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What's the breakdown of the 16GB of memory?

Is it 8GB for os + apps and 8GB for media? Or maybe a new file system with Gingerbread that does not allow USB mass storage but all 16GB for os + apps + media?

It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...

So we are probably looking at roughly 14gb of available data stock? That's not that bad after all, most people are dealing with a 16gb microSD anyways. At least this will be faster... they should have made it 32gb or at least have the option... my heart is broken to have no removable storage (almost a deal-breaker)

It's not too terrible honestly. It's fully accessible when plugged into a PC. It's simply an internal SD card... Just copy the files off if you want them moved. No huge deal imho. Not that I wouldn't have preferred it to be external (bought a new 16GB class 4 for nothing)

Anderdroid said:
It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...
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Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.

Pete2s said:
Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.
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Err what? That's the point of the SD Cards. It is very easy for an game to download it's resources onto the SD Card... I own an iPad. Android and iPad do things differently. Both approaches work.

The Nexus S actually has two flash parts -- 512MB of onenand and 16GB emmc. The onenand hosts the bootloader, kernel/ramdisk, radio firmware, and the cache partition (yaffs2). The emmc part hosts /system (ext4), /data (ext4), and /sdcard (vfat).
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I believe the /data partition which holds the apps(AFAIK) is about 1 GB from the screenshots.

very disappointing that over a year after the moto droid launches, we have moved to internal storage (which should give more room for more memory) and we are still stuck at 16gb

The galaxy S line works like this:
2GB /Data partition for apps
13GB /sdcard partition that acts exactly like an SD card.
The extra missing 1GB is most likely the system storage.

The storage for app is about 1GB. See screenshot from Engadget :
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-s-hands-on/#3644046
See screenshot no. 45.
There you go, happy?
I think I am fine with it. Right now I am using HTC Desire with its pathetic 40MB storage for app. So, 1GB is a huge upgrade for me

Check Engadget, they explain that apps can be placed in the internal extra space to substitute for the lack of SD card, still not great but at least you know Google knew this would be an issue, and fixed it. Honestly, the market is full of great 3d games, if I were to download all of the great 3d games in the market, I would still have enough space on the device for my 5 gigs of music, they don't take that much space.

Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
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Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.

saint327 said:
Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.
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You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day

demo23019 said:
You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day
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You can on the hero CDMA with firerat's mod

demo23019 said:
Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegTiCa6RTQ
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would of rather the 2GB to be on the safe side, but 5 times the space of the nexus one sounds pretty damn good to me.

64GB Micro SD card WORKS!

just formatted it with EASYUS to FAT32 and it works. Copied my 32gb content over and did not even have to redo my home screens. I also partitioned it to use with link2sd but have not yet tried out linking any apps.

Sweet dude where did you find one of them? I've been looking but no go so far
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well done...
any screenshot, to confirm...
i'm going to buy it, if it really works....
thanks...

I bought from play.com directly and it works. I saw them on amazon.co.uk cheaper but the one from amazon says 2-4 weeks delivery and the one from their market place third party i did not want to take the risk with. I can do the screenshot later but I promise you it works. I made it into two partitions now one FAT32 and another ext2 for link2sd and started moving some apps incl data and library files to get more internal space. so far a did only a couple of apps and after reboot it shows more free internal memory but I want to do more to see proper effect. will report on that later.

SDHC or SDXC?

Ok, we'll wait for it, can you show us also the storage info screenshot of your link2sd, I just wanna see how you did that 2 partition, mine has ext2 only..

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And settings storage one
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SDHC or SDXC?
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Sdxc but adapter says sdhc. By SanDisk. Hope it helps.
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Wow, I had a 64gb card laying around somewere, will try it later.

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Link2sd screen
And settings storage one
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hwowowo ,i can't really imaging . . . .the Xperia Play can use 64Gb micro SD ,really impressive . . .maybe in early time i must by 64 GB for my PLAY ,good thank for you

Forgive me for not really understanding this thread, but a few questions:
Why is it so amazing that a 64gb SD card works? Why wouldn't a 64gb SD card work? Is this likely to only work with certain brands or certain phones? If I get a sandisk 64gb SD card should I expect any problems?

tmovids said:
Forgive me for not really understanding this thread, but a few questions:
Why is it so amazing that a 64gb SD card works? Why wouldn't a 64gb SD card work? Is this likely to only work with certain brands or certain phones? If I get a sandisk 64gb SD card should I expect any problems?
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The Xperia Play is listed as only having an SDHC MicroSD port. SDHC officially, only supports up to 32GB per the specifications. The newer SDXC specification supports capacities up to 2TB.
That said, I think the OP poster should use one of the the free testing apps in the market like SD Card Tester, etc. to try filling up the card with real data. I've often seen cases of cards reporting more capacity than they can actually hold/access and errors may not occur until you try to actually fill up the space with real data despite the reported capacity from the OS appearing ok. This is especially common with Chinese e-bay sellers, etc. selling mislabeled memory cards that start giving errors when you start filling them up.

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That said, I think the OP poster should use one of the the free testing apps in the market like SD Card Tester, etc. to try filling up the card with real data. I've often seen cases of cards reporting more capacity than they can actually hold/access and errors may not occur until you try to actually fill up the space with real data despite the reported capacity from the OS appearing ok. This is especially common with Chinese e-bay sellers, etc. selling mislabeled memory cards that start giving errors when you start filling them up.
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I know what you mean that's way did not even wont to buy from marketplace amazon sellers just in case they had fakes for some reason. I have filled it with the content of almost full 32GB card and did not have any problems yet - most fake cards are much smaller capacity than 32gb so I don't think I will have a problem.

tmovids said:
Forgive me for not really understanding this thread, but a few questions:
Why is it so amazing that a 64gb SD card works? Why wouldn't a 64gb SD card work? Is this likely to only work with certain brands or certain phones? If I get a sandisk 64gb SD card should I expect any problems?
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The reason I was so amazed is that I asked people on the forum here and was told it would not work above 32GB but it does. Someone on the tablet did the same thing with 128GB SD card but not micro form factor. So now we know and I hope it helps someone who like me before was not sure if it would work.

ps3taker said:
I know what you mean that's way did not even wont to buy from marketplace amazon sellers just in case they had fakes for some reason. I have filled it with the content of almost full 32GB card and did not have any problems yet - most fake cards are much smaller capacity than 32gb so I don't think I will have a problem.
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Try going over 32gb with data and see what happens when trying to read it back. The free SD card tester in the market can make it very easy..slide the slider to the right and see how it does.
https://market.android.com/details?id=air.com.anotherflexdev.sdcardtester.SDCardTester

thanks for the screenshot you provided...
again question...
any lag with HD games?

I find it faster but it could be because I also started using app2sd and now have more internal memory. I used to get force close/wait messages before even in settings and play launcher menus and my low on space message would be triggered frequently - now it is no problem

zipeee2 said:
Try going over 32gb with data and see what happens when trying to read it back. The free SD card tester in the market can make it very easy..slide the slider to the right and see how it does.
https://market.android.com/details?id=air.com.anotherflexdev.sdcardtester.SDCardTester
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I agree....until over 32GB of the card is full there's really no way of confirming this 100% works

Very close to filling it over 32gb. When final dexter is aired i will fill it over 32gb and test.
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zipeee2 said:
Try going over 32gb with data and see what happens when trying to read it back. The free SD card tester in the market can make it very easy..slide the slider to the right and see how it does.
https://market.android.com/details?id=air.com.anotherflexdev.sdcardtester.SDCardTester
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Hi, I just bought a Sandisk 64GB card for my Xperia Play and I can confirm it's working fine. I used the above app to verify my card that already had about 14GB of data on it, which can also be seen in the screenshot below (the max amount of data i could test was ~46GB, which is about right... 60-14 = 46).
I set it to write another 25GB for a total of ~39GB and it had to problems.
This took about three hours to test, and if i shut off the screen it stopped testing... as you can see my battery almost died. I'm glad I didn't try filling it up fully
Anyway, I hope this helps someone.

[Memory] Deal of the Day - 32GB Class 10 for $39

It is the deal of the day on Amazon. A nice treat I woke up to (supposedly $79 off normal price).
I do not need more memory, but perhaps some of you do?
http://goo.gl/HjtHo
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Is Lexar a good brand? I usually stick to Transcend.
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s15274n said:
It is the deal of the day on Amazon. A nice treat I woke up to (supposedly $79 off normal price).
I do not need more memory, but perhaps some of you do?
http://goo.gl/HjtHo
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Lexar's not bad.
I saw this, too. But if you're trying to save money check the Amazon link below.
Edit: Comment retracted. Apologies.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G60AD6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

A class 10 will always blow out a class 4 when performance is involved (manufacturer branding aside of course). I have had a 32gb c10 for about a year now and love it. Before I had a 16gb c6 which was way better than the garbage that phones come with as stock.
Here is a nice little app that I use from time to time to check my r/w speeds. Pretty accurate for an in-phone-sdcard speed reader. Best tests are done on PC but this one is close.

Class most certainly makes a difference. That said, 32GB cl 4 for $30 is also a great deal. I'd step up to Cl 10 for another $10 though.

Wow awesome price! Noobb question would the vibrant support it? If so im ordering it now
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Yes. I am rocking a 32gb right now with about 200cds, 4 movies and a bunch of other stuff and only have 14gb used, plus that extra 9gb I have free on the internal.
Seriously with +/-16gb internal and a 32gb sdcard, that is almost 50gb of storage. Remember when PCs had 30gb hd drives and that was huge?

^ Another MAJOR reason why I am SO glad to have the Vibrant back. The GS4G only had a 1GB internal... wooptie doo for the next generation Vibrant.
I can recall my first mp3 player with 256MB space. Ouch.

s15274n said:
^ Another MAJOR reason why I am SO glad to have the Vibrant back. The GS4G only had a 1GB internal... wooptie doo for the next generation Vibrant.
I can recall my first mp3 player with 256MB space. Ouch.
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Lol, I had a 50 mb player, it basically only held one album tops, and it had to be low quality too.

Woodrube said:
Yes. I am rocking a 32gb right now with about 200cds, 4 movies and a bunch of other stuff and only have 14gb used, plus that extra 9gb I have free on the internal.
Seriously with +/-16gb internal and a 32gb sdcard, that is almost 50gb of storage. Remember when PCs had 30gb hd drives and that was huge?
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How long it takes your phone to scan the card on booting/mounting?
I had a 16GB class 6 it worked fine on reading/writing, but everytime phone took long time on scanning, so switched back to 8GB class 6, much faster on scanning

Maybe 2 minutes max. With strategic .nomedia files it only scans what I want it too.

Finally got this bad boy in the mail and I love it. Well worth the buy and I had an Amazon card that i didnt use for Christmas so it was free. Good find id thank you unfortunately I can't on the app
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seedofchaos said:
Finally got this bad boy in the mail and I love it. Well worth the buy and I had an Amazon card that i didnt use for Christmas so it was free. Good find id thank you unfortunately I can't on the app
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Big fan of mine as well. Great card.

Same price at Tiger Direct
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...PWATCH&cm_mmc_o=2mHCjCVybgwczfgtCjCVqHCjCdwwp

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Same price at Tiger Direct
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...PWATCH&cm_mmc_o=2mHCjCVybgwczfgtCjCVqHCjCdwwp
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You are a few weeks late. This was 30$ when I bought it
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Nook Color Question

I currently have a Nook Color. It's an older one, had it for like a year and a half. It has 1g of internal memory(as far as I am able to tell from within settings). When I read about the newer Nooks they all say they have 8gb of internal storage and 16 million colors. Mine I do not think has that many colors because any colorful pictures look horrible. Do the newer Nooks have more on board storage for apps and better screens? Because if they do I may well buy one and give my mom my old Nook. Are they still easy to convert to CM7/9? I have googled this in every way I can think of and cannot find an answer! Please help

The new ones are called the nook tablet. There's a section on xda devoted to them. They are harder to root.
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Mine originally had firmware version 1.0.0 It doesn't get much older than that. A NC has 512M of RAM memory, the workpad, and 8G of flash memory, the harddrive. Of that 8G, 2 is reserved and we can't touch it. In your case, you have 1G available to install programs, (like Word or Quicken only for Android), to. The remaining 5G is where you store things like movies, music and ebooks.
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Hi Landara, all Nook Colors have 8GB of internal memory. However, not all of that is available to you. As MISRy mentioned 2GB is used by the OS, 1GB is used by the system for apps and the remaining 5GB is available for whatever you want to put on there giving you the total of 8GB. You also have the option of adding more memory by using a micro SD card which come in many sizes from 1GB to 32GB.
It is strange that you have horrible pictures. The Nook Color has a beautiful screen and it is one of the best on all tablets. You should have sharp, clear, detailed pictures with nice colors. Might need to get a little more info there to see what your issue might be.
As far as loading CM7/CM9 the Nook Color is extremely easy to convert. Not only can you replace the stock OS on the internal memory with CM7/CM9 if you want you can leave the internal memory completely stock and run CM7/CM9 from a bootable micro SD card. Boot up without the card and you will have the stock Nook Color. Boot up with the card inserted and you will have a CM7 or CM9 tablet.
The Nook Color is one of the most flexible and easiest tablets to work with.
The "new" version of the Nook Color is called the Nook Tablet. It comes in either 8GB or 16GB internal memory sizes and with a dual core processor. The 16GB model also comes with 1GB of RAM where the 8GB and Nook Color both have 512MB of RAM.
The Nook Tablet is slightly more complicated to modify but not much. Though the risk is a little higher so is the performance. The screen is the same on both the Nook Color and the Nook Tablet.
I hope this helps and strongly suggest you go for CM7 or CM9 on your Nook Color to see what it can really do
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Hi Landara, all Nook Colors have 8GB of internal memory. However, not all of that is available to you. As MISRy mentioned 2GB is used by the OS, 1GB is used by the system for apps and the remaining 5GB is available for whatever you want to put on there giving you the total of 8GB. You also have the option of adding more memory by using a micro SD card which come in many sizes from 1GB to 32GB.
It is strange that you have horrible pictures. The Nook Color has a beautiful screen and it is one of the best on all tablets. You should have sharp, clear, detailed pictures with nice colors. Might need to get a little more info there to see what your issue might be.
As far as loading CM7/CM9 the Nook Color is extremely easy to convert. Not only can you replace the stock OS on the internal memory with CM7/CM9 if you want you can leave the internal memory completely stock and run CM7/CM9 from a bootable micro SD card. Boot up without the card and you will have the stock Nook Color. Boot up with the card inserted and you will have a CM7 or CM9 tablet.
The Nook Color is one of the most flexible and easiest tablets to work with.
The "new" version of the Nook Color is called the Nook Tablet. It comes in either 8GB or 16GB internal memory sizes and with a dual core processor. The 16GB model also comes with 1GB of RAM where the 8GB and Nook Color both have 512MB of RAM.
The Nook Tablet is slightly more complicated to modify but not much. Though the risk is a little higher so is the performance. The screen is the same on both the Nook Color and the Nook Tablet.
I hope this helps and strongly suggest you go for CM7 or CM9 on your Nook Color to see what it can really do
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Thanks, I have always used CM7 on my Nook, it's great. The colors are just poor though. It looks exactly like if you have 256 colors turned on in windows and tried to view a more colorful image(though of course not nearly as bad just the same type of distortion). I am not sure why.

Landara said:
Thanks, I have always used CM7 on my Nook, it's great. The colors are just poor though. It looks exactly like if you have 256 colors turned on in windows and tried to view a more colorful image(though of course not nearly as bad just the same type of distortion). I am not sure why.
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What version of CM7 are you using? That is definitely not right. You should get images like this.
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7.1. Been using it a while. But I have had this issue with any OS I Have tried.

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7.1. Been using it a while. But I have had this issue with any OS I Have tried.
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I'm wondering if you have a bad screen.

http://db.tt/KTlQQUt3
This is what I mean.

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What version of CM7 are you using? That is definitely not right. You should get images like this.
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Sorry to hijack this thread, but what theme is that for CM?

[All Carriers] Internal Storage Partitioning

EDIT (2012-06-27):Great news! Android Central was wrong and internal storage does not appear to be partitioned! Although it's strange that it's not closer to 28GB. Thanks to aznmode for posting the first screenshot in another thread.
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just got mine woot. Heres the memory. I guess its not split?
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To those of you with the 16GB phone in hand, could you post a screenshot of the Storage screen? Androidcentral's review of the 32GB model says that the 32GB is partitioned into 12GB of "phone storage" (for apps) and 12GB of "internal sd". I was all set with getting the 32GB version, but this has now given me pause. Can it be re-partitioned to be one single large partition for apps? If not, I would just go for the 16GB version (assuming it has similar amount of space for apps) and spend the $50-saved on a 32GB MicroSD card.

Yea it is a buzz kill on 32g it saves 12 to USB storage and 12 to internal sd card im getting the 16 gb

Any chance the Dev's will come up with something that will allow us to change this?

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I would think so. The guys in the Nook Tablet forum provided a way to repartition that thing from it's miniscule 1GB of user space.

12 + 12 = 24. Where is that last 8GB? O/S reserved space or something?

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12 + 12 = 24. Where is that last 8GB? O/S reserved space or something?
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I would think so, but that sounds high
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I would think so, but that sounds high
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I think so too, but if it is, then the 16GB crowd will only have 8GB divided between apps and data (before adding a micro SDHC card), that blows.

Totally sucks on the 32gb version which I switched to and ended up waiting longer for. I do hope there is a way to repartition them to one.

This is where I'm at now. Just a few essential apps and a few pics. Haven't put me sd card in yet
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Thanks tkemack! Seems like without re-partitioning, both 16GB-models and 32GB-models will run out of app space at the same time. That's assuming that Android Central really does have the 32GB version...

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I was expecting the 32GB version to have 28GB (12GB+16GB) in a single partition. There's really no reason not to have exactly 16GB more than the 16GB-model. I guess we'll see next week when people get the 32GB-model in hand. Hopefully someone will post a screenshot in this thread.

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I was expecting the 32GB version to have 28GB (12GB+16GB) in a single partition. There's really no reason not to have exactly 16GB more than the 16GB-model. I guess we'll see next week when people get the 32GB-model in hand. Hopefully someone will post a screenshot in this thread.
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I'm hoping the website is wrong as I see no point to partitioning it. Isn't the GNex on Sprint 32GB? Maybe someone who has one of those can shed some light on if theirs is partitioned.

is this something we errrrrrr (the devs) can change ?

This makes me glad I got the 16gb! I was having a hard time deciding, but I figured I could just throw in a 32gb sd card if I start to run out of space. I doubt I'll actually use 16gb just for apps.

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I'm hoping the website is wrong as I see no point to partitioning it. Isn't the GNex on Sprint 32GB? Maybe someone who has one of those can shed some light on if theirs is partitioned.
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Yeah... Epix4G posted a screenshot of the Galaxy Nexus in another thread showing a single large partition.

Now that people are taking delivery of the 32GB-model, could someone post a screenshot of the Storage screen?

aznmode said:
just got mine woot. Heres the memory. I guess its not split?
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