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Goodbye my X10 friends!

hello everyone...
hope u all are doing great!
as most of u must have realized, recently i am not very active in the X10 device sub-forums... i love this community as X10 was my first true smartphone and this device community has been amazing in all aspects! its like a family... we all have gone thru a LOT, the exciting times of bootloader bypass kernels, GB on X10, hacked bootloader, etc all the drama with delayed updates, Mr Trip, Mr Anderson and the sheer disappointments thanks to SE ... it was a GREAT time for me, as i made many new friends and learnt a lot about android... when i got my X10 i had no clue about android but i learnt stuff thanks to the wonderful ppl of our X10 community...
anyways, i have finally decided to stop my development work on Xperia X10... if anyone is interested in carrying on with my projects feel free to contact me via P.M.... most of the sources i have used (kernel, recovery) are posted at my github account: https://github.com/DooMLoRD
dont worry i am not leaving XDA anytime soon (atleast not in the next 4-5 months)... i am/was actively involved in development for Xperia ARC, PLAY and contribute to development in lots of other device sub-forums... BTW i plan to buy the Sony Xperia S or ION and HTC Zeta or Edge... so if any of u are getting those device then u can find me there soon (once i get those devices)
so this is a goodbye to all my X10 friends, i hope to see u guys around XDA/other places...
here is wishing all of u guys best of luck for u future, may u all have a wonderful and happy life!!!
warm regards,
Rahul (a.k.a. DooMLoRD)

Thank you so much Rahul for everything you have done. You have mentioned it yet what a "special" device the X10 is. So your relentless input and selfless work was so much more important than on other devices imo. You were really sent from heaven, man
But awesome that you mentioned the Xperia S and HTC Ville because when nothing spectacular will happen at MWC one of it will be my new device, too.
Glad to know that there will be at least one kickass dev
I hope you forgive me this offtopic question. But since you have learned so much about developing for Sony devices do you think the Snapdragon S3 in the Xperia S will be future proof? Or do you think that the HTC Ville with its S4 chip will be much better not just in battery consumption but in power as well?
Thanks for everything,
Matt

Thank you for all your hard work and dedication!
Sad to see you go but your work will not be forgotten!
Don't forget that you can always hang out with us in the general chat section
Sent from a galaxy far, far away...

maddes1402 said:
Thank you so much Rahul for everything you have done. You have mentioned it yet what a "special" device the X10 is. So your relentless input and selfless work was so much more important than on other devices imo. You were really sent from heaven, man
But awesome that you mentioned the Xperia S and HTC Ville because when nothing spectacular will happen at MWC one of it will be my new device, too.
Glad to know that there will be at least one kickass dev
I hope you forgive me this offtopic question. But since you have learned so much about developing for Sony devices do you think the Snapdragon S3 in the Xperia S will be future proof? Or do you think that the HTC Ville with its S4 chip will be much better not just in battery consumption but in power as well?
Thanks for everything,
Matt
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Snapdragon S4 will be the best solution between the two, but the actual devices may be released/will reach market in second half of the year (june-july 2012) may be even later... thats why i will be buying both the Xperia S & HTC Ville... Xperia S to keep me busy till the S4 chips are released

Well bro i was half expecting this as i had not seen you around for a while.
You know you are a very special friend and i am just happy you are getting the xperia s as i will be joining you and hopefully i can get the forum to moderate so it will be like the good old days.
Our X10 forum will always be indebted to you for all your hard work and dedication, thanks bro, it was a great journey.
XPERIA S HERE WE COME

Goodbye Doom,
It would be sad to bid you farewell here since your kernels are absolutely the best ones I have ever used!!
By the way would you get the Nypon (LT22i) as well? Any insight into the st-ericsson novathor chipset?

Thank you sir for all ur awesomeness
Hopefully we will be in same forum again in future
Best of luck
Missing ur kernels

aR_ChRiS said:
Goodbye Doom,
It would be sad to bid you farewell here since your kernels are absolutely the best ones I have ever used!!
By the way would you get the Nypon (LT22i) as well? Any insight into the st-ericsson novathor chipset?
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Nypon is from what I have heard targeted at mid-high end segment...
Novathor will be an interesting platform, but I personally prefer Qualcomm Snapdragon platform, raw powerful CPU core... NovaThor has a good selection of gpu core, though not sure how powerfully r the CPU cores... I am more interested in what the A9600 chips have to offer (next gen novathor)...
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Another excellent developer who goes .....
The X10 is dying, it's horrible!
Thank you for all you did for us all, you have greatly contributed to ensuring that our phone becomes a real rocket !
See you soon, perhaps in another section

My X10 rocks because of your kernels and all the expertise you have shared with this community. Peace to you and blessings on your work. Thank you!

My x10 was my first smart phone and i found it great whitout knowing what was custom roms / kernels thanks to you my phone is rocking better then ever ! And always have been using your kernel it is simply the best
Best of luck whit future development and hopefully until the end of march the xperia s shows up in Canada whit Rogers so i couls be joining the fun aswell !
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There are only a handful of x10 owners that EVERYONE respected/admired and simply sincerely liked, and you Rahul, are one of those handful.
You will definitely be missed by all.
All the best for the future, and i'm sure most of us will bump into each other over the next year or two on these forums. It's a small world
Take care mate,
Luke

DooMLoRD said:
hello everyone...
hope u all are doing great!
as most of u must have realized, recently i am not very active in the X10 device sub-forums... i love this community as X10 was my first true smartphone and this device community has been amazing in all aspects! its like a family... we all have gone thru a LOT, the exciting times of bootloader bypass kernels, GB on X10, hacked bootloader, etc all the drama with delayed updates, Mr Trip, Mr Anderson and the sheer disappointments thanks to SE ... it was a GREAT time for me, as i made many new friends and learnt a lot about android... when i got my X10 i had no clue about android but i learnt stuff thanks to the wonderful ppl of our X10 community...
anyways, i have finally decided to stop my development work on Xperia X10... if anyone is interested in carrying on with my projects feel free to contact me via P.M.... most of the sources i have used (kernel, recovery) are posted at my github account: https://github.com/DooMLoRD
dont worry i am not leaving XDA anytime soon (atleast not in the next 4-5 months)... i am/was actively involved in development for Xperia ARC, PLAY and contribute to development in lots of other device sub-forums... BTW i plan to buy the Sony Xperia S or ION and HTC Zeta or Edge... so if any of u are getting those device then u can find me there soon (once i get those devices)
so this is a goodbye to all my X10 friends, i hope to see u guys around XDA/other places...
here is wishing all of u guys best of luck for u future, may u all have a wonderful and happy life!!!
warm regards,
Rahul (a.k.a. DooMLoRD)
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Doom you are and always will be welcome.

Thank you Rahul for all the things you have done for us.

Ooh, I'm so sad
Mr. Z not like before
DooMLorD gone
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Bye Bye
I'll see you soon

Thanks for all of your hard work, it's very much appreciated. You contributed to making my phone feel like a smartphone and not a piece of **** slow as crap 10 year old phone.
QUick Q: Will you still support the Xperia Play? I'm using your amazing Kernels on it and I would hate to see support for the Play get even worse

3dawg said:
Thanks for all of your hard work, it's very much appreciated. You contributed to making my phone feel like a smartphone and not a piece of **** slow as crap 10 year old phone.
QUick Q: Will you still support the Xperia Play? I'm using your amazing Kernels on it and I would hate to see support for the Play get even worse
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yes ARC & PLAY will still be fully supported... i am not currently stopping ARC & PLAY development...

DooMLoRD said:
yes ARC & PLAY will still be fully supported... i am not currently stopping ARC & PLAY development...
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That's great to hear

Stages of griefooMLoRD Bye to X10 friends
SHOCK!: No it can't be happening. I don't believe it!
ANGER!: You can't be doing this to us. "You too Brutus?"
ACCEPTANCE: The X10 has to go someday; with the brilliant and great developers associated with it on its XDA forum.
RESOLUTION: I finally got me an Samsung Galaxy SII and impatiently waiting for an "ice cream" treat.
DooMLoRD thanks for EVERYTHING that contributed to make the X10 still a great torchbearer for android phones. SE (now SONY) will be foolish not to invite your expertise.
I see you are never going to change your forum name but to me you will remain HoPELoRD

I've been a little inactive lately, but that's because my HTC Sensation has been taking up my time
Thanks for all your hard work DooMLoRD. Just to reiterate what LJE said, you are one of the people here that everyone sincerely liked and respected. Good luck with your next project.

[Discussion] ICS On Xperia Play

This Thread will be here for all the discussion regarding Sony, Xperia Play, & ICS myself & Techno-update will be monitering it. Keep it clean!
All other threads related to ICS on the Xperia Play & Sony's Stance on updating will be closed & link to this thread.
Pax
FSM Sony Ericsson Xperia Play

Thank you.
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This is sweet, good job!

Does anyone else think that perhaps this is a precursor to a "Xperia Play 2"? Think about it; the physical hardware probably wouldn't change much (same buttons, slider configuration, similar screen size). The main difference would be the hardware "underneath" (quad core, tegra, etc.) and the software. By dropping ICS off for the original Xperia Play, they can turn around and say the new model runs the superior ICS (and will surely get an update to jellybean)

Im not sure if my xda app is bugged out but on my screen the op's post is blank. Cant see what the topic of discussion is or ops thoughts.

LOL does the Kool-Aid taste good?
No, maybe/ hopefully you are right!! I would love an Xperia Play 2 BUT only after my contract is up....I think I have a year or so left.

this was my latest openion , please go on :
i'm sure that XDA's developers can make ICS better that sony , like what they did on our x10 mini-mini pro ...
sony-mobile allways say that they have expert engineers ...
so , xda's developers are more expert than sony's engineers ???!!!
plus , they only need dommlord , jjkkyu , bin4ry ... ?
i'm sure that sony is liar . just wait 4 or five mounths , maybe sony wants to make new play-xperia ! ( something like xperia play 2 ) ! and that is reason to leave our xperia play without hard working on update .
on 2010 , they stopped working on X10 series , just because of 2011 series !
just look at apple updates , they support their specs for 3 years ,!unfortunately , now i can understand , why apple owners , allways laugh at us !

Ics 4.0.4??? N Play didnt get it??? Bummer. Lets hope our talented dev can port that updte for our Play.
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Thumbs up to SONY for its strategy..
first, released ICS BETA version.. i think they already know the feedback : many would report bugs on gaming
second, with bugs gaming report.. this will create an opinion for some users : better not getting the update than couldn't enjoy the gaming experience
third, with that opinion created.. of course some users wouldn't blame them at all
Imagine if SONY do not release ICS BETA n suddenly made a statement no ICS update for Xperia Play in the very last minute, ........ ???

Why dont you start a petition before its to late? Ask for ICS or at least a value pack.
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I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."

I think this is just a delay, not cancel.
But anyway, i will start my ics project soon, no longer waiting.
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beez1717 said:
I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."
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i'm agree with you
we should finally teach sony that PROMISE IS PROMISE .
a broken apple is better than sony-mobile's xperia
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I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!

beez1717 said:
I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!
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Now thats an IDEA!!!
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Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia

RezaFaliq said:
Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia
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yeah , sony also promised new PSsuite and psp games !!!
i want to be patient , but i can't

Let's start from the beginning. The Play, from a pure hardware view, can run ICS. Sony, HTC and other companies are releasing hardware with ICS and lower specs than the Play (Tapioca, Desire C). We've seen that the beta runs mighty fine in the performance department, and it's obvious that the job can be finished if Sony cares to do so.
However, this is a matter of the gaming ecosystem. In short: the only companies Sony cares about are the big names like EA, Gameloft, Rockstar, etc. as they make the big majority of the Play game sales.
However, with regard to development, the Play is not important to those big names: they see it as "the redheaded stepchild Android", because they have to make extra effort to make it work with the game pads, instead of easily deploying the code in it like they do in the whole different platforms they code for (not only mobile phones, but smart TV's, console-related app stores, Steam and so on). Sony bribed those big developers with a lot of cash (remember all those free EA games and temporary exclusives?) so that the Play remained visible.
Fast forward to now. Gingerbread is present in a good 60% of Android Play Store-running hardware. ICS has only like.a 4%. Android is the best selling platform, with, let's say 500 million active devices. If my numbers are not wrong, that gives 300M GB devices 20M ICS ones. Developing with ICS in mind implies higher development costs, because you have to study the new features and use them. And of course, big name developers target wide audiences: by default they'll program with Gingerbread in mind, so they couldn't care less about ICS right now.
Someone mentioned Windows 7 incompatibility with old games: there is actually a Compatibility mode which was mainly designed for the purpose of using older games. Now Steam has taken care of that, which suits MS fine.
With the ICS upgrade, Sony probably contacted their "partners" and asked them to update their software (basically switch from the Sony custom gamepad framework to Google's standard one which Sony probably contributed themselves) for it to work properly in ICS, like they do in Sony gaming platforms. But unlike the PlayStations, it's those big name developers who are in control now, particularly in Android. Therefore, they showed Sony the middle finger.
Indie developers, on the other hand, are much more careful with their code, since they don't have the ability to port a game to twenty platforms and offset the possible losses of one platform with the other one. That means they produce code which is much better tailored to the platform they work on, and you can see it because most indie games work properly in both GB and ICS (note that I'm not talking about the quality of the game itself, but of its code).
TL;DR this is a power struggle between Sony and the big name game developers. The latter have won here, at the expense of the users. Support independent developers but make sure they don't make the "big name" status, because they'll get the need to control everything and screw users like this.
P.S if someone is so unhappy about not having ICS that they don't want that piece of crap lying around in their home, I offer to pay $50 plus shipping for it

Sony makes a Fony promise....
RIP Sony

I was looking for an ICS phone with gaming capability and decent specs, the Xperia play looked good and so I bought it as Sony had "promised" an ICS update. I am vvery dissatisfied and disappointed with them and hope they are hit with a lawsuit. If not id at least like some compensation.
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Lack of devices might harm development?

Will the lack of actual devices harm the development for this phone?

It's their flagship device, so Google is probably working at supplying more phones right now. I'm sure that they will be able to meet demand as to not to stunt the growth of development. I have a feeling they wanted to sell out of their first run to create some buzz around the phone, whether it's good buzz or bad buzz, I'm not so sure...

It's certainly going to slow down development since less people will have the device. But I'm sure it will be quite popular and well supported by December.

Don't worry, devs will have this device soon. I wanted a Nexus 4, but I was unable to snatch one due to Play Store issues on the first day.

klin1344 said:
Don't worry, devs will have this device soon. I wanted a Nexus 4, but I was unable to snatch one due to Play Store issues on the first day.
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This is exactly it! You're a dev who would be able to contribute to the community, but was unable to acquire a device. Yeah theres always batch #2 but what happens when it sells out? 3 more weeks?

It's a Nexus, I can guarantee you development well flourish soon enough. Back ordered or not, many people will do whatever / wait however long it takes to get this phone.
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lol are u serious? i will give it a month and u will see the n4 community catching up with the onex forum

[Q] Find 5 questions before purchase

Hello you all
mods, feel free to move our delete my post if you feel it's in the wrong section
I am planning to buy the find 5, but I want to be sure this is the right buy for me. I know the performance is awesome and the screen is one of the best or there, so +1 for those, but now for development support. I see there it's a fresh new cm10.1 so that seems ok but are you developers going to keep this phone for a long time? The price tag is pretty hefty for me and I want to keep the phone for a few years. Any change for long term development here? With android 5, and up support? Fast kernels?
Thank you so much
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Phenziox said:
Hello you all
mods, feel free to move our delete my post if you feel it's in the wrong section
I am planning to buy the find 5, but I want to be sure this is the right buy for me. I know the performance is awesome and the screen is one of the best or there, so +1 for those, but now for development support. I see there it's a fresh new cm10.1 so that seems ok but are you developers going to keep this phone for a long time? The price tag is pretty hefty for me and I want to keep the phone for a few years. Any change for long term development here? With android 5, and up support? Fast kernels?
Thank you so much
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ask Oppo, but they might not guarantee it, or go back on their word
eg: motorola promises android update, then reneges on it
developers do porting on their free time, if you want to guarantee something (like having Android version x), do it yourself........ bootloader is unlocked - you can install anything you want on it

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ask Oppo, but they might not guarantee it, or go back on their word
eg: motorola promises android update, then reneges on it
developers do porting on their free time, if you want to guarantee something (like having Android version x), do it yourself........ bootloader is unlocked - you can install anything you want on it
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Yeah I wasn't really talking about oppo itself, more of xda support
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Phenziox said:
Yeah I wasn't really talking about oppo itself, more of xda support
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as I said, devs work on this on their free time
no dev will tell you: "I will work on this forever and not sell it.. if it breaks, i'll get a new one to continue support"...
if you want android 5.x, learn how to port

paperWastage said:
as I said, devs work on this on their free time
no dev will tell you: "I will work on this forever and not sell it.. if it breaks, i'll get a new one to continue support"...
if you want android 5.x, learn how to port
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Yup. So far, I see myself as far less likely to wind up in the "OMFG I HATE THIS DEVICE AND I AM SICK OF DEALING WITH IT" category like all of the Exynos4 CM maintainers did.
That said, if I get spread too thin, the device might receive less attention in the future.
A lot depends more on Qualcomm than on Oppo.

Entropy512 said:
Yup. So far, I see myself as far less likely to wind up in the "OMFG I HATE THIS DEVICE AND I AM SICK OF DEALING WITH IT" category like all of the Exynos4 CM maintainers did.
That said, if I get spread too thin, the device might receive less attention in the future.
A lot depends more on Qualcomm than on Oppo.
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Well, you got that right
The exact reason why I was planning to skip on the s3
And to be clear, I wasnt trying to demand support, just asking whether it was there or not
And I saw the full source code was available so this seems like a good source to learn development xD
Thank you
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Security setting FC
Security setting FC

Oppo has been great about getting the find it developers hand. They have given out almost ten free devices. So there will be Roms, not as much as a nexus but a few. Again in the long term support won't be as good as a nexus but it uses a qualcom chip so support is easy, not nexus easy but second best. I say it will be supported as long as the nexus four dependent on binary issues.
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[protest] where are gone developers for gt-i9505? [protest]

I open this thread because I think there is something wrong.
Why the note3, note2 etc. already 'there are rom final of galaxy s5, ma s4 we are still to zero? I can not understand why!
I hope that the moderators can understand the outburst of a user who has a passion for android.
I hope I have given a shock to everyone in the friendly way.
thanks for your attention.

I know what you are saying. There doesn't seem to be many devs and themers etc in the international S4 forums, and the few there is dont seem to be very helpful or active, especially in the themes and apps thread.
In all the time I have been coming here, I don't think I have seen a single 'recognised developer' or 'recognised themer' in any of the many threads, especially the S5 threads.
It's pretty shocking really, especially with the S4 being so popular. You would think it would have far more support than it does.

oracle01642 said:
I know what you are saying. There doesn't seem to be many devs and themers etc in the international S4 forums, and the few there is dont seem to be very helpful or active, especially in the themes and apps thread.
In all the time I have been coming here, I don't think I have seen a single 'recognised developer' or 'recognised themer' in any of the many threads, especially the S5 threads.
It's pretty shocking really, especially with the S4 being so popular. You would think it would have far more support than it does.
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in fact! The galaxy s4 is one of the phones most 'popular, and you do not understand where are all the developers, maybe they are secretly at work but at least they could warn us so we are more' quiet ....
outputs are a few applications, and most also have bugs .... it's something a bit 'sad what's going on

It is sad but i have to agree the S4 is not getting attention of much developers, dont know why it is the most sold Android phone and still the Note 2 and 3 beat us for number of developers, they have ported all s5 apps and we are just struggling trying to do it by us with copying things here and there.
Dont know why so

For Note 2, Sammy released a fully Libs/Framwork Base, so porting was verry easy,
For Note 3, Devs Mad great works, but still in progress
For us, We need to wait

Yeah I agree with you guys note 3 got all s5 features even ultra power saving mode. All least they can port the rom ( ditto note 3 ) for us.

Something that Samsung should have provided to all flagshi pphones from day1...
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Lympe said:
Something that Samsung should have provided to all flagshi pphones from day1...
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amen to that m8

It would be nice if you all stop asking for this and that... No dev signed a contract saying he would provide all latest features to S4. Its not their job. So just wait until someone capable does that, if you can't wait sell your phone and buy the latest one as you want Thread reported.
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it's just a friendly protest!
it is useless to say you wait and sell the phone etc ... we all know how it works do not need him to tell you ... it was just kind of a question to understand why the developers for s4 (popular phone) are so 'absent
leeomendes said:
It would be nice if you all stop asking for this and that... No dev signed a contract saying he would provide all latest features to S4. Its not their job. So just wait until someone capable does that, if you can't wait sell your phone and buy the latest one as you want Thread reported.
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leeomendes said:
It would be nice if you all stop asking for this and that... No dev signed a contract saying he would provide all latest features to S4. Its not their job. So just wait until someone capable does that, if you can't wait sell your phone and buy the latest one as you want Thread reported.
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Yeah yeah yeah. The international S4 forums hardly gets any support from 'recognised' devs and themers etc, thats just the truth of the matter. You virtually never see recognised devs helping out in the apps and themes forum. With their knowledge and skills, they could get all or most of the latest and greatest apps from the S5 working on our phones, because everything that is needed to get them working, is right there in the ROM. It just needs someone knowledgable and with experience with android and TW ROM's to figure it out. I just wish the guys with the knowledge would help people out more!

nplnpl said:
I open this thread because I think there is something wrong.
Why the note3, note2 etc. already 'there are rom final of galaxy s5, ma s4 we are still to zero? I can not understand why!
I hope that the moderators can understand the outburst of a user who has a passion for android.
I hope I have given a shock to everyone in the friendly way.
thanks for your attention.
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Hahahhaha.
Bro let me tell u something
A lot of developer more likely to ported or focus on note due to certain reason
1st larger community starting from note 1.
2nd all dev are helping each other on rom
3rd note are more user friendly framework based on certain dev.
Just pray. So far follow more than one thread. S4, note 2 and note 3 development. And downloading 1xxx gb of rom files and apk of s5 to mod it with my s4.
So far i do excited. Even sometimes i have to flash and wipe my phone more than 5 times. Soft brick blalallalala
And do understand s9me of dev are studyin
Just relax and wait with patience hehhe
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@nplnpl isn't this a great opportunity you to step up to plate and become a recognized dev or themer
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Hi Dudes.
From a theme perspective, there is not too much to do nowadays for the S4. Stable ROMs with few unnoticeable firmware update changes led to this. Since KK release, Sammy added only 1 lonely PNG !!!
While porting a theme to the Note3 community, S5 apps flooded the ROMs with doubtful results. Lots of FC's ... Music hardly opens.
So, may be we can just enjoy the stability and try to calm down our ORD.
Nice regards.
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To be honest the is probably a few reasons we are seeing less and less on these forums.
1. Many ROMs are ported to dozens of devices, meaning maintainers are needed to work across all phones. Likelihood is some models are more time consuming then others.
2. The s4 was a flagship device, devs don't earn a huge amount for what they do so for a lot the top end devices are out of the question until the price drops
3. In line with above, as the price comes down, the price of newer models released do too. For example, my wife's note 3 was released at the same price my s4 was worth 6 months after release.
4. In general, a fair amount of Developers come from the US, this device is null and void to them.
5. We seem to of hit a plateau regarding features and performance for the s4 where as newer devices have newer features to build on.
6. Its summer (nearly) and a lot will be studying for exams
Make of my views what you will...
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While I do agree with the obvious.. all great devs have jumped ship, a thing I am truly sorry for, we have no right to protest. They don't owe us anything.
All they did, they did from passion and on this base they've created this wonderful community - xda which indeed grew along with Samsung and HTC a few years ago, period in which Samsung was the no 1 choice for any big dev.
They weren't payed for this, some didn't even got the respect they would've deserved and nowadays they have other priorities, other passions or other preferred device on which to try their magic. It's their decision, they probably have good reasons for this and we can just accept and respect their decision in respect for their great work.
Beside, the context has changed, now there are many potent OEMs, each really trying to do their best when it comes to fast updates, functionality of the sw and top notch hw.
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Anyway, just wanted to get you guys a glimpse of hope.
Apparently @sac23 is ready to start working on a direct port of the s5 to the s4 (just after he irons out the last few things the on the s5 port to n3).
This beside all the great work @Albe95 , @Arsaw , @Tamerlan2009 , @m_beek , @Carotix , all roms maintainers etc. are doing!
Fun isn't over yet boys!!!