I've spent some time re-installing a lot of games to find quite a few won't work now under Windows 8. Some will just crash on start up and won't boot or give various errors. I've confirmed online others that are experiencing similar issues. I've also noticed that installing framework .net during some game installations fail (not sure if is related or not).
A few examples of games are:
- Super Streetfighter IV Arcade Edition
- Streetfighter X Tekken
- Transformers: Fall of Cybertron
- The Darkness 2
- Rayman Origins (boots but no black screen and audio only)
- Flatout Ultimate Carnage
- Bastion (boots but no black screen and audio only)
- Dead Space 2 (boots but no black screen and audio only)
Does anyone know if these issues will be resolved closer to release through graphics card driver updates or other windows updates? Or will these have to be fixed by individual patches from the game manufacturers themselves? I would hate to think Windows 8 will break many of my games from running.
I've been considering installing Windows 7 on a separate partition just so I can play some of these games that won't run under Windows 8. However I read that you must install the older operating system first, and then install the more recent operating system. If you don't (for example, if you install Windows 7 on a computer already running Windows 8), you can render your system inoperable. This can happen because earlier versions of Windows don't recognize the startup files used in more recent versions of Windows and can overwrite them.
Anyone know if that will be an issue?
What video card do you have?
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What video card do you have?
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Nvidia GTX 590
http://downloadnvidiadriversdirect....dia-geforce-gtx-590-driver-windows-8.html?m=1
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Not sure I need that. I'm running the latest Windows 8 x64 drivers already right from the Nvidia website. Unless there's a new one that just came out in the last week I missed.
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Not sure I need that. I'm running the latest Windows 8 x64 drivers already right from the Nvidia website. Unless there's a new one that just came out in the last week I missed.
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The wddm 1.2 drivers are still a bit too fresh. The wrinkles should sort themselves out after a few more driver releases. Some reports say that the WDDM 1.1 drivers have fewer issues, though you won't get access to any of the new features.
Add Hitman Sniper Challenge to the list.
With previous Windows versions it was possible to e.g. install Windows XP after Windows Vista onto a separate partition (making Windows XP the only bootable system as the Bootloader was overwritten) and then do a Bootloader-Repair from the Vista installation medium which would find both XP and Vista and create a dual boot configuration.
This theoretically should still be possible with Windows 8 although I only tried dual booting with it when installing Windows 8 after Windows 7 so I can't guarantee that it works that way. In the worst case you should be able to get Windows 8 working again by doing a repair installation but when doing such things it's always a good idea to backup important data first.
As for the games: some will have driver issues, some will have issues with version numbers Windows 8 reports which they don't recognize or other Windows 8 behaviors they don't expect (which would make a game patch necessary) and some would likely work when launched in compatibility mode (right click on the Shortcut and navigate to Compatibility and select an older version of Windows).
Also add sleeping dogs to it.
Doesn't work in compatibility mode too. :'(
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I know for a fact Dead Space 2 works perfectly. In fact every game I have thrown at it works save for a few games from the Win98 era.
There has got to be something going wrong in a different area on your system.
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I know for a fact Dead Space 2 works perfectly. In fact every game I have thrown at it works save for a few games from the Win98 era.
There has got to be something going wrong in a different area on your system.
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Nah.... I am one hell of a gamer, and yes 90% games work totally fine on windows 8. But some damn games, such as hp deathly hallows, and a 2012 game, sleeping dogs do not work whatsoever though m using the latest GPU drivers etc.
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do not work whatsoever though m using the latest GPU drivers etc.
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that might well be your problem then. Some people have reported having to roll back 1 driver version to get some software running.
I have tried certain games on Windows 8 including new and old and all of them worked fine for me. I must say, if a game runs on 7, it should work fine on 8 as well. But if it does not, .exe file that runs game requires some tweaking. But it is ''illegal'' to mess with such files in one sense.
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Xda-developers forum member Chainfire has released an impressive new graphics utility for Android called Chainfire3D. He describes it as an “intermediary OpenGL driver” which can change commands sent from an app to your graphics driver. That allows you to do things like play games that require a specific graphics driver on unsupported hardware. But that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Here are a few things Chainfire3D can do:
NightMode reduces the number of colors on your display to save battery life on an OLED screen or make a screen easier to view in low-light settings.
Reduce texture resolutions by half, which can reduce memory use and improve performance when rendering 3D graphics.
Convert 32-bit textures to lower quality 16-bit textures.
Use plugins to emulate NVIDIA Tegra 2, PowerVR, or ATI graphics and report to the Android Market that your phone has that hardware (so you can download apps that normally require Tegra 2, for instance).
In order to use Chainfire3D you’ll need a rooted phone with a 1 GHz or faster processor. The software has been tested on a number of phones including the Samsung Galaxy S, Motorola Atrix 4G, Motorola Droid 2, and Google Nexus S.
Some games may not play properly even with Chainfire3D installed, and there’s a chance that you won’t get the same kind of graphics performance that you would with a real NVIDIA Tegra2 processor, but many users are reporting that they’re not seeing any real problems with Tegra-specifica games running on non-Tegra devices.
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http://mobiputing.com/2011/05/chainfire3d-graphics-driver-for-android-can-boost-graphics-performance-reduce-battery-drain/
Description
!! Android 2.1 and newer, NOT for Honeycomb !!
Chainfire3D is an intermediary OpenGL driver. What does that mean? It means that Chainfire3D sits between your apps and the graphics drivers, and can intercept and/or change commands between the two. It has some built-in functions, and can be further extended with plugins to provide extra functionality.
!! Chainfire3D is for 1ghz+ devices only !!
!! ROOT is required for this program, as well as a writable /system partition. S-OFF is also required on HTC devices !!
Features include reducing texture size and quality to reduce memory use and potentially increase game performance, as well as increasing memory use potentially increase performance.
Be sure to check the thread on XDA for available plugins !
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427 )
Chainfire3D has been tested on:
- HTC HD2
- Samsung Galaxy S
- Samsung Galaxy Tab 7"
- Samsung Galaxy S II
- Samsung Epic 4G
- Motorola Atrix 4G
- Motorola Droid 2
- LG Optimus 2X
- Google Nexus S
It's likely to work on far more devices. So far nobody has reported a failed install, so that's good. Doesn't mean problems can't happen.
!! There is some risk involved installing the driver. If you have CWM, it would be prudent to create a backup before installing !!
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https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.cf3d
Anyone try it on their G2 yet? Seems like it could help boost performance a bit.
Just installed it but I don't really see any difference in performance... ran Nenamark and still got the same fps.
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Just installed it but I don't really see any difference in performance... ran Nenamark and still got the same fps.
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Did you set it up to drop the image quality for that specific app (or drop the quality in the global settings)? Not doubting your knowledge but we all do things like that at times
Anyway, as far as running and not causing any fc's that I've seen over the past 24 hours the drivers are stable. As far as working, I guess we'll just have to do some more testing.
I DLed this last night and have not had any FCs. I have the CF3d driver installed but no options checked. I will need to play some games and play with settings to se what this does for or phones. Anybody gory any suggestions for games to try?
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Uhm... to try the tegra games i have to buy the pro version to fix the market so i can download the games?
I don't know about pro-vs-free for tegra games but you need plugins to make it work regardless. They're attached at the bottom of the post in the link. Credit goes to the op.
http://forum.samdroid.net/f10/chainfire-3d-5081/
Everything is working perfectly. Thanks for the plugin tip.
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Samurai ii works great with the nvidia plug in, no need for any other settings
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Really cool. Just keeps freezing when playing tegra games
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I don't know about pro-vs-free for tegra games but you need plugins to make it work regardless. They're attached at the bottom of the post in the link. Credit goes to the op.
http://forum.samdroid.net/f10/chainfire-3d-5081/
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Already installed the nvidia plugin, but i can't find the games on the market
(freee version)
Victorino86 said:
Already installed the nvidia plugin, but i can't find the games on the market
(freee version)
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Did you hit the fix market button after installing the plugin? I can't remember if you can or not in the free version. That did it for me.
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Did you hit the fix market button after installing the plugin? I can't remember if you can or not in the free version. That did it for me.
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Can't do it on free version :/
Hi!
I just heard about Windows 8 and i have Two questions.
Does Windows 7 applications runt on this?
And Can you upgrade from Windows 7?
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Hi!
I just heard about Windows 8 and i have Two questions.
Does Windows 7 applications runt on this?
And Can you upgrade from Windows 7?
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I solved this myself!
If you wan't links i can't post them so pm me for them!
the answer for everyone else is yes and yes and for the most part drivers from windows 7 also work.
EDIT: apps will be lost but settings and files will be kept.
Some stuff you need to right click and choose compatiblity mode.
FYI the windows phone emulator does some freaky **** to win8 so don't try running it, you've been warned.
Ok thanks!
My installation is stuck on 33%
What should i do?
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But windows 8 is not out yet?
You can download a developers preview. Looks quite nice.
Still stuck on 33%...
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Would you recommend trying Windows 8 developers preview or should I wait until the official release.
I think it is awesome try it!
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what could prevent you from trying?
Install it in a virtual machine for easy installing and easy deleting
OR
create an extra partition and install it there for a realistic performance impression.
win8 is nice but feels more like a mobile phone os than one geared for computers. tied too closely to the ms live services as well, did not like that it would change my live messenger picture when i changed my login image on win8.
if you have a touch screen pc (like the aio's) then this might be more practical, but it doesn't seem to be intended for mouse and keyboard use.
Windows 8 is for the most part, pretty similar to Windows 7.
Most applications and drivers will work.
But so far here's a mini list of applications that aren't working for anyone:
- AIM
- Combat Arms
- Maple Story
(yeah it's a really bad list but hey XD)
How did you manage to upgrade from Windows 7? I don't have the option on Windows 7 Professional.
first. there are some apps which from win7 can not run in win 8.
second. you cant upgrade to win 8 from win 7.
finally. win 8 is great. but it is not stable with some kind of hardware. you should install both win 7 and win 8 to have the best in working and getting exp
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Windows 8 is for the most part, pretty similar to Windows 7.
Most applications and drivers will work.
But so far here's a mini list of applications that aren't working for anyone:
- AIM
- Combat Arms
- Maple Story
(yeah it's a really bad list but hey XD)
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add Samsung Kies ;-)
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I tried out Windows 8 about a month ago and felt that it was a decent experience. Unfortunately for me though it wouldnt find the driver for my wireless card (WRT54GS) so I ended up uninstalling it.
Maybe its me but I don't see the big deal about it. I didnt really use the metro UI and the new changes to explorer didnt make or break the experience, it was just meh.
I'm tempted to try it but having issues with drivers and stuff is too annoying lol.
Hi all!
Well I'm running W8 dev installed in host (not virual) and it works great on my 6 years old computer.
I think it's awesome, it takes lots of memory but it wors so fast.
I was running w7 x86 before trying this and it was quite slow for my comp also for playing (league of legends around 25-30fps). Now I'm running w8 64 and it has been improved from 30-40fps (my graphic card is quite old). Maybe cause it's 64 instead of 32 bits?
My comp is an AMD athlon 64 3800 x2, 2GB DDR, 320GB SATA and nVidia 7800 GT CO
Anyway I recommend for everyone to try it, I've been using it a week from now and I think it's awesome but there're some apps that doesn't works at all of the Metro UI such as Socialité and the Weather app
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i installed win8 on my laptop. It is using similar resources to win7.
Win8 is great, but its still very buggy (pretty good for a pre beta)
I am sure it change a lot from now till the release date, but at least we get a picture of what to expect.
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Is anyone having issues with Google Chrome, where it is constantly freezing and having issues with flash? Also I have tried running it in compatibility mode and it seems to be having the same problems.
This may be what is freezing my system every 30 or so minutes.
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Is anyone having issues with Google Chrome, where it is constantly freezing and having issues with flash? Also I have tried running it in compatibility mode and it seems to be having the same problems.
This may be what is freezing my system every 30 or so minutes.
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I'm sorry, but I think it's something to do with your computer. I run Google Chrome 19.0.1084.52 on Windows Release Preview and everything's running completely fine.
I have no problems with it. Runs fine.
Me too have google chrome and dont have any problem with it
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My system is also freezing every 20 minutes or so. Also have chrome installed. But I am not sure, if it is related.
I think your computer is stop because display driver is not full installation
Sure that you display card driver is installed correctly because i was have same problem but when install nividia driver for windows 8 i dont have any problem
And make sure you are install flash player for non-IE & IE and NOTE 32bit or 64bit
You can visit this web and download flash player
filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_ie
And at down you see related downloads to choose 32bit&64bit
Hope i helped you
Thnx&bye
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I think your computer is stop because display driver is not full installation
Sure that you display card driver is installed correctly because i was have same problem but when install nividia driver for windows 8 i dont have any problem
And make sure you are install flash player for non-IE & IE and NOTE 32bit or 64bit
You can visit this web and download flash player
filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_ie
And at down you see related downloads to choose 32bit&64bit
Hope i helped you
Thnx&bye
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I had freezes too when using chrome, installing the graphics card drivers, neither does installing the drivers for the gpu build in to the CPU.
I'm now running it in a virtual machine again and chrome works just fine.
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nsilverman15 said:
Is anyone having issues with Google Chrome, where it is constantly freezing and having issues with flash? Also I have tried running it in compatibility mode and it seems to be having the same problems.
This may be what is freezing my system every 30 or so minutes.
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mine too!
I am having the same issue with chrome around every 30 mins freezing.
I bet it's an Adobe Flash & Nvidia issue. Put any flash video in fullscreen and you'll get the freezes in no time. Most of comments about this issue I've read are from Nvidia users. Reminds me of another flash issue with some Ati HD5XXX series in Win7.
Definitely not flash. I don't have flash installed and have freezes. Problem is, that now I have freezes also while browsing with IE.
Have nvidia though.
martan1981 said:
I don't have flash installed and have freezes.
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Yes you do:
http://flashdaily.net/post/24185634788/windows-release-preview-with-flash-11
findele said:
I bet it's an Adobe Flash & Nvidia issue. Put any flash video in fullscreen and you'll get the freezes in no time. Most of comments about this issue I've read are from Nvidia users. Reminds me of another flash issue with some Ati HD5XXX series in Win7.
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Not just nVidia, i had the same problems with my AMD hd6970 (with win8 preview drivers) too
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Also don't have any problems running chrome on the release preview.
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Also don't have any problems running chrome on the release preview.
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GPU?
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I have freezes while using Chrome and Firefox too.
I think it's not related to the graphics driver because AMD and Nvidia Users have these issues.
Do you have an Intel Sandy Bridge Processor? (Core-i3/i5/i7)
In any user report which I read till now, the system has one of these processors or relating chipsets inside.
So I think this problem is probably related to some Intel drivers.
I don't have sandy bridge. I have dual core Intel in mac mini late 2009.
i am having the same issues as well. if i uninstall chrome, will it stop freezing?
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i am having the same issues as well. if i uninstall chrome, will it stop freezing?
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No. They say in another forum that installing Win7 drivers for Nvidia GPU instead of stock ones fixes the freezing. I hace not tested it yet though.
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I have freezes while using Chrome and Firefox too.
I think it's not related to the graphics driver because AMD and Nvidia Users have these issues.
Do you have an Intel Sandy Bridge Processor? (Core-i3/i5/i7)
In any user report which I read till now, the system has one of these processors or relating chipsets inside.
So I think this problem is probably related to some Intel drivers.
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Im pretty sure is the new Adobe "Mini-Flash Player" they enbedded into the OS. As you know flash uses gpu acceleration, and gpu drivers dont seem to come along very well with it. I hope Nvidia fixes it with their new drivers because I dont have any faith that Adobe will fix anything at all.
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Hi,
I have had a problem with my laptop for a couple of weeks but it used to be like this when i was on windows 7. I have a compaq presario CQ60 214-em it is a 1.70GHZ intel celeron dual core and 3gb ram and also running consumer preview windows 8 . My problem is from time to time my computer gets very slow and sometimes very fast (like now) sometime when i click on the metro apps for example the email app it hangs on the it boot screen and then goes back to the start same with other apps. i had a look in the task manager when my laptop gets slow and the processor is running at a speed of 0.20 ghz?? and the cpu usage is mostly in the 90's % but when it is running fast it is usually using the full 1.70Ghz .
I was also thinking about going to Windows 8 RTM and do a fresh install but I am looking on torrent sites and it looks like people are having trouble activating. I have included a screenshot for your attention
If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Thanks in advance.
Can anyone help please?
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Suggest getting the Enterprise Trial version and try that. It's good for 90 days. You're running an old beta, so the first step is to get the latest code. After that, you're on your own.
BTW, it's dumb to talk of torrenting the RTM on a public forum. The only thing worse than cocktail pirates are ones who can't troubleshoot their own PCs.
Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
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Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
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at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
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at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
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Most likely running under vnc
yep!! chrooted and vnc'ed into it.
everything seems smooth... except when unmounting
May have to give this a try
I can upload my script if it helps.
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I can upload my script if it helps.
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There are several apps such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid which automate the process of setting it up. Might be worth checking out for anyone interested.
nicely done!
Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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Weird... I'm not quite sure how that would work - you'd be multitasking the OSes.. which is brutal.
Oh well, time to do a little digging.
We need a native port of Ubuntu because this will transform our tablet into a more productive product then tablets with Win8 .
An alternative would be "Ubuntu for Android", but again, is not available.
The VNC thing is lacking pressure sensitive controls, the protocol does not support this.
how to install？
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Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
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the note runs a ARM image of ubuntu, using chroot and VNC into it (localhost or127.0.0.1).
it would be pretty pointless to show it running off a pc.
So based on my understanding, you installed ubuntu on your galaxy note 10.1 (which runs in parallel with the android OS) and the only way to access it is through VNC at the local port? Is my understanding correct?
If yes, does this run GIMP like other ARM linux devices?, cause this might make me want to buy a note 10.1 more (Still on the fence since I can only buy it on December). Could you also post the resource links/scripts so that other members with their notes can try? I'd also like to ask how is the performance over VNC? Does it lag a bit?
You can install GIMP and other apps that are not architecture dependent. However it is not for everyday use as it is rather slow. I haven't tried image editing yet. Vnc doesn't support pen pressure and all that.
I will upload the script once I clean it up a bit and plug a few holes
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how to install？
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Easiest way is this app, it has links to prebuilt ARM images and all that good stuff.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Anyway, for people who are confused, all chroot does is essentially let you start up Ubuntu userspace stuff on top of the Android kernel, since it's just a Linux kernel anyway. The main benefit is to be able to run any ARM linux software, although graphical stuff is fairly useless because currently there isn't any complete port of X11 to Android so you have to use VNC to run graphical stuff which becomes generally pretty slow no matter the device. You can also SSH into the Ubuntu install which I find more useful for eg. running a web server development environment, or just to have git/ssh/other proper Linux utilities rather than having to use busybox stuff. Personally I think the most useful thing is if you're a vim/emacs user and have a bluetooth keyboard, you can get a lot of work done that way. My emacs-fu is weak so I haven't really used it that much to be honest.
So the performance with gui sucks as of now. Oh well I'll just wait for the official ubuntu OS to be available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
Based on initial data, these are the system requirements:
According to Canonical a phone needs the following requirements:[6]
Dual-core 1 GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; OpenGL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2 GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video-out with secondary framebuffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM
Hope someone ports the official builds on the ubuntu phones and makes compatible drivers for the wacom and touchscreen.