[Q] Does it Need to be root ? - Acer Iconia A500

hi everyone, i'm a501 user and decided to use Alexandra V ROM..
My question, do I need to root my a501 before install the ICS bootloader ? Now i'm using official HC 3.2.1 and never experienced in rooting.
If rooting is necessary, how to root official A501 HC 3.2.1? Maybe gingerbreak 1.2 ?
thanks before

gigacats said:
hi everyone, i'm a501 user and decided to use Alexandra V ROM..
My question, do I need to root my a501 before install the ICS bootloader ? Now i'm using official HC 3.2.1 and never experienced in rooting.
If rooting is necessary, how to root official A501 HC 3.2.1? Maybe gingerbreak 1.2 ?
thanks before
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Well, rooting is generally the first step. HOWEVER.... you will need to;
a. Flash the ICS patched bootloader
b. Flash a CWM or Public Recovery
c. Have the Alex V.zip already on your external SD Card, that way, it is ready to install after doing the above 2 steps.
Now the current Alex V you can run a simple root after install, so rooting now, is rather not necessary. Also, you might want to wait 3 or 4 days. We just got a new ICS update today, that if works well, I will change out the Rom version. Probably Sunday if all goes well. Will save you the time of re-installing the rom again.
The only reason you would want to root right now, would be to install a CWM and make a backup of your current system., In case you ever wanted to go back to HC. But note; HC roms do not run on ICS bootloaders and vice-versa. Also, The CWM's will be different for ICS. So it's sort of like once you commit to ICS, you go all the way, and never back to HC (you can, but who would want to).
Oh yeah, don't use Gingerbreak. It will probably bork things up. As of 3.2, rooting became a little difficult.
So in the meantime, while you wait, you can read this thread as it contains instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425
Note that the above procedures (manual or automatic) usually work about 90% of the time. Seeing you are currently on stock 3.2.1, I don't foresee an issue. Any questions, post them in the instructions thread.
MD

Ok MD, thanks for your explanation, so i don't need root my current ROM to install ICS boot loaded right?
Thanks a lot
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gigacats said:
Ok MD, thanks for your explanation, so i don't need root my current ROM to install ICS boot loaded right?
Thanks a lot
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You shouldn't. The bootloader program uses NVFlash, which is initialized before the OS starts. The only requirement I believe is USB Debugging must be turned on in the system settings, but that's really more of a precaution than anything. I've not used these programs, as I did it a long time ago the old fashioned way. AKA semi-bricked my tab..... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Heck, I didn't even "have" an OS, and got the bootloader and CWM installed
Read the stuff. Understand what you're getting into.
And.... Get your current UID number and write it down somewhere safe. This is really your only protection if something goes bad. Usually it doesn't but you will also need it during the process.
When you get ready to do this (after I hopefully have a newer version in a few days), you can post in my thread for help. Got some good guys there with 501's that can lend some advice.
MD

Sory MD, I haven't got permission to post in your thread due to lack posting.. I have installed v8-thor. 1.7. 3_recovery.A500apx, now I still able to boot into my HC ROM. but now I couldn't find any cwm mod recovery.A500apx to install in my tab. How then?
Thank you very much
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Root iconia 3.2

Is anyone come up with a nap yet that will root the Iconia with 3.2?
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Goober22 said:
Is anyone come up with a nap yet that will root the Iconia with 3.2?
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I don't think anyone has tried rooting 3.2 with a nap yet, maybe that will work. Put it to sleep, then root it lol.
If anyone had found a one click root for 3.2, you can bet you'd see multiple threads on it knowing the monkeys around here
An app*
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No they have not to answer your question
I'm assuming you don't want to do the downgrade process to root your tab then?
Acer a500 (rom) Civato Mix
HTC Inspire (rom) Rcmix 3.3 sense 3.5
No nap root method.but there is a downgrade/install rooted 3.2.
Naps are fun when taken with the correct person root Not required.
Giggles
I did the downgrade and root method and didn't even lose data. It's seriously easy. Follow the instructions.
Link to downgrade
I can't seem to find the instructions. Thought they were stickied to main page but don't see them. I have 3.2 and would like to either downgrade and load rooted 3.2 or even just downgrade so I can root 3.1 and use that again.
chasmanian said:
I did the downgrade and root method and didn't even lose data. It's seriously easy. Follow the instructions.
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Understatement of the century there. Takes about twenty minutes, including the time it takes to search the dev forum using the phrase "downgrade 3.2". You don't even need a PC, you can do it all using the tablet.
@ingrouille, it's in the development forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Then I would recomend [ROM] Rooted Stock HC 3.2 US Rom for CWM only (5-oct-11)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
It's a stock rom that is already rooted, flashed through CWM.
Chad
Many thanks.
ugh, can't seem to revert. tried method two a multitude of times but I get the android logo with the yield/exclamation point each time.
wonder whats going on. checked formatting, the zip itself, the card is recognized by the tab, hmmm. any ideas? I've seen a few other people are having this issue also.
dinglayne said:
@ingrouille, it's in the development forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
Then I would recomend [ROM] Rooted Stock HC 3.2 US Rom for CWM only (5-oct-11)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
It's a stock rom that is already rooted, flashed through CWM.
Chad
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It looks like that's an A500 ROM, correct? I'd like to keep the "4G" portion enabled, so I don't think that will work for me. Drat.
Have you ever tried to search the forums?
This way works fine for the stock 3.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
I used it to root my friend's A500 last week.
Cheers
VicDeo said:
Have you ever tried to search the forums?
This way works fine for the stock 3.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
I used it to root my friend's A500 last week.
Cheers
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So... you basically cooked up your own rom and added SU to it.
To anyone else who needs to root just download kekinash's stock rom with superuser, it's the exact same thing as this without the steps just flash and you have rooted 3.2.
And you are in a small group of people that have SD card issues, I've owned 2 Iconia a500's and neither had a single SD issue.
It wasn't me
It was timmyDean who added root for stock 3.2. he described how to get root in adb shell only (the very first post in the thread I posted)
The way to add superuser for applications was described by chrishohl on the 3rd page of the same thread
Following his how-to one can get the rooted stock 3.2 without downgrade.
And you are in a small group of people that have SD card issues, I've owned 2 Iconia a500's and neither had a single SD issue.
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Nope, I haven't any issues with SD card, the only goal for now is 3G USB modem kernel modules. I haven't find any modules for the stock 3.2 kernel version.
Those for 3.1 failed to load with insmod since they had been built for another kernel version.
erica_renee said:
No nap root method.but there is a downgrade/install rooted 3.2.
Naps are fun when taken with the correct person root Not required.
Giggles
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**CHUCKLE**

[Q] Can 3.2 Stock Out of the box be rooted and how?

I just rec'd the new A500 8Gb version that already has 3.2 installed. So this is not the normal 3.2 OTA, which maybe the same. Don't know how to confirm.
I have read so many posts that appears to be rooting instructions for 3.0 and not for 3.2. I see one Thread that had instructions on how to root a OTA 3.2 but the instructions even says will take 1.5hrs. I have rooted tablets/phones before and i know it doesn't take that long and don't want to lose data.
I don't want to install a custom rom just so i can be rooted. I just want to root this tablet and i don't want to downgrade the bootloader.
Can anyone please point me to the correct thread or simply let me know if rooting is currently out of the question for this scenerio.
im on the same page, just picked up the 3.2 from costco.. A little common sense points me and you in the direction of downgrading to the 3.0.1.. Then bumping up to the rooted 3.2.. its not a one click solution but it makes complete sense..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
im doing it as i write this let you know my success..
Yeah I have read that an option is to downgrade to 3.0, root then go to 3.2. Guess i'm waiting on a short version that will root stock 3.2 and it doesn't make sense to me to go back only to go up versions of rom for this alternative route.
lol its data, not like your trading in your new car for a 87 nova.. Downgrade is for exploit access only as soon as root --> update recovery ---> flash rom you will be right back to 3.2..
:-/
anyways method 2 works.. did it in 15 minutes cause i got distracted..
good luck waiting for ur 1 click
cool, so i guess this is the best solution for now....i'll do the same.
IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
Its pretty hard to hard brick but please , don't take that as a challenge...
The vanishing keyboard ...
ultramag69 said:
IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
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Agree; first hand experience ...
ultramag69 said:
IMPORTANT : Make sure you download the acer recovery installer while still on 3.2 as you WILL have problems accessing android market once you install the UNSTABLE 3.01...
Its pretty hard to hard brick but please , don't take that as a challenge...
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lol wish I had known that when I rooted mine, I was freaking out scouring the interwebs for an apk of it when I downgraded cuz I couldn't use the damn keyboard
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I found out the hard way too, got the OTA update of 3.2 installed, then got the acer recovery installer downloaded. Was a colossal waste of time...
Thought I'd let others know, easier than having to stuff around yourself and hoping you can recover...
Thx for the heads up guys, i did install the acer recovery. Now i know why you need it since that 3.0 downgrade is very unstable. I did manage to root, install CWM and flashed a 3.2 rom.
I used this... straight root no downgrade required.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
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[Q] [LEAK/DEV][ICS 4.0.3] Acer_AV041_A500_0.009.00_WW_GEN1 Q&A

I don't have enough posts to add to the thread in the Dev forums, so I will ask here.
My Iconia A500 is not rooted, I don't feel that I needed it to be rooted most of the time. Now that is out of the way, I have questions.
Is there a version of this Dev leak that I can flash if I don't care about rooting or recovery? I believe the version he leaked is a CWM or RA recovery flashable only, so I would need the original untouched release.
If I do flash this, I should be able to flash future versions correct, or possibly the final version of the ICS release?
Essentially I would like to use this release on my tablet without caring about root or recovery, but I also don't want to screw myself for future releases.
Is it possible to reflash back to an old Honeycomb release?
You might not be able to post in the dev thread, but you can read it. All your answers are in there, most are even in the OP!
Jilaman said:
I don't have enough posts to add to the thread in the Dev forums, so I will ask here.
My Iconia A500 is not rooted, I don't feel that I needed it to be rooted most of the time. Now that is out of the way, I have questions.
Is there a version of this Dev leak that I can flash if I don't care about rooting or recovery? I believe the version he leaked is a CWM or RA recovery flashable only, so I would need the original untouched release.
If I do flash this, I should be able to flash future versions correct, or possibly the final version of the ICS release?
Essentially I would like to use this release on my tablet without caring about root or recovery, but I also don't want to screw myself for future releases.
Is it possible to reflash back to an old Honeycomb release?
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If you don't care about root or recovery, than it is best you stay stock, and wait for OTA updates. This will keep you relatively safe.
Take a deep Breath this could turn out to have issues and not be complete.. There is only reports that it is flash-able.This does not guarantee that is will Run properly.As its a Acer development rom leaked to the public..
I will try it after there are 2 or 3 more days of comments.If it seems to be working well.I must have Root. Hope the post above mine has helped.
JUST Think if it does not pan out you can be one that said IM SMART I WAITED..
GOOD LUCK . DONT CROSS THE STREET WITHOUT LOOKING BOTH WAYS.
This rom is very easy to be flashed on the a500, dear erica_renee. I've done it tonight and I did come, like you, from the latest version of the unrooted Acer stock ROM.
In order to do this, you must:
- flash from your PC, a rooted rom version 3.2 on your tablet with the little app "DotNetDetecter". You can download it from somewhere on XDA Iconia A500's developers threads but I don't remember in which thread I found it.
- install the app "Acer Recovery" (free on the market)
- download the zip of RA recovery (You'll find the link in the Vache's thread) and install this recovery from your CMW recovery you've installed with the rooted rom 3.2 in the first step
- download and install from the RA recovery the ROM ICS that you can download on the website of Vache... Choose the "RA recovery" version of this ROM.
Very pleasant version, this ICS ROM ... but the low volume defect when I record sounds is still present...
Again and again I'm more and more convinced that this problem comes from the LOW QUALITY of these microphones !!!
castafiore said:
This rom is very easy to be flashed on the a500, dear erica_renee. I've done it tonight and I did come, like you, from the latest version of the unrooted Acer ROM.
In order to do this, you must:
- flash a rooted rom 3.2 on your tablet with the little app "DotNetDetecter". You can download it from somewhere on XDA Iconia A500's developers threads but I don't remember in which thread I found it.
- install the app "Acer Recovery" (free on the market)
- download the zip of RA recovery (You'll find the link in the Vache's thread) and install this recovery from your CMW recovery you've installed with the rooted rom in the previous step
- download and install from the RA recovery the ROM ICS that you can download on the website of Vache... Choose the "RA recovery" version of this ROM.
Very pleasant version, this ICS ROM ... but the low volume defect when I record sounds is still present...
Again and again I'm more and more convinced that this problem comes from the LOW QUALITY of these microphones !!!
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are you saying that you flashed the cwm version of this on a a500.or do you have a501 Or are you using the non rooted full rom version.. And yes the mic issue i agree with . Considering going to Black box and buying upgraded mics and install . but i dont use it that much.
I have an Iconia A500, renee and I flashed the leaked Acer ICS stock ROM that Vache proposes on his website.
The link is on the first page of his thread.
castafiore said:
I have an Iconia A500, renee and I flashed the leaked Acer ICS stock ROM that Vache proposes on his website.
The link is on the first page of his thread.
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ok .
now can you go to the root for a200 thread and follow that procedure and see if it will ROOT For you..
this could be the solution if so..
Thanks in advance...
I'd try it myself, but I don't want to lose my current bootloader and the ability to flash custom roms, so I'll just wait.
I'm just waiting for someone to confirm they can return to 3.2.1 via apx mode, once confirmed ill flash it
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M..N said:
I'm just waiting for someone to confirm they can return to 3.2.1 via apx mode, once confirmed ill flash it
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I to. have the instructions downloaded and waiting.. Better things come to those Who Wait..
Impatience is often followed by hardship Turmoil.
Wow that was good even for blonde chic..
Why do you fear not being able to go back to honeycomb ?
ICS a real improvement, for me. Google chrome is a great browser too.
These are my first impressions anyway. Very good, very pleasant.
But, if you're not in a hurry, you can wait one more month, of course.
castafiore said:
Why do you fear not being able to go back to honeycomb ?
ICS a real improvement, for me. Google chrome is a great browser too.
These are my first impressions anyway. Very good, very pleasant.
But, if you're not in a hurry, you can wait one more month, of course.
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Just in case anything happens it would be good to know if we can revert. When you flashed did you lose all your data, and anything not working in the rom?
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M..N said:
Just in case anything happens it would be good to know if we can revert. When you flashed did you lose all your data, and anything not working in the rom?
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I MUST have root access. that is all..
may i ask if you have checked the fallow..
GPS.
Can you tether to a android ad-hoc network
does Ti Backup work.
Does email exchange work.
I could go on but i will not .. THANKS IN Advance
No root on ICS (yet?).
I guess that you will loose it as well when you will install this Rom as an update by OTA...
I don't really need a root on my tablet, personaly, except when I want to test a custom Rom.
There is maybe a solution to keep the root anyway. Check in the thread of Vache.
Apart from that, everything works better than ever for me (gps, tether through my htc Desire, caméra, etc ... except the recurrent prob with the microphones ).
I don't use Titanium backup (that needs root, isn't it?) but MyBackup pro.
Email exchange? Do you mean the app working with Outlook on Windows? I don't use it neither. I use gmail and I import my other accounts on gmail. Sorry. But my email accounts (pop) work perfectly well.
Everything works very well actually with this Rom. I didn't notice any problem till now. No way to go back to HC...
I wonder if Thor has this yet. He is probably the best a500 ICS dev right now.
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M..N said:
I'm just waiting for someone to confirm they can return to 3.2.1 via apx mode, once confirmed ill flash it
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Just to let you know. I have flashed with the full 4.0.3 (not CWM/rooted one), and then used the first method here to restore back to 3.0.1, then installed CWM to install a ROM without any problems. I have since updated to 4.0.3 full again as it's by far the best ROM for me.
Ny the way, I noticed this morning that the ability to disable bloatware has been added to the stock ics rom via app section of settings, so one less reason for me to need root.
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Antarell said:
Just to let you know. I have flashed with the full 4.0.3 (not CWM/rooted one), and then used the first method here to restore back to 3.0.1, then installed CWM to install a ROM without any problems. I have since updated to 4.0.3 full again as it's by far the best ROM for me.
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Thanks Antarell,
This is good to know for people who would be nostalgic of Honeycomb
By the way, there is a simplier way to go back to HC with a root. That's the one I've used several times with no bad issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
This leak flies. Its awesome. Actually makes me not care about losing recovery. I really couldn't ask for more from this. At least we know there's a way back if we really need it.

[SOLVED] Acer Iconia 500 Bricked

Link to guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24531880#post24531880
TravisAntonio said:
I just got from a friend an Acer Iconia a500 he says that is bricked.
I tried this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572622
But I can't continue because I don't have ADB access, what should I do?.
Thanks for all and God bless you.
EDIT:
I got everything to using the secret APX mode, but now is still everything the same the Android System is still there and not charging and not touchscreen...
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What version did you flash? If it was 3.0.1 it's ridiculously buggy. Ideally you want 3.1 so you can root it with sc2k's GingerBreak modification then flash CWM then a custom 3.2.1 ROM, Thor's ICS ROM or one of the Leak-based ICS ROMs
blackthund3r said:
What version did you flash? If it was 3.0.1 it's ridiculously buggy. Ideally you want 3.1 so you can root it with sc2k's GingerBreak modification then flash CWM then a custom 3.2.1 ROM, Thor's ICS ROM or one of the Leak-based ICS ROMs
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I unlocked the bootloader and Installed ICS but the problem is active yet but in ICS is even worse, it shutdown by itselfs atleast in HC it keeps saying Android System with the Shutdown in the center of the screen.
TravisAntonio said:
I unlocked the bootloader and Installed ICS but the problem is active yet but in ICS is even worse, it shutdown by itselfs atleast in HC it keeps saying Android System with the Shutdown in the center of the screen.
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Not sure why you installed ICS. That just compounds the issue.
You can take a look at this thread, and try NVFlash. This guy had a similar issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579490
Considering you were able to install ICS, I would like to ask if you did this from CWM recovery? My guess, is there is a ton of corrupted data in the partitions. This would explain things a little. If you can get it back to HC, then you can run a dmesgview and get your UID number. Then you should be able to run TimmyDeans tool in the General thread (I believe).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
My guess, is that your EC Pwr control got messed up along with corrupted data. I would advise staying away from the ICS Beta leaks, and just get a good HC up and running.
Moscow Desire said:
Not sure why you installed ICS. That just compounds the issue.
You can take a look at this thread, and try NVFlash. This guy had a similar issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579490
Considering you were able to install ICS, I would like to ask if you did this from CWM recovery? My guess, is there is a ton of corrupted data in the partitions. This would explain things a little.
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Sure, I made it thru the Recovery. Can you help me with something really quick?, I think I can fix everything if you download some file that is in a Russian forum but I can't have access to register due to my bad russian lol.
I solved everything installing ICS then installing EC_ROM for ICS. =)
If someone need the files I have it.
Thanks for all the help and God bless you all!.0
TravisAntonio said:
I solved everything installing ICS then installing EC_ROM for ICS. =)
If someone need the files I have it.
Thanks for all the help and God bless you all!.0
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As always, glad you got it going!
Now, you may want to edit your post, or create a new reply, and attach that EC Rom flash for ICS, just in case others may need it.
Moscow Desire said:
As always, glad you got it going!
Now, you may want to edit your post, or create a new reply, and attach that EC Rom flash for ICS, just in case others may need it.
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I just made an entire guide.

[Q]-Coming up to ICS or JB from HC3.1

Hi folks. new Iconia 500 owner here. Mine is rooted and is currently on HC3.1 I'm going to guess it's the HC bootloader. Is there a way to check? If it is the HC bootloader, is this thread the best one to follow coming up to an ICS bootloader for use with ICS and JB ROMS? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 I saw the dual bootloader thread from Skril but wondered if that might be a little too much for somebody just wanting to run a normal ICS or JB setup.
I guess your good to go on jellybean if you update your bootloader , remember put the rom and gapps on PRIOR to updating the bootloader , you can check your bootloader by using acer recovery installer on the home screen it'll say bootloader version or something , then after that it'll either say 3.11 or 3.12 , those are honeycomb bootloaders , the ics bootloaders say 3.14 multi or something of that sort, goodluck
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The thread you linked to just explains how to get the hacked bootloader working on your tab... There's only one. A word of warning though: If you're on Linux, only the manual process works and it can be a bit fiddly... It seems that it doesn't work at all on some newer kernels and the script given in the thread is outdated. On windows, just use Blackthund3r's tool as suggested in civato's howto.
Thanks folks. Waiting on a 16gig SD card to come in before trying it. Looking forward to really using this tab since it's got that great HDMI out.
By the way when i said put gapps and rom prior to bootloader i mean save them to your sd card , don't flash it before the bootloader or else you'll need to reinstall a hc rom
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It is not necessery upgrading the boot loader to run an ICS or JB ROM!!!
The HC 3.0.1 boot loader is open, so it allows you to install what ever ROM you want.
And you can return every time you wish to your original HC ROM (backup) without the necessity of downgraiding again
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