Dear Google,
Congratulations ! JB is better then ICS... but:
There are some things that you must know about us Android users, I believe that even after all those years you still do not Know what we android users want. what any user wants...
don't get me wrong android is getting better with every version release but we ask for more then better.
I'm writing it here so you will know what we expect from android. don't try to Understand why we want that and not the other... it will save you a lot of time ... don't be too creative about these things, just do it so it will work . do it the way we want it - that's It.
these small (and easy to make) changes that you didn't add to android yet are preventing android from being the best OS in the eyes of the non-Android users.
1. We want to control (out of the box) at: WIFI,Mobile-Data,GPS,Blutooth,Screen Brightness,Sync,Rotation - from the "Notification Bar" - it is easy to do and any android user wants this on his device . so just do it !
Not adding this causes us to use custom roms sometimes even just for this one change (above). not that this is a bad thing, but this small "mod" that some known developers add, is a must for us.
2. We want to have "Call support" with someone actually answers and talks to us...and better to put it in the Dialer
3. We wanna have a chat and email support with response under 24 hours. some users/developers needs you - so be there - always.
4. Know your market already ! we love android. we buy android . stop running out of your new products all the time. prepare ahead. you can do it Google !
5. You made such a progress with the keyboard. what about a gesture to Change between langs ? it is so easy and it should work out of the box.
6. listen to us, let the users and developers talk to you . ask us questions and let us tell you how we think android should be, and most important :
Answer us. when we Chat,Email Call, Comment we want someone on the other side listening to us and then answers us.
You need our feedback and we need yours.
Right now, Android is a great OS there is no argue about that.
But if you will listen to the android community and provide us the tools we want then:
Android will be the best OS and there will be no argument about that
Just do it . really, just do it
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/
And you think that Google is going to read this?
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teuntje3 said:
And you think that Google is going to read this?
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No i don't
You can try writing it for google, let me know what they said in 25 years from now.
Nice list, just gonna add my 2 cents, hope you don't take offense
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1. We want to control (out of the box) at: WIFI,Mobile-Data,GPS,Blutooth,Screen Brightness,Sync,Rotation - from the "Notification Bar" - it is easy to do and any android user wants this on his device . so just do it !
Not adding this causes us to use custom roms sometimes even just for this one change (above). not that this is a bad thing, but this small "mod" that some known developers add, is a must for us.
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I like this, and it shouldn't be too hard to put in an OTA, especially since the 4.0.4 OTA was only 1 mb or so.
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2. We want to have "Call support" with someone actually answers and talks to us...and better to put it in the Dialer
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Isn't that asking a bit too much for a phone that's almost 2 years old?
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3. We wanna have a chat and email support with response under 24 hours. some users/developers needs you - so be there - always.
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Same as above, but I'm not a dev, and this might be really helpful for devs..
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4. Know your market already ! we love android. we buy android . stop running out of your new products all the time. prepare ahead. you can do it Google !
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Err,, yeah!:good:
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5. You made such a progress with the keyboard. what about a gesture to Change between langs ? it is so easy and it should work out of the box.
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I don't think it's that big of a deal to pull down the notification tray to change the language
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6. listen to us, let the users and developers talk to you . ask us questions and let us tell you how we think android should be, and most important :
Answer us. when we Chat,Email Call, Comment we want someone on the other side listening to us and then answers us.
You need our feedback and we need yours.
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/
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:good::good:
for google, i just want the first point and a full integrated telephone number based message service, like the iPhone.
It could be integrated easily in g+ istant messaging.
Is a T9 dialer really that difficult to implement in a Stock ROM?
Just post this to Android Developers on Google+, they will answer you. You can even video chat with them. It's way better than a phone number, and yes it's official.
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imneo1, thanks for speaking for ALL Android users.....HOWEVER, you will not satisfy everyone's needs....it's impossible. Personally, I don't find much of a need for any of your list. I like a clean pull down notification bar, so the lack of those controls is good with me and I've never found a need to call/chat/email Google about any of my Android devices. You can't have everything your way...Google sells products to millions of people....not just you. Just enjoy your device and be happy that Android has a thriving development community that can provide you with something closer to what you desire.
i just want the toggles and brightness slider in the notifications, battery percentage, and having the option to use both the slide to unlock and pattern/password/code. three features of custom roms that are really the only reason I need to root this thing.
Delete..........
The first point is totally valid and ridiculous that it's not already implemented.
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If only you knew about the notification toggle app....it works perfect now in jelly bean as notifications can permanently stay at the top which wasnt possible in ICS.
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If only you knew about the notification toggle app....it works perfect now in jelly bean as notifications can permanently stay at the top which wasnt possible in ICS.
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you can't toggle GPS with these apps.
and this is an app
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you can't toggle GPS with these apps.
and this is an app
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You sure can just need root access for one click GPS toggle. And so what if it is an app? It works just like anything else. A smartphone is all about customizing your experience with whatever "apps" you like.
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You sure can just need root access for one click GPS toggle. And so what if it is an app? It works just like anything else. A smartphone is all about customizing your experience with whatever "apps" you like.
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This is what i'm talking about.
if the simple user will have these options available without rooting his device and not after searching and trying many apps ...
it should just be there when you turn on your device.
any device running android.
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This is what i'm talking about.
if the simple user will have these options available without rooting his device and not after searching and trying many apps ...
it should just be there when you turn on your device.
any device running android.
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Ah dude this app does not require root access. If you are not rooted you can have a 2 click GPS toggle all the other toggles remain one click. If you really must have one click GPS without root you can keep the built in toggle on the homescreen. This really isnt as big a deal as you are making it out to be, the "basic" users dont even care about these things!!
The lack of t9 dialor is more frustrating as then you have to basically replace the dialor app to get t9 without custom rom.
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Ah dude this app does not require root access. If you are not rooted you can have a 2 click GPS toggle all the other toggles remain one click. If you really must have one click GPS without root you can keep the built in toggle on the homescreen. This really isnt as big a deal as you are making it out to be, the "basic" users dont even care about these things!!
The lack of t9 dialor is more frustrating as then you have to basically replace the dialor app to get t9 without custom rom.
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The whole idea of android is simplicity and functionality .
I think pressing one click is better then clicking twice . i hope you think so too...
you care more for the dialer and that is fine. every user has his things, but many other users are searching for custom roms and mods because the Stock version does not contain their most important feature:"Notification Bat widgets" .
controlling the device is great. controlling it easily is even greater. and that's how i think android should be right out of the box.
simplicity is the name of the game.
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The whole idea of android is simplicity and functionality .
I think pressing one click is better then clicking twice . i hope you think so too...
you care more for the dialer and that is fine. every user has his things, but many other users are searching for custom roms and mods because the Stock version does not contain their most important feature:"Notification Bat widgets" .
controlling the device is great. controlling it easily is even greater. and that's how i think android should be right out of the box.
simplicity is the name of the game.
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So people can search for custom roms but cant search for an app that does it?
For anyone who is looking to put custom rom is obviously rooted so the GPS toggle thing is irrelevant. Seriously anyone who really uses a custom rom for power toggles is just stupid period!!
And I dont know about HTC but samsung's solution is worse. They just give you 10 toggles and you cant change them so if you need a toggle thats not provided you have to use the toggle app to create 2 tiered toggles. The notification toggle app lets you put anything conceivable in the notifications so unless google gives that sort of do whatever you like thing I rather be without it.
How about a more customizable launcher? The stock launcher is so bare of options it's not even funny. That IS a legitimate problem.
You do realize that Google doesn't do those things in the stock ROM, JUST to keep relevant add on apps and community work going ?
Listen up, Google doesn't put your features. Why? It's not for all android users, some users prefer stock. That is why Google has this thing called 'Android Open Source Project' A clean, no frills, no ui tweaks, no T9 and any thing that referred to CM.
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are you confortable with that?
When 21 rogue apps started siphoning off identifying information from Android phones and installing security holes, Google yanked the lot from Android Market, and called the authorities to boot. But what of the 50,000 copies already downloaded by unwitting users? That's what Google's dealing with this week, by utilizing Android's remote kill switch to delete them over the air.
But that's not all, because this time the company isn't just removing offending packages, but also installing new code. The "Android Market Security Tool March 2011" will be remotely added to affected handsets to undo the exploit and keep it from sending your data out, as well as make you wonder just how much remote control Google has over our phones. Yes, we welcome our new Search Engine overlords and all that, so long as they've got our best interests at heart, but there's a certain irony in Google removing a backdoor exploit by using a backdoor exploit of its own -- even one that (in this case) will email you to report what it's done.
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Source:
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/03/update-on-android-market-security.html
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/google-flips-android-kill-switch-destroys-a-batch-of-malicious/
Im sure if you were on the receiving end with a malware infested phone you'd be thanking google for remotely fixing your phone, i guess only when they start abusing that power will people get annoyed and demand change.
I guess that the end justifies the means in this case...
Yeh I'm fine with that. I doubt Google will abuse this feature- look at the negative backlash that Amazon had for remotely deleting from customers Kindles.
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Yeh I'm fine with that. I doubt Google will abuse this feature.
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I'm not quite sure about that!, but well i'm probably too much old school, maybe a bit paranoid or conservative =).
The "For your own good", never sound well to my hears, anyway don't be surprise if Microsoft start doing that, one day, on your personal desktop/laptop.
Starting slow by removing trojan apps and one day, choosing what you have to use or not without your consentment?...not really GNU/GPL.
Google already know, who you are, which face you have (ty the front camera ^^), who are your friend, where you live, who you call, your habits etc... a way to much in one hand.
"Don't be Evil" they said (i'm still laughing on that)
I don't see anything wrong with this, and I think if Google ever decides to use this function for 'evil' it will get so much bad rep, that it's just not worth it.
How do you know they see all those things? Android is open source, and I doubt the Android-versions that is sent to the OEM's has these spy-code inside. Don't think they would agree with that, because of potential lawsuits and problems, e.g. EU-related problems.
I don't mind at all.. They have the power on Chrome too, and they never abuse it. I trust Google, I just woudn't trust Apple.
OP, Google already have your gmail, contacts, coordinates, search history, credit card number, and God only knows what else. This tiny little thingie won't change anything. However, they'd better remotely install Gingerbread on my phone, lol.
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OP, Google already have your gmail, contacts, coordinates, search history, credit card number, and God only knows what else. This tiny little thingie won't change anything. However, they'd better remotely install Gingerbread on my phone, lol.
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I'm afraid by what i see here (but i don't blame anyone), everyone agree...well, maybe a different generation or perhaps my job force me to be more sensitive to that kind of things...who now
Unrealwolf, most of my data are fake: google account, no contact, neither sync, and no way i'll give my credit card number/real name or more.
But hey let's see how it'll go (the result in a couple of years will not be a surprise for me)
Microsoft did install a 'Malicious Software Removel Tool'. And have updates that are installed silently (but that happens very rarely).
And through the normal update process they can install everything they want.
personal info already leak out to everywhere since you born, do you have a mobile, in a school, bank account, visa,diving license, etc... just live with it.
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Is it really the first time that Google installed things remotely? At least they updated apps without interaction on my mobile. And these updates can contain any code they want. So who saves you from Trojans that come inside, say, Maps? Also, some devs showed that apps can install other apps without the user even notices that (I think there was a malicious angry birds app)
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I am thankfull as they state only being sent to infected phones as we have few android phones and only my one got message so yes im glad there doing this
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How do you know they see all those things? Android is open source, and I doubt the Android-versions that is sent to the OEM's has these spy-code inside. Don't think they would agree with that, because of potential lawsuits and problems, e.g. EU-related problems.
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Well going by the trouble that Google got with street view in the EU, im not sure they'd like to risk more fines
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are you confortable with that?
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i love the idea
that will keep our phones clean, and warez free
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Would be better to fix the bugs, though...
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Not too comfortable with this because if google can do it even a hacker can do it.
Also I noticed that after I did a search for CMS in google, the next day I got email from a CMS vendor, so think about it, very weird to the say the least. This has happened many times.
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And Elvis is still alive...
Google has already an app with root and net access on the phone: the Market (or the services behind). Otherwise they could not install or uninstall anything on the phone. And yes, market is able to install without notifying the user. But if they're doing this well and encrypt the communication, no hacker should be able to use this feature to break into your phone.
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And Elvis is still alive...
Google has already an app with root and net access on the phone: the Market (or the services behind). Otherwise they could not install or uninstall anything on the phone. And yes, market is able to install without notifying the user. But if they're doing this well and encrypt the communication, no hacker should be able to use this feature to break into your phone.
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My grandma said: never say never
Well it's not really about hacker problem, it's more about a non gouvernmental entity with that much power...but well some can live with it, i just can't.
Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt
Strange maybe they sent you a test device on accident. I'd just flash the stock software that Google released.
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Mattuhh said:
Okay so I've tried searching all over the place for this but can't find anyone with the same trouble I'm having.
The problem is my nexus 7 has basically everything missing, every google app isn't there, play store, gmail, you tube etc. all missing.
There was no sign up process when i booted up, and it's running ics version 4.0.3. Instead of jelly bean.
The only thing i can do is browse Web pages.
There also a tab in settings called developer options.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if i got a developer version by mistake?
i'm basically missing everything and can't do much at all with it.
Thanks, Matt
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They might have shipped a pre-production model by mistake, or something similar.
If you're used to rooting Android, you can grab the stock images here: http://goo.gl/p0W2s. Otherwise, just bring it to wherever you bought it and get a replacement.
There are factory images for the device available from Google that can return you to a shipping Jelly Bean build. See here:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
It's a fairly simple process, but it does require some basic setup on your desktop computer. You'll need the ability to use fastboot. If you're not up for that the easiest thing to do would be to just exchange the unit.
Edit - identical advice as above. Great minds think alike
Thanks for the replies, I'll have to try and flash the firmware when I get home tomorrow.
I'll let you know if I bork it up
Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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jabsys said:
Wonder if there's any hardware difference between this and the retail versions, could be worth something.
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That would be nice if it was but I'm guessing hardware wise is probably identical, not sure how I'd check to be honest
We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
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Mattuhh said:
We'll I'm having no luck fixing this little problem at the moment.
I've tried using the Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5 but due to having ics I can't seem to get it to work, I am close to giving up trying haha.
here's a few screen captures, anyone's devices have anything different?
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You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?
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You don't need root, you just need to use fastboot. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?
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that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit
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that's the bit I'm having trouble with, Im on windows 7 64bit
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Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.
ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html
Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.
Sell it and buy a new one lol
The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?
This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.
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Really just return it. That's the strangest screw-up I've seen in a while. Unless time is a factor, exchange it. There may be issues with the hardware in a test device, so I would just play it safe (even though fastboot is super easy and fast). And, I'm guessing this is your first Android device, so please don't let this ruin your experience.
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Yeah I am thinking that I'm going to have too, and it's my third Android device, I've got an SGS that's rooted with a custom rom, a Galaxy Note and now this tablet. I've never had problems with messing with software on a device before, but for some reason fastboot just wont play ball on this device
itscro said:
ICS runs in full tablet mode on the nexus 7? And somehow doesn't cut off words in the settings menu like the tablet mode hacks for JB?
That's either interesting or fishy
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I don't know what you're talking about as this is the first tablet I've ever owned but I think fishy or interesting isn't the word I would use, annoying as hell more like lol
aaronpoweruser said:
dump the rom on there and post it im interested in giving it a once over, here is a how to http://androidforums.com/a75-all-th...t-way-rom-dump-rom-dump-method-any-phone.html
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Haha okay I will do my best, but I'm not particularly good at Android tinkering
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Are all Nexus 7s model number "me370t"? If not, then you have the MeMO 370T firmware, which was the base for Nexus 7.
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I haven't got a clue to be honest, I was assuming that was what they all were lol
tech_abbz said:
Sell it and buy a new one lol
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Probably going to have too >.<
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The developer options is nothing special... Thats been there since ICS. It's supposed to be there.
But I've seen a few other reports around here that also have that Asus firmware loaded on them. Not sure if they were able to get the stock loaded onto it, or if they swapped out for another one.
Let me guess, you had a pretty tree set as your background image on first boot up?
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you mean like this? lol
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This kinda sucks for you but I think its really cool at the same time haha. Its cool how it says me370t for the model since the n7 is basically the same device minus a stylus built in
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yeah it's just my luck to be honest lol
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before you take that back let the devs get a dump of that image it could potentially have something interesting in the software of firmware.
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Yeah I will give it a go one day this week, I've had enough of messing with it trying to make it work for now, it's doing my head in haha
I agree, you should (must) dump the ROM and put it up for devs to look at. It's a shame you had your nexus experience marred by thus, but our devs can surely find some interesting things in the ICS build(ironically, this us how the touchpad got android, someone got one that shipped with GB, and the community was lucky enough to get to him before he wiped it).
I'm sick of Google. I'm stripping all apps out.
What are the best non Google to replace them with?
I've got rid of Google market for another but should be able to get anything.
Tnx.
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Get an iPhone.
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dont flash gapps, or just install the ones you want, i always remove google services i dont need.
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Get an iPhone.
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This.
To OP: You own a GOOGLE Nexus 4. What did you expect from it? And good luck getting rid of Google on your phone. Let's see how functional it is with 3rd party apps.
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You're sick of a cohesive integrated service platform that's given to you100 percent free of charge?
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A truely great Google app is the 'play store' app, so you can download replacements for the rest of the Google apps
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Get an iPhone.
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And then jailbreak it and get cydia - just to be different
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And then jailbreak it and get cydia - just to be different
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I think Nova Launcher and a widget can offer more than jailbreaking an iPhone.
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Go with a windows phone. Best way to get away from Google.
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Try amazon app store or just google some alternatives.... LOL
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-app-stores/
Weezle
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Try out the F-Droid app store.
It has a respectable collection of FOSS applications which might be something you'd want.
I agree, I'm tired of these company looking at what I'm doing ever second of my life. This will be an issue in the future.....There's a method to their madness....they are integrating everything to trap us and people are just following along like good sheep. Smh
And you people making fun are straight morons if ya can't get what the op is saying. "Buy an iPhone" haha haha so funny as well as soooooo original.
As asinine as it may sound, there are some of us who still value our privacy.
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I agree, I'm tired of these company looking at what I'm doing ever second of my life. This will be an issue in the future.....There's a method to their madness....they are integrating everything to trap us and people are just following along like good sheep. Smh
And you people making fun are straight morons if ya can't get what the op is saying. "Buy an iPhone" haha haha so funny as well as soooooo original.
As asinine as it may sound, there are some of us who still value our privacy.
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You make a good point here - Google is certainly 'buying' out data and information. They are not in the cell phone making business - rather, they are in the data and analytics business.
Did you think Google was making and selling Nexus devices this cheap just out of the goodness of their own hearts?
A Nexus device is sold at a significant cost reduction that is subsidized by Google for a reason. In today's day and age, if you truly value your privacy, I'd recommend canceling your internet package and surfing the web form your local library. Aside from that, someone is always watching what you're doing - Google or otherwise.
3dupunk said:
I agree, I'm tired of these company looking at what I'm doing ever second of my life. This will be an issue in the future.....There's a method to their madness....they are integrating everything to trap us and people are just following along like good sheep. Smh
And you people making fun are straight morons if ya can't get what the op is saying. "Buy an iPhone" haha haha so funny as well as soooooo original.
As asinine as it may sound, there are some of us who still value our privacy.
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Well then Toss all all credit cards, all shopping cards, Cancel the internet and dont make phone calls. All of these things do the same thing google does. IT has been happening for years and will continue to happen as long as we allow it. Removing some google apps may help a little but it is nothing in the long run.
Get a notepad and a pen. Have fun living in 1995.
People, stop being mod edit
You can replace Gmail with just the stock email app. No trouble there.
There are third party market apps. Forgot what the name is, but it's decent as long as you stick to the safe apps (aka not the obviously fake Chinese knockoffs)
For calendar, you can keep the stock calendar app.
For maps, your options are rather limited. Most good maps are paid apps, so you need to get them from Google Play. Not sure how you can fix this without resorting to piracy
Use color note to replace keep.
snapper.fishes said:
People, stop being mod edit
You can replace Gmail with just the stock email app. No trouble there.
There are third party market apps. Forgot what the name is, but it's decent as long as you stick to the safe apps (aka not the obviously fake Chinese knockoffs)
For calendar, you can keep the stock calendar app.
For maps, your options are rather limited. Most good maps are paid apps, so you need to get them from Google Play. Not sure how you can fix this without resorting to piracy
Use color note to replace keep.
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For appstore, just use Amazon and FDroid.
Actually there are lots of good maps alternative, you just need to spend some money. I use Sygic, it take longer to enter locations and more base on navigation rather than locale discovery, but it's better than Maps when it come to direction, especially outside of USA. CoPilot GPS is also decent.
ColorNotes still use internet, I prefer my offline Memo app from my Samsung Galaxy S, still working on KitKat.
Ichigo said:
I'm so sick of Google watching me as I sleep, or taunting me as I shower.
Leave me alone Google!
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Am I the only one that doesn't care if Google or whatever watches me, and tracks me? I mean, there's no harm to it. They know I like Dubstep? So be it!
The good thing is, they use that data to make your user experience a lot better. Like, my youtube home page is full of Dubstep.
I don't have a problem with them knowing everything. I have nothing to hide, and I couldn't care less, as long as they use the info to make my life easier.
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You make a good point here - Google is certainly 'buying' out data and information. They are not in the cell phone making business - rather, they are in the data and analytics business.
Did you think Google was making and selling Nexus devices this cheap just out of the goodness of their own hearts?
A Nexus device is sold at a significant cost reduction that is subsidized by Google for a reason. In today's day and age, if you truly value your privacy, I'd recommend canceling your internet package and surfing the web form your local library. Aside from that, someone is always watching what you're doing - Google or otherwise.
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I need no schooling on Google and its ways, I've written quite a few papers for school on them so I GET WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING and that's what scary IMO. I find that people who suggest cutting everything off are morons (not saying you) because what they are really doing is mocking w/e. I shouldn't have to worry about prying eyes is my point.
Z4nd4r said:
Get a notepad and a pen. Have fun living in 1995.
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Soooo original, did you come up with that all by your self?
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It may be old new for some(couple of months) but most will still find it very interesting
how Google collects(steals..) your data from your device. Some Dev's have already added some attention to this on there rom's.(not all)
But then again, most inflictions come from apps you install and the privileges they come with.
It's all a bigger picture. 1 app, one question. 20 apps, 20 questions.
For instance; the facebook app uses an great deal of privileges you probably are not aware of and don't want to give for what you use it for. facebook may be respectable, but that depends on your point of view.
Additionally, most of your are probably not technically inclined, have no or little experience with android and are not aware what can be done by indexing your kind. In that case, just take it into consideration.
So, read it and weep <here>
Please, if you have something interesting to add concerning privacy on custom rom's, share it here.
If you don't care about your or anyone else's privacy or the fact you may be manipulated in the long run, then please don't rant or insult. Conspiracies do exist!
We just need an clean rom.
ps;
Motorola owned now by Lenovo, so stuff may change.
And everybody wants to work for Google, don't they?
This is not a rant, just an observation.
I's amazing how aggressively Google is going about not letting users have the options they need to protect there privacy.
If you are an first time user(like all those now in India), then they force you to upload all your contacts and information to there servers. No option to opt-out what so ever.
Try to set up your google account, and it immediately starts sending all info to there servers. No opt-out.
Just try to just sync your mail automatically, wont work in KK. Is all data or nothing.
Copy your contact to your own SIM, they won't let you. What's that all about.
Well, that's why the moto g, which obviously is an very good devices, is so 'cheap'. They steal private data and make you think you made the choice. Most didn't make the choice, some think it doesn't matter others 'have nothing to hide'. All just don't see it.
You probably just bought an new phone, hardware with android(Which still is considered opensource.) on.
That's an honest action.
In reality they made it so difficult not to use there services, that there really isn't any other option for most users. And surely not now they changed and closed the system even more with the KK lure on budget devices.
Most new user need to be made aware of privacy. Most notably younger people. By the time they find out about it, there life is already splattered all over the net. Don't use it, they say. Wel try to keep an user away from facebook for a month.
That is the reality these company's play with. And no, it doesn't have to be this way. We just need to fix the apps to add more privacy options.
It's not evolution. It's derailment, just an other road.
ebsbow said:
This is not a rant, just an observation.
I's amazing how aggressively Google is going about not letting users have the options they need to protect there privacy.
If you are an first time user(like all those now in India), then they force you to upload all your contacts and information to there servers. No option to opt-out what so ever.
Try to set up your google account, and it immediately starts sending all info to there servers. No opt-out.
Just try to just sync your mail automatically, wont work in KK. Is all data or nothing.
Copy your contact to your own SIM, they won't let you. What's that all about.
Well, that's why the moto g, which obviously is an very good devices, is so 'cheap'. They steal private data and make you think you made the choice. Most didn't make the choice, some think it doesn't matter others 'have nothing to hide'. All just don't see it.
You probably just bought an new phone, hardware with android(Which still is considered opensource.) on.
That's an honest action.
In reality they made it so difficult not to use there services, that there really isn't any other option for most users. And surely not now they changed and closed the system even more with the KK lure on budget devices.
Most new user need to be made aware of privacy. Most notably younger people. By the time they find out about it, there life is already splattered all over the net. Don't use it, they say. Wel try to keep an user away from facebook for a month.
That is the reality these company's play with. And no, it doesn't have to be this way. We just need to fix the apps to add more privacy options.
It's not evolution. It's derailment, just an other road.
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Well I could just sync emails with out contacts.. I never used a sim card before 2013 so I had no contacts on it. You can use the device without Google services just unchecked allow unknown sources download different appstores... Get apks from other places. And I am 100% sure your data isn't stolen.. We just choose to ignore the TOS and move on because who has time to read when there is facebooking to do? I bought the moto g over a lumina 521 because I am indoctrinated in Google's bubble. Now that screen is busted think I am going to go to a blackberry or windows phone or iPhone anything else? Nope going to buy a moto x unlock the boot loader, add a custom recovery and root that bad lad and life moves on..if security becomes a real issue I will be sure to complied android from source and strip out the Google stuff..but I am not worried about it.
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Could you elaborate on the 2013 sim line, buddy?
Durteedee said:
... I never used a sim card before 2013 so I had no contacts on it. ...
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I was on CDMA networks before they moved our network to gsm so I never used sim cards so mine never had contacts on it ..ever
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ebsbow said:
Well, that's why the moto g, which obviously is an very good devices, is so 'cheap'.
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EVERY android phone that's bundled with Google apps does this, not just the moto g. Even the expensive galaxy s 5 and the htc one.
Nobody is forcing you to sign into your Google account or even make one. You can even install cyanogemod without these tracking apps and alternative app stores like f-droid.
I'd argue that android is actually one of the best mobile OS for privacy, simply because it is open source and you can choose what you want to install. Try doing that on a windows phone or iPhone. Both those operating systems are closed source and could be doing much worse than you claim the moto g is.
You also claim google gives you no option to choose what to upload to their servers, you're wrong about that too. You can actually choose what to sync to your google account. Just go to settings->google. Don't want your contacts synced? No problem, just uncheck it.
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Maybe you don't understand the psychology about this tactic. But that's ok.
Anyway, the XT1033 I got doesn't offer an check boxes in the account section. XT1033 is the Asia version.
Those check boxes are, normally, standard available on Android. Also in KK, as is the possibility
to edit and store contacts to sim. Which is also not available on the moto g. Instead, they go strait to the
google servers if you make an account, which you need for the play store.
Yes, you can install and custom rom. If you have the knowhow or want to learn. But chances are you will
configure your phone right out of the box first. And you may forget that custom rom's void warranty.
Which is off course a good thing for the manufacturer. So, most don't do it, or don't want it.
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ebsbow said:
Maybe you don't understand the psychology about this tactic. But that's ok.
Anyway, the XT1033 I got doesn't offer an check boxes in the account section. XT1033 is the Asia version.
Those check boxes are, normally, standard available on Android. Also in KK, as is the possibility
to edit and store contacts to sim. Which is also not available on the moto g. Instead, they go strait to the
google servers if you make an account, which you need for the play store.
Yes, you can install and custom rom. If you have the knowhow or want to learn. But chances are you will
configure your phone right out of the box first. And you may forget that custom rom's void warranty.
Which is off course a good thing for the manufacturer. So, most don't do it, or don't want it.
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Are you sure the check boxes aren't there? You have to touch your email after you go to Google account, so its actually settings->google>your email address.
Why does editing and storing contacts on the sim even matter? The year is 2014, you have a smartphone. You don't need a sim card to store contacts. you can store them on your phones storage without syncing them to Google servers. But if you insist on using the sim card, there are 3rd party apps you can download just for that purpose. That's the beauty of android.
Honestly it sounds to me like you're just uninformed from reading one old article.
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Btw; been using android from the beginning and also use other phones and devices.
so yeah, they need to be on 'my' sim card.
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It's just NSA bull**** that's on every mobile phone in the US. Nothing new here.
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It takes some work to maintain privacy online these days, be it on Android or anywhere else. Caring about that and not knowing, for example, how to install a custom Android ROM, simply doesn't go together. However, there's differences in what data is collected and how it's used. I don't mind giving data to Google because, well, it's a trade-off. I like their services.
Still, not offering to opt-out of it is simple bullying and a -1 for Google in this case.
This is the reason I am looking forward to install Cyanogenmod!
Im asian, using the XT1033 n the tick box is here to choose what u want to share..
Removing the motorola Blur service with some apk manager does the job for me, no trace to be found on my device. This doesn't mean that Google doesn't send some data anyways btw!
No moto blur service on mine, but lot's of other stuff is poking around. All pieces of the puzzel, I guess.
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For those who don't know, the MAC address/number is hard-coded in the hardware of your phone.
There is no legitimate reason why this number should change after an software update has been applied.
Can anyone confirm that using this(or other) rom has not changed the MAC on his/her phone?
Other fine addition to data stealing.
Look for the folder: .faceRectImg (yes, hidden folder)
edit: some may say you or anyone made these with an contact manager. I can tell you
without any doubt that is not the case. These are made with face recognition software from
pictures on your drive or from other locations. You may or may not have this folder, but at
one point you will have.
Please don't whine about the nsa doing there work. Android phone are global, and there are other laws and habits in other country's. And no body really likes an spy.(except may be 007..)
Does anyone have the stock LG calendar app working on an LS997 variant? I can install the app fine, but it crashes upon start. It would be really nice to have since I like how it shows the actual date on the icon.
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It's the last of the stock apps I'd *really* like to get working on the V20. Messages, email (not exchange tho, boo), gallery and music all work for me, so it would be nice...
Thanks!
bgibson72 said:
Does anyone have the stock LG calendar app working on an LS997 variant? I can install the app fine, but it crashes upon start. It would be really nice to have since I like how it shows the actual date on the icon.
It's the last of the stock apps I'd *really* like to get working on the V20. Messages, email (not exchange tho, boo), gallery and music all work for me, so it would be nice...
Thanks!
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Do you have the messages apk?
dsamp23 said:
Do you have the messages apk?
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It's part of the LS997 ROM released by Team DevDigitel. I should be able to get an APK for you but it's probably just as easy to extract it from the ROM. With LG stock apk's YMMV.
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I know this apk works since I just pulled it from a ROM that has it included and it was working with the ROM. There must be some sort of dependency that is keeping it from running. I'm going to see if I can do some reverse engineering on it to find out what that dependency is. If anyone can save me a step, I'd be happy to hear what that dependency is!
Did you ever figure this out because I would like to do this myself. Also, you mentioned you had the stock messaging app working. Would you mind sharing the apk and any special instructions not covered by this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/stock-music-app-to-att-version-t3552963
Also, please share the calendar apk as well even though it hasn't worked for you. Maybe I'll have better luck.
dynamo52 said:
Did you ever figure this out because I would like to do this myself. Also, you mentioned you had the stock messaging app working. Would you mind sharing the apk and any special instructions not covered by this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/stock-music-app-to-att-version-t3552963
Also, please share the calendar apk as well even though it hasn't worked for you. Maybe I'll have better luck.
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Just saw this--I posted links to all of the working LG apps for LS997 unrooted phones somewhere. Once I find them, I'll link to it here.
UPDATE: Messaging App https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8dcSlY-Ip1-NmZfVmRrOXczUWc
Calendar App https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8dcSlY-Ip1-RUViZzJsNkJUMVU
Let me know if you get Calendar working!
UPDATE 2: I couldn't get the Messaging app to work this time. Not sure if it has anything to do with updating from ZV5 to ZV6...or maybe just that I'm no longer rooted?
bgibson72 said:
Let me know if you get Calendar working!
UPDATE 2: I couldn't get the Messaging app to work this time. Not sure if it has anything to do with updating from ZV5 to ZV6...or maybe just that I'm no longer rooted?
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I was able to get them installed but unfortunately both crash on launch. Thanks anyway. Maybe somebody else will get it to work and share their process here.
<RANT>I just don't understand why a service provider would choose to remove these apps in the first place. If not for the Google Voice integration I would have ditched Sprint years ago.</RANT>
Installed Calendar and it's working fine for me.
rubiicon59 said:
Installed Calendar and it's working fine for me.
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You're not on Sprint (lucky you). For some dumb reason, hardly any of the STOCK LG APPS work on an LG PHONE. Makes perfect sense. I understand the desire for the carrier to make the phone "theirs" or to try to go with a more "vanilla Google" experience, but if I want to install LG apps on an LG phone, that should not be more difficult than rocket surgery.
My turn to rant >>> Unfortunately Sprint has the best coverage where I live and their prices are much better than Verizon's. Next time I'll just get an unlocked device. I would love to just root the phone in order to run stock apps, as I had before, but everytime I do there seems to be a malfunction and my phone ends up bricked (not from installing incompatible ROMs or kernels, I think I just flash the phone too many times?). Not to mention Sprint (and AT&T) has conveniently decided to not make the KDZ/TOT files available to the public. Let's not even mention the ridiculous static boot screen...
dynamo52 said:
I was able to get them installed but unfortunately both crash on launch. Thanks anyway. Maybe somebody else will get it to work and share their process here.
<RANT>I just don't understand why a service provider would choose to remove these apps in the first place. If not for the Google Voice integration I would have ditched Sprint years ago.</RANT>
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Someone in another thread suggested it might be a missing framework. I don't know enough about mobile development to be able to say that he was on the right path or not, but it seems logical to me. It's probably something buried deep in the system that would only be accessible by having root permissions.
I do wonder about the ability to achieve this through a terminal app and changing some permissions as the SystemUI Tuner app does in order to change status bar icons without root. Wish someone would work on that, or I wish I had enough knowledge to do so myself... oh well.
bgibson72 said:
Someone in another thread suggested it might be a missing framework. I don't know enough about mobile development to be able to say that he was on the right path or not, but it seems logical to me. It's probably something buried deep in the system that would only be accessible by having root permissions.
I do wonder about the ability to achieve this through a terminal app and changing some permissions as the SystemUI Tuner app does in order to change status bar icons without root. Wish someone would work on that, or I wish I had enough knowledge to do so myself... oh well.
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Yeah neither of the apps will work on non rooted phones... You can't add the other files to system without it.... And to be honest the Android messaging app sprint includes is better then the stock lg one...
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Chaz187 said:
Yeah neither of the apps will work on non rooted phones... You can't add the other files to system without it.... And to be honest the Android messaging app sprint includes is better then the stock lg one...
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Serious question: how does the method used by SystemUI Tuner work without root, and why wouldn't this method work for non-rooted phones and stock apps? If you're not familiar, the app requires non-rooted phones to use ADB to send a shell command 'pm grant com.xxx.xxx android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS' and 'android.permission.DUMP'. Perhaps there is code in the app itself to trick the system into thinking it has root using these commands?? You would know better than me...
I'm waving the white flag on this, however I am curious to know how that works. I might consider another carrier in the future however. Preferrably one that doesn't cripple stock apps.
Chaz187 said:
Yeah neither of the apps will work on non rooted phones...
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There was only one page when you posted... try reading the thread from the start.
See post #8.
rubiicon59 said:
There's only two pages, try reading the thread from the start.
See post #8.
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I did and they will not work on non rooted phones..... So no need to be a smart ass!
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Lol
Mines not rooted.
So carry on being a dumbass...
rubiicon59 said:
Lol
Mines not rooted.
So carry on being a dumbass...
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And if you actually read the op.... It said the sprint version..... So now what...? WIll NOT WORK!
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I replied to this comment...
Chaz187 said:
Yeah neither of the apps will work on non rooted phones...
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So, my reply was relevant and pertinent. And you are wrong.
Have a nice day now