Dev's To Make Money From Ad's - Epic 4G General

http://www.airpush.com/?gclid=CIrFjMj3lLECFSVvTAoda3PpmQ
Anybody heard of this?
Seems like a cool idea kind of like Admob but seems better.

I refuse to use apps that have that it's annoying as hell seeing my notification drawer with an ad, or I block them..
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Why the hell would anyone support that idea? Ads in notification bar? That's intrusive as hell.
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Zeinzu said:
Why the hell would anyone support that idea? Ads in notification bar? That's intrusive as hell.
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The idea of making money is nice but yes I know the problem with ads in apps are annoying.
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you guys should all look for "addons detector" in the market. it tells you exactly how intrusive ads are in each app.

Eww... ads
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
Eww... ads
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But if we used ad block would it still get the developer or advertiser money? Or would it have to be clicked on to actually initiate.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
The idea of making money is nice but yes I know the problem with ads in apps are annoying.
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Ads in apps are hardly the issue here. Airpush ads show up even when the app is supposed to be closed, which means an unwanted background service and the battery drain to go with it. Some apps have even used airpush to present ads disguised as reputable notifications, like the android version of the web popup that looks like antivirus software. And none of them will indicate which app they came from (because the developers who use it know that their app would be uninstalled after the first ad)
But if you can't earn money legitimately, have no clue what people really want or just don't care, then this would probably seem like an attractive option (maybe even so much that you might be tempted to make a thread about it in a forum somewhere...)
Here are two apps to help you find and remove apps that are made by developers who know they won't earn much through the merit of their work alone:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brosmike.airpushdetector
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.denper.addonsdetector
The first one is open source, and I can vouch for its effectiveness. The developer of that app believes that the main appeal of his app is that it is open source, but if that doesn't matter to you then he actually recommends the second app in his app's market description, because it has better features
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XxLostSoulxX said:
But if we used ad block would it still get the developer or advertiser money? Or would it have to be clicked on to actually initiate.
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Unless I'm mistaken, the only way devs get money for ads is when people actually click on them - even if we don't use adblock, ignoring the annoying banners has the same effect on the developers' accounts
That's why some apps seem to have crappy layouts, such that you accidentally click an ad instead of the button you were aiming for. The layout often was actually much more carefully planned out than it seems.
And that brings me to another shady aspect of airpush ads - clicking on the notification is like clicking the ad. I don't mind ads where I have a choice, but even CM's swipe-to-dismiss feature doesn't necessarily clear out the notification permanently - the only sure-fire way to clear it out is to click on it, so the only way to clear the ad is to click the ad or uninstall the offending app... I always use the second option, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one
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New Android Market?

It's gotten a little.... green.
Welcome to about last week.
... and the market still sucks. No way to sort by popularity or # of downloads, search results usually yield Asian crap unrelated to your query, and its slow.
I love Android, I love tinkering with it, but they really need to fix the market. When I search for "xda developer" I shouldn't get pages upon pages of garbage in a language I can't speak. I should also be able to filter searches by free, paid, rating, downloads, etc.
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Very much a mess still... Oh well
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Intratech said:
Welcome to about last week.
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You got me.
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snapper.fishes said:
You got me.
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I knew it was out but i dont have it still!
New market doesn't show my downloaded free apps! Anyone got the same problem? If so, how is it solveable? BTW, if I search for those apps, then they show as installed - but not in my apps. Go figure.
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I don't like the barf green at all. Other than that it seems to work fine so far, I haven't had an stuck in authorizing/installing issues like I had before yet. But I have had it lag a bit several times.
I do wonder if this is partially my SD card failing or something.
I have to admit being an app designer myself. It looks ****ty and amateur. However the usability fells much better.
Google pretty much build solid apps but design sucks. Just imagine I'd they invested in good designers, they would kick ass.
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hugo5 said:
New market doesn't show my downloaded free apps! Anyone got the same problem? If so, how is it solveable? BTW, if I search for those apps, then they show as installed - but not in my apps. Go figure.
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Clear market cache and something from the settings. Restart after clearing cache.
My old market didn't show downloaded free apps any more. What I did was go to preferences - applications. Then to market and erase its data.
After starting market I had the new market! And all installed apps were visible again.
I prefer not to have an option to sort by ratings/download number. If available, people would search for something, sort the list by ratings and download the top one or the second.
Not being able to sort by ratings gives less known applications the opportunity to shine in the market.

Why phone designed apps are awesome for Xoom

THE ADS ARE SOOO SMALL!!! XD
I love it's especially on the xda app, its in the bottom left hand corner, and is barely noticable.
Someone should start a thread on good apps that work on the Xoom, or start it here, I personally would but I'm new to android, which is why I would like to know some good apps. I mostly operate off 3g connection, which is why I don't want to try the download and try and delete method.
3 gigs 35 dollar $-$ wtf.
Ill start with what I have downloaded that's not a tablet app and works fine.
-Xda (obviously)
-Astro file manager
-skype (I read somewhere that they were going to make a tablet specific version for a fee)
-Dr Webb for android
That's all really.
Two that I dl'd that didn't work were vevo and pocketcloud
Vevo didn't play videos at all but I haven't tried on wifi yet.
Pocketcloud worked like it should with massive lag even on wifi, might just be cause its a free app, I dont know, like I mentioned thus is my first android device. And I must say, it wins.
Anyway, please help me find great apps and ill return the favor.
One awesome one for tablets is PewPew
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Lol, I hadn't noticed the ad until you mentioned it. Just loaded xda on my xoom.
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yeah i love that. but im sure they will change it and have ads take up more space.
Pay for the premium XDA app. Support the community and it's only $0.99 . I paid for it and I love the XDA theme and being able to set the app up the way I want it.
My xda app crashes all the time. At first I thought it was my rooted evo, but it does the same thing at the same place on the xoom. Hard to pay for something that keeps fc'ing.
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Sirchuk said:
My xda app crashes all the time. At first I thought it was my rooted evo, but it does the same thing at the same place on the xoom. Hard to pay for something that keeps fc'ing.
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I posted a thread about that too but nothing has changed since... Sad to see that our support is not appreciated!
B Dizzle said:
Pay for the premium XDA app. Support the community and it's only $0.99 . I paid for it and I love the XDA theme and being able to set the app up the way I want it.
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If a tablet version is made, I will definitely buy the app. There are a lot of features I'd like to take advantage off that's not in the free app. But the free app does freeze a lot, right now I'm not even able to get into it because it's been stuck at the XDA loading screen. I can't seem to get it past that.
And I know they're going to make tablet apps with Huge ads, thats why phone apps are better
Hopefully they do make a tablet app for XDA tho, I'll even pay $2 if it has most the features of the site.
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Pay for the premium XDA app. Support the community and it's only $0.99 . I paid for it and I love the XDA theme and being able to set the app up the way I want it.
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When they take out the unneeded permissions (GPS, phone identity) I will. Till then I use the web browser.
Go to manage applications in settings and reset the cache for the XDA App and it should fix the problem.
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GetJar is giving out 100 free apps

GetJar is giving out 100 paid apps for free. Here is the site to get an idea of what they are offering and the getjar.apk.
Side note: GetJar runs as a service in the background, so what I do is find the app I want, download it and either uninstall or "freeze" it to stop the service from running and eating my data/battery [see my guide for more detail on this].
Have fun and happy downloading (and unlike the Market sale, there are actually some utility/productivity apps included).
GetJar is offering over 100 paid Android apps for free! To compete against Google’s 10 Billion App Downloads promotion and Amazon’s “One Paid App for free everyday“, GetJar has come out with its own offering which is better than both the Google’s official Android market and Amazon’s app market.
Usually when offers like this come about the apps are quite crap, this is not the case with GetJar’s deal. Some notable apps which are being offered for free are Paper Camera, TweetCaster Pro, They Need To Be Fed, Splashtop Remote Desktop and more.
All you have to do to access the free apps is download GetJar for your mobile by hitting this url into your mobile phone browser - m.getjar.com/gold
You can check out all the apps available here - GetJar have very nicely laid out all the apps on a side-scrolling type page.
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Source: http://theultralinx.com/2011/12/100-paid-android-apps-free-getjar-gold.html
Thanks for this I just got some nice apps for free!! But where did you get all 100? I don't think it shows a 100 on that website or in the app
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Just what I read in the source site. First line says Getjar gives 100 away. Glad you got some good ones.
hmmm Word Up!
Getjar giving away stuff...how novel!
What they do not tell you is that their crappy app runs constantly in the background! Unlike amazon or android market Getjar is a real battery drain!
With our poor vibrants battery life being what it is, I personally would rather keep it "alive" longer for other things than scanning getjars web site for news/files.
If they were to change this detail, then it would be worth revisiting untill then not for me.
Hope this helps!
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Getjar giving away stuff...how novel!
What they do not tell you is that their crappy app runs constantly in the background! Unlike amazon or android market Getjar is a real battery drain!
With our poor vibrants battery life being what it is, I personally would rather keep it "alive" longer for other things than scanning getjars web site for news/files.
If they were to change this detail, then it would be worth revisiting untill then not for me.
Hope this helps!
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Nice thing is you can remove it after you get the apps you want and you don't need it to run them.
yeah the app itself runs your battery like water... i dont understand why but i uninstalled it after i saw in 5 minutes my battery decreased 10%
Hence my sidenote in the OP about it running as a background service. I've seen that same drain before on other times I have used it. That is why I usually get what I need and then kick the app to the curb.
Just curious are we able to update these apps through the regular Android market
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Just curious are we able to update these apps through the regular Android market
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Usually not. They do get linked to the Market though; so you'll get an update alert. But when you try to update you'll get a message saying you can't because "you didn't pay for the app." A little annoying; but it's true.
Once in a while it does work though. I think I was able to update Paper Camera a while ago.
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Getjar has been been giving free apps for a while now. The sad thing is NO updates.
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iwillkillyou said:
Getjar has been been giving free apps for a while now. The sad thing is NO updates.
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That's the downside when you get apps from Getjar. But their free apps are really good, even better than Amazon appstore.
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Originally Posted by iwillkillyou
Getjar has been been giving free apps for a while now. The sad thing is NO updates.
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That's the downside when you get apps from Getjar. But their free apps are really good, even better than Amazon appstore.
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Exactly my point... u miss out on new features on updates. Its a good way of previewing apps before u buy though.
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I got a few apps the other day and none of them are showing up in my Market. I'm not new to GetJar, I know they aren't going to update, but I've been having problems with my phone and would like to know if this is happening to anyone else.
Been using it for about 6 months now and there have been some real good apps.
try redownloading the apps once an update is shown in Market.
Sometimes it takes them a while but they do update the versions in GetJar.
cheers

Battery update

Hi!
Does anybody know what this battery update is. I got it as an update and to unlock the full features, I had to pay 3€per month!
I immediately unistalled this.
Is it spam? Virus!
Best regards
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What are you referring to? No link.
It sounds suspicious though.
It came like a system update and then it installed a battery app that monitored my battery behavior and wanted me to pay 3€ per month ;-)
This is the first time I see something like this on my android phones!?
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I've never heard of anything like that. It does sound very suspicious.
As you say, probably scareware/malware.
Now I have to look for an app to remove what ever is doing this ;-)
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It is probably related to an app you have already installed. Go through any apps you aren't sure are from trusted sources/devs.
Thanks for the tip, I will check my apps. All my apps are from market place, its sad if we cannot trust the market?
Regards
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The sad thing is mate you can't trust the market. You have to be careful what your installing!
Always check what permissions needs the app you are downloading depends of the type you dl it should need the right permissions. So lets say you dl a game and it needs permission for your contacts and call services then it is up to you to dl it I would never. And as long the developers have no other way to get cash they implant ofc in their apps some advertises so be carefully all the time.
And market is like Facebook a no money platform that helps people to find things, but it moment check what it provides, it is on the user to report bad apps. So many people abuse that.
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Thanks a lot, I will try to be careful, and read before accepting anything this time.
Regards
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Are you serious?
Lol that's one of the scammiest things I've ever heard of.
If I were you I'd factory reset, and in future only install well reviewed and tested apps.
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As a rule of thumb, I don't click on any links from any app, except the browser
I use a program that lets you assign permissions to any app. Anything that I install that I don't think needs to access contacts, location etc, I just block.
It has a side benefit of blocking the stupid ads in the apps also.
Try to use "LBE privacy guard" from the market its free!
NEED ROOT!
With this app u can control every app u installed give and take permissions!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sYmUuc2VjdXJpdHkubGl0ZSJd
I had one of these updates in my notification menu. Never installed it though.
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I get this when I play certain games.
its just an in game advert made to look official which links to an app in the market.
It reads something like " You have two Battery updates available"
Download addon detektor then you can see whats causing the the push ad
And remove that battery thingy its probably the one that steals your contacts for spam
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Try to use "LBE privacy guard" from the market its free!
With this app u can control every app u installed give and take permissions!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sYmUuc2VjdXJpdHkubGl0ZSJd
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It requires root for full features.
equalness said:
Hi!
Does anybody know what this battery update is. I got it as an update and to unlock the full features, I had to pay 3€per month!
I immediately unistalled this.
Is it spam? Virus!
Best regards
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Unfortunately you have been hit by a 'Scareware' attack.
As Android is becoming more popular and unlike Apple which has tighter control the Android OS is much more open to attacks such as this.
You really have to be on your guard watching for these malicious attacks.
Read the comments from PCWorld and 2Viruses for a greater explanation.

The joys of Lucky Patcher

No, this is not associated with piracy as are most cases with this app. After many weeks of extensive testing I've learned that Lucky Patcher can drastically increase the battery life of Android devices. There are a lot of apps out there that stop ads in applications but that doesn't stop the application from waking up your device and sending a request for the ad. I would barely make 8 hours of battery life with that happening and after using Lucky Patcher to remove Google ads from apps that had them my battery life has tripled. Test it for yourselves.
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Interesting, im going to try this.
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djluis48 said:
Interesting, im going to try this.
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Has it worked for you?
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8 hours of moderate use, texting, a few calls, web browsing and minor gaming, and I'm at 82%.
My longest was about 3 days with only texting and light browsing.
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Anyone have the apk? Can't seem to find it in play store.
cause you can't. This app is for cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication, adblocks and other illegal things
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cause you can't. This app is for cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication, adblocks and other illegal things
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So wouldn't that make things like Ad Free and ROM Toolbox illegal since they almost do the same thing when it comes to blocking ads? Those apps stop you from receiving ads while lucky patcher stops the apps from sending a request for them. Both stop the ads while lucky patcher stops the apps from sending a request for them which will increase your battery life. A while back I read something on MSN news about how these ads diminish battery life and this is just a way to stop that. Either way, lucky patcher AND apps like ROM Toolbox and Ad Free would technically be illegal because they both stop the ads. It all depends on how you use them. That's like saying apps like Root Explorer are illegal because you can copy data you've downloaded online for a paid app and use it for free when most of us use it in different ways.
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read carefuly, "cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication"... adblocking is one from those things. You can download app for free, but you have to accept adverts. Simply.
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read carefuly, "cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication"... adblocking is one from those things. You can download app for free, but you have to accept adverts. Simply.
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Not to be rude, but its MY phone. I can put on/take off, block whatever I want on it. I get all my ad blockers from the Play Store.
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I played around with permissions for fun. I changed some on words free and it resulted in a boot loop. Wipe cache wipe dalvik fix permissions and still a boot loop.. I had to do a full wipe.. be warned. Do a full backup if you plan to mess around with this thing
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andrew.cambridge said:
Not to be rude, but its MY phone. I can put on/take off, block whatever I want on it. I get all my ad blockers from the Play Store.
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones
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Yes, I know, but pre4speed ask "Anyone have the apk? Can't seem to find it in play store.", so I told him why
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read carefuly, "cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication"... adblocking is one from those things. You can download app for free, but you have to accept adverts. Simply.
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So you're saying Ad Free and ROM Toolbox are illegal? There's no difference between between not sending a request for an ad and not receiving an ad. Either way, the ad is not being shown and the people who made the apps are not getting paid. So just about every ROM out there is illegal because it contains ROM Toolbox?
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Neroga said:
So you're saying Ad Free and ROM Toolbox are illegal? There's no difference between between not sending a request for an ad and not receiving an ad. Either way, the ad is not being shown and the people who made the apps are not getting paid. So just about every ROM out there is illegal because it contains ROM Toolbox?
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I think the major issue is "cracking other apps". AdFree simply blocks ad urls (via HOSTS), it does not block the application from requesting the ad from the internet. The app in question modifies other program code to remove the ad functionality, etc - this is the licensing issue....
Edit: I don't use ROM Toolbox, but its description does say that it blocks ads by IP as well, same as AdFree. Blocking Internet traffic in/out is one thing, modifying other licensed code for this app's reason is quite another. While I understand the battery life issue and it does make sense, you agree to the ads when you install the (quite often Free) apps.....
Edit2: Don't get me wrong, if you use it and it works, use it - it is your phone. This is simply the reason you won't find it on the Play Store!
god damn it... read carefuly, it's just examples... using ROM Toolbox isn't illegal to use, but you have to get rooted phone. If you have rooted phon you have violated the guarantee
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god damn it... read carefuly, it's just examples... using ROM Toolbox isn't illegal to use, but you have to get rooted phone. If you have rooted phon you have violated the guarantee
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LOL and this too :good:
That's the problem in itself. Yes. Free apps. They get paid for the advertising. So modifying the app or just blocking it via host files does the same thing. Stops the ads. Meaning that both are technically illegal.
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ovitz said:
Yes, I know, but pre4speed ask "Anyone have the apk? Can't seem to find it in play store.", so I told him why
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Just a side note. He (meaning me) is a she. Lol. Thanx for the info
On the note of piracyy, has anyone heard that the protection of apps has increased in jelly bean and it is not possible to crack new apps that will include this feature?
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Just a side note. He (meaning me) is a she. Lol. Thanx for the info
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Lol its a stereotype not many women users on xda.
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does lucky patcher work on Jelly Bean?

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