I was hoping someone could answer a question I have about the possibility of porting from the Desire VT. Both share the same Adreno 200 GPU and also share other similiar traits like being the same pixel size. From older posts I remember people saying it would be more easy to port from one phone to another if the GPU was the same and if the size was similiar so it wouldn't need to be resized. If this is indeed true wouldn't the Desire VT make the best choice to have a working port of sense 4 to our HD2? If anyone can shed some light on this I would greatly appreciate it. Below are some specs of the two devices. Thanks in advance.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_vt-4830.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
Its not the graphics, or the pixel size. We had working acceleration, from what i have heard its Chipset drivers that are the issue so sound and other things will be impossible to port. but i dont know much on the VT to say much about porting from *that* phone
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Actually this will have had the same issues in porting if not more. I am 100% sure unless we have gods for devs that can create libs from nothing
Yeah I recall that not having any libs was the issue the developers was running into. I only thought that since they share the same Adreno 200 GPU that maybe it could allow for a 'slightly' easier port. Also I seen a post here on XDA somewhere and if I remember it correctly a developer "claimed" to have sense 4.0 fully working but was to busy to post further details and said they would after their current project was over. Yes I know it seemed like b.s. but I was still holding onto a bit if hope. lol.
Team Blackouts was the only one that wound up booting, there was another working on it but couldnt boot it up, the phone i believe off the top of my head was the One V which also shares the Adreno 200 or similar specs but yea its all in the Chipset as to where we would get on sense 4.x
Yes I had followed both threads very close. Actually the HTC One V has Adreno 205. Unfortunately for us the QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset thats on the HD2 seems to not been used in quite some time. Plus the HTC Desire as well as the Nexus One, both of which are very closely related to our phone have stopped receiving updates. UHGG!! It was wishful thinking anyway.
I'll just need to cave in and try to get a HTC Desire X. Since its going to be a rather budget friendly phone it looks as though this is my best option to have sense 4. I hope they release it in the states as well though.
i started working on it today...
give me some time to look at it.....:highfive:
edit: this is adreno 200 ,this good
In desire vt thread is written "also included are Device specific files for BravoC, Leo & Passion"
Is leo our hd2?
Yeah it is. Aren't bravo and passion both the Desire? Slightly confused about that bit.
jandeltron said:
In desire vt thread is written "also included are Device specific files for BravoC, Leo & Passion"
Is leo our hd2?
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Could you send me the link to the Desire VT thread? I couldn't seem to find one for it. As someone already answered the HTC HD2 is in fact also called the HTC Leo.
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Yeah it is. Aren't bravo and passion both the Desire? Slightly confused about that bit.
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afaik bravo is the desire, passion is the nexus1.
Nigeldg said:
Yeah it is. Aren't bravo and passion both the Desire? Slightly confused about that bit.
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The Nexus One (codenamed HTC Passion)
cdma Desire/ BravoC
htccraze said:
Could you send me the link to the Desire VT thread? I couldn't seem to find one for it. As someone already answered the HTC HD2 is in fact also called the HTC Leo.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858491
Thanks but I was thinking the Desire VT had its own thread. This is a link to the Desire thread with a port of the Desire VT ROM. Its actually what I came across that made me think it would be possible for our phones to work too. Then when I looked at the specs I thought it might of been our best shot at a working sense 4.0 ROM.
So if i install the desire vt zip it will work, or not?
It will not. mwakious said that they will look into it so please be patient since this can take quite a while to do. When porting a ROM there are
several files that needs to be replaced. Even then there can be many things that could cause it to not boot correctly. Check back in a few days.
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It will not. mwakious said that they will look into it so please be patient since this can take quite a while to do. When porting a ROM there are
several files that needs to be replaced. Even then there can be many things that could cause it to not boot correctly. Check back in a few days.
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this sound's good i'd love to try this on my hd2 hoping its gets better than the blackout one
is any one still working on this
GODISMYCOPILOT said:
is any one still working on this
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you cant be serious
heres how to get ics sense 4.0 really quick
sell your hd2 and buy a phone with ics sense 4 on it
Kameirus said:
you cant be serious
heres how to get ics sense 4.0 really quick
sell your hd2 and buy a phone with ics sense 4 on it
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im only asking 'if' as it seem'd to no update
In all honesty Its not likely it will work for our HD2 but I was thinking since the GPU was the same it might be a little easier for a developer to give it a go. Easier still suggests
its going to be a pretty big undertaking so please be patient. Even if it doesn't work out I think people should still thank mwakious for the time he's looked into it for us.
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Been thinking, now that we know about the Evo and it's running Android with the same screen size and 1ghz processor will this make it easier to port Android to our HD2's ? Think this could be great if so, I know some guys are working on porting Android to the HD2 already but I'm hoping this helps big time.
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Been thinking, now that we know about the Evo and it's running Android with the same screen size and 1ghz processor will this make it easier to port Android to our HD2's ? Think this could be great if so, I know some guys are working on porting Android to the HD2 already but I'm hoping this helps big time.
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Have a look at the Evo thread already running, and the ROM section where the Android devs are already looking into it.
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Have a look at the Evo thread already running, and the ROM section where the Android devs are already looking into it.
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DOH, should have looked I guess but I hope that it does help.
T-Mobile myTouch 4G aka HTC Glacier Shipped ROM Leaked
http://pocketnow.com/android/t-mobile-mytouch-4g-aka-htc-glacier-shipped-rom-leaked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qRRDwj14S8&feature=player_embedded
My question is can we get a build for the hd2? Or are there still more things needed?
Could someone please explain to me why every time any phone with Android is released, that there are drones of people demanding developers who've put hours and hours on end of their own personal time into programming fixing and tweaking the current HD2 Android builds for no personal gain whatsoever, to devote more time and energy porting over a build that has almost no change in OS whatsoever?
I'd understand if a new phone came out with Android 2.3 or something, but all the phones being released lately aren't that much different from each other....
In the OP's defense he didn't demand anything he simply asked if it was possible and what it would take.. but your right about all the new phones OS being pretty similar.. that being said there is almost always something new in the OS when tmo drops a new android phone.. new mytouch is supposed to have a uma similar feature.. I guess we will see.
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could someone please explain to me why every time any phone with android is released, that there are drones of people demanding developers who've put hours and hours on end of their own personal time into programming fixing and tweaking the current hd2 android builds for no personal gain whatsoever, to devote more time and energy porting over a build that has almost no change in os whatsoever?
I'd understand if a new phone came out with android 2.3 or something, but all the phones being released lately aren't that much different from each other....
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first tmobile 2.2 sense rom, or should i say espresso. There is definitely not espresso rom on hd2(loaded with tmobile stuff)...so please dismiss your self.
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first tmobile 2.2 sense rom, or should i say espresso. There is definitely not espresso rom on hd2(loaded with tmobile stuff)...so please dismiss your self.
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This I did not know.. huh, learned something new today!!
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first tmobile 2.2 sense rom, or should i say espresso. There is definitely not espresso rom on hd2(loaded with tmobile stuff)...so please dismiss your self.
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Okay then, in that case, I'd be interested in a port.
A large majority of people both in Europe and United States use T-Mobile.
What are the benefits?
TMOBILE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE MYTOUCH SLIDE UI "ESPRESSO" BUT ITS RUNNING ANDROID 2.1. AND THE FUNNY THING IS THAT, THE UI ON THE MYTOUCH SLIDE HAD SKINS, LANDSCAPE SENSE, AND MULTITASKING IN THE NOTIFICATIONS WAY BEFORE THE "DESIRE HD" AND "DESIRE Z".
ALOT OF GOODIES IN THE PREVIOUS MYTOUCH (CAN APPLY LOCK WALLPAPER DIFFERENT FROM HOME WALLPAPER, THEMES, LANDSCAPE SENSE, MY FAVES GALLERY, MODE SWITCH BASE ON TIME OR LOCATION, GENIUS APP, APP PACK AND MORE). SO I AM VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THIS 2.2 VERSION OF THE MYTOUCH ROM PACKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RmjJnsoCpM
Thank you for the editing
I sat thru first 3 of 13 mins, that's so boring, just flipped back and forth desktop for 3 freaking mins.
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thank you for the editing
i sat thru first 3 of 13 mins, that's so boring, just flipped back and forth desktop for 3 freaking mins.
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lol i had to watch the whole thing for u guys
myTouch include: Android 2.2 3.8″ WVGA display 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8255 processor 5-megapixel camera autofocus LED flash 720p HD recording front-facing camera 3.5 mm audiojack Wifi 802.11 b/g/n.
Here are the specs. Look pretty familiar =)
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myTouch include: Android 2.2 3.8″ WVGA display 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8255 processor 5-megapixel camera autofocus LED flash 720p HD recording front-facing camera 3.5 mm audiojack Wifi 802.11 b/g/n.
Here are the specs. Look pretty familiar =)
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"similar" but not identical. For example, the processor (QSD8250 vs MSM8255) is different... Chipset might be different. radio manufacturer might be different, camera drivers mightbe different, etc etc etc.
But hey, they managed to plug in Desire Z and HD ROMs... Who knows!
If you can really use it
as UMA - that would be lovely.. the signal at my house sux and i need uma for android. That is the main reason that i want this..if possible ofcourse
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Anyone got a mirror?
I'm actually extremely interested to see this get ported to the HD2. As a T-Mobile USA customer, I think that this ROM would more than likely get me exactly where I wanna be with this phone...
Hope someone decides to pick up on this... If not, oh well...
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anyone got a mirror?
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where u able to download it?
dapoharoun said:
where u able to download it?
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Its in the development section under htc glacier system dump, pack21 has just posted a mega upload link
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Its in the development section under htc glacier system dump, pack21 has just posted a mega upload link
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nice! good to see the topic in that section.
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Could someone please explain to me why every time any phone with Android is released, that there are drones of people demanding developers who've put hours and hours on end of their own personal time into programming fixing and tweaking the current HD2 Android builds for no personal gain whatsoever, to devote more time and energy porting over a build that has almost no change in OS whatsoever?
I'd understand if a new phone came out with Android 2.3 or something, but all the phones being released lately aren't that much different from each other....
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Completely agree... Whoever initiates this type of request should actually donate some money first, recommend others to do the same and then get someone interested to make a build if they want it... that way, build maker makes some $$$ and everyone is happy... even grannies don't give it for free...
(Yap, the green smiley face again)
Envy HD2 owners that able to run BOTH Windows Phone 7 and Android their device?
Anybody here wish that it's available for our G2/DZ too?
but technically, is it even possible?
Let's give your opinion.
Get the HD2 then
Is WP7 really nice that you want to run on a G2/DZ? Personally, I don't like the interface of WP7, but I must admit that if that were possible, I would give it a try and install. Just because I'm a curious cat. LOL.
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Get the HD2 then
Is WP7 really nice that you want to run on a G2/DZ? Personally, I don't like the interface of WP7, but I must admit that if that were possible, I would give it a try and install. Just because I'm a curious cat. LOL.
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Me too, not so interest with WP7.
But for the sake of my "geek-ness", I want ALL that, in my phone.
I have both the HD2 and the G2. I run WP7 on the HD. it is flawless. would love to try on thwe vision. however i beleive that the HD2 is the only non-wp7 that has the hardware to run it... if the vision had a stock clock spd of 1GHZ then maybe.....but it does not...no matter it can be overclocked....that is prob the nail in the coffin, plus the button layout is very important... i hope im wrong. but i do love having both..hehe....u can get a HD2' for $29.99 on contract or new line if u can find one
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I have both the HD2 and the G2. I run WP7 on the HD. it is flawless. would love to try on thwe vision. however i beleive that the HD2 is the only non-wp7 that has the hardware to run it... if the vision had a stock clock spd of 1GHZ then maybe.....but it does not...no matter it can be overclocked....that is prob the nail in the coffin, plus the button layout is very important... i hope im wrong. but i do love having both..hehe....u can get a HD2' for $29.99 on contract or new line if u can find one
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*facepalm*
G2 Processor>HTC HD2's even undeclocked
Also the nail in the coffin is that WP7 is not open source
MacaronyMax said:
*facepalm*
G2 Processor>HTC HD2's even undeclocked
Also the nail in the coffin is that WP7 is not open source
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So why WP7 is in HD2?
eadams1975: do check on my flag again. I'm not in US dude.
and the POWER in HD2 is not as good as HTC Vision. :d
did not look at your flag..oops. i have no doubts of potential with the G2 thats why i picked one up for my new mod toy
I have a HD2 too and had installed dual boot WM/Android but I never would have installed WP7. Yerk. And definitely don't want it on my Z!
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Do we need a thread about this every week because someone does not understand how to search? NO YOU CANT WP7 IS NOT OPEN SOURCE.
Isn't the only reason WP7 is sort-of on the HD2 that Microsoft/HTC themselves ported it before the other HTC WP7 phones were released ? Maybe I'm wrong but that is my assumption.
WP7 isn't going to happen on the Vision because the necessary drivers will be missing, and without source code it would be a huge job to fix this.
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Do we need a thread about this every week because someone does not understand how to search? NO YOU CANT WP7 IS NOT OPEN SOURCE.
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First, thanks for your hard time to remind people to "search before you post".
It's just a GENERAL DISCUSSION on "ENVYING the HD2 owners able to dual boot WP7 and Android".
If in some way, this thread made you feel that it's a request/demand/question, then I'm sorry.
The task would be mammoth, and there's no hardware drivers etc, and not much info on WP7, so not likely to happen. Closing, as this will likely become another flame war
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.
After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
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If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
Just for the new sense
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If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD
Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.
guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars
soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.
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Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
why not
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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ok
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Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway
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Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear
maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.
Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."
i talk with mwakious and told me that he start the works about sense 4 after a custom rom that makes for htc flyer good news
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i talk with mwakious and told me that he start the works about sense 4 after a custom rom that makes for htc flyer good news
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Well, thus far nobody's succeeded with a full Sense 4 port and I doubt that mwakious will either. If I'm not mistaken, he's actually the same dev who posted in the Blackout thread that he had a working, booting port then never posted it. The wording 'he'll start working on it after finishing a Flyer custom ROM' is also quite indecisive. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I definitely don't have high hopes for this one.
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Well, thus far nobody's succeeded with a full Sense 4 port and I doubt that mwakious will either. If I'm not mistaken, he's actually the same dev who posted in the Blackout thread that he had a working, booting port then never posted it. The wording 'he'll start working on it after finishing a Flyer custom ROM' is also quite indecisive. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I definitely don't have high hopes for this one.
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just have to wait and see but its possible,im using this sense 4.1 on my desire http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122 so good base to use as hardware similar but will take time to do
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just have to wait and see but its possible,im using this sense 4.1 on my desire http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122 so good base to use as hardware similar but will take time to do
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I don't doubt it's possible (obviously the desire thread you've linked is a perfect example) but it's just that I don't have particularly high hopes for this particular rumour.
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i talk with mwakious and told me that he start the works about sense 4 after a custom rom that makes for htc flyer good news
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How is this good news for the HD2?
It's like saying "Hey, John Doe started working on porting Sense 5 to the Galaxy SIII"
I don't understand how this is relevant to the HD2.
Marvlesz said:
How is this good news for the HD2?
It's like saying "Hey, John Doe started working on porting Sense 5 to the Galaxy SIII"
I don't understand how this is relevant to the HD2.
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Mwakious was definitely a dev here but I think he also lied about his work. In the Blackout ICS thread he said that he had a fully working port and then disappeared from the thread entirely, and he also claimed that he had a HWA Sense 3.5 (i.e. GB) port which clearly wasn't true.
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Mwakious was definitely a dev here but I think he also lied about his work. In the Blackout ICS thread he said that he had a fully working port and then disappeared from the thread entirely, and he also claimed that he had a HWA Sense 3.5 (i.e. GB) port which clearly wasn't true.
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Even with that being said, having a developer making a port for a different device ( remember that the flyer is already a sense tablet) does not necessarily imply a port for the HD2.
So the OP went to the flyer section and read a WIP sense 4 for the flyer, I don't think this has anything to do with the HD2. Even if it is a work of the same developer.
IMO, this has nothing to do with the HD2 and the thread is useless because I am unable to find the "good news".
^I don't think I was clear, sorry .
(P.S. to nigel: Congrats on your green name, I wanted that, too )
GOD that is good news i cant wait
i think we have a bettor shot at seeing JB 5.0 before a sense 4.0 rom
yes my friend i fear you are right
Any idea for ETA ? An alpha version ''very soon' should be really appreciated
Gauss75 said:
Any idea for ETA ? An alpha version ''very soon' should be really appreciated
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yep and its dec 21st 2112