Any reason to root? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

For the first time in owning an android device I'm asking this question. When I got my Captivate, Samsung and AT&T were jerking us around with our Froyo update, and it was about 4 months outdated already, so I rooted to put Froyo on, and later I put CM7 on it, as well as a million other roms lol. My Flyer I rooted so I could put faster roms, and ICS as it was on honeycomb and laggy, and my Vivid I rooted because sense made ICS look like gingerbread way too much and I wanted to tweak with the UI so Sense wasn't so intrusive.
But the Nexus had only one thing I didn't like, and that was the phone launcher, and I was able to fix that by just installing Apex. Now its pretty much perfect. No stupid Sense or Touchwiz skins ruining it, no bloatware, and its completley up to date at 4.1.1. So can someone give me a good reason to root? Not a bad problem to have lol,

Cor-master said:
For the first time in owning an android device I'm asking this question. When I got my Captivate, Samsung and AT&T were jerking us around with our Froyo update, and it was about 4 months outdated already, so I rooted to put Froyo on, and later I put CM7 on it, as well as a million other roms lol. My Flyer I rooted so I could put faster roms, and ICS as it was on honeycomb and laggy, and my Vivid I rooted because sense made ICS look like gingerbread way too much and I wanted to tweak with the UI so Sense wasn't so intrusive.
But the Nexus had only one thing I didn't like, and that was the phone launcher, and I was able to fix that by just installing Apex. Now its pretty much perfect. No stupid Sense or Touchwiz skins ruining it, no bloatware, and its completley up to date at 4.1.1. So can someone give me a good reason to root? Not a bad problem to have lol,
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You seem to be confusing rooting with custom recovery/system/kernel. Rooting has many benefits giving you greater system access and root apps. I won't go into detail because a Google search can tell you more.
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Cor-master said:
For the first time in owning an android device I'm asking this question. When I got my Captivate, Samsung and AT&T were jerking us around with our Froyo update, and it was about 4 months outdated already, so I rooted to put Froyo on, and later I put CM7 on it, as well as a million other roms lol. My Flyer I rooted so I could put faster roms, and ICS as it was on honeycomb and laggy, and my Vivid I rooted because sense made ICS look like gingerbread way too much and I wanted to tweak with the UI so Sense wasn't so intrusive.
But the Nexus had only one thing I didn't like, and that was the phone launcher, and I was able to fix that by just installing Apex. Now its pretty much perfect. No stupid Sense or Touchwiz skins ruining it, no bloatware, and its completley up to date at 4.1.1. So can someone give me a good reason to root? Not a bad problem to have lol,
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to make great even better.. why would you need a reason for that?

simms22 said:
to make great even better.. why would you need a reason for that?
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And to add to that sentiment... because we can
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Metallice said:
You seem to be confusing rooting with custom recovery/system/kernel. Rooting has many benefits giving you greater system access and root apps. I won't go into detail because a Google search can tell you more.
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But it all starts with root access and whatever means it takes to achieve that because if you don't have root access you can't modify anything!
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Any reason to ask this question in a new thread? You've already answered your own question.
I had the exact same feelings as you...after 7 Android devices, this is the first time I had no desire to unlock/root/flash my new toy.
Feeling that the N7 was set up beautifully, the ONLY reason I had to root was for the REAL TABLET UI. Using a custom launcher with rotate enabled is not true tablet mode. I figured I'd try it, since my N7 would be rooted eventually anyway.
So that's a good reason...true tablet mode.

Yeah I actually kind of like the hybrid mode, I kept bumping the virtual buttons with my fingers on the Flyer while I was typing or gaming.
But I just was curious as to why people were rooting, made the thread for suggestions more than anything lol
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jaycustom said:
Any reason to ask this question in a new thread? You've already answered your own question.
I had the exact same feelings as you...after 7 Android devices, this is the first time I had no desire to unlock/root/flash my new toy.
Feeling that the N7 was set up beautifully, the ONLY reason I had to root was for the REAL TABLET UI. Using a custom launcher with rotate enabled is not true tablet mode. I figured I'd try it, since my N7 would be rooted eventually anyway.
So that's a good reason...true tablet mode.
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also, if keeping the stock rom/launcher, you need root to edit the build.prop file so that you can have autorotate on the home screen.

Two apps... Titanium Backup and Stickmount.
Yeah, there are more, but these two root only apps are awesome.
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I am considering rooting for ps3 controller compatibility, does it work on the nexus?
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Cor-master said:
I am considering rooting for ps3 controller compatibility, does it work on the nexus?
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works great tried with dead trigger and gta3...
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Yeah my freaking flyer didn't work even rooted because of some stupid HTC specific Bluetooth standard, would be great for a super nes emulator
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I root my phone for apps like adfree, so you can't see adds on apps and this is epic.
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Where are all the roms

Nexus s has been out for like 2 weeks and almost every phone is getting a port of some sort of gingerbread or nexus s clone but where is sense ui for ns or touch wiz or anything
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gotgadget said:
Nexus s has been out for like 2 weeks and almost every phone is getting a port of some sort of gingerbread or nexus s clone but where is sense ui for ns or touch wiz or anything
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I thought you were porting it....silly me!
Not for free
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Sure its been 2 weeks, but keep in mind its the holidays.... The devs could:
a) work on custom ROMs
b) spend time with family like normal people
gotgadget said:
Nexus s has been out for like 2 weeks and almost every phone is getting a port of some sort of gingerbread or nexus s clone but where is sense ui for ns or touch wiz or anything
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Are you seriously complaining that there aren't enough roms after 2 weeks (never mind it being christmas and stuff)?? Wow, your sense of entitlement is quite amazing! Never mind bothering to recognize all the good stuff that has come out already (cyanogen alpha, modaco r2, voodoo kernel, 2.3.1 update ports, market fixes, rooting scripts etc)
Think about it, everyone is dying to get the newest google software update (kinda the reason most of us got this phone) so it's quite understandable everyone is working on gingerbread ports. Why on earth would you expect the same enthusiasm for downgrading by porting sense or touch wiz to a phone already running android 2.3? Not saying it won't happen but it's understandably not the first thing on everyone's priority list (yours excluded).
Oh and thanks for taking the time to read the guidelines for what belongs in the development section. It's people like you that make xda great!
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c_licious said:
Are you seriously complaining that there aren't enough roms after 2 weeks (never mind it being christmas and stuff)?? Wow, your sense of entitlement is quite amazing! Never mind bothering to recognize all the good stuff that has come out already (cyanogen alpha, modaco r2, voodoo kernel, 2.3.1 update ports, market fixes, rooting scripts etc)
Think about it, everyone is dying to get the newest google software update (kinda the reason most of us got this phone) so it's quite understandable everyone is working on gingerbread ports. Why on earth would you expect the same enthusiasm for downgrading by porting sense or touch wiz to a phone already running android 2.3? Not saying it won't happen but it's understandably not the first thing on everyone's priority list (yours excluded).
Oh and thanks for taking the time to read the guidelines for what belongs in the development section. It's people like you that make xda great!
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Yupp
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c_licious said:
Why on earth would you expect the same enthusiasm for downgrading by porting sense or touch wiz to a phone already running android 2.3?
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^^^^^ Ding ding ding we have a winner!
I'm sure we'll start seeing alot more attempts at SenseUI/TouchWiz ports once those phones receive their 2.3 upgrades.
Go buy an iPhone, you n00b
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Closing this thread as it's really not going anywhere productive

Kindle Fire on Nook Color

Hi developers...I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right section, and forgive me if I am...as you know the kindle Fire system dump has been out... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295928&page=3 . It has been ported to the Samsung galaxy tablet ... http://gigaom.com/mobile/so-i-turned-my-galaxy-tab-into-a-kindle-fire/ ... I was wondering if this can be done on our nook colors ...If a developer can do this...it would be awesome...I would try if I knew how to.. thank you in advance..and once again I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong section
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Sounds like a big job with processor differences and all. Have you lost your love for cm?
Ian
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ianPhillips1 said:
Sounds like a big job with processor differences and all. Have you lost your love for cm?
Ian
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Not really a big job considering its based on the AOSP source. In all reality its just porting the main launcher onto the code. You can use all the proprietaries from cm.
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I am just wondering why anyone would want to......
patruns said:
I am just wondering why anyone would want to......
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why not, just cause you dont want to have it doesnt mean others will, its all about choices when it comes to android and the more choices we have the better our experience will be
I'd do it...if only to show the flexibility of the NC. Still have no interest in actually BUYING a Kindle Fire though. Still enjoying CM7
I'm gonna try and port it through android kitchen (no guarantees though), this sounds like a great idea to me. Someone with more experience dev'ing should try it as well.
Any luck guys...the launcher on cm7 force closes for me
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A bit off topic, but If your launcher is FCing, try launcher pro instead. It works for me on CM7 sd install, and rooted stock.
You could also try an older cm7 install.
As for the fire, I would play with it out of curiosity, but I like the rooted stock for everyday use.
~Leko
lekofraggle said:
A bit off topic, but If your launcher is FCing, try launcher pro instead. It works for me on CM7 sd install, and rooted stock.
You could also try an older cm7 install.
As for the fire, I would play with it out of curiosity, but I like the rooted stock for everyday use.
~Leko
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I meant the kindle fire launcher
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I see, sorry. I was wondering how that would work.
Not knowing much about the system, would you need it to sync to the cloud? If yes, authentication could be a serious issue.
Does it allow non market installs, and can it go to the market?
I am not sure I would be interested if it cannot do these two things. If it could, it may be amusing, but it would have to be silky smooth for me to consider it a prime OS. Since the hardware is significantly slower on the nook, I am betting it is a no go, but that is just conjecture.
~Leko
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Sounds like a big job with processor differences and all. Have you lost your love for cm?
Ian
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The work done actually looks like a port of the apks. The fires UI runs on top of the galaxies UI so CPU and all that doesn't matter. It's just implementing the framework that's the problem.
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Official ICS 4.0 ota for nexus s 4g before late galaxy nexus.

I just wanted to know if Google releases the ics ota for the nexus s 4g should I just stick with it instead of upgrading fully to Mac daddy galaxy nexus. I hope they release it on the sale date of the GN or before. Just want to hear some thoughts.
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I'm getting the galaxy nexus.
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But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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I already have ics on my nexus s4g. I just want the bigger screen and HD superamoled display
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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The official ota isn't going to make ICS any better. The only thing it will do is add the word official to ICS.
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Yeah I get what you guys are saying because I have been flashing ics roms all week. But doesn't Google do a better job at building ics and optimization
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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
from my experience stock roms run the best. i always have some kind of issue that brings me back to stock. i would love an official ics build soon.
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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
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I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
Not only that, but I'm positive that Google has specification and performance information on the phone's hardware that the average ROM developer will simply never have. I agree, custom ROMs are fun to play with, but for everyday use, you'll never beat a stock ROM.
supralover72 said:
I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
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so....
their rollout stopped
and the rom avalanche started
hmmmm
...you are
obviously correct tho...
and i'm sure they havnt looked at any
of the code floating around here
the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news
lol when the official ics gets here we will have nothing to look forward to lol.
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just install it, you'll like it
it's on the Stickies
Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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AllGamer said:
the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news
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By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
bozzykid said:
By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
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LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
treyweez11 said:
Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better
AllGamer said:
LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better
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I'm on kang 15 and steve.garons latest kernel. You and I have very different opinions of stable. Mine is top notch. No hiccups. If u want to wait, by all means, I was...then broke down and the current roms are fantastic.
It takes less than 5mins to root, make a backup, copy that backup yo PC, then unlock boot loader and flash a new rom. If u don't like it, there always that backup you can restore. Too easy to sit around and complain when there are alternatives
I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho
hp420 said:
I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho
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I can't help but agree that ota is most stable But I feel the same way as you. Stability first. Yet I myself am not suffering from any issue. I find my self surround by multiple galaxy nexus owners daily and I am showing them stuff w my oG. Vice versa, just throwing it out there. I have been lucky when I have been flashing phones, many many manyphones hahaha. They all take well to me. I hate a screwed up glitchy phone

New Owner

Afternoon all,
just bought a galaxy tab 10.1 but not entirely impressed. Feels a bit laggy to me. I have an ipad2 too which hardly lags and works flawlessly.
Galaxy feels and looks better but what would i need to do to reduce the lag? whats the best rom available
I notice the lag alot when i swipe.
Install ADW Ex launcher if you want to stay stock, or flash the ICS ROM, and kiss the lag goodbye.
You are truly not seeing the potential with tab with the stock touch wiz.
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All you need to do is read a few threads asking virtually the same question in the past several days.
The ability/willingness to search and read will save you countless problems and repeating of question already answered and here for the finding.
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Benzoman said:
All you need to do is read a few threads asking virtually the same question in the past several days.
The ability/willingness to search and read will save you countless problems and repeating of question already answered and here for the finding.
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ta,
can i install the task14 rom straight away? at the moment my tab hasnt been touched with any software modifications.
|flyte| said:
Install ADW Ex launcher if you want to stay stock, or flash the ICS ROM, and kiss the lag goodbye.
You are truly not seeing the potential with tab with the stock touch wiz.
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+1 for ADW Launcher.
rafter_01 said:
ta,
can i install the task14 rom straight away? at the moment my tab hasnt been touched with any software modifications.
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Sockmonk3y's Sticky guide in the development section tells you exactly what to do. I like how he added a section right into the guide saying, if you want a custom ROM, now is the time. Sure helps know when to do it.
Personally, I like go launcher hd, which is just out of beta and the options to customize and theme it are almost non-existing so far, so I can't say its the best. I like go launcher ex a lot with So many themes and stuff to customize it rocks. But if you decide to go with go launcher hd later its a pain to start over.
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try apex launcher
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try apex launcher
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Only nice if your running an ICS ROM.
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I running apex on my sgs2 with ics so if it can be used when the gtab gets ics that will be sweet.
Not long now...
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We all need some Ice Cream .................
rafter_01 said:
Afternoon all,
just bought a galaxy tab 10.1 but not entirely impressed. Feels a bit laggy to me. I have an ipad2 too which hardly lags and works flawlessly.
Galaxy feels and looks better but what would i need to do to reduce the lag? whats the best rom available
I notice the lag alot when i swipe.
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I would suggest you root your tab immediately and if you are not too concerned with the Camera you should install ICS Kang from AOKP. But other wise best HC choice is GalaxyTask 14.
Galaxytask14 has some lag but the ICS roms are literally flawless and has amazing mods and one of the biggest secrets behind the ICS speed is that they do not have Samsung's bloat-ware.
So if you are one of those people who loves flawless experience at the expense of camera (until Samsung releases a rom with the Camera driver) ICS would be your best friend and believe me I have come from IOS too so I was always after total smoothness that I have found in ICS.
Hope this helps .................

Rooted vs Stock population

Which one are you and why?
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Rooted. If I wanted to be stock I wouldn't be here.
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Rooted. If I wanted to be stock I wouldn't be here.
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+1 what a waste of life would be watching all the action here instead of participating. Like I kid chilling in a candy store but doesn't want any candy!?!? Never hear of that. Lol
Rooted of course!! I'm not afraid to splurge!!
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You guys are extremely informative. I was questioning more as to how happy people are just being stock...compared to rooted and custom.
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Was rooted. AOSP bricked my phone.
No insurance and $200 later, here I am, having to make a warranty claim because HTC screwed up while putting my phone back together.
Rooted. Took the plunge after owning my AT&T M7 for 45 days. Wanted to take advantage of 4.2.2 and I am glad I did.
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I'm stock but unlocked through revone to debrand and force 4.2.2 ota.
How the MoDaCo switch setup progresses will dictate whether or not I root... Resisted for a few months but getting harder
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Rooted since the Sprint HTC Touch days. Running Android Eclair 2.0
The freedom, to do as you please to your own phone. It's great.
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wetrabbit444 said:
Which one are you and why?
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Rooted but I staid on stock for a pretty long time until revone came along. I only used that to solve a bad kernel wakelock I was experiencing and knew was fixed in 4.2.2. I wanted to go to stock 4.2.2 but can't since now my device is s-off usage reporting to HTC is on and can't be turned off and that is causing bad battery drain too.
But I think all in all the One is so good out of the box there isn't really a big reason to root....
Rooted just cause I'm deeply in love with ARHD. LOL
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Stock. I am afraid to waste too much time if I root. You all know it's an addiction when you start flashing roms...
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Rooted & Stock.
It's nice to have a play & see all the lovely tweaks that are acheived with custom roms.
But I think stock has got that good on the One, that as far as day to day tasks & running go there isn't much between stock & custom. But it's sure nice to have a choice & I thanks all the great guys who do the custom roms :good:
sauprankul said:
Was rooted. AOSP bricked my phone.
No insurance and $200 later, here I am, having to make a warranty claim because HTC screwed up while putting my phone back together.
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AOSP didn't brick your phone. I'm pretty sure you didn't know what you where doing.
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There have been a few bricks on aosp and a few bricks with custom roms that I've read about, I believe that the problem is just random faults HTC, can't expect to have so much going on in a phone, mass produce it on a large scale and not have some phones shutting off permanently for unknown reasons. Sorry for ot. I rooted to see what my one is capable of, tried nearly every Rom but now I'm very content with a stock custom rom that allows me to modify and personalise everything that want
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I'm stock and unrooted but planning to root after warranty time/no OTAs I love rooting and flashing (got a HTC Desire before and changed it every week ) but always take the OTAs until HTC announce there are no further updates anymore.
I'm pretty satisfied with the One unrooted though. Maybe only (real) negative aspect so far is decreased battery life compared to rooted devices.
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Which one are you and why?
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Rooted,Modded,Tweaked! the lucky 3!
Rooted on stock GE because I'm developing a couple apps that require root
Idc about different Roms so much, just basic aosp/ge for me.
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Rooted mostly because ARHD did it for me automatically. Greenify is really the only app I use that requires root.
Stock
Spent ages going through ARHD/CM/AOSP roms and all that craic only to end up on a stock rom on the Sensation and had much the better experience on Stock.
Haven't rooted the ONE as i just really don't think it needs it (for me) and so far, i have been proved correct.
Rooted.
Why? So I can clean up the crap I don't want that they schlep into /system, and for tether.
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