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Some people regard the Note as being too big to be used as a phone and too small to be used as a tablet. Of course, neither is true because the Note is the most versatile mobile device ever made. The days of having to own a small mobile phone where the screen is too small to be practicable and a tablet which is too big to carry around are over. Thank you Samsung.
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It,s probably the best thing ever done as yo it,s many functions. It,s a great smartphone light and thin with the biggest screen and amazing performance, it has an amazing battery life considering it's hugeness. It's a great ebook using aldiko, it's a fantastic media player for music, video and photos on it's own screen and on tv with hdmi. The quality of the camera is close yo the iphone 4s if not best. The video recording is simply great and of course it is better that any gps navigator you can buy since it positioning technology is the fastest i've ever seen. No doubt this phone is the gadget of the year
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
The size is a personal thing,for me its perfect for both as a phone and a tablet.
J had a Galaxy 10.1 it put a big stress on my arm,to use it I had to lift my arm all the time,so I gave it to my wife a Cello player.
Now with my GNote I sit for hours surfing the net without any stress since I just use my fingers to operate the entire device without lifting an arm,this is even more obvious when I play chess in long sessions,so can't be more happier with the size.
I agree. Its the best phone I have ever used. The huge screen is really an advantage in all aspects.
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I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
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Amen! I'm with you in every thing you said, except fot the VPN wich I don't know what is it lol...
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I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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Thats fake picture and SGS3 will come as 4.65" as I guess. There are no real leaked picture of SGS 3 yet and all just guessing.
http://www.androidcentral.com/not-samsung-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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5,3" is good for surf/video and thats the most important I got the Note for.
S-Pen is a plus and handy if wanna write some short notes to what to buy, since I always forget something at stores, after i got home.
Tab is too big too carry along and 4,3" phone (or whatever size) is just too small for surf/video. Also carry 2 device is not funny.
The Notes 5,3" is perfect and u get 2in1 hybrid device to carry with u.
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It replaces mobile, tab and PC to an extent. And then, it replaces pen and paper!
(and, camera, music, navigation too but that's given)
eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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If that phone were real, I would buy it the instant it was available, and I'd pay $1500 for it without batting an eye. That is my dream device. The only thing I'd want different is for the stylus to be stored onboard. Unfortunately, it's just a concept.
CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
romac said:
How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
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For me; pocketability
I agree... Sammy got it right.
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drgopoos said:
For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
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Ha ha ha! True.
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Any artists out there looking to get this tablet? I am debating between this and my infinity. Biggest factor of course is the S-Pen. the only thing the infinity has going for it is a third party stylus, the Adonit Jot Touch, a bluetooth enabled stylus with pressure sensitivity.
NOTE: If any of you who already have a Note can provide a screenshot of a quick sketch that would be incredible.
I picked up the Note 10.1 to use mostly for sketches. I was planning on doing a proper artist review of the thing when I get a chance, but that could be a week out since I'm in the process of moving and taking a drawing class on top of my normal responsibilities.
You should know that the Jot Touch does not support Android yet. I have one which I use on the iPad. It's pretty good, but the s-pen is far superior.
Also, I'm not convinced the s-pen has 1024 levels of pressure. I believe it has 256 and Samsung is mistaken. At this point there's no way to prove it without some developer writing a little test app.
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Great man! i still have 2 weeks on my return window, anxiously awaiting your sketches.
I asked this in another thread but since you guys are artists you may know. It might also explain the pressure sensitivity question.
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Maybe you can answer a question. I found this second OEM stylus on a site. It's supposed to have an eraser funtion on the other end of the pen in addition to being used just for input. In the description which is vague, it says "8PI." The included S-Pen says "6.5PI." What does PI mean and does a higher number mean the optional pen is more granular?
Included: GALAXY NOTE 10.1IN S PEN 6.5PI FOR BUILT-IN PEN SLOT
Optional: GALAXY 10.1 NOTE BLACK S PEN 8PI 2 PLASTIC 2EA 3 RUBBER 3EA TOOL
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I also found a link to the pen with the eraser.
http://www.gearzap.com/official-samsung-s-pen-with-eraser-for-galaxy-note-10-1.html
Jonphinguyen7 said:
Any artists out there looking to get this tablet? I am debating between this and my infinity. Biggest factor of course is the S-Pen. the only thing the infinity has going for it is a third party stylus, the Adonit Jot Touch, a bluetooth enabled stylus with pressure sensitivity.
NOTE: If any of you who already have a Note can provide a screenshot of a quick sketch that would be incredible.
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I'm hoping to get my note 10.1 monday. I'll upload a picture (if they let me being a noob) and give my thoughts. For comparison I do have an Intous 4.
I'm a 3D animation student and am looking forward to creating storyboards/artwork in my note Will post finding when I get my device.. (I fear that it will be monday at it's soonest)
Here are some thumbnails I was working on for a still life. Just quick stuff. Maybe a minute each. The overall experience with snote is pretty good. The drawing tools are a little bare, but its not bad.
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Here are some thumbnails I was working on for a still life. Just quick stuff. Maybe a minute each. The overall experience with snote is pretty good. The drawing tools are a little bare, but its not bad.
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Looks traditional which is pretty cool and this was simply s note? Have you tried sketchbook pro yet?
Also I got my tracking information and should be getting my Note 10.1 tomorrow. So i'll have some feed back as well.
not sure where pressure sensitivity is in sketchbook express, but here are some quick thoughts: I'm writing this on the note 10.1 itself (the handwriting recog is surprisingly capable if you figure out what settings suit you and l write hard-to-read cursive) 1. pen doesn't lag but apps do 2. photoshop touch is crap for drawing, SERIOUSLY. The brush settings are pretty horrible and I could not get it to produce an ink like line that didn't look ****ty and pixellated. If you just want to paint blobs, ok. It can do that . 3. infinite painter is an option, layer paint is neat with a water brush tool like SAI's but you have to be at 100% zoom for it not to lag. I kind of like that one the best for sketch / painting purposes, 4. The tablet is fast and responsive, I don't care about the multiscreen thing and haven't Tested it. 5. it is definitely only capable of being a tablet which you can sketch for fun on,which is all l expected it to do, so I'm pretty happy and keeping my 32 gb version. This isn't a professional tool by any means. . 6. l hope better drawing apps come out, though. l just wanted something small with great battery life to replace my ancient tablet pc but no way will it replace my desktop and Cintiq combo. However as an on-the-go sketchpad it's fine if you can deal with the ghett o apps. 7. All penabled pens l tested work so far and it feels just like TPC pressure though that could be a software issue. 8. After testing like a million apps I had no time to actually draw anything, haha Someone see if sketchbook works with pressure and let me know Cheers!
spartan1132 said:
Looks traditional which is pretty cool and this was simply s note? Have you tried sketchbook pro yet?
Also I got my tracking information and should be getting my Note 10.1 tomorrow. So i'll have some feed back as well.
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This was just snote. I played with
Sketchbook Pro and it's fine too.
fishgimp said:
not sure where pressure sensitivity is in sketchbook express, but here are some quick thoughts: I'm writing this on the note 10.1 itself (the handwriting recog is surprisingly capable if you figure out what settings suit you and l write hard-to-read cursive) 1. pen doesn't lag but apps do 2. photoshop touch is crap for drawing, SERIOUSLY. The brush settings are pretty horrible and I could not get it to produce an ink like line that didn't look ****ty and pixellated. If you just want to paint blobs, ok. It can do that . 3. infinite painter is an option, layer paint is neat with a water brush tool like SAI's but you have to be at 100% zoom for it not to lag. I kind of like that one the best for sketch / painting purposes, 4. The tablet is fast and responsive, I don't care about the multiscreen thing and haven't Tested it. 5. it is definitely only capable of being a tablet which you can sketch for fun on,which is all l expected it to do, so I'm pretty happy and keeping my 32 gb version. This isn't a professional tool by any means. . 6. l hope better drawing apps come out, though. l just wanted something small with great battery life to replace my ancient tablet pc but no way will it replace my desktop and Cintiq combo. However as an on-the-go sketchpad it's fine if you can deal with the ghett o apps. 7. All penabled pens l tested work so far and it feels just like TPC pressure though that could be a software issue. 8. After testing like a million apps I had no time to actually draw anything, haha Someone see if sketchbook works with pressure and let me know Cheers!
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Sketchbook Pro has pressure sensitivity. It has to be enabled in the settings. I'm not sure if it's available in Express, but it works good in Pro.
I generally like infinite painter, but it isn't optimized for this large tablet and is crashing constantly.
I'll check out layer paint too.
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little sketch I did in sketchbook pro...it doesn't have pressure sensitivity yet, but I prefer it over PS touch and S-Note....the palm rejection works really well, and the s-pen is really precise...I had a transformer prime and I used a Bamboo stylus with it, but ithe s-pen is miles ahead, and the tablet is smoother and less buggy
gol-D said:
little sketch I did in sketchbook pro...it doesn't have pressure sensitivity yet, but I prefer it over PS touch and S-Note....the palm rejection works really well, and the s-pen is really precise...I had a transformer prime and I used a Bamboo stylus with it, but ithe s-pen is miles ahead, and the tablet is smoother and less buggy
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It does have pressure sensitivity, but you have to turn it on in the settings.
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Here's how you enable pressure in Sketchbook Pro.
http://db.tt/nzKPPR6T
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cmunho said:
It does have pressure sensitivity, but you have to turn it on in the settings.
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Here's how you enable pressure in Sketchbook Pro.
http://db.tt/nzKPPR6T
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oooh thanks I searched only in the brush settings
Now if only we could get MyPaint to run on Android... or maybe Ubuntu on Note 10.1.
Magnesus said:
Now if only we could get MyPaint to run on Android... or maybe Ubuntu on Note 10.1.
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I was already researching this possibility, but I've given up hope for now.
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Wow it seems pretty awesome. My prime also had squiggly line issues, but the infinity doesn't... I guess the only difference is the pressure sensitivity and HD screen.
In for more sketch inspiration.
I was about to get the new Cintiq 22HD but I couldn't justify the price for the actual amount of artwork I do. I wanted the Note to be the end all be all of Tablets but like someone posted above its strong points is data input whether it be sketches, notes etc. My IPad will have to continue to be my media consumption device.
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trineomorph said:
My IPad will have to continue to be my media consumption device.
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Why? Just because of the greater resolution?
Just bought LayerPaint by Nattou.org
Wow. It's a pretty awesome inking experience if you can get over the big UI. It's minimal, but lines are much faster than Sketchbook Pro.
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I was about to get the new Cintiq 22HD but I couldn't justify the price for the actual amount of artwork I do. I wanted the Note to be the end all be all of Tablets but like someone posted above its strong points is data input whether it be sketches, notes etc. My IPad will have to continue to be my media consumption device.
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Have you considered the Yiynova 10.1?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZR4CFiQEsU
The reviews I've read sound promising. But, it's still something I have to plug into my laptop. I'm gonna stop by Best Buy to try out the Note 10.1. Samsung's promo made it sound like PS Touch was the $h!+, but from this thread, it sounds like that may not be the case.
How is the speed and responsiveness? I tried out the Note (the phone) in the store while it had Gingerbread, and the response was just too slow for my taste (as in I would draw one stroke, and it would appear like a half second later). Would like to see how the 10.1 w/ ICS and quad-core Exynos does in comparison.
Alright. I've been playing with a Series 5 hybrid for a couple of hours now. This is a quick review with 2 pictures showing both units together (sorry for the grain in the pictures; I'll take better ones with my DSLR once I have more time), since some of the Note 10.1 owners might be interested in this particular model due to the Wacom digitizer and the S-Pen. It costs $649 (Staples is selling it for $599 at the moment).
First of all, the built quality is great. Yes, it has the same polycarbonate back panel as Note 10.1 and it moves little bit if you press on it in the center (which is not part of the typical tablet use scenario), but it feels really solid and not flimsy. Probably little better than Note 10.1, due to the fact that the back is one piece and wraps around the screen nicely and having less plastic parts merging into each other creates less movement and creaks. The full glass front with the integrated speakers on each side works very well.
The Series 5 hybrid is definitely designed for a landscape use. It's too narrow and awkward if you hold it in portrait mode. The thickness is similar to Note 10.1 and it doesn't feel particularly heavier. It comes with a power block (very similar to what you get with laptops), so while traveling, that will add some extra weight.
The stylus is smaller than the one that comes with Note 10.1. (it's slightly chubbier), and it's white. I played with S-Note for a while and it works very similar to what we have on the Note. Palm rejection may not be as accurate as on the Note 10.1, because after writing few sentences, there were 3-4 small lines under my hand where it was resting on the screen.
As for the performance of the Atom, it feels perfectly fine for browsing, e-mail, etc. I haven't noticed any lag while navigating from screen to screen, but when installing programs, moving to something else took a bit extra. It includes a 64GB SSD, but out of the box it has 34GB free. The screen on the Note 10.1 is more brighter compared to Series 5. I would say the resolution is similar in terms of sharpness, pixellation, etc. Since the labels are a lot more smaller in the desktop mode (see below), you can see the pixels in the letters under icons.
Unfortunately, it doesn't come with a preview of Office 2013 that was going to be upgraded to full version when released (this was mentioned for RT devices, but I remember reading it somewhere for the X-86 tablets, as well). It doesn't include Office 2010 either (you have to buy/install it separately). Since office 2010 is not touch optimized, using the stylus is a must. From this aspect, it feels like it was rushed to meet the Windows 8 launch date. This is a mistake on Microsoft's and Samsung's part, because the X86 machines are marketed as "productivity oriented" models as opposed to the Windows RT models, and the lack of touch-optimized Office suite takes away from it significantly. You can use Office 2010 on it without any problems in terms of functionality, but it's not tablet/touch optimized, and you'll definitely need that stylus.
This is my first encounter with Windows 8, so part of the learning curve is due to Windows 8 itself. Although, it's very easy and enjoyable to use it in the tablet mode, I find myself hitting that "Desktop" tile and using it as a "regular" computer. Over time, I'll probably move away from this habit. Once you are at the Desktop, you become aware of what's running in the background and it's a full Windows on a 11.6" screen. I thought the navigation would be a problem without the stylus, but it works OK, even though things look a bit small. After spending few minutes with it, you immediately realize that you're in Windows territory (pop up windows from Norton, security update reminders, restart reminders after installing the updates, etc.).
As of know, it feels more like a "computer" rather than a "tablet" if that makes any sense. Until I spend about a week with both, I won't form any opinions. I wish Office 2013 was included, since it's one of the most important factors for people considering an X-86 based tablet.
Let me know if you have any questions. Once I have some time, I'll make a more detailed side-by-side comparison of both tablets and add some more pictures.
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Thanks, looks cool.
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for these to ripen in the marketplace for 6 months or so before I consider anything seriously. Once I do I will get either a 13.3" or 15" convertible ultrabook, 15" preferred and use it as a true laptop replacement.
As a tablet I would find having the tall skinny portrait mode disturbing I think. I greatly prefer holding my tablet in portrait mode for some reason.
Anyway, hope you enjoy it. So far sounds like you think it's ok but aren't blown away. I think that is the challenge W8 faces. For the premium price, people need to feel blown away. Even though the critics ripped the SGN10.1, users LOVED it and the device was saved, but if users themselves start giving weak reviews of the W8 tablets that will spell big trouble.
Thanks for the mini-review. Do you by chance have Photoshop? I'm curious how the Atom processor handles it.
It's bigger than I thought. I also never thought about what you mentioned in using it in portrait mode. Is Windows S-Note a program in the control panel and are Android and W8 S-Note's compatible? Being able to share my Note's S-Note's via the desktop would be huge for me. Play some HD movies and games on it. I'm curious to see how the new Atom holds up without a discrete GPU. By all means share your experiences. I and I'm sure others are interested.
thanks for the quick thoughts. I'm interested in the series 7 version of the tablet which should be similar but faster than this one.
fella1 said:
thanks for the quick thoughts. I'm interested in the series 7 version of the tablet which should be similar but faster than this one.
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Actually the series 7 (with core i3 /i5 ) isnt the same , it is thicker , larger and have ugly cooling fins at the back (core i5 gets really hot ) and they start at double the price (1500$ for WiFi only core i3 ) and the camera has no flash also
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Thanks, looks cool.
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for these to ripen in the marketplace for 6 months or so before I consider anything seriously. Once I do I will get either a 13.3" or 15" convertible ultrabook, 15" preferred and use it as a true laptop replacement.
As a tablet I would find having the tall skinny portrait mode disturbing I think. I greatly prefer holding my tablet in portrait mode for some reason.
Anyway, hope you enjoy it. So far sounds like you think it's ok but aren't blown away. I think that is the challenge W8 faces. For the premium price, people need to feel blown away. Even though the critics ripped the SGN10.1, users LOVED it and the device was saved, but if users themselves start giving weak reviews of the W8 tablets that will spell big trouble.
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Yeah, I'm not blown away by it, for sure. It seems more and more that I'll be waiting for v2 as well.
jedah said:
Thanks for the mini-review. Do you by chance have Photoshop? I'm curious how the Atom processor handles it.
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I'll install it later tonight and see what happens, but don't get your hopes up (see below).
BarryH_GEG said:
It's bigger than I thought. I also never thought about what you mentioned in using it in portrait mode. Is Windows S-Note a program in the control panel and are Android and W8 S-Note's compatible? Being able to share my Note's S-Note's via the desktop would be huge for me. Play some HD movies and games on it. I'm curious to see how the new Atom holds up without a discrete GPU. By all means share your experiences. I and I'm sure others are interested.
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Yes, it's definitely bigger than I thought as well, especially when you put the Note 10.1 on top of it. I like the overall design of the Series 5 better than the Note 10.1 (more streamlined and clean), but the portrait mode is really awkward. It might be good for taking long notes, but I can't see any other use for it. After reading your post, I tried to find a way to export the notes from the S-Notes, but the only option was jpeg. I'll look into the file structure and try to open them on Note 10.1. The S-Note is a program in the control panel. For some reason, the S-Note feels sluggish. Opening and saving notes take a bit longer than Note 10.1. For instance, the "S-Note tips" file took a while to load, and when opened, moving from page to page was very slow (i.e., "hit the right arrow, wait 2 seconds, page #2 is delivered, and so on for the remaining 5 pages). The exact same file on the Note 10.1 flies. In addition, there's no "page turn animation" on the Windows version.
I haven't played any games other than the Plants vs. Zombies that's included (trial version). By the way, the game played in its own window and there was no way to play it full screen, which was annoying.
One thing that I was really skeptical was the Atom processor, and unfortunately, it interferes with the usage of the tablet often enough to remind you that you are using a device with a slow processor. Just to test it out, while Windows update was running in the background, I started Windows Movie maker and imported 4, 3-4 minute long 720p files from my digital camera. It took a while to add the movies to the "Project" and once a timeline formed, I hit "Play" to preview the movie. The small video playback was stuttering. Then I hit the full screen button on the preview window, it was painful to watch the processor trying to keep up with background installation of updates and ongoing video playback. I tried the same thing without any background processes running; the small preview window was better, but full screen continued to stutter.
I'll keep testing it with some other tasks, but so far it seems underpowered.
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thanks for the quick thoughts. I'm interested in the series 7 version of the tablet which should be similar but faster than this one.
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Based on what I've observed so far, Series 7 might be a better choice for people who wants to have full Windows 8 in a tablet form. It won't be an option for me because of the weight, thickness and the price point. As long as you don't push the processor, Atom works fine for "general" stuff, but anything "extra" shows its shortcomings.
Hey man, really appreciate you going out of your way to give us this comparison, much welcomed
Hope im not out of line in asking, if its possible to get some of the things you've mentioned, on video, if its not a bother that is
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I tried to find a way to export the notes from the S-Notes.
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They're "snb" files (on the Android Samsung Note's). Use Astro or ES Explorer to upload them from your Note to Dropbox and see if the Ativ is able to open, read, and edit them. If it is, and there's a program in Control Panel, we should finally be able to use and edit S-Notes from the Note on a PC. I'm guessing the S-Note for W8 app is on the backup and restore CD. Thanks for the time you're spending on this.
Thanks for your quick review.
I'm considering this tablet.
Can you test some 1080p mkvs with the S Player?
How do other players (vlc,.....) work on this atom processor?
please test adobe illustrator CS5, Thank you very much.
Its has RT version of Windows CS5 or for that any other legacy windows applications will not work on it
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Its has RT version of Windows CS5 or for that any other legacy windows applications will not work on it
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No, it's running full Windows 8, and I already installed Adobe Design and Web Premium CS6.
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They're "snb" files (on the Android Samsung Note's). Use Astro or ES Explorer to upload them from your Note to Dropbox and see if the Ativ is able to open, read, and edit them. If it is, and there's a program in Control Panel, we should finally be able to use and edit S-Notes from the Note on a PC. I'm guessing the S-Note for W8 app is on the backup and restore CD. Thanks for the time you're spending on this.
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I copied one of the .snb files over to the W8 tablet. It's recognized as an S-Note file (the icon is the same), and if I double-tap on it, it attempts to launch the S-Note, but it never passes the "splash screen". If I launch S-Notes, minimize it, and double-tap on the .snb file from Note10.1, it maximizes S-Note, but it doesn't open it. It appears that they are not compatible. Furthermore, sorry for the misinformation; S-Notes is not under the "Uninstall Programs" list in control panel.
It would have been nice to share notes between platforms.
Onenote performance?
tenderidol,
Thank you so much for this comparison (I'm going to hit your thanks button quite a few times, I think ) I want to buy one of these tablets but don't want to decide until I know some more about the Atom performance. So if you have time (you get snowballed with requests, I'm sure) to install Office 2010 and test how OneNote inking performs in a big file (with quite some pictures inserted), a few pdf's open and internet explorer running in the background? I think there are many people interested in whether the Atom will be sufficient for notetaking in big files with some stuff in the background.
BTW, I read on another forum that some people use the extra length in portrait mode for multitasking: one window on top and the other below. Could be useful for copying-pasting things from internet explorer to notes. I think I would prefer 16:10 though.
I have an issue not offence ment to anyone but this forum is for Note and lately all I the post I see are about W8 tablets and nexus 10 to an extent we have reviews of W8 tablets being posted. Need the focus back
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I have an issue not offence ment to anyone but this forum is for Note and lately all I the post I see are about W8 tablets and nexus 10 to an extent we have reviews of W8 tablets being posted. Need the focus back
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Non taken. However, this thread is targeted towards people who currently own Note 10.1 and are -or may be- interested in the Ativ Smart PC due to its stylus, S-Pen and the productivity aspect of it that may not be present in Note 10.1 (e.g., full Office suite, legacy Windows programs, additional ports, etc). The way both tablets are designed, I won't be surprised if most people end up owning both for different purposes. No offense, but the content of these threads are very clear with their titles, and anyone who is not interested about the products being discussed can easily avoid them.
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Thanks for your quick review.
I'm considering this tablet.
Can you test some 1080p mkvs with the S Player?
How do other players (vlc,.....) work on this atom processor?
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I made some mkv movies and played them on the W8 tablet. S-Player did not open the file (it said it was unsupported). Cyberlink Power DVD (non-full, "light" edition) is pre-installed and played the movies perfectly fine without any stutter, sync issues or degradation in audio and/or video performance. Actually, I just played them from the USB stick without transferring to the internal memory. I installed VLC Media Player, and the movies were played without an issue with VLC player, too. I didn't try any other media players. Just to make it clear, I created the movies from my Blu-ray discs using MakeMKV without changing any settings.
As for the other requests, I'll try to answer everything. I already installed the Adobe Suite and will report back on the performance of Photoshop, Illustrator and Dreamweaver, soon. The next will be Office 2010 w/ OneNote (the pre-installed trial doesn't contain OneNote, so I need instal my own copy).
Again did not mean to offend you or anyone nor do i find it offending or bad its I feel that it would help in two ways there would many on this site who would want to know your review on Ativ and if you created a category they would have been able to do the same over here your audience is only limited to note owners secondly as a note owner I come to this thread to get information specific to note and if do others will start doing so and start posting reviews. Let me just give an example if everyone post about each and every tablet in market you will not find a post of not in pages and hence I feel its does not help.
Personally I like what you are doing because I would believe your review then that done by various so called tech sites as they are biased
Hope you understand the point i am trying to make and again this my personal feeling and I am expressing it and in no way forcing it on anyone
Thanks for all the great impressions! Sounds like the atom based unit is a little underpowered. Do you have any comics? I read those a lot on my note in portrait mode and wonder how they would look on the extra long portrait mode of the series 5.
Google has officially announced Android 4.2 with of host new features some of features are updated google now, swpe like keyboard, Multiple Users more to follow
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The camera interface has been completely updated with a new Photo Sphere feature that allows users to take immersive spherical pictures that capture more than a traditional panoramic area
Google’s also packed Android 4.2 with a smarter keyboard that includes a Gesture Typing option, utilizing similar technology to that of Swype. Android dictionaries are now “more accurate and relevant,” claims Google. And, improved text-to-speech capabilities allow for more accurate voice typing.
For Android 4.2 tablets, multiple user accounts have been enabled. This will allow users to share tablets with family and friends whilst pulling data from the correct Google accounts. With multiple accounts, each user has his/her own homescreen, wallpaper, widgets, applications, games, and data. Switching between users is seemless and does not require “logging in and out.”
Android 4.2 Jelly Bean allows users to utilize their bigger screen televisions and monitory with wireless display technology. Connecting a wireless HDMI adapter to any HDMI television will allow mirroring of the device on the television.
When an Android 4.2 device is idle or docked, it moves into Daydream mode. The device will show off photo albums, news from Google currents, and more information as a screensaver.
Google Now has received an update to enable information cards for flights, hotels, restaurant reservations, events, and package delivery. Cards will show up only when necessary. For example, if you’re standing on a transit platform, Google Now will tell you when the next train is supposed to arrive. Movie times, popular photo-taking spots, concerts, stocks, breaking news, translations, and nearby attractions will also be fed to Google Now users.
The Quick Settings menu will be available for Android 4.2 users to allow easy user account switching and power toggles. Quick access to WiFi, Bluetooth, screen rotation, display brightness, battery mode, and airplane mode is available via a button inside of the notifications tray.
Thats all some of the key features of Android 4.2
I know it's not off supported but does Flash still work in 4.2 ?????
Well I do not know to be frank but I do not think it will unfortunately
Sooo.. since this IS the Note 10.1 forum..
Will we ever see this (or 4.1 for that matter) or will we jump right from 4.0.4 to 4.2?
Also, expect iOS 7 to feature their new 'spherical panorama' feature (like their ads for iOS 6 features regular panorama as if they invented it)...
We'll see 4.1 before 4.2, assuming 4.2 ever makes it to such an old device as the Note 10.1.
I wonder if it'll be possible for someone to extract the new keyboard for use on other devices? Or maybe that's just a dumb question, I dunno.
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Will we ever see this (or 4.1 for that matter) or will we jump right from 4.0.4 to 4.2?
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I'm guessing this one's going to be a ways off. The multi-user feature is going to be a bear for any OEM that has a deep overlay like TW or Sense. They each interact with the device by an assigned account so to support multi-user Samsung and HTC are going to have to figure out how to either support multiple Samsung/HTC accounts on a single device or some type of guest access for secondary users that don't have an OEM account. Not a trivial bit of effort.
Note 10.1 is not an old device.
These improvements make we want to jump on the Cyanogenmod Train even more! I might just have to live without S-Note and Peel Smart Remote.
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Note 10.1 is not an old device.
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It's 1 generation removed from the newest. Think TF300/TF700 versus the 201... I know you'll remember that.
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I'm guessing this one's going to be a ways off. The multi-user feature is going to be a bear for any OEM that has a deep overlay like TW or Sense. They each interact with the device by an assigned account so to support multi-user Samsung and HTC are going to have to figure out how to either support multiple Samsung/HTC accounts on a single device or some type of guest access for secondary users that don't have an OEM account. Not a trivial bit of effort.
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Depending on how Samsung and HTC handle that, this may delay updates for their customers even longer. It seems like the distance between "pure" and "skinned" Android experience is getting wider in terms of time line.
Would I want some of those new futures on my Note 10.1. Sure (not all), but not at the expense of TW interface enhancements.
i really don't like the new tablet ui in jelly bean. Certainly not for 10" tablets: the home button in the middle is hard to reach with your thumbs. And there are two bars (navigation and status bar) instead of just one. And it looks ugly too.
I do hope we get this, because i want project butter on the note
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Would I want some of those new futures on my Note 10.1. Sure.
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Pretending we have JB already, there's really not a lot to get excited about.
Multiple User Profiles. Android 4.2 adds the ability to have multiple user profiles on a tablet, meaning you can maintain a firm line of separation between your apps and files and your kid’s apps and files.
I guess how important this is depends on how regularly other people use your tablet. If a couple share a tablet it seems cool. Same thing with letting a kid play with your tablet. If someone needs to use my tablet there's nothing on it I'm hiding so this isn't a big feature (at least for my needs). Most couples I know have their own individual tablets.
Improved Google Now functionality. Google Now was already a killer Jelly Bean feature, and Google’s made it even more handy-dandy with the inclusion of cards containing flight information, restaurant reservations, hotel confirmations, and shipping details. You’ll also find Google Field Trip-esque cards identifying nearby movie times, attractions, photogenic locales, and concerts by your favorite artists.
Everyone on 4.1 will get this update from Play.
360-degree panoramic pictures. Google got sick of waiting for Microsoft to port Photosynth to Android, it seems. The new Photo Share feature lets you take 360-degree, bubble-esque snapshots of the world around you, complete with the ability to instantly upload the images to Google+ or Google Maps.
I don't use 180 degree panaroma's now so adding another 180 degrees doesn't excite me. The stock Android camera isn't something to write home about UI or feature-wise and a lot of Nexus owners replace it with a third party camera from Play.
Gesture Typing. Swype users will already be familiar with what Google’s calling Gesture Typing; the ability to move from letter-to-letter on your virtual keyboard without having to lift a finger, eliminating the need to hunt-and-peck.
Both my devices have it in their OEM keyboards. There's also third party options. Google's may be better. Maybe not.
Miracast support. Once those nifty new Miracast-enabled HDTVs start popping up, they’ll be able to wirelessly mirror the displays of Android 4.2-equipped devices, letting you watch YouTube videos or play games on a big screen on the fly.
Can you say "AllShare Cast?" If I need a dongle I don't care how it's branded.
Thanks for the summary Barry. Seems like we are not really missing much except for the multiple user profiles. As you mentioned, almost every couple -and their childiren- I know have their own individual tablets.
Do you guys think this $400 Nexus will drive down the Note 10.1 price? I'm hoping to buy it for $400 around Black Friday. My fingers remain crossed...
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Thanks for the summary Barry. Seems like we are not really missing much except for the multiple user profiles. As you mentioned, almost every couple -and their childiren- I know have their own individual tablets.
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Multiple users isnt new feature it was avaliable on android 4.1.1http://pocketnow.com/2012/09/17/android-multiple-user-suppor but it needed root to be enabled
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Do you guys think this $400 Nexus will drive down the Note 10.1 price? I'm hoping to buy it for $400 around Black Friday. My fingers remain crossed...
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It'll be interesting to see the affect this has on other tablet manufacturers. Would you pay $399 for a 32GB TF300 with the same display resolution as the Note and second-tier components and features? Other premium tablets with 32GB of memory and fewer features than the N10 are all priced higher. Assuming their original prices were based on cost-of-goods and a reasonable profit I have no idea what other manufacturers will do. I guess their current choices are reduce the price and make no money or quit Android tablets all together. Every manufacturer that makes Android tablets has jumped on the W8 bandwagon in a big way. Maybe they saw this coming?
That could be. However I read that the GN10.1 had huge profit margins, so they should be able to trim that. Plus, as we all know, technology just gets cheaper by the day, so parts will drop in price as well.
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I've seen conjecture that the 12.2 should be great for reading comic books, but has anyone done so? If so, can you relate the 12.2 comic reading to the 10.1 experience? Have had a Toshiba Thrive for nearly 4 years but time to upgrade. Comic book reading (especially getting an entire page on the screen at one time with large enough text to read it) is important to new purchase. Thanks for feedback.
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I've seen conjecture that the 12.2 should be great for reading comic books, but has anyone done so? If so, can you relate the 12.2 comic reading to the 10.1 experience? Have had a Toshiba Thrive for nearly 3 years but time to upgrade. Comic book reading (especially getting an entire page on the screen at one time with large enough text to read it) is important to new purchase. Thanks for feedback.
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Yes, actually I got one two days ago and I'm still wondering if I keep it or not (don't really need a tab). One of the things I did meanwhile was reading comics. I read several of The Walking Dead comics using the free version of ComicRack, holding the tab vertically. This was one of the few things so far where my 5.5" Note 2 really didn't com close to being useful.
The size is just perfect, very crisp image, really good. You can read the whole page perfectly, using 100% of the screen. I used the volume up/down buttons to skip pages so almost didn't have to move at all.
The only problem is that it is a bit heavy to hold that way, but I guess even a 10 tablet would be, or an 8. None is as comfy a a book. Still, the reading experience itself is excellent.
This is my 3rd tablet, which I primarily use for comics.. I have about 10k comics that I store on it.. I started with the Ipad (which I never liked because of the screen shape), then the Transformer, and now this.. and I am in love.. With the Transformer I had to use a rooted app to use up the entire screen.. That's not needed on this..
The day I got it, I put the same comic up on my 12.2 and 10 inch and what a difference.. Brighter, the text is a little crisper and it gave me that little bit of size bump that I've been wanting for the past few years.. Scrolling the Comicrack menus is super smooth and fast..
I'm not sure why I see so many people saying how heavy this thing is.. After reading some reviews originally, I was worried.. But the 12" is just as heavy as my old 10" It's really not heavy or awkward at all.. Unless you read your books while walking down the street I guess..
For me personally, who owns this just for comics, It's as perfect as it gets..
Thanks to you both. The note 12.2 is only a few grams more than the hefty Thrive. Even though I unlock and root everything, I really don't worry about this device because my son doesn't care. He chose an iPhone because of some music syn. app but didn't even want ipad air because of comic reading. He'd never consider any computer but Apple. For a tablet, it's android. His brother (also imac and macbook pro) says his android N4 provides more productivity for his needs than his iPad 3.
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I also had a Thrive, then a Voyo A15 to read comics...As soon as the 64 gig version is available, I am getting this. I also appreciate the comments above...it seems like this is the tablet I have been waiting for. I might just wait for the LTE version just for the Snapdragon, though. I can't wait to read on this thing!
The size is almost a 1:1 for comic book size. I took a photo of my NP12.2 with an actual comic book over the screen and the screen is slightly taller.
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It's easy to read a comic full page with no zooming/scrolling. Even two page spreads are readable in landscape without much zooming/scrolling needed.
I find the comic reading experience is supurb. (Im using Comic Rack). The screen is just beautiful! Perfectly sharp, colors are vivid and nice inky blacks.
An obvious downside is ephasized when you hold the tablet in portrait... it's heavy! Holding it too far toward the bottom puts the full weight on your hands. To me it's a minor gripe... everything is so nice about this tablet that the weight is an easily acceptable trade off.
For extended reading you'll want a reader with good tap controls to prevent a lot ofawkward balancing-while-swiping due to the weight.
Now I pretty much don't want to read comics on anything else.
If the price was $500 and it was marketed solely as a video viewer/comic book reader, i would tell people to run to their closest store. Reading comics on the note pro 12.2 is the best experience i've had on a tablet. No need to fidget with zooming, just read and swipe pages. Everything is bright, colorful and crsip. The weight is not that bad in my opinion, it weighs about the same as a ipad 3.
I had a Nexus 10 before this and both so far has been great for comics, so whichever you get, the Note 10.1 or the Pro, you should love it. For me, larger is better, so the couple of inches does make a difference.
Also, with the $25 Google Play credit you'll receive, get the full version of ComicRack. Best reader out there.
The screen is great and the few graphic novels I have through the Kindle app look outstanding in full screen, it's just a damn shame that the marvel unlimited app is bad and only utilizes half of the screen. Really hope they fix it, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The screen is great and the few graphic novels I have through the Kindle app look outstanding in full screen, it's just a damn shame that the marvel unlimited app is bad and only utilizes half of the screen. Really hope they fix it, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Isn't the marvel unlimited a derivative of the comixology app? That app works fine for me....
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Isn't the marvel unlimited a derivative of the comixology app? That app works fine for me....
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Marvel unlimited is the app for the subscription they offer to their back library as well as comics that have been released a few months back.
That comixology app worked fine, but the unlimited app just doesn't use the whole screen. Not even close, actually. Pretty disappointing that the regular marvel app works properly and the one that requires a subscription of you to use doesn't.
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The screen is great and the few graphic novels I have through the Kindle app look outstanding in full screen, it's just a damn shame that the marvel unlimited app is bad and only utilizes half of the screen. Really hope they fix it, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I was absolutely shocked at how poor the marvel unlimited app looked on here. I'm really disappointed and hope this gets fixed soon as this is a perfect format for the app if it functions properly. I can deal with the bugs that the android version has always had, it usually just requires a few extra clicks to load something a second or third time, but having the scren size look the same on 7 inch or a 12 inch tablet is too much.
Out of curiosity, what other sources do people use for comics? The marvel unlimited account is my only experience with digital comics and I'm enjoying catching up on series that I haven't read in 20 years but I have a hard time seeing people paying $3-$4 per issue for new digital comics. Is this common? or our there other types of subscription services that people use?
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Out of curiosity, what other sources do people use for comics?
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Me, I use comixology and the dark horse app. Comixology's higher definition comics look amazing on the notepro.
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Haven't decided on 12.2 yet but use Perfect Viewer as we have the files already.
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Here is a review that includes showing how comics look on the note pro if someone need to see it in action to help for a decision http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HbnTSojBJtg
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