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http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-promises-netflix-streaming-support-on-future-android-d/
Anyone read this yet? I mean, the HD7 (which has a netflix app) is running the same snapdragon processor as the Nexus One and Evo. This seams like a load of BS to me...
Netflix has issues with DRM on Android. Many game developers have also cited similiar concerns. The next version of snapdragon will handle DRM through hardware making it independent of OS.
Put attention to the blue part:
... meet all of the DRM requirements for Watch Instantly. ...
CPU power isn't the culprit and never was.
so if it isnt a harware issue, then why has it taken them so long to implement these "DRM securities". WP7 had netflix on launch day, why didnt android get these back when iOS got them?
Errrrrrm... because they all use a different software OS?
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danger-rat said:
Errrrrrm... because they all use a different software OS?
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Once you create the program, its pretty easy to port it from OS to OS
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Once you create the program, its pretty easy to port it from OS to OS
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Not if a key component of your program relies on a feature one of the OSs doesn't support.
I think the problem is the way android handles DRM - or that's why Netflix has issues, at least...
Netflix appears to be happy with iOS and Windows, and the way they handle DRM.
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Past post from Netflix seems to indicate they ate not happy about this either. This is a requirement of their licensed agreement with studios; not something Netflix wants. Same reason Netflix is not on Linux either.
Still, Netflix have an app on the Logitech Revue, so all is not lost...
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And that's the story of how I canceled my Netflix subscription. Thanks for the rips, but I can no longer justify the monthly fee, especially since the N1 just got **** canned as ever getting the app.
Pretty lame IMO. I can log on to my bank's website from my phone, paypal has an app, there is an app to accept credit card swipes with the phone and the square reader... yet Netflix can't figure out how to stream a movie or tv show to it safely. STUPID.
This has more to do with the movie and television studios than netflix. They've said to netflix that this is the only way to protect the mobile streams that they will accept. Netflix has to comply because no studios == no content deals.
If the only reason you had a netflix account was so you could watch it on a small 4 inch screen I would cancel too. That seems like a waste of netflix lol.
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On a related note, has anything relating to the rumored Amazon Streaming service materialized yet? I'm itching for a reason to drop my Netflix for a more Linux friendly solution. Really tired of being treated like a second-class citizen for using a better OS.
yeah, I don't get it? i mean,.. if you was to download the app you still have to log in right? So is not like you can hack it. Unless they're afraid of long press save video option but honestly who wants to save low quality videos like that?
Yeah I don't understand the DRM thing either. You have to log in, therefore a DRM is already in place.
Maybe there can be some video capture software on the Android. "Great! Now I can capture a crappy quality mobile optimized video and throw it on a torrent website great!"
Hell, people probably already have Bluray rips up. It's not like Netflix gets their content in a timely manner...
yeah if your logged in than what does it matter, people have faster way of going around the whole drm thing on a pc/mac so why would too many people bother with a cell phone.
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yeah, I don't get it? i mean,.. if you was to download the app you still have to log in right? So is not like you can hack it. Unless they're afraid of long press save video option but honestly who wants to save low quality videos like that?
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Umm, what? You can still hack things you have to log into... They may know which user did it, but you could set up an account with fake information... The "hacking" netflix wants to avoid is people downloading full movies from them. People could make a fake account, download a bunch of movies from netflix, and then distribute them on the internet.
We all know that there are already better blu-ray rips available on the web, but the movie studios don't care, and unfortunately, they hold netflix by the balls on protecting their content. Its dumb, but its not Netflix's fault.
I'm as annoyed as anyone about this, but Netflix obviously wants to be on Android, its a giant platform.
The problem is, they are required by studios to use hardware encryption built into the processor on the device, but every processor is different and not all phones actually have the libraries needed to access that encryption (they said this, and I can see how that would be true). So Netflix says they are doing as much as they can. From all outward appearances, we can't know if they really are working as hard as they can or not, but its not unreasonable to think they're being truthful when they say that. It very well could be tough for them to implement.
I do think that if they don't figure out something at least for Tegra 2, and fast, they're missing a big opportunity, but lets not blame them yet. If its not out in a few months, then they're a bunch of ****ers, but lets give them time. If they get Netflix for Xoom before Adobe gives it flash, I'll consider them "fast enough". I don't think they will, but lets hope!
-Taylor
I don't see the big deal of having Netflix on your phone. But I guess people really want to watch their favorite episode of Cake Boss on a 3.7 inch screen.
Canceled my netflix today.with no foreseeable future of n1 support, the stream library is just not worth the 8 bucks a month.
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I don't see the big deal of having Netflix on your phone. But I guess people really want to watch their favorite episode of Cake Boss on a 3.7 inch screen.
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Yeah I'm with you, I can never find the time to watch videos outside of short youtube clips on my phone, I don't see how people can watch a movie on it. I much prefer my netflix through my Xbox 360 on my 42 inch HDTV.
Hi everyone
I haven't posted / lurked the firums here since back when I baught my original nexus one phone.
Shortly after that the iPhone 4 and eventually the 4s came out and I have found it hard to go back to android ( I liked the simplicity of iOS)
Lately i am getting over the struggle between Apple and the hackers that allow customers do do what they want with their device. ( I always have my iPhone hacked just so I can run the tweaks apple don't provide)
The apple tv pairs quite nicely with my iPhone and I have also hacked that to run plex so I can stream from my pc.
Development for plex on apple tv is slow and usually buggy due to apples restrictions and every update means developers need to wait for a jailbreak before they can continue development..
Which brings me to the point of this post. The nexus q just might be what I need to come back to android.
These are what would convince me to come back
1. Streaming from pc not just from google play ( I believe it's already being worked on / almost done )
2. Plex / other apps like airtight working ( I believe they should eventually)
3. This would be the icing on the cake. Being able to start a movie / tv show that is on my pc over 3G. Eg. Tge girlfriend is at home and wants to watch a movie but is not too tech savvy so I load plex or a similar app on my phone while I'm at work and select a movie from my library that is on my pc at home and it starts playing on the nexus q!
Should these become a reality I would buy a galaxy s3 and a nexus q right away.
What other things would MAKE you buy a nexus q?
Well only two reasons prevent me from buying one.
Nexus Q is not available in Europe
No Music/Movie/TV Shows in the german Play store
So without the ability to stream whatever I want without the Play Store, it is quite useless at the moment. As soon as stable Custom Roms allow me to stream over WiFi and/or run XBMC I'll import one.
I like the Design, the basic Idea and well, Android. I just don't get why Google kind of messed this up by leaving it up to the Community to make this Ball of any use.
I am hoping the awesome devs have this thing cracked wide open with opportunity soon.
As for the leaving it to the community i kind of like the idea. Its like Google saying we trust the community and don't want to influence them one way or another so they gave them pretty much an empty slate to work with.
You can do music. vpn into music.google then it activates.
I just wish this thing wasn't $299.
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You can do music. vpn into music.google then it activates.
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I have activated music, however I can't order anything since checkout does not let me buy stuff with my credit card. Besides that I'd have to use a proxy 24/7 which slows down everything. That is not the kind of "experience" google wants to deliver and I don't want to have it either.
It is time that Google goes global with those things, can't be that hard...
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I have activated music, however I can't order anything since checkout does not let me buy stuff with my credit card. Besides that I'd have to use a proxy 24/7 which slows down everything. That is not the kind of "experience" google wants to deliver and I don't want to have it either.
It is time that Google goes global with those things, can't be that hard...
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My guess is the problem lies with the content deals being restricted by geographic region. Blame the content owners.
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I say a realistic price would spur my purchase. $99.
Frankly, with my PC connected to my TVs and audio receiver already, and my phone, tablets, etc already able to connect to my PC and/or TV, I just don't see an advantage to this device.
I'm sure the new nexus q will have some awesome features, I'm not sure about the ones you need but the wonderful thing about android is I'm sure one of our great developers will make that all possible. I have the q and I like it, I'm definitely going to need some more features to really love it but what I have now is great... Especially because it's free.
The new one will most likely be cheaper and have more features I think that it will be better than the Apple tv.
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Frankly, with my PC connected to my TVs and audio receiver already, and my phone, tablets, etc already able to connect to my PC and/or TV, I just don't see an advantage to this device.
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Samsung Phones
If you own Samsung devices, just get allshare.
I have a ps3 and I can stream content to it via Wi-Fi from my PC or my nexus 7.... really no reason for a Q. If I were to get it, it would be because it looks cool.
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I have a ps3 and I can stream content to it via Wi-Fi from my PC or my nexus 7.... really no reason for a Q. If I were to get it, it would be because it looks cool.
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+1 I was pretty excited about the Q when I first saw it. I liked the design, the size of it etc but the reviews had me thinking I was better off with my PS3 set up.
hey
has anyone hacked one of these to do other things
Someone needs to buy/donate one of these for a capable dev for Christmas.
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Of course. The thing that I did immediately was get SqueezePlayer running on it. This allows the Q to play local music over the network in just about any format (e.g. mp3, 24-bit flac, etc.). Control is handled by an app on your phone/tablet like Orange Squeeze, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Squeezebox Controller, or by pointing your browser to the Logitech Media Server's web interface. Oh, by the way, this also works with Squeezebox apps (e.g. Spotify, Pandora, Rhapsody, Slacker, MOG, etc.). Checkout the list here: http://www.mysqueezebox.com/appgallery
The Q has a ton of potential right out of the box and is easily worth what it is going for on eBay these days - if the user is savvy enough to exploit its potential.
I think the Q was the perfect device for a place like a bedroom where you'd otherwise just have a simple shelf unit (or I do at least). It's more convenient and a bit cleaner than always connecting your phone to the aux input. Plus, it's nice to be able to control it remotely.
The only thing is that it's too expensive. It's priced as a high-end device, but in most of us already have a "high-end" solution for this sort of thing (ie: a PC or similar) which can do a lot more. A device like the Q needs to be [just a bit] cheaper so that it can compete with a shelf unit. Though I realize I'm not the first one to say this.
Saw this at Engadget, bought the premium version for my N5. Download the free trial version and verify it works with your devices, and then buy the premium license for $4.99 (there are time limits for streaming with the trial version). It streams movies and pics from your phone / tablet to your TV using one of the following devices:
* Roku
* Apple TV
* Xbox 360, Xbox One
* Samsung Smart TVs
* Panasonic Smart TVs
* Google TV (Logitech Revue, etc)
* DLNA Renderers
Reportedly it will support music soon, and Chromecast support is also reportedly coming.
I used it over my Roku and it works well, streamed Dredd with no problems. Cool little app.
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Saw this at Engadget, bought the premium version for my N5. Download the free trial version and verify it works with your devices, and then buy the premium license for $4.99 (there are time limits for streaming with the trial version). It streams movies and pics from your phone / tablet to your TV using one of the following devices:
* Roku
* Apple TV
* Xbox 360, Xbox One
* Samsung Smart TVs
* Panasonic Smart TVs
* Google TV (Logitech Revue, etc)
* DLNA Renderers
Reportedly it will support music soon, and Chromecast support is also reportedly coming.
I used it over my Roku and it works well, streamed Dredd with no problems. Cool little app.
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Not trying to complain, but this is a bit pricey for a beta app. Can't get it to stream movies on the free version. Who knows how long it will be supported also.
Like I said, try the free version on your devices before buying. It worked on mine. I think you're limited to like 60 seconds of video with the free version (just enough to see if it works, I guess).
I have Rokus all over the house, so this works great for me.
Oops, doubletap...
Huh didn't know about this, great find too bad no support for ps3 =[
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Not trying to complain, but this is a bit pricey for a beta app. Can't get it to stream movies on the free version. Who knows how long it will be supported also.
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Pretty sure it is out of beta.
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Pretty sure it is out of beta.
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Yeah, it came out of beta today: https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/XDZLpU8uYt4
Although, I saw the point of the app when you "Shared to..." from other apps when it was in beta but now it's just all one inclusive app. It makes me confused considering I don't really keep movies or tv shows on my phone and if I ever share pictures/video it's not typically in a living room setting.
i use Twonky Beam https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pv.twonkybeam to stream music and videos from my device to my so's LG tv since 'on device' media cannot be streamed natively. Works great so far
lot of updates recently?
I received 3 alone yesterday, one today also dated back for yesterday. (also several over the last week)
Changing version numbers, but no changelog or other version history in the PlayStore.
I am pretty sure I could watch a video longer than 60 seconds on my Xbox when I last tried and PS3 didn't work. Has that changed? Can't try it out because I'm at my mother's house for the holidays.
PS
merry xmas!
When (if) it gets chromecast support I'll get it. Then I can actually use the thing.
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Hmm... It doesn't seem to work with the Apple TV (3rd gen) for me. It just keeps spinning away.
Beta worked ok for me but I couldn't stream online services like Youtube, If your gonna drop some dollars on such an app I would also consider Streambels The 7 day free demo worked very good for me. Only downside opposed to AllCast is that you need to start the app first.
updated today to work with the chromecast
Cant get AllCast to work the last 6 months
No movie passes 5-15min with LG g3 d855. And I have the exakt the same problem with with Moto G4 plus, it disconnects my Hitachi 50hzt66 tv, I've payed for this app and if you cant get it to work, I want a reufund! Love your others apps so its just this one I cant get to work. All others apps and nougats 6.01 own cast works flawless.
Please solve this, because Ihave two more friends with the same problem. Best reegards Pierre Hellner Gothenburg Sweden
Hello,
I am interested in getting a Nexus Player. I love all of the customizations that can be done with it. I especially like the fact that you can install an internet browser and use a Logitech K400 with it. (with some mods and adapters I know) Only thing I am wondering is if this fall there will be a Gen 2 released along side the new Nexus 5 and 6? I would hate to buy one now and two months later, boom heres gen 2. Anyone have any input on this?
Also, I like the Forge TV but i don't believe it is nearly as customizable as the Nexus is it?
I haven't heard any rumors about a new Android TV device from Google. Even the Chromecast hasn't had a hardware update yet and that's been out for a lot longer than the Nexus Player. If there's a retailer near you that offers an extended return policy on a product like this, maybe that's something to consider if you're concerned about a new hardware announcement. I haven't used a Razer Forge TV but with the Nexus Player being so affordable and customizable, Google's current Android TV hardware is still a good choice and is worth buying.
Thank you for your response. I have looked all over for info on a Nexus Player Gen 2 and have found nothing myself. I just figured this was a good place to ask. I will go for the nexus player then. This helps making my new TV purchase a lot easier as well. No smart tv needed, just a tv with a Nice display panel.
I have both a Nexus Player and Forge TV. If you use Netflix, don't buy the Forge because after months it still doesn't have Netflix. Nexus Player works great. Hopefully one day the Forge TV will get Netflix because I would rather use it with its built in Ethernet port.
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If you can get it for about $50 its absolutely worth it.
i regret my purchase. my netflix app barely ever works, and not that many major apps support it, like hbo, sling tv or amazon instant. you would be much better off with fire tv IMO, especially now cause you can sideload kodi and im pretty sure its easily rootable and you can get google services and play store installed now. it has a better remote and more conectivity too
not to mention that the fire tv 2 is rumored to being released soon
OP, I think it will depend on what use you will give the device you end up getting.
I'm running mine with the latest M Preview build and it works great.
I was able to load Kodi straight from the Play Store (thru the web version to be specific), as well as other apps (e.g. ES File Explorer, few emulators, etc.).
I have an 3-way splitter OTG cable for my Rii K12 Ultra Slim keyboard/mousepad and a 32GB flash drive.
Again, it will depend on your use....
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i regret my purchase. my netflix app barely ever works, and not that many major apps support it, like hbo, sling tv or amazon instant. you would be much better off with fire tv IMO, especially now cause you can sideload kodi and im pretty sure its easily rootable and you can get google services and play store installed now. it has a better remote and more conectivity too
not to mention that the fire tv 2 is rumored to being released soon
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To counter this, the Fire TV is NOT easily rootable; you have to either have a very old firmware from a US only model, or be willing to solder parts to it. Google Play Services don't work well on it, and its still on 4.2.2 so a lot of apps from outside the Amazon store don't work. The new developer software is 5.1, but that makes accessing Kodi difficult as sideloaded apps remain hidden in a submenu of settings.
I'm trying to replace mine now, as I'm sick of working around Amazon's arbitrary limitations.
Thank you all for your input. I ended up getting a Nvidia Shield Console. I love it! The main reason I went with the Shield is because I currently have/use a 42" 4K TV. So it just made the most sense to me to get. I know a lot of content isnt broadcasted in 4K yet but some is with more to come. I have already watched some Netflix stuff in 4K. Looks awesome!!! The free Grid games are a nice touch as well. I have 100mbps net so Grid games run great! (I use wired connection, not WiFi)
I know you went another route. I bought the Nexus Player because I wanted to stop renting a cable box. I bought an HD HOMERUN PRIME and only rent a cable card from the cable company now. I found out the hard way that I can only watch "unprotected/ non DRM channels" on my computer. After searching a lot, I found that the HD HOMERUN VIEW app on android allows me to watch these channels (which is most of the channels worth watching). The Nexus Player utilizes this app and now I can watch all my channels with this on my big screen. Just thought I'd throw this in for those considering buying a Nexus Player.
Rektifying said:
Hello,
I am interested in getting a Nexus Player. I love all of the customizations that can be done with it. I especially like the fact that you can install an internet browser and use a Logitech K400 with it. (with some mods and adapters I know) Only thing I am wondering is if this fall there will be a Gen 2 released along side the new Nexus 5 and 6? I would hate to buy one now and two months later, boom heres gen 2. Anyone have any input on this?
Also, I like the Forge TV but i don't believe it is nearly as customizable as the Nexus is it?
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Hell no
I spent about 80$ on mine and it was completely worthless. The app ecosystem is almost dead, the user interface is limited, no okay google all the time, nothing special at all. The only thing you can do is stream limited media. Just get a chromecast.
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I spent about 80$ on mine and it was completely worthless. The app ecosystem is almost dead, the user interface is limited, no okay google all the time, nothing special at all. The only thing you can do is stream limited media. Just get a chromecast.
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you must not know what kodi is. do some googling.
I have a variety of streaming devices. But family acceptance is important. So Roku connected directly to the TV which is great for family. The Nexus Player rooted with custom ROM. Tvmb is the main application. It is connected to the home theater. For movies and live TV it is quite useful. But not as easy to use. So mostly I set it up.
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I have both a Nexus Player and Forge TV. If you use Netflix, don't buy the Forge because after months it still doesn't have Netflix. Nexus Player works great. Hopefully one day the Forge TV will get Netflix because I would rather use it with its built in Ethernet port.
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There is a way with a custom ROM to use the USB port as an Ethernet connection with the Nexus Player.
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[Deal Alert] Get A Nexus Player For Under $50 On Groupon (Down From $99.99)
A good deal. Worth it .
So I ended up buying a Nexus player for my 32" 1080P TV in my bedroom. I still have my Shield on my 4K in the living room, loving that! Just waiting for the new nexus phones to release so I can replace my iPhone, then I will be done with Apple. (I had an Apple TV that I sold and I currently have an iPhone 6 which is going to be replaced with the New Nexus 5 upon release)
Anyways, I loved the Nexus Player at first! I think it is pretty awesome! One issue, it will NOT wake from sleep. I tried everything! Clearing cache, factory reset after update. Anyone running CM12.1 on their Nexus player? How is that and will it fix sleep issue? Thanks!
Google has the factory images on their website. On my phone right now or I'd posta link. It's pretty easy though does everything for you. If that doesn't fix it then you've got a bad device and should exchange it.
Rektifying said:
So I ended up buying a Nexus player for my 32" 1080P TV in my bedroom. I still have my Shield on my 4K in the living room, loving that! Just waiting for the new nexus phones to release so I can replace my iPhone, then I will be done with Apple. (I had an Apple TV that I sold and I currently have an iPhone 6 which is going to be replaced with the New Nexus 5 upon release)
Anyways, I loved the Nexus Player at first! I think it is pretty awesome! One issue, it will NOT wake from sleep. I tried everything! Clearing cache, factory reset after update. Anyone running CM12.1 on their Nexus player? How is that and will it fix sleep issue? Thanks!
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Glad you're enjoying your NP. I'm not sure if it is the CM12.1 ROM or not, but on the Android M Preview build I get a delay wake from sleep. The device takes a tad longer than the original firmware. Try reverting back to stock or using the Android M Preview build.
These are seeing pretty good price drops in the States. Walmart cleared these out for $39.99. Best Buy and others have them for $49.99.
I have Roku 1, 2, 3, Fire Stick, Ouya, Chromecast, RaspPi 2, Android PC Sticks, etc. The Ouya is my main gaming unit. But I like to buy these for traveling and toying with. Having the wife and kid used to the Rokus, I can see them easily picking this up and working with it.
If you are seriously looking for a TV Streamer box, you may want to wait. The Roku 4 and the new Nexus TV is coming out soon (October). The Roku has always been my fav for home use. It is simple and doesn't bombard you with Amazon or Google ads. It just works. The Nexus TV is pretty good too, although I plan to use it for personal uses such as emulation and a traveling companion.
I think for $50, it is awesome. Plus it is getting Android Marshmallow once the new one hits, so they will effectively run the same. The new one will just have a longer life. So it might be worth spending $99 on the new one and having a few more years of life on it.
I ended up returning my Nexus Player. I paid $69.99 +tax at Best Buy. About a week later I seen it at Walmart for $39.99. I did not re-purchase it yet though! The price drop tells me that a new one is on the way. So I am going to wait for the Nexus event on Tuesday (9/29) before I do anything. If there is a new one announced, I would guess that it would only receive a performance boost and 4k Support. If that is the case, I will just re-purchase the one I had. I only need it for the bedroom, and I do not see myself buying a 4K for my bedroom for a very long time, if ever.
I did unroot, lock the bootloader, and factory reset before I returned though. I'm sure they just threw it back on the shelf as an open box item.
I'm having a hard time confirming if it will, some sites say tablets only. I installed it from my browser as it appears the app is officially supported. I'm guessing there will be some Kodi options if not.
I doubt it will. It didn't have the option to stream during playoffs either.
Well, the latest update (feb 4th) seems to mention live streaming of superbowl and on cbs superbowl website they do mention AndroidTV as one of the devices for streaming the game live. I guess we'll see. I don't have any links in the app for live streaming - not sure if it will just appear or how it will work.
It will be live from the Amazon Fire TV and Fire TV Stick and is advertised heavily there with the CBS Sports app.
Yes, I know that the Amazon devices are not Google TV, but they do run customized Android and not tablets or phones, so they show promise for the Super Bowl to play live on the Nexus Player, although I am concerned that there are no ads promoting it.
There is absolutely no mention of superbowl inside the nexus player app. No link. Just the regular nfl and other sports video clips. I'm hoping it somehow incorporates a link at the time of the kickoff... but I have doubts.
I mean they do specifically mention AndroidTV on CBS's website... but there is no indication of it from inside the app itself.
The pregame show is live on the app! Yeeei So there's hope for the game as well. The link appeared at 2 pm ET inside the app.