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there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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negrobembon said:
there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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Snapdragon 800? Didn't hear of that until now, thanks for the info Now that is really worth a wait, but for how long

negrobembon said:
there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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Don't wait for those, the S5 will be out next year!!
Wait for that instead.
Come on this is ridiculous!
The S4 is a great phone, there will always be better phones just around the corner so just go for the S4.
Either version is good. If you need help making up your mind read one of the hundred threads already on xda about this.

GreenXSI said:
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.
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i9505. Two words, developer support. Oh and 4G LOL
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Is there 4g on tmobile?
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Obagleyfreer said:
Don't wait for those, the S5 will be out next year!!
Wait for that instead.
Come on this is ridiculous!
The S4 is a great phone, there will always be better phones just around the corner so just go for the S4.
Either version is good. If you need help making up your mind read one of the hundred threads already on xda about this.
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Well, I only planning to buy an S4 and only confused due to different models in S4. And if the Snapdragon 800 model is going to be out in say 2 months or less, I guess its worth the wait?
P.S. No time to wait until S5 launches