Root, is it worth it? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have my non rooted n7 and i have my rooted desire. I originally wanted to keep this stock and to enjoy its beauty out of the box.
However, i really want the tablet home screen, not the tablet status bar, softkeys or the phone ui in landscape. Just the type of launcher(home screen and app drawer) you get on other tablets. Now I really want to root to get a custom rom that does this but along with that comes some cons.
First is I want the ota's as this will be the first to get them as it is googles stock.
Second, I want Google wallet when it comes out in the UK on an ota, but Google warn users that rooting adds risk to gwallet which sounds bad. However I will get it earlier if i root, so I'm in a muddle ATM.
Lastly is if I do install a custom rom, it may have bugs cause the nexus just came out, can somebody maybe recommend a stable rom that suits my choice of a tablet launcher and a high benchmark rank. Do some apps and games fail to run on custom ROMs?
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Doesn't sound like you need to root, sounds like you just need a new launcher. Try Nova Launcher or Apex Launcher. OK, granted, you can't really do anything about the notification/status bar without going to a different ROM but maybe just give another launcher a try and see what you think. If that doesn't do it for you then maybe consider rooting and going with a mod that gives you a different status bar.

Originally, I said I don't want to change the soft keys and status bar plus I've tried Nova, but that's just the landscape phone ui and apex is bugged.
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I admit, I'm confused. How does a tablet home screen differ from a phone home screen?
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There is no left search bar in the tablet launcher, instead it is in the top left. Niether is there a dock, the app drawer shortcut is in the top right.
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i.amtom said:
There is no left search bar in the tablet launcher, instead it is in the top left. Niether is there a dock, the app drawer shortcut is in the top right.
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If those things are important to you then, yes, you'll probably have to root and install a new ROM but I don't know of any that'll address your needs, sorry. Guess I should've kept my mouth shut in the first place
Btw, do you want to use a tablet launcher in portrait or landscape? Honestly, I rarely use my Nexus 7 in landscape.
The dock is an option on all the launchers I've used. I've turned it off in each one. And I open my app drawer with an upward gesture on Nova and Apex. And I've turned off the search bar ... or I just don't notice it.
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short/y said:
If those things are important to you then, yes, you'll probably have to root and install a new ROM but I don't know of any that'll address your needs, sorry. Guess I should've kept my mouth shut in the first place
Btw, do you want to use a tablet launcher in portrait or landscape? Honestly, I rarely use my Nexus 7 in landscape.
The dock is an option on all the launchers I've used. I've turned it off in each one. And I open my app drawer with an upward gesture on Nova and Apex. And I've turned off the search bar ... or I just don't notice it.
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I was after landscape, but I think I'll stick without root, I just really want to try gwallet out but no date or anything has been given for the UK, and I'm 100% stores have it available...
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Tablet UI Questions

1. How do I put the N7 into Tablet UI? After its been rooted.
2. Is there any problems with the Tablet UI?
3. Do you think that it is better than the Hybrid UI?
4. Does the market not work after do you change it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28236854
Some have problems with booting after changing, search for posts on dpi
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kboya said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28236854
Some have problems with booting after changing, search for posts on dpi
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i just did it on the krakd rom, it would not boot properly, i also lost my root. and cwm would not boot.
managed to get flash cwm again and restor.
i think i will just wait until there is more development on the nex7, im not a noob, but i like noob proof tools, i wanted to cry lol
bcvictory said:
1. How do I put the N7 into Tablet UI? After its been rooted.
2. Is there any problems with the Tablet UI?
3. Do you think that it is better than the Hybrid UI?
4. Does the market not work after do you change it?
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1) Use ES file explorer as root and edit build.prop LCD density to 160.
2) Not that I know of.
3) 100%
4) Works perfectly.
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I prefer portrait for most things, but like to use landscape on the homescreen when exiting a landscape app, so I will most likely use a launcher that supports rotation.
I just tried the Nova beta that supports JB, but on my Tab 2 7.0.
I'm starting to see why people are wanting the tablet UI back. I can only imagine it will be worse on N7 with the nav bar on the right side / notification bar at the top when in landscape.
What I would really like to see is a mod that will:
1) Resize the nav bar to 35dpi (47px) while keeping the notification bar 33px. This will give a usable screen of 800x1200 in portrait.
2) Move the nav bar and dock to the bottom of the screen in landscape (rather than keeping them on the right side of the screen). This would yield a usable screen size of 1280x720 (with the notification bar at the top).
For me, this would be the best mix of Tablet UI and Jellybean portrait only UI. So basically, the way ICS worked, but with the notifications moved to the top. And hopefully this can be done without editing the device DPI and causing all sorts of issues.
i used 170 dpi....loaded the go launcher............ gorgeous!!!
patterone said:
i used 170 dpi....loaded the go launcher............ gorgeous!!!
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170 will not see all apps after cache is cleared from Google play.
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i dont understand... what does that mean and how do i prevent it???
I'll be waiting until devs get their hands on their N7's and build a modified navbar in roms, perhaps like in ParanoidAndroid.

Tablet Talk Icon Change?

I amusing the Tablet talk app all the time now because testing is so much easier on the N7 than my Inspire 4g. I was wondering if there was a way to change the icon to the regular jellybean messaging icon so it would look more like it belongs with all the other icons in my dock. If so could it be done without root. I want to keep this unroothed and clean for entertainment purposes where as I have my I4g rooted and running Jellybean and my Transformer Prime rooted and tweaked as well for any of my Dev wants or needs. Thanks for any help.
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There are lots of apps and launchers that will let you change icons. I use Icon Renamer and it works pretty well.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dmate.scpro
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[POLL] Stock vs tablet workspace

I would like to start this to see how many people use tablet workspace since it seems only a few roms seem to be embracing this. Please state what rom you are using and what you use to trigger tablet mode.
I am using PA 2.1.1 with small tab ui
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Stock rom rooted, rom toolbox to change my dpi, loving tablet mode just like paranoid on my phone
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PA 2.1 tablet ui (mid).
Don't like roms that shrink the nav bar too much either!
E_Goldstein said:
Stock rom rooted, rom toolbox to change my dpi, loving tablet mode just like paranoid on my phone
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I'm using tablet ui, liking it a lot
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Stock, rooted 4.1.1 here.
Used the local.prop DPI setting to get it into tablet mode and use the app "Set Orientation" to force the last remains (like lockscreen) into landscape for total tablet experience to my likes
Also I'm using GoLauncherEx, which works fine for me landscaped.
Alot of you are using a depreciated method of forcing tabUI by using dpi hacks. IMHO only sgt7 and PA are the only seamless roms that do this well. PA also lets you choose the navbar height independently.
Personally I would never run phabletUI on my tablet. That sounds funny
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PA 2.1 Phablet mode!!
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Alot of you are using a depreciated method of forcing tabUI by using dpi hacks.
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I wouldn't call it "depricated", I'd call it "the savest and most less intrusive way".
I don't want to flash a different ROM and I don't have to edit any system files - #1 way of doing it for me. And it works just fine
Running PA 2.1 full tablet and loving it.
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HellcatDroid said:
I wouldn't call it "depricated", I'd call it "the savest and most less intrusive way".
I don't want to flash a different ROM and I don't have to edit any system files - #1 way of doing it for me. And it works just fine
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It may seem like its working fine but when I did it that way many apps were gone from my market (google play music, wallet off the top of my head) and the copy/paste bar was nowhere to be found when editing text.
Of course I could have messed something up and yours could be fine.
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xopher.hunter said:
It may seem like its working fine but when I did it that way many apps were gone from my market (google play music, wallet off the top of my head) and the copy/paste bar was nowhere to be found when editing text.
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About the apps, maybe I just got lucky so far and the ones I use on my N/ don't set the compatibility stuff in the way that makes them appear to be incompatible with the N7.
About the copy/paste bar, I just tried and yes, it's "gone" like you say.
But I use GoKeyboard and that has copy/paste buttons as well, so I can live with that for now

Best launcher app for Nexus 10?

Hi,
What launchers are people using?
Which would be the best to be using on a table/Nexus 10. I really dont like the buttons in the middle, and would like the option to increase number of rows/columns on the screen too. Maybe some desktop gestures?
Thanks
stock
Sounds like you need Nova launcher. It's the gestures that make it a winner.
phemark said:
Hi,
What launchers are people using?
Which would be the best to be using on a table/Nexus 10. I really dont like the buttons in the middle, and would like the option to increase number of rows/columns on the screen too. Maybe some desktop gestures?
Thanks
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I'm using Apex, works great
n1r0k said:
I'm using Apex, works great
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I haven't tried Apex on a N10 yet, but it would be the first 3rd-party launcher I would try, if that means anything
I'm using Go launcher HD. It is not on play store yet, gotta go to the go launcher website and find the apk. Pretty nice, has gestures and lots of customization. The 3 main android buttons are sstill in the middle... I don't think launchers alone can change that.
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phemark said:
Hi,
What launchers are people using?
Which would be the best to be using on a table/Nexus 10. I really dont like the buttons in the middle, and would like the option to increase number of rows/columns on the screen too. Maybe some desktop gestures?
Thanks
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If you're talking about the navigation buttons (back, home, recents), then you can't change that with a launcher. Launcher is only your homescreen. The navigation bar is part of the systemui.apk
Go for apex
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Configured Apex, works fine.
Do you know if plus version gives two finger system menu?
And how to change buttons from the middle to the side?
Apex and Nova both do what I want.. they seem pretty similar. What I can't figure out is if one of them is better in terms of battery usage, speed, stability, etc? Apex on my Nexus 7 had a bug where icon/folder labels disappeared when I rotated the device, so I switched to Nova. The Apex dev said he would fix that in the next update though.
Nova. Loved the ability to overlap widgets.
Nova and Apex Launcher are the two most widely used launchers and offer basically the same features on both and will do anything you need. SS Launcher is also good but is much more "difficult" to set up perfect since it has no grid, you just drag whatever you want wherever you want.
This one might be good for some users too:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jaGFtZWxlb25sYXVuY2hlciJd
phemark said:
Hi,
What launchers are people using?
Which would be the best to be using on a table/Nexus 10. I really dont like the buttons in the middle, and would like the option to increase number of rows/columns on the screen too. Maybe some desktop gestures?
Thanks
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I like the stock launcher enough, but I'm using Apex launcher so that I can use gestures (I have swipe up launch the app tray, swipe down launch settings, and pinch does the homescreen expose). I think Nova is supposed to be pretty good too; when ICS came out, Apex and Nova were the two most popular ICS launchers. I tried them and remember liking them both, but thought that Apex was smoother, however that was a long time ago and Nova may be just as smooth or even smoother for all I know.
Also, I like that Apex (and maybe Nova as well) has the option to keep the launcher in memory, I don't know if it just raises the OoM value or what but I hate hitting home and then needing to wait for things to reload. I don't know if this would happen much on the N10 but it happened all of the time on my TF201 if I didn't set it to stay in memory.
Also, I know this is a mater of opinion, but I can't imagine wanting to get rid of the navigation buttons! Do you use the recent apps button very much? For me, once I got in the habit of using it and not pressing home every time I wanted to switch apps, I really loved it.
I have Nova Launcher... Here is a screenshot. I know its cluttered and needs sorting but you get the idea. Everything is super quick.
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what is that weather widget you're using?
hahnsdroid said:
I have Nova Launcher... Here is a screenshot. I know its cluttered and needs sorting but you get the idea. Everything is super quick.
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I'm using stock for now. I use nova on my phone, but the dock at the bottom is far cleaner join the stock launcher, than nova, at the moment. Plus the drawer and search buttons in the corner are no longer needed. I'll use nova when the ui gets patched for the new tablet layouts.
Using the weather widget from HD Widgets.
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hahnsdroid said:
Using the weather widget from HD Widgets.
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Damn! That's crowded desktop.
hahnsdroid said:
Using the weather widget from HD Widgets.
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Are you having ocasional freezes and crashes?
HD widgets it's reported to cause freezes and crashes.
Hey nope, non whatsoever. All good here.
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how to add extra icons to home sbar or whatever you call it

the bar at the bottom of the nexus 4 which has 5 icons, the messaing, phone, chrome camera and the menu at middle. HOW DO I ADD ANOTHER ICON IN THAT BAR? i need 6.
jinjin12 said:
the bar at the bottom of the nexus 4 which has 5 icons, the messaing, phone, chrome camera and the menu at middle. HOW DO I ADD ANOTHER ICON IN THAT BAR? i need 6.
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Use third party Launcher, such as Apex or Nova
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.launcher
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
THANKS FOR YELLING. @#@#$%@
KyraOfFire said:
Use third party Launcher, such as Apex or Nova
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anddoes.launcher
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
THANKS FOR YELLING. @#@#$%@
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those launcher are crap and sluggish. i've already used them. tried many launchers already, they all suck and waste battery life. there's no way to do this without installing any apps or custom roms?
Nope
I am afraid I have to answer that stock launcher can't have 6 icons on the dock.
Either third party launcher or a system mod.
Pretty sure if you feel lag on those launchers it's something with your phone not the launchers. And calm down man, so hostile for no reason
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KyraOfFire said:
I am afraid I have to answer that stock launcher can't have 6 icons on the dock.
Either third party launcher or a system mod.
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I'm a total novice but my Nexus 7 has 6 icons and is the same OS.
Might there be a way to fiddle the settings? (eg screen resolution)
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Because the Nexus 7 has a bigger screen so its stock ROM was designed with more room for icons.
Yes, you can play with the system settings.... but why would you want to do so if there are ROMs/apps out there that do those thing perfectly fine?
I won't stop you from playing with your phone or developing your own ROM though
Edit: And Apex is fantastic. I used it from version 0.3, never lagged or slow (well, except for a few beta builds)
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drpepe said:
I'm a total novice but my Nexus 7 has 6 icons and is the same OS.
Might there be a way to fiddle the settings? (eg screen resolution)
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Thats like saying you should be able to fit the same amount of words onto an A4 that you did using an A3 paper.
While using the same size font.
lunzi88 said:
Thats like saying you should be able to fit the same amount of words onto an A4 that you did using an A3 paper.
While using the same size font.
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As I said, I know nothing of the technical aspects of this.
However, I have changed buildprop to alter icon sizes , so it seemed at least a bit plausible...
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nothing about nova or apex is going to slow you down. you will never know its there. promise. and you get mad customizing from them. i dont use apex, but with nova you can speed up the animations and screen swipes. these arent go launchers by the way. these are launchers that some devs will pack in their roms because they run so seamlessly.

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