I see quite a few on CL for between $100-$150, would you say this is the best option at this price?
If you are willing to root it and put custom roms on it, its an amazing device. The lack of Bluetooth and camera are minor to me. Removable storage would he nice. Ice cream sandwich and jelly bean run better on my fire than any other device I have used. The kindle fire stock is kind of a let down though. If you don't feel like messing with it and want something great out of the box, you would be better spending $200 on a nexus 7 (but even those are having some issues)
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If you are willing to root it and put custom roms on it, its an amazing device. The lack of Bluetooth and camera are minor to me. Removable storage would he nice. Ice cream sandwich and jelly bean run better on my fire than any other device I have used. The kindle fire stock is kind of a let down though. If you don't feel like messing with it and want something great out of the box, you would be better spending $200 on a nexus 7 (but even those are having some issues)
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Rooting and roms are half the fun though right? I've yet to try flash on a dualcore tablet, how are flash videos compared to say a netbook? I want to make sure it can at least be my main web browsing tool before I get one.
It works beautifully. You will throw your netbook away
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It works beautifully. You will throw your netbook away
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On jelly bean you have to sideload flash player, and chrome browser doesn't support flash at all, but the stock browser works just fine for that.
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I see quite a few on CL for between $100-$150, would you say this is the best option at this price?
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Yeah, it's a good device for $100. Flash works fine for the most part. You shouldn't have any troubles with it.
Coby has some nice tablets for cheap
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Coby has some nice tablets for cheap
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But cobys don't have hashcode kernels
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Stock kf is kind of useless, really, but cm10 runs like a dream. Reasonable battery, perfectly smooth, pretty much no lag. Works perfectly for videos, reading, etc. Browsing is okay for most websites. Get one. Its great.
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so far I will not recommend this tablet.
I played with sii, desire z, htc sensation, nexus s and I never had problems like the kindle gave me.
You can see it by the number of failling kindle threads.
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so far I will not recommend this tablet.
I played with sii, desire z, htc sensation, nexus s and I never had problems like the kindle gave me.
You can see it by the number of failling kindle threads.
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Those are mostly from people that can't follow simple directions. I had 0 experience with rooting and flashing ROMs until I got my Kindle and I've had no problems.
Now what problems did the Kindle give you?
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Stock kf is kind of useless, really, but cm10 runs like a dream. Reasonable battery, perfectly smooth, pretty much no lag. Works perfectly for videos, reading, etc. Browsing is okay for most websites. Get one. Its great.
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I agree. Once it's flashed with cm10, the Fire is so much better. If Amazon video works in a future update, it'll be so awesome.
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Those are mostly from people that can't follow simple directions. I had 0 experience with rooting and flashing ROMs until I got my Kindle and I've had no problems.
Now what problems did the Kindle give you?
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Bad memory. I did some bad sector scanning, the internal memory is dead.
2 weeks of use, I have to fight with amazone to get a new one because I win it with cisco system.
the last acces I had from the internal memory it was just enough to flash update.zip. at least...
any way, like I said, I'm not an official developper but I'm trying a lot of stuff since making app and scripts is easy and none of my devices fail. I had hard brick, and I was able to get it back.
but this kindle, is the jungle. a lot of peope have random proplems. some of them are with the stock rom ! ...
And one more thing, a tablet, imho, is the most useless electonic device on the market. especially if you have a smartphone.
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Bad memory. I did some bad sector scanning, the internal memory is dead.
2 weeks of use, I have to fight with amazone to get a new one because I win it with cisco system.
the last acces I had from the internal memory it was just enough to flash update.zip. at least...
any way, like I said, I'm not an official developper but I'm trying a lot of stuff since making app and scripts is easy and none of my devices fail. I had hard brick, and I was able to get it back.
but this kindle, is the jungle. a lot of peope have random proplems. some of them are with the stock rom ! ...
And one more thing, a tablet, imho, is the most useless electonic device on the market. especially if you have a smartphone.
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I've had my Fire since the release and I've had no such problems. I also bought one for my brother and grandmother, with no problems either.
I'm truly sorry for your poor experience, but I'm afraid most people don't seem to be having the same problems as you, that I can tell.
I'd strongly recommend the Kindle Fire as a cheap tablet if you can get it for a great price, but I'm planning on upgrading to a Nexus 7 soon, myself. For $80-125, if you can find one for that, it would be an ultimate cheap productivity and entertainment device.
Make sure to install CM9 or CM10 (I have CM10), though. Stock is useless, unless you're a true e-book fan.
I also had little experience with modifying android before my kindle, but I had no problems at any stage of the process. Just stick to the instructions and everything will work fine.
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I believe that the kindle fire suffers from parts inconsistency. It is a price point type of product and was intended to run the reduced functionality of the amazon os. This explains why there are some kindles that work and spec well while others spec low and even break. For myself, I rooted and loaded mine in front of my computer with instructions in front of me. When it went off course, I googled and kept going. My kindle specs pretty average. It helps that I have been a system builder for 20 years. I do not fault the kindle, and amazon exchanges it easily.
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Bad memory. I did some bad sector scanning, the internal memory is dead.
2 weeks of use, I have to fight with amazone to get a new one because I win it with cisco system.
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Good luck with the exchange. Generally there is no warranty on prizes (not just with Amazon but with other companies too). Hopefully they will help you out. Amazon seems to be pretty easy to work with from what I have heard so you might be in luck.
Back on topic, I haven't had my Kindle for long but I agree with what most of the people here are saying. It can be a great tablet when it is rooted and flashed with CM9 or CM10. I somewhat miss having a front facing camera because I would like to use face unlock, but it definately isn't a deal breaker at the price that these are going for used. I got mine in a trade for an older 19" lcd tv/monitor that I quit using about 4 years ago so it was almost like I got it for free. After using the kindle for a little while now I would definately recommend it as long as you can get one for about $125 or less. If you can only find one that is in the $150+ range then you might as well save up a little bit longer and get the Nexus7 IMO.
I would go with the Nexus.
If you can score one for under $150 go for it! I just received a free Kindle Fire from my bank a few days ago, and I'm loving it!
To get the full experience out of it however, I would suggest reading up on some of the tutorials and get a dual boot going.
It's so awesome being able to boot into MoDaCo when you want to use Amazon's services, and then switch to CM10 when you want a more "traditional" tablet experience!
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Your best bet is to have 200 bucks ready and just get a Nexus 7
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I agree with him^^^ but of you do like the nexus the galaxy tab 2 7in is also really nice, I have a kindle fire, Samsung glaxay tab 2 (7") and a nexus 7 I'm returning the nexus in the next week because I don't like it very much, so I going to use the money to get the kindle fire 2!
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Hey everybody here's the deal I got my acer now for about 1 week I like it very much but I am saddened in the lack of development and support for It.
Plus I am very unhappy with the screen viewing angles on it and I heard the kindle does not have these issues.
As for the gps I tried it a handful of times and it doesn't really ever work or find my location so that's not a big deal to me since I heard the kindle does not have gps.
Basically all I got this tablet for is internet surfing facebook the typical things.
This is my first time using honey calm and I like it but I see I could install any type of launcher on a rooted kindle and have the same thing.
So what is everyone opinion should I get rid of this for the kindle or should I keep it and say screw the kindle what do you think?
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I don't have the A100 to compare it with my KF, development wise the Devs are putting in some time and ICS is improving by the week. I would suggest finding someone with KF running ICS or CM7 to compare, as for me am very happy with mine ( ICS).
I'm a huge Ics fan boy, using it on my Nexus S right now.
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support is usually a big deal for me.
but as far as features go the acer seems to have the upper hand. with bluetooth (working with no prob) cam and micro hdmi.
price doesnt seem to be an issue since you already have the acer and its a little more.
if your not happy with the way the acer is and cant find a launcher you like, try the kindle. or see if you can find someone to trade with.
i sometimes wonder what it would be like if i got a cheap tab instead of my fire.
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support is usually a big deal for me.
but as far as features go the acer seems to have the upper hand. with bluetooth (working with no prob) cam and micro hdmi.
price doesnt seem to be an issue since you already have the acer and its a little more.
if your not happy with the way the acer is and cant find a launcher you like, try the kindle. or see if you can find someone to trade with.
i sometimes wonder what it would be like if i got a cheap tab instead of my fire.
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I agree about the acer being more "feature packed", but I don't think I'll really ever use any of those features, maybe some pictures with the cam but that's about it.
Good idea with the launcher. I'll check that out..
I just hate that the kindle fire at any store is stuck in demo mode so I can't really play around like I really want to
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Love mine. I bought it solely as an internet appliance and rooted it and installed CM7 two days after I got it. I, too, saw no need for GPS/BT/camera on a tablet. I have a phone (DInc; upgrading shortly, probably GNex) for all of that.
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I agree about the acer being more "feature packed", but I don't think I'll really ever use any of those features, maybe some pictures with the cam but that's about it.
Good idea with the launcher. I'll check that out..
I just hate that the kindle fire at any store is stuck in demo mode so I can't really play around like I really want to
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I hear ya about the demo mode at the stores, what is that. You can play around with the nook but not the fire. Its just not fair. Lol.
The only thing i might use would be the Bluetooth, and that would be for gaming with controllers, via sixaxis or the wiimote.
Not to mention you could use the keyboard attachment.
Gotta weigh all sides first. Kindle is a very solid feeling device. With some good roms.
Man I love flashing, lol.
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Walmart will soon be offering a $50 gift card with the purchase of the KF.
Forget trying it in the stores, buy it from there or Best Buy and and see how you feel about it.
I sent the A100 packing. I didn't like the screen resolution for one and also having to hold it at a "sweetspot" angle to get the best viewing experience. The KF's screen smokes the A100!
I didn't root it either. I just installed Go Launcher EX to get away from the stock carousel and also changed the theme to Classic For Go Launcher and also I have Dolphin Browser HD! Pretty neat for a newb to mess with and also there are plenty of alternate app stores to get APK files from to download to the KF!!
Well I got my mind made up and the tablet will be going back, along with that stupid mobile broadband card I got to get the hundred off lol.
I'll be waiting for the kfire to be sold at walmart with the 50 dollar gift card.
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Well I got my mind made up and the tablet will be going back, along with that stupid mobile broadband card I got to get the hundred off lol.
I'll be waiting for the kfire to be sold at walmart with the 50 dollar gift card.
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I think the sell is on now
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I think the sell is on now
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Will check it out, thanks
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I bought my daughter the fire on Sunday st 12:05 am at Walmart, and am returning the coby I bought last week. Kindle fire is just so much more powerful although a little heavier than Coby, but worth it and with the extra $50
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Got a Fire today (and got the $50 gift card promo).
Not 100% sure if I'll keep it because I really wanted a 10" tab, but for the price I had to check this out. Looks like there is good dev happening here which is always good to see.
Hey guys. So after a couple months with the kindle fire I've decided to sell it. Its a great little device but it isn't really working out for me so I went ahead and got a galaxy tab 10.1. I'm still going to be in here every now and then looking around because I'm developing some things for the kf (using my brothers as a tester). Anyways see you all around
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Hey guys. So after a couple months with the kindle fire I've decided to sell it. Its a great little device but it isn't really working out for me so I went ahead and got a galaxy tab 10.1. I'm still going to be in here every now and then looking around because I'm developing some things for the kf (using my brothers as a tester). Anyways see you all around
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I'm just curious as to how it didn't work out.
Johnnydevil said:
Hey guys. So after a couple months with the kindle fire I've decided to sell it. Its a great little device but it isn't really working out for me so I went ahead and got a galaxy tab 10.1. I'm still going to be in here every now and then looking around because I'm developing some things for the kf (using my brothers as a tester). Anyways see you all around
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I had a GT10.1 for about a month after xmas, but I just couldn't stand the thought of my fiance spending that much moolah on me, so I returned it. I've had the KF for about a week now, rooted for about 5 days, and now on CM7 barebones for not even a full day. I gotta admin, the GT is obviously superior in functionality, but I think having the KF be ALMOST as good as a real tab for a fraction of the cost helps offset the lack in functionality. So I'm happy with my KF for now. Now if money ever becomes a non-issue in the future.....
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I had a GT10.1 for about a month after xmas, but I just couldn't stand the thought of my fiance spending that much moolah on me, so I returned it. I've had the KF for about a week now, rooted for about 5 days, and now on CM7 barebones for not even a full day. I gotta admin, the GT is obviously superior in functionality, but I think having the KF be ALMOST as good as a real tab for a fraction of the cost helps offset the lack in functionality. So I'm happy with my KF for now. Now if money ever becomes a non-issue in the future.....
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I agree, for what you get with the KF, and the nice price point, you can beat a rooted fire running a modded ROM. CM9 is working out really nice for me, and gives me all the function of my bro-in-laws Samsung tab.
7">10" all day.
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7">10" all day.
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That's...what....she said???
I do agree though. Feels a lot more natural and not as clunky. Of course I have to admit, the tab-style keyboard on my 10.1 was nice and made landscape typing MUCH easier on it. But with the 7 you don't have to mess with it, landscape isn't too big or awkward for most things.
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That's...what....she said???
I do agree though. Feels a lot more natural and not as clunky. Of course I have to admit, the tab-style keyboard on my 10.1 was nice and made landscape typing MUCH easier on it. But with the 7 you don't have to mess with it, landscape isn't too big or awkward for most things.
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I'm a little ashamed to admit I laughed at that...
For the cost, the Fire is really nice. I am definitely getting my money's worth. My only comment on 7" vs 10" is: 10" would be nicer for reading textbooks or academic papers. It isn't bad reading those kinds of things in landscape (just a lot of scrolling), but it would be better on a 10" screen I bet. Granted, not SO much better that I would fork over $400+...
What else would you want to do that the KF can't do ? Just curious..
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What else would you want to do that the KF can't do ? Just curious..
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Camera for video chat might be one idea, not that it matters to me.
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Don't get me wrong guys the kf is a great device. I'm a paramedic and also teach medic at a local school. For me the 10 inch screen and the ability to use a bluetooth keyboard were big selling points. Also carrying the galaxy is a non issue for me because I'm used to carrying a laptop around. Now I don't have to do that anymore. If this post is confusing I'm sorry I'm now on hour 24 with no sleep :banghead:
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I'm giving my fire to my mom and replacing it with the ASUS MeMO 370T the day it is released.
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-me...-sandwich-quad-core-tablet-hands-on-20120110/
Fire is good, and just getting better...
I am a flashoholic with my Android devices, but I just didn't have the courage to flash the alpha builds of ICS for the Fire until recently. Initially I was very disappointed with the fire and its functionality, but after flashing it with ICS, it is AMAZING and I love it. The only thing I would want is a camera and mic, but those aren't necessary.
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Granted, not SO much better that I would fork over $400+...
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And therein lies the rub, my friends. That's the exact reason I traded my GT10 back in for a KF. Sure, it's superior to the KF in quite a few ways, but an extra $400 worth? Not in my mind. Then again, if you got the money, then it's an easy call.
I like money, I'm a big fan of money. I keep it in a jar above the fridge. I'd like to put more money in that jar. That's where you come in.
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And therein lies the rub, my friends. That's the exact reason I traded my GT10 back in for a KF. Sure, it's superior to the KF in quite a few ways, but an extra $400 worth? Not in my mind. Then again, if you got the money, then it's an easy call.
I like money, I'm a big fan of money. I keep it in a jar above the fridge. I'd like to put more money in that jar. That's where you come in.
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The thing for me is I already have a phone that does the things that my Kindle Fire can't do so a larger more feature filled tablet isn't necessary.
I am thinking about switching from my rooted KF to a Nexus 7.
I like the increased processing power and memory along with BT and a GPS chip.
Getting Jelly Bean is icing on the tablet.
I will use my KF as a permanenty hooked Pandora player for me home audio system.
Anyone else thinking about switching from KF to Nexus 7?
Absolutely NOT.... lol
I am currently selling my 2 iPods on CL, I'm hoping not to sell my Kindle Fire, but I might have too.
I really want the Nexus 7
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I am currently selling my 2 iPods on CL, I'm hoping not to sell my Kindle Fire, but I might have too.
I really want the Nexus 7
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I would wait to see what a 2nd generation Kindle Fire would have to offer.
I'm torn between selling my KF, keeping it, and getting the Nexus 7 (N7).
I decided I'd wait for Amazon to respond with their KF2. Though I can use USB OTG on both the KF and N7, is KF2 had the addition of Bluetooth, GPS, Camera, Mic, and a Micro SD card slot, then this could be a real new competitor.
Also, I really dislike how slow the internal memory on the KF is.
I sold my kf yesterday and pre ordered a nexus on launch day. I would have waited for the kindle fire 2 but I have a feeling the kf2 could have a locked boot loader.
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im just gonna give my mom my kindle fire and buy the n7 when it comes out. can't wait
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... and a Micro SD card slot, then this could be a real new competitor.
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where does it say it has a SD slot?
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where does it say it has a SD slot?
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He's saying if it does it will be a good competitor.
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i have a Nexus 7 on pre-order (through JR.com no tax free shipping, before the Slickdeals effect rippled through, we'll see if the pre-order actually sticks), but am tossed up on whether to sell the KF or simply keep it b/c i bought it during the last $139 refurbished Amazon sale and it's still awesome w/ the various CM9 ROMs and great Dev support here. truth be told, the KF w/ CM9 (currently running twa_priv's SGT7 build) does everything i need. don't need the mic or front camera, KF is more than snappy enough for my daily use, screen resolution @ my normal viewing distances is perfectly fine, etc.
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i have a Nexus 7 on pre-order (through JR.com no tax free shipping, before the Slickdeals effect rippled through, we'll see if the pre-order actually sticks), but am tossed up on whether to sell the KF or simply keep it b/c i bought it during the last $139 refurbished Amazon sale and it's still awesome w/ the various CM9 ROMs and great Dev support here. truth be told, the KF w/ CM9 (currently running twa_priv's SGT7 build) does everything i need. don't need the mic or front camera, KF is more than snappy enough for my daily use, screen resolution @ my normal viewing distances is perfectly fine, etc.
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Same here. I want the Nexus 7 just because its a nexus, but considering how little I use my KF its not worth the time/effort to sell it and buy a N7
I'll definitely be going after the Nexus tab... Worth it for the "Nexus" part at the least... Going to roll the fire back to stock and give it to a relative...
I preordered because I know the development is gonna be super alive. I'm keeping my kfire cuz it was cheap but the N7 is everything I wish the kfire was. I love what the kfire has become but I need bluetooth, I've learned to live without it but its something I've had a hard tine letting go.
I have 4 otg cables and multiple usb drives and bluetooth adapters. I'm dedicated, but still miss certain features lol
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I love the KF especially due to all the hard work hascode and everyone else have put into getting ICS to work, but I pre-ordered the N7 as soon as I could. The N7 is closer to what I want in a tab. I'm going to let the kids use the KF for a gaming platform and I'll continue to flash the latest and greatest builds on it.
im not switching because im way too caught up in porting JellyBean.... Maybe sometime later i will CONSIDER the Nexus 7
sod it i'm having both (if i can install new motherboard on bricked one)
the kindle is a great device for tinkering/learning but that N7 look's super
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im not switching because im way too caught up in porting JellyBean.... Maybe sometime later i will CONSIDER the Nexus 7
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If I could get a good price for my Fire, I would sell it, but some "dealer" is flooding CL with $75-80 Kindle Fire's, so there is no chance of getting a good price for it.
So if I'm going to buy a tablet outright again, it has to have everything I want...which means MicroSD/SD slot. No more compromises for me.
I am saving up for a surface pro. Kindle fire is my really portable tablet that does everything I need it to, I can't play prime on N7 and I don't own any google music. It's all on Amazon. I am not a fan of any particular corporation. I go with my needs and my need not to waste money. Kindle was the right prize last November and I didn't have a tablet. N7 is the right prize now but not the right time, I already have a table that does what I want. My next tablet will hopefully replace my aging laptop. (I hope!).
Not right now for me. KF does everything I need/want. I COULD use a FFC but I have my Rezound, laptop, and desktop for that so there's really no point. I'll put it this way: When a $199 tablet comes out with everything I want (N7 is missing removable storage), then I'll upgrade. As it stands, the N7 isn't a big enough leap forward.
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it seems a key in the KF HD& new KF, when you boot it ，the machine will check the key，if not match， it wont boot.
so i will wait for some guys to crack it when KF HD& NEW KF in the market in the future
it means we can't flash other rom
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it seems a key in the KF HD& new KF, when you boot it ，the machine will check the key，if not match， it wont boot.
so i will wate some guys to crack it when KF HD& NEW KF in the market in the future
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Your source?
Well there hasn't been a official statement from amazon, but rumor is that there will be a boot loader is in all of the new fires. So yes, if this is true, then the kindle will go into a soft brick that can be unbricked by other means, but t will not boot if the bootliader is not correct.
I hope is isn't the case tho, I preordered the fire HD 8.9inch and wouldn't want to brick it by attempting to put a custom boot loader on my self):
I would seriously consider the consequences of buying one if you have any plans of modifying it. If Amazon's history with our current devices is any indication of what's to come, a lot of people may very well get screwed out of the deal. And if Pokey is correct, and the new KFs have the same OMAP security as the Nook tablet, you might as well give up on it because the new KFs won't have an external SD slot to boot from. You'll get stuck with one crappy, advertisement riddled, non-customizable, crippled, overpriced reader, that's as buggy (if not more) than the original.
I definitely wouldn't buy one in the hopes that it will get modified unless you have the technical know-how to get it done yourself.
That is, IMNSHO of course.
amazon is trying to copy apple. Of course they would do that
it sounds like the boot loader would have to be rewritten some how, and that in its self seems unlikely
kindle fire hd or nexus 7?
if amazon does this they are just trashing their product. i am very tempted to return my nexus 7 which has such bad build quality.
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if amazon does this they are just trashing their product. i am very tempted to return my nexus 7 which has such bad build quality.
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My Nexus build quality is great.
On topic I was mildly interested in Fire HD just for Prime content and wanting to see if a ROM was developed. No ROM, no way. Will be following the subject.
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if amazon does this they are just trashing their product. i am very tempted to return my nexus 7 which has such bad build quality.
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My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
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My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
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And even more so when they're buying a product for around $200 when all the comparable competitor's products are selling for $400+.
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My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
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If it isn't 100% perfect, then I wouldn't call it great quality myself.
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And even more so when they're buying a product for around $200 when all the comparable competitor's products are selling for $400+.
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The $200 excuse kinda came to an end when Amazon announced the Fire HD at $200. For Android enthusiasts and XDA readers it's probably not going to be that big a deal, but I believe the Kindle Fire HD will be very popular to the general public.
And it does trump a few of the Nexus 7's weak points.
Better screen with more vibrant colors.
Better wifi with 5GHz and MIMO support.
Better storage capacity at the same prices.
Better speakers.
And HDMI output.
The Nexus 7 has performance and apps on it's side, which are obviously extremely important to many of us.
I'll not replace my Nexus 7, but if the Kindle Fire HD can be rooted and Google Play installed, I just might get one.
PS... And B&N isn't done yet. They supposedly have something coming soon too. Microsoft invested $200 million with them, perhaps some kind of $200 Windows tablet? They promise a revolutionary screen and they've generally included micro SD slots so far too, hope that continues. I just hope they get away from that raised plastic bezel, so annoying with apps that use off screen swipes.
chrisbd1 said:
My Nexus build quality is great.
On topic I was mildly interested in Fire HD just for Prime content and wanting to see if a ROM was developed. No ROM, no way. Will be following the subject.
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huniper said:
My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
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Willieumm said:
And even more so when they're buying a product for around $200 when all the comparable competitor's products are selling for $400+.
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Ravynmagi said:
If it isn't 100% perfect, then I wouldn't call it great quality myself.
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The $200 excuse kinda came to an end when Amazon announced the Fire HD at $200. For Android enthusiasts and XDA readers it's probably not going to be that big a deal, but I believe the Kindle Fire HD will be very popular to the general public.
And it does trump a few of the Nexus 7's weak points.
Better screen with more vibrant colors.
Better wifi with 5GHz and MIMO support.
Better storage capacity at the same prices.
Better speakers.
And HDMI output.
The Nexus 7 has performance and apps on it's side, which are obviously extremely important to many of us.
I'll not replace my Nexus 7, but if the Kindle Fire HD can be rooted and Google Play installed, I just might get one.
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Seriously? I think we're getting WAAAAY off topic here.
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Seriously? I think we're getting WAAAAY off topic here.
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You are right. Just hard not to respond to the comments brought up.
Bezos said he doesn't care if you root
I read on Engadget after the announcement that Engadget asked Bezos about people rooting and running custom ROM's. Bezos' response was that as long as your still buying from Amazon, he doen't care. So, I guess we'll see. Mine has already made it to the UPS Distro Center in my city and it got there a little after Noon today. I should have it in the morning!!!! As a Student Prime member, I would love it if we could get rid of the ads without paying the $15.
The reason I bought the original fire is because i wanted to root it. The fact is, the stock kindle fire is crap if you're a power user.
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Confirmed, Fire 2 and Fire HD 7" have signed bootloaders.
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Confirmed, Fire 2 and Fire HD 7" have signed bootloaders.
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Has anyone tested to see if the factory cable still works?
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Has anyone tested to see if the factory cable still works?
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yes，factory cable still work.
but i don't know flash what kind of bootloader,because when i flash u-boot of kindle fire 1 ,it can't boot normally
The bootloader is one thing. Custom recovery is a completely different animal. Is the same OMAP security applied to the stock recovery?
I was thinking about buying an 8.9 inch one along with my 7" one. But, until this boot loader stuff is figured out. No way.
bournezhang said:
yes，factory cable still work.
but i don't know flash what kind of bootloader,because when i flash u-boot of kindle fire 1 ,it can't boot normally
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Probably doubtful, but does anyone have the bootloader, recovery, system images for the Fire HD 7" yet?
I don't need it, but wouldn't mind having it I do have a factory cable for my original Fire and multitude of Motorola phones...
So my parents currently own 2 android phones htc desire s and wildfire s.
They talk a bit about ipads and how it would be usefull, but I have feeling thats only cause they havent heard of android tablets yet.
They play smaller games like wordfeud, angry birds and well simple games. They do read alot of news and some youtube and like simple apps and reason Im not asking them is cause I would love to surprise them with a tablet as a christmas present.
And then ofc I have something to play with when im home
So yeah my question is do you think this would be a good tablet for them to share or is there something better for their kinda use?
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So my parents currently own 2 android phones htc desire s and wildfire s.
They talk a bit about ipads and how it would be usefull, but I have feeling thats only cause they havent heard of android tablets yet.
They play smaller games like wordfeud, angry birds and well simple games. They do read alot of news and some youtube and like simple apps and reason Im not asking them is cause I would love to surprise them with a tablet as a christmas present.
And then ofc I have something to play with when im home
So yeah my question is do you think this would be a good tablet for them to share or is there something better for their kinda use?
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Its a quality present !
Dont forget it can be used as not only a tablet but a Kindle etc, as it has books and stuff.
I think theyd love it.
Wilks3y said:
Its a quality present !
Dont forget it can be used as not only a tablet but a Kindle etc, as it has books and stuff.
I think theyd love it.
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Yeah havent even really thought about that part, but guessing that with the size it would be a nice book replacement.
And yeah their still kinda android noobs, but in my experience android is only getting easier and prettier to use, so hopefully they would love it
And it s multiuser when iPad is single pilot....
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And yeah their still kinda android noobs, but in my experience android is only getting easier and prettier to use, so hopefully they would love it
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If they are still reasonably new to the whole idea of smart phones and tablets, Then the nexus 7 is by far the obvious choice. Simply for the reason that it is running on the same/similar os to the phones that they have and so getting to grips with it will be a much easier experience for them.
It is also far cheaper than ipad, if you find that they really like it you could get them a second one for a present next time around for the total cost of 1 iPad.
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Well yes, the size and specs alone make it very ideal, not to mention to the price. Also the ability to add multiple users could also be very useful for them.
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So my parents currently own 2 android phones htc desire s and wildfire s.
They talk a bit about ipads and how it would be usefull, but I have feeling thats only cause they havent heard of android tablets yet.
They play smaller games like wordfeud, angry birds and well simple games. They do read alot of news and some youtube and like simple apps and reason Im not asking them is cause I would love to surprise them with a tablet as a christmas present.
And then ofc I have something to play with when im home
So yeah my question is do you think this would be a good tablet for them to share or is there something better for their kinda use?
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Im pretty sure by "iPads" they mean all tablets, it's just that ipad is the most recognizable.
I wouldnt bother them with yet another OS (iOS), if they're kinda used to android, its better. Then again, HTCs android 4.0 looks COMPLETELY different than Googles android 4.2.1. It might me an issue, but still, it looks more similar then to iOS.
Nexus 7 is cool because you can fit it in one hand, which might be helpful (you know how elderly people always look up thing (like newspaper) up close and lift their glasses a little ).
While android <2.3 was very geeky and didn't look all that pretty compared to iOS at the time, things have changed, android has become very user friendly, even for newbies.
I have an 88 year old grampa here with an original Motorola Droid... I got him this tablet and he loves it to death... everything is familiar with it being android and the size is perfect
"If I could make phone calls on this damn thing I'd throw that other piece of $#:% away"
He thinks phones should be this size so they're easier to see...
Should be good.. Or I hope so, got my mom a 32gb for Christmas.
She's got a galaxy s2 for her phone. And also has a viewsonic g-tab from the woot-off. That one was a mistake for sure from a normal end-user perspective and it kind of gave her a bad taste of android.
She also has the original Nook Color. Which at this point is just pretty well aged. And she never let me touch that one, so its still running the crap Barnes and noble software.
She's always said she wants an ipad. But it will be a cold day in hell before I buy an apple product so that ain't happening. Especially for double the cost.
And actually, I've also got the g-tablet, and a transfomer prime, and those mainly collect dust since I've gotten the nexus 7. It's the perfect size, I carry it with me everywhere. An additional reason I think, even if she had an iPad as well, the nexus would still get more use.
The phablet interface will make it pretty easy to go from their phones to that, without to much confusion. DO IT.
Wow!! Just because someone is older doesn't mean they are dumb or slow!! I am 66 and certainly no techie. I have to stay out of the dev sections because most of the time I have no idea what they are talking about. But, I have a Captivate running AOKP Milestone 1 (currently being used as a multimedia device), my wife's Infuse running PACman, my GNote running PACman, my N7 running unofficial AOKP 4.2 and last but not least, my two year old NookColor running PA 2.9.9.....and running it very nicely!!
Get them the N7.....they will love it and will love you for getting for them. But, one word of warning.......they will probably not be happy sharing it.....so be prepared to buy another!!!!!:thumbup:
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Wow!! Just because someone is older doesn't mean they are dumb or slow!! I am 66 and certainly no techie. I have to stay out of the dev sections because most of the time I have no idea what they are talking about. But, I have a Captivate running AOKP Milestone 1 (currently being used as a multimedia device), my wife's Infuse running PACman, my GNote running PACman, my N7 running unofficial AOKP 4.2 and last but not least, my two year old NookColor running PA 2.9.9.....and running it very nicely!!
Get them the N7.....they will love it and will love you for getting for them. But, one word of warning.......they will probably not be happy sharing it.....so be prepared to buy another!!!!!:thumbup:
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If this was reply to my comment, I wasn't implying that at all, I'm just following my personal experience with my grandparents, one grandma can handle a PC for basic operations (skype, gmail, internet, office), while my other grandparents get confused by the new way then need to watch TV with the box that the cable company provided them, and they consider a good phone one that has massive keys.
I did show them the N7 the other day, and they were fascinated, they just don't really want it or don't find any use for it.
Of course, everyone's different
b00mb00mchuck said:
I have an 88 year old grampa here with an original Motorola Droid... I got him this tablet and he loves it to death... everything is familiar with it being android and the size is perfect
"If I could make phone calls on this damn thing I'd throw that other piece of $#:% away"
He thinks phones should be this size so they're easier to see...
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Download Groove IP from play store. It works using Google Voice and there are no fees within US and Canada. I haven't personally used it or set it up, but I plan on it once I give the Nexus 7 to my dad. If you do a youtube search you can find a video on setting it up if you have trouble.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snrblabs.grooveip
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Bought a Nexus 7 32GB version yesterday and gifted it to my self. Overall I really do like the specs on the device and how the device handles. I was using a Kindle Fire which was running JB 4.1.2.
While the Kindle Fire was running JB smooth without any problems that I seen. I just felt like something was missing as in some features which was lacking. I since then flashed the Kindle Fire back to default and sold the device.
I can say for 100% I'm a lot more happy owning the Nexus 7 then the Kindle Fire I had. Sometimes when using voice search in order to search for something. It really makes me want to laugh at times cause I said one thing. It thinks I said 'p0rn' which was not even close to what I said.
But I won't hold that the device's fault since I do have a minor speech impediment. But them the Nexus 7 they will love the device I'm sure of it.