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id like to know to know how well the phone performs after having used for at least 24 hours. I hear People complain about it lagging and being slow when switching homescreens specially if you add TouchWiz3 Widgets????
Im thinking of ordering one but want to hear from you guys. I Really dont support Samsung too much because well, THEY dont support their customers either. They say one thing with updates and promises but at the end they never fullfill their words. Any ideas???
If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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If theres samsung widgets on TW then yes it lags.. I use tw without samsungs widgets and dont get any slowness going on.
I personaly havent seen any slowness yet. But read others do. Maybe im lucky..
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That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
Yeah you can use Launcher PRO instead.
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That Truly Sucks. Is it still possible too use stock 2.1 Launcher and not TW like with most android phone?
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yea just use adw launcher or launcher pro. Fast as can be with either of those. But im digging the TW for now without the widgets...
Awesome. Thanks for the replies. i guess ill be picking one up later around 6pm at T-Mobile Corp. Store.
Only Thing i hate is after playing with nexus one, mytouch slide, HD2, i will be missing the Led Flash which i still wonder why they would not add such feauture.
Kinda makes me think its because they want to launch a new phone not too far away and add Flash so people want to upgrade their current phones to that:/
I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
I have had mine since Friday, used it with TW and samsung widgets without issue, but I like the customization from adw so I have been using that for the last couple days. So far I have no complaints about speed, just hoping the gps and compass issues get fixed soon.
I have 3 widgets, one of them being Buddies now and get very little lag. Only the pause when coming back to the home screen (not always happening)
New owner I have one widget no lag at all.
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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I am using Samsung Widgets in 3 of 5 my screens with no Lag; I find it curious anyone is having lag unless you have like 20 homescreens packed with widgets. The hummingbird processor in this beast has currently edged out all of the top of the line android phones for CPU speed and it also has the fastest GPU (PowerVR SGX540) as well, offering performance of almost 2x compared to the Evo and Nexus. Lag should not be a happening thing
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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I wish I could say the same. I have one widget, feeds and updates, and when it tries to refresh, it lags like hell. If I add the buddies now widget on another screen, just those 2 tw widgets are enough to make this feel like my original mytouch. Very disappointed in the lag.
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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No lag here, I was using touchwiz but I prefer the more stock look of adw launcher...
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I always love ADW because of the options and ESPECIALLY the "Drop to Uninstall" option.
but ADW would be just another program running, using more RAM. less use the better.
Yeah from what I can tell the TWLauncher is pretty light on the battery.
i just got rid of the 7 screens and am just using 1. i am gonna see if this helps with the overall performance of the phone. (from the homescreen> menu (haptic button)>edit> then delete the homescreens to your heart's content . You can always put them back by using the same method
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I currently have five screens, one has Weather Widget and battery widget, another has the feeds and updates widget, then 2 widgets for stocks (that only update when i tell them to) and youtube and google search widgets. No live wallpaper either. When adding more TW widgets, swiping screens is slower than my old mytouch.
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Could you describe the lag in more detail? How many screens do you have? What wallpaper are you using? Are those the only 2 widgets you are using? Is the lag a skipping or is the phone not responsive at all? Is it better after a reboot?
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I was running fine for a couple of days and then I started noticing the lag. Selecting the Settings menu would take a couple of seconds. Camera would take a while. I have also had 3 or 4 freezes and had to reboot my phone. Hardly ever happened on the G1 in two years. Would get a black screen for 3-4 seconds in between operations. No spinner. Initially kept thinking the phone was going to sleep.
I have 5 screens with the buddies widget, 2 picture frames, the double daily time widget and Google Search. Shouldn't be causing this hardware to so much as break sweat. I tried removing all widgets. But it didn't help.
What did help was rooting the phone and running the script to move the apps to NAND. But of course there's a limitation on the number of apps. So far, after doing this, it's much better. I'll see if this holds.
The lags have ruined an otherwise outstanding experience on this phone. I'm very disappointed with this performance on this hardware.
What's interesting here is that it's working well for some of you. Which makes it inexplicable why moving the apps to NAND should make such a difference. If this were a problem with the cache, it should have been a problem on every phone. Don't understand this.
The good news is that almost all of the problems I have with the phone should be software fixable.
When it works well, it truly is an amazing device.
I'm very interested in doing the lag fix but I'm intimidated by the process. Is it worth trying to learn ADB? Or should I wait until September for the 2.2 release?
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I have major lag only when using my corporate email (Exchange active sync). just opening, composing or deleting takes about 5 to 8 sec. Has anyone else experienced this?
Anyone notice when you swipe to unlock the screen it's noticeably laggy?
Same with swiping across screens...
Any reason for why this is?
Actually I've had the opposite experience. I've noticed a big improvement in the touchscreen compared to my previous Nexus One. And the device has a nice speed to it.
Opposite for me too.. the unlock lag is nothing compared to the Nexus, even on CM6.
So when your guys screen is locked and you swipe the lock to the right to unlock, it's smooth? I'm talking about the part your finger follows.
Yes completely smooth. I would compare my touchscreen to the iPhones in relation to its responsiveness.
Hmmm maybe a hard reset would fix it?
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I've experienced the same lag that you are talking about. The unlock slider seems to lag behind my finger as I drag it over the screen, not smooth at all.
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everything about the homescreen on the droid 2 is laggy, go from that to adw.launcher or launcher pro and it is so much smoother. and the lock screen is decently laggy as well.
Same here. Moto launcher and home screen are unnecessarily laggy.
Makes the whole phone experience seem slow.
Same here. I went back and forth between LauncherPro and ADW and ADW won... and now it's perfectly smooth.
Why can't Moto just give us the damn stock launcher as an option?
I suppose I can't complain too much... at least they allow switching launchers at all.
I just put launcher pro plus and all is well. Damn lock screen lag is still there though
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I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I notice the lag as well. Opening and closing apps that normally just pop.
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
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I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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What widgets are you using?
I have about 15 icons, weather widget and digital clock wiget on one screen and nothing on any of the other screens.
Hmmm that might be the problem. I'm using widgets on every screen. I've gone a bit widget bonkers! Having said that I had the same widgets on the Galaxy S2 and didn't suffer lag issues.
I have rooted and am waiting for some decent ROMS to appear, I'm sure that will fix???
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Hi friends.
I also notice lag and Im using the stock launcher and with almost no widgets.
Apart from the screen issues that one will notice if he uses the devise for reading.
I had the SGS2 before and the difference is noticable.
Such a pitty for such a promising devise.
I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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It's the same on my Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's never changed so I wouldn't worry about it.
There were some threads on the SGS2 forum about ideas on how to fix it if I remember rightly.
I love my note but i would have to agree that SG2 is faster compare to note . ( that make ppl feel like the note is laggy as they have used SG2 before )
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thank God the device is super fast....there is no lag at all.....just hard-reset the device and enjoy it
Launcher Pro is much smoother on my Note than ADW...
ADW EX is lightning fast with density hack at 240, all the others lagged.
Obviously mine is rooted. Also using Roboto font.
I have lag
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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Yeah I agree, I don't understand the lag with such a powerful device. I suppose it is possible that Samsung has used cheaper, slower dram in this phone. Even the Plus animation when the phone boots micro-stutters. Of well, hopefully in a month we can get our hands on the Nexus.
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I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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That's the nature of Android, because so many manufacturers can use it, developers need to program apps for all of them in mind and seeing they all have the potential to utilise different hardware you can't expect a developer to be able to foresee these things.
What we need to do is just put a request to the developers and ask if they can make it compatible with the Notes graphics card/drivers making it lag free.
This is exactly why virtually all native Samsung apps run fantastic, because their devs know the hardware and drivers hence know how to get full potential.
What would fix this is every time Google releases a version like ICS they should state exactly which hardware will be ALLOWED to run on this platform. But then you lose the openness.
It's a double edged sword, you have to take the good with the bad..
This is unfortunately where apple shines with the iphone because they make the OS and the device. If they just loosened up on their OS a little then we wouldn't be talking here
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The Note will ONLY get better with each update/support from either Samsung or our beloved developers.. And that's a one way direction.. O)nly better..
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Agreed in some respects...
Have you installed AnTuTu CPU master?
I have noticed that when the CPU is operating at 800mhz everything lags.
When I force the CPU to 1400mhz using AnTuTu the lag is present for the first homescreen swipe in ADW EX (DPI 260) then it's smooth as butter.
I have also observed this behaviour in launcher pro.
A guy on here recommended using BetterBatteryStats to possibly locate the apps/background services that are unnecessary hogging the CPU.
Fully agreed on the Iphone performance - but that is clearly due to software strictly tailored for hardware.
Android requires brute force due to software required to work on multiple devices
Gotta say tho my Galaxy Tab 7 (First Gen) with overcome is way faster in general operation than the Note... Until I force the processor to stay at 1400mhz - then it just flies.
Clearly the Note has a lot of potential.
I seriously hate the entire framework! lol. I want to get an AOSP rom already!
Not being impatient, just saying that touchwiz sucks compared to the android experience
What sucks about it? The custom vibrate for calls? The direct dial from a contract? The option to disable apps that you don't want to run? The ability to hide icons in the app drawer? The motion settings? The customizable lock screen icons? The lock screen weather? The lock screen news? The smart stay feature? The ability to use custom fonts at different sizes? The tap to top feature? Etc........
I really enjoy touchwiz, it just makes everything, shall I say, easier..
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I wouldn't say I hate it, but I'm quite sure I'll use cm9/10 or aokp as a daily driver when they become available. TW is OK, the device runs well but I don't thing more is always better and Samsung definitely packed as many software additions into this phone as they probably saw possible.
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There are a lot of better functions plus the stuff that samsung adds in like s voice pop up play and others. It is also more user friendly but people do not like the interface.. you can always install a launcher though xD
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There are a lot of better functions plus the stuff that samsung adds in like s voice pop up play and others. It is also more user friendly but people do not like the interface.. you can always install a launcher though xD
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Agreed, I like the features but I don't really like the launcher. Nova ftw
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Touchwiz ain't so bad once you put Apex or Nova on top of it
I do have apex installed and it makes things much better. But the UI throughout is not something I really like.
I never thought I would like stock touchwix, besides the launcher I think is pretty good, even has battery percentage without rooting, I can't Care less for s voice is too slow, but the os modifications are good, that being said AOKP still my favorite
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I was actually impressed by the fluidity of TW on my GSII, but seriously, it's so ugly. I think compared to sense, it's less laggy, but it's really a cartoonland nightmare.
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I was actually impressed by the fluidity of TW on my GSII, but seriously, it's so ugly. I think compared to sense, it's less laggy, but it's really a cartoonland nightmare.
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I guess this is my main hatred towards it. The design kinda sucks. It feels way to busy
I don't mind TouchWiz (I'm a child at heart), but I tried out Nova, and now my GSIII is "Boss" You want a awful Skin? Try MOTOBLUR. I'll never touch another Motorola phone again. Bloatware central for me.
Phone from old:
Motorola Defy W/MOTOBLUR.
I hear you. I was stoked for the extra features it had had and was excited that people said it was pretty close to stock ics. After running ics on my captivate I need pure android back ASAP lol...
Changing the launcher etc helps make it liveable though.
DAMNIT I CANT WAIT FOR PURE JELLYBEAN
I've tried Nova, Apex, Go, and none of them compare to TW when it comes to speed and fluidity. I prefer the look and customizations of either of those over TW but TW just flat out performs!
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I've tried Nova, Apex, Go, and none of them compare to TW when it comes to speed and fluidity. I prefer the look and customizations of either of those over TW but TW just flat out performs!
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I completely disagree. There is no noticeable difference in the performance between launchers.
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I completely disagree. There is no noticeable difference in the performance between launchers.
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
I like tochwiz. It's much better than Sense was on my Evo OG. Then again, I've always preferred stock plus root. It seems like none of the launchers or ROMs work as they should.
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
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You use your phone with power saving mode turned on? :S
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't change what my experience was on my phone. TW is head and shoulders more smooth, fluid and fast. The only way I was able to get either of them close to TW in those departments was using Nova, but even then I had to have the speed set to "faster than light" and power saving mode had to be turned off....TW is smoother, faster and more fluid with power savings on compared to any of the launchers I've tried.
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I disagree. Your signature is annoying as well. Maybe size it to something other than obnoxious.
I love tw. I haven't even thought about installing a replacment launcher let alone installing a custom rom. Its so smooth! Then again in coming from motoblur..
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So this is my fifth day with the galaxy S4 and I've observed it to be laggy and it freezes from time to time. I've read others saying the same and I'm hoping Samsung does a software update soon. What are your opinions and are their things I can do to make the experience better?
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Disabling Air View, Air Gesture, Smart Stay, Smart Scroll, freezing some bloat (including Samsung Link) have seemed to help me a little.
Overall though, it is definitely more choppy than I feel a phone of its caliber should be. I imagine its some stupid simple (CPU governor, some rogue bloatware, etc.) - I hope a remedy is found soon
Install Nova launcher and override the transition animations with either slide or ICS. That takes care of the stutters when opening and closing apps.
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Also under development options turn animations off and force gpu rendering, see if that helps you.
Disable a bunch of features,replace launcher and then disable animations and hope that stops the lag. Not good enough Sammy. Not good enough
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I've read that 4.2.2 has it's own lag issues on top of those introduced by TouchWiz. I use all the "Smart", "View" features and while I notice some lag here and there I feel these features are worth it. I really enjoy the Gesture scrolling in the stock browser, that makes people go, "Wha???". The only place I feel lag should NOT occur is in the keyboard, which is especially poor on the S4.
But all-in-all, I feel the features Samsung has added are worth the 1 to < 1 Sec lag I get here and there. Also, I've noticed freezing Samsung stuff can actually have an opposite effect. I have all Samsung stuff enabled/unfrozen and only froze the AT&T stuff, I get best battery life and response that way.