I pre ordered a nexus 7 but now thinking of cancelling - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

I ordered it mostly just because jellybean looks so awesome i had to have it. But now that the benchmarks have been released along with the full specs, im actually now somewhat convinced it is inferior to my ics running n7000, or at the least equal. I ran the gl 2.1 benchmark that anandtech ran and my stock (not overclocked ) note actually scored higher in all 4 benchmarks than the "12 core" tegra 3. So besides battery life and jellybean, im pretty meh at this point. Anyone else have similar feelings? Or am i really missing something?
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For the price point; the Nexus 7 is a nice investment. The specs are solid. If you have disposable income it's hard not to throw $200 at the 7 and at the very least make it a part of your coffee table.
I'm in the boat that I will upgrade my Note to the Note 2 as no doubt the spec leap will be much bigger than the Nexus 7.

Dude the price is low for that 7"
So it worth it x2 each dollar, if you r looking an upgrade just wait the note 2 or other device
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I'm with you in debating on it OP.
I've yet to put an order in as the Note 2 looks rather promising, however watching media on the 7" display would be lovely, and Tegra 3 aught to have enough power to handle S/W decoding of 10bit 720p, but I've also read that the S3 seems to handle it fine, and if the Note 2 will be a 'larger S3' then I might as well save the money and wait.
It's a tough decision, since it's realistically the best 7" tablet to come out yet.

LxMxFxD said:
I ordered it mostly just because jellybean looks so awesome i had to have it. But now that the benchmarks have been released along with the full specs, im actually now somewhat convinced it is inferior to my ics running n7000, or at the least equal. I ran the gl 2.1 benchmark that anandtech ran and my stock (not overclocked ) note actually scored higher in all 4 benchmarks than the "12 core" tegra 3. So besides battery life and jellybean, im pretty meh at this point. Anyone else have similar feelings? Or am i really missing something?
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Haha benchmarks, it'll handle whatever you throw at it and with custom roms on it will be even better...stop worrying about benchmarks they really don't mean **** on phones and tablets.
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Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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nexus 7 = cheap!
haha, for $209, I can use it as my cutting board while I look at videos on how to cook.
or even use it for the bathroom!
or have the kids use it as a frisbee.
it's not banned here. and to get vanilla jelly bean without buying a nexus phone, that's cheap. can't wait!

ttkyy said:
Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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Apparently you can't read, he's talking about the nexus 7 TABLET, keep thinking you know what your talking about.
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Can't wait for my nexus 7 tablet

What is the point of buying it if you are basing that decision on purely benchmarks and OS version?
Are you actually going to make use of the extra screen space compared to the note?
If yes buy it, if not dont, simple

The Nexus 7" looks amazing for the price. The only downside is the lack of SD card slot.
I'm not sure if they left it out for cost reasons or to avoid annoying the other manufacturers.
I won't personally be getting one as I'm holding off buying a tablet until Win 8. You just know someone will bring out a device that dual boots in to win8 and android.

About a month ago I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for my Fiance as she wanted something like a kindle but that did a bit more. 16 Gb was £200 if the Nexus Tab has been out for £150 with better spec and newer OS I would have thought that was a great buy if you want a 7" tab.
I dont get this comparing tabs and phones. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruits but not the same thing.
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About a month ago I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for my Fiance as she wanted something like a kindle but that did a bit more. 16 Gb was £200 if the Nexus Tab has been out for £150 with better spec and newer OS I would have thought that was a great buy if you want a 7" tab.
I dont get this comparing tabs and phones. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruits but not the same thing.
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Except that the galaxy note is a phablet, a hybrid device. Thus the issue here.
To the person who said I only used benchmarks, not exactly. I was just saying that the 1.4ghz dualcore exynos with mali400 seems to still be a top dog and even beats/equals the "12core" tegra 3. Pretty impressive.
I do know the nexus 7 is a great device for $200. It doesn't have everything a galaxy note has like mhl, 5ghz wifi or sdslot but in terms of raw performance, screen resolution the $249 version is equal to my 16gb GT-N7000. No doubt it is an impressive device for the price. I found a deal on mine at Jr.com for $222 shipped 16GB version but that pre-order quickly sold out.
Even still I hesitate. It will probably only be a couple of months before the devs make a good port of jellybean for our note. Having a pure google device however does appeal to me. I'm still torn. Luckily it wont ship for another 10 days so I have all that time to decide.

ttkyy said:
Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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That is the Galaxy Nexus phone, not the Nexus 7 tablet. Personally, the Galaxy Note eliminates the need of a tablet for me.

It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.

If its any help i currently take my note with me everywherr daily. I use my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for browsing, gaming and watching movies (in bed). I use the Galaxy Tab 2 for reading and general messing about.
I admit 1 person doesnt need all 3 in their life but I do prefer web browsing at home on either of the tabs as I find it better with the bigger screens and the same for reading and movie watching whilst at home.
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It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.
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There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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sway40 said:
There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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Good thing Chameleon is coming out soon then ;-)
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sway40 said:
There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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That's not true. In another thread I read someone has already hacked the Nexus 7 to give it a tablet ui.

Akiainavas said:
It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.
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The Note is also a phone and has 3G... and 2 good cameras.
The Nexus 7 is a nice tablet (low end price with good specs) but it cant be the only device to take, a good companion to a phone maybe.

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[Q] Should i get the Tab 7.7....or wait for the nexus tablet?

I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?
Well the GPS is topnoch, I havent had any problems with celldata or wifi, overall HC
isent that bad. In all I got to say the hardware kicks ass on stock HC and if ICS is an improvement thats a big extra!
Yup I like the 7.7, nice unit.
the nexus tablet is likely to be in the 200-250 range, while the 7.7 is around 500...the biggest reason to get the 7.7 is the super amoled plus screen. if you don't care about the screen quality, i would go with the google tablet.
I'm on the fence as well. Heard rumors that the Nexus won't have 3G. I'll gladly get a Galaxy Tab then.
Can't tell for sure until the Nexus is officially unveiled.
I'd wait.
Even of the nexus hasn't got 3g what it will do is quickly drive down android tablet costs. If Google push a nexus device (nexus phones are pushed as being the pinnacle of Android design) for 200 then Samsung and everyone else will have difficulty keeping a 100%+ premium over it.
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I would wait for Android tablets to catch up with the iPad3 dpi before buying, which I hope will begin to happen with the next generation of premium Android tablets.
MdSaif said:
I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?
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I am married to SAMOLED+, a wacom digitizer, and screen casting capabilities. So far the only device to satisfy all three has been the samsung galaxy note. But this screen is just SO much larger, it was worth the extra real estate. This is the first really operable digital sketchpad, i'd say over the ipad(screen quality) and the gNote(size). It is imperfect only in thst it lacks a wacom digitizer in my opinion.
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Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol
Ive thought about the micro sd and don't see it as an issue as long as there is an sd card/usb host adapter, then on long journeys we can still have movies etc on that
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What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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billytkid said:
Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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How is the 7.7 a "dead platform"? There will be an ICS update some time this summer, and the hardware will be superior to the Nexus in most ways.
adinis78 said:
What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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At a supposed price of $200 i doubt it will be a superior item, i understand the Nexus is a top line (Nexus phones) i dont see at this price what it can try and compete with. The Kindle? Maybe. The Ipad, not in a million years.
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The leaked specs for the Nexus 7 look decent enough and handily seem to wipe the floor with the kindle fire. I doubt i'll just give up this beautiful 7.7 without evaluating things anyways. And who mentioned an iPad? I could give 2 ****es about the iPad ;p
For those interested or wanting a nexus tablet read this:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3120884/google-nexus-7-first-image-leak
All it is, is a Kindle and Nook competitor. I'll stick with my 7.7 and i would recommed getting 7.7 (international vertion 3g+wifi)
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Well now that the specs are out, I'm still happy with my last week purchase of the GT 7.7. I can increase storage and have a better screen. Only outspecced by BT 4 on the Nexus 7, if it has BT 4.
Plus I have to say comparing the Exynos of the GT 7.7 to the Tegra3 of the Transformer Prime, it feels snappier than the Prime, and that is on 3.2 HC! Cant wait for ICS (or hopefully much rather JB!) on it.
Haven't tried gaming on th GT 7.7 though.
Maybe it is just in the videos I've seen but does the screen rotate to landscape mode or is it stuck in portrait?
Here's my take on the two tablets.
1. Memory
I think the lack of micro SD slot on the Nexus is a big disadvantage compared to the Sammy 7.7. You can pick up 64gb micro SD cards now for $60-80. Depending on your main uses, 16gb (or worse still 8gb) can be very limiting if you throw on some music and some 720p videos, let alone games.
I have the HDMI dongle for the Sammy and can output 1080p to a TV which is great when traveling.
2. Camera
The Nexus also appears to miss out on a rear-facing camera (not a big deal imo but another point of difference).
3. Battery
Samsung battery appears to be almost 18% bigger (5100mah v 4325mah).
4. Form factor
The form factor of the Nexus would seem to be not quite as slick as the 7.7:
Nexus 7: 198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm
Samsung 7.7: 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm
Weight appears to be same (or thereabouts).
With a smaller screen and less features, I would have thought that the Nexus could have been a bit trimmer.
5. Software
On the other hand we probably won't see Jelly Bean on the Samsung for another year, if at all.
Jelly Bean supposedly has Project Butter enhancements to make the OS smoother and slicker, however given the performance of the S2 on ICS I think I'd be relatively happy with ICS on the 7.7.
Overall I don't really see the need for a quad core processor when the dual core is still perfectly capable. I'm not prepared to compromise on the above factors for the processor alone, the benefits of which are debatable given how much better the Exynos architecture seems to be.
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I forgot to add that whilst I wouldn't give up my 7.7, the introduction of the Nexus 7 can only be a good thing as it will raise awareness of Android tablets and lower the barrier to entry, ie. cost, effectively bringing Android to the masses by a respected vendor.
More competition = better products.
Gilbot said:
I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol
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None Nexus device have SD card slot yet...
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Is the tab 10.1 still a good choice today?

Hello,
How are you?
So, I'm thinking about buying a tablet.
My main goal is to have a biggest, more comfortable device for web browsing to complement my galaxy nexus.
I was thinking about a nexus 7, but being too close on size to my nexus, made me consider a 10 inch model.
I liked the fact that the nexus 7 is updated by Google and runs stock android, but there seems to be a good community of support for Samsung tabs, and with ROMs like cm9 and cm10, that might not be the deal breaker.
I also looked at the Acer a700, because of its screen. The high res is really appealing, but the price is around 400.
I can get a sweet deal on a tab 10.1, for 200 Euros. So, is it a good bet today?
Thanks.
Cheers
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I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
10.1 inch is good for broswe internet go ahead and get ur tab
aelsharawi said:
I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
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The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
Cheers
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gdourado said:
The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
Cheers
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I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
johnqevil said:
I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is really helpful.
can you tell me your opinion about the difference in PPI from both models, since they both have the same resolution, but the nexus is smaller?
Also, how is the tab for typing with the thumbs in portrait mode?
Cheers
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A modded 10.1 with performance tweaks is a joy to use. Battery life is sick @ 7000mah too. I have one for myself and one for the wife and they're wonderful. The kernel I'm running is OC'd to 1.4GHz and GPU @ 400 so while it's still not a match for newer devices, 3d games are still running nicely. A build.prop tweak for increasing buffer size will make web browsing even more enjoyable and most custom roms account for that, I've found.
In portrait mode the tab is still a bit wide...if you have long thumbs you shouldn't have any issues. If you were cursed with bitty digits stick with landscape and key the way you normally would.
I don't know anything about the Tegra 3 devices but I can tell you about my experience with the GT7500 . The main reason I got it was for Web browsing and watching video content on my daily commute. I really like using using this device and I may be imagining it but the display seems crisper since ICS updated. If you can get one really cheap I say buy it
I think it is
I think it is an option, is fast, convenient and runs android. The only think i guess should be reconsidered, is the price since with the introduction of the Kindle Fire HD, its price is now prohibitive.
If you can get it for under 250, I would think so. If you're a spec freak, you might prefer a quad core but you'll pay a lot more for a ten incher.
It depends on what you plan on doing on the tablet.
Yes, I can get it under 250 and I just plan on using it for web browsing, tapatalk, some note taking, videos... no gaming. Just maybe the occasional angry birds type of game.
Cheers
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No. There are better and cheaper options.
ASUS is a better choice..bang for the buck.
Google Nexus is pretty sweet also.
I own these Samsung Galaxy tabs gentlemen...this is an unbiased opinion.
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İn my opinion,in this year (Q4 2012) Galaxy tab 10.1 is still nice tablet.but in 2013 GTab 10.1 become old.my advice is you should not take it.wait 2013 :good:
Hello.
I know it is not state of the art, but all I want is a tablet to web browse on the couch or on the coffee shop.
I am also thinking about an original Motorola xoom. It is almost the same specs as the tab 10.1, but it runs stock android without the need for custom ROMs.
If I get any of the two cheap enough, maybe I could resell them in a couple of months and then pick a better 2013 tablet without much loss.
And until then I could have a nice tablet to browse...
Thoughts?
Does a 1920x1200 screen make a huge difference in browsing experience? Is it worth twice the money?
Cheers! And thanks
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In my opinion the only good thing ever to come from Motorola was their MC68000 CPU chip.
And that is very ancient computer history..
Motorola products do not have good track records.
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Argos have been knocking them out at "half price" in the UK. Mainly 3G models left for home delivery. Likely to be as rare as hens teeth in store. I've ordered a 16GB 3G model for £250 (it's being delivered tomorrow ). Seems like good value to me.
Linky here
Check in store stock at iCheckStock
So, how is the state of CM10 development for the tab 10.1?
Already with project butter and stable?
Cheers
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I can tell you that prior to the ICS update, I was very unhappy with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. It was frustratingly slow, and using it was not a pleasant experience. Then I bought a Nexus 7 and totally fell in love with it. I did end up tweaking it with Nova launcher, but did not root it. After the ICS update I still wasn't happy with the performance of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Then I added Nova launcher and the same tweaks as for the Nexus 7. Did not root the Galaxy tablet either. And the performance seems to have improved so I am no longer complaining. However, I have to say that I still rarely use the 10" tablet. For me the 7" form factor and the higher pixel density works better. Or the weight. The 10" tablet never leaves the house, and rarely leaves the bedroom. The 7" tablet goes everywhere. I would recommend giving some thought to what size works for you best. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. The 10" tablet should be better at note taking. I've seen lots of comments that the 10" should be better for videos and web browsing, but that hasn't been my experience. The Nexus 7 seems to have more apps available for it. For example, Flipboard is available for the Nexus 7, but not for the Galaxy tab. (It works fine on the Galaxy tablet, you just can't get the apk from the Google Play store.) If I had $250 to spend and did not have either tablet, I would either buy the Nexus 7, or save up for a better 10" tablet. I don't think the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 is worth $250, not when you can get a tablet that works better for $199.
For the usage you describe either the galaxy tab 10.1 or the xyboard would suffice (the later having microSD expandability). If the Asus Transformer TF300 is in the same price range the it is worthy of a look too (tegra 3), though I'm not sure what the status of development is for that device.
It has taken a long time for development to get to the point that it has for the galaxy tab 10.1 due to how long Samsung decided to wait to release ICS. CM9 development is far along with CM10 still needing work. There are some great devs here as in other device forums.
As for screen resolution one would expect that despite the color accuracy issues of the nexus 7's screen the higher pixel density of that panel would render text better and in my comparison between the two (I own both) that is the case so I would expect no different from a 1080p screen on a 10-inch form factor. That said the 10.1 does have a very nice panel and it's adequate for the use you describe.
Its great that you're doing the research so that you enter into your purchase eyes wide open. Know that you're buying into an aging platform and make sure you can live with the tradeoffs that come with that in order to get the lower price you're looking for.
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I thank you for your insights!
There are really helpful info here!
In regard to the nexus 7, it is a device that is also on my mind. Mainly because as I said, I love my nexus phone and the whole nexus experience of stock android and updates from Google.
Does who own both, how is the web browsing on the 7? Does the higher PPI makes up for the smaller screen?
How is using nexus 7 vs a smartphone like the galaxy nexus? Very different? Or is it a close experience?
Cheers and thanks!
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Note 2 to Nexus 4?

I really want to get the Nexus 4 but I just got the Note 2. Wondering if its work the move from Note 2 to Nexus 4.
Yes I live the pure Android experience, but I want to know what you guys think in all honest. Aside from the pure Android exoerienxe, would you do it if you were me.
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To each their own. No one can tell you which one you'll like better. If you like the Note 2, stick with it, you already have it
If you like a screen this big, there is no reason to switch to a smaller one. If the Note II is too big for you, you could switch. Aside from that, I think nobody can really help you with that decision. Getting the pure stock experience should be easily achievable with custom ASOP roms.
Simply put, Keep the Beast that is... The Note 2, I too am a hard-core purist when it comes to Android but, watching videos like the following leave me awestruck and wonder why I own 4 laptops, and 2 desktops!?
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-sm...e-of-with-a-galaxy-note-ii-in-the-front-seat/
Check the Video in that Link... Legend... Wait for it... You get the point
ALSO, The immense support and love developers put into Samsung Products, other then Google-affiliated. There will never be a shortage of roms or customizations for the Note 2. For reference, my daily phone is a Atrix HD Maxx... I'd be lucky to even see an official JB Rom. I do own the wonderful G. Nexus, aswell as hordes of other phones... anyways...
ALSO, Resale value on the Note 2 will always trump most phones, like buying a Lamborghini or Bugatti...
Hope all of this helps, my choice-riddled friend
Do you like the 5.5" screen? Do you need it? Or would you prefer something a tad bit smaller? Do you need/use the stylus? How about TouchWiz? Is it fulfilling your needs?
Im in the same boat
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Apples and oranges - look at the huge difference in price.
I already have the Note 2 + 64gb microSD - and will get the Nexus 4 as a secondary phone, not as a replacement.
I have the Note 2, but it's going back. Can't justify the £510 price-tag.
Saying that, the device is fantastic.
...Dary.
That dock man, that dock.
I guess I will only be buying one Nexus 4 for the wifey only, she was pretty excited for us to have the same phones, but that dock.
Thank you all for the replies.
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Why would you want to swap? The Note 2 is superior in most things and it doesn't use Pentile like the GS3 so it even has a really good screen, though the GS3's is really nice anyways. I mean the 5.5" screen is so lovely, I wouldn't be able to go back to the screen of the Nexus, remember it's more like 4.4" or whatever with that permanent bar there, it even exists in full screen apps.
The only superior thing I see in the Nexus 4 is the GPU but tbh in everyday use you wont notice it and games aren't even good enough to push the Mali 400 in the GN2 yet.
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...Dary.
That dock man, that dock.
I guess I will only be buying one Nexus 4 for the wifey only, she was pretty excited for us to have the same phones, but that dock.
Thank you all for the replies.
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Absolutely amazing, that dock is life changing at minimum!
Happy I could pull you in the right direction!

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So I recently had and Acer Iconia A100 die and need to replace it. Due to budget constraints I'm choosing between the Galaxy Tab 2 and the Nexus 7.
I'm familiar with the spec differences but I can't pull the trigger on one or the other. Any N7 users want to convince me? Let me know your thoughts... positive and negative...
oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is
Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.
Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.
ahandlen003 said:
Hes is right. Get the galaxy tab.
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Yet you sold yours, and now have an N7?
Hreidmar said:
Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.
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2 votes for lag on the GT2... thank you
PulseDroid said:
Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.
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Why do you say that? I've posted in both forums to try to get input from users of both. Is there anything you don't like about the N7?
superalphajellybean said:
oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is
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very helpful. Thank you
I only have some experience with playing with the Tab 2 WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
Where the Tab 2 win is the 3G version can make direct phone calls which the Nexus 7 3G can't, but it also cost more than the Nexus 7 3G. Of course, you already know it have microSD slot, back camera, and you can get an HDMI adapter, which is overpriced imo ($40) and will add to the cost of the tablet. The Nexus 7 doesn't have any form of HDMI out which sucks.
The most important factor for me is the software, and what follows might be a cliche thing you will hear in a Nexus forum. With a Nexus device you will get latest Android updates from Google and a larger developing community. As for the Tab 2, Samsung said 4.2.2 will be the last update and even with custom roms there aren't a lot of developers working on it. Despite what I said above, if the Nexus 7 only had the Tab 2 specs, and vice versa, I would still get the Nexus 7 because the benefits of AOSP, Google updates and many custom rom developers which makes a big difference in long term value.
You can also look at the Asus Memo Pad 10 if you don't mind going with a 10" tablet which is a good budget tablet. The text isn't sharp in 720p resolution on a 10" screen. However it has lots good benefits the Nexus 7 doesn't have, such as dedicated microHDMI out, USB OTG out of the box (no root needed), microSD slot, back camera, and Tegra3 chip as well. Also unlike the Transformer tablets, it have standard microUSB port. I had to return it because the digitizer on my unit went haywire and I didn't know how soon it will get CyanogenMod support.
eksasol said:
I only have some experience with playing with the WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
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Thanks very much for that, pretty much covers it all.
I'm really not worried about the lack of an SD card on the N7, I think I can live on 16GB. The lack of a rear camera worries me a little but I think the performance and Android support are winning me over.
Thanks again
N7 is still best value currently.
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The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.
ynrozturk said:
The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.
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Lol. He just needed our opinion on which device is better.
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Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Which tablet?
I have an Nexus 7, and i shouldn't know why it is bad. It's a fast and easy to use tablet. Very smooth. It's cheaper than the galaxy tab. But galaxy tab is not bad.... It depends on what you are planning to do with it.
1eyedmonster said:
Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Funny you should say that.
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Walmart no name brand tablet!
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Buy a gameboy.
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You get what you pay for ..
IF it where not from you saying you have a very limited budget i would say with no doubt. Get a Galaxy Note . I have the nexus 7 and Note 10.1 . when im home The Nexus sits on its charger. When im out it goes with me because it fits in my purse. But lately i have been keeping the note under my arm when i go out. I love the Multi window Cascade/ Dual screen mode. You can Run up to 20 apps at one time. Most do not suspend while having another app in action such as hand writing a note on the wacom digitize r . For school or real work productivity . Price verses performance . There is not a tablet on the planet better then the Note.
Now the nexus 7 is the fastest slim sleek device for on the go use. I could never mount my note to the dash to use as a gps. It will NOT fit in my purse It uses a propritary charging port
My Conclusion is a Note 8 might be the best of both worlds. I just cant see spending the 400.00 for one when i have a awesome 7 inch Nexus 7 and a mind blowing Productive Galaxy note 10.1 ..
Maybe think about how you will pack it around .. Portability goes a very long way ..
I just sold my 8gb GT2 7" and I have a 16gb and 32gb N7. I wanted to like the Samsung more, as I usually enjoy their products and don't find Touchwiz as horrible as everyone says... BUT, the GT2 7" had to be the worst tablet I've ever used from a lag perspective. I don't know if it effects all sizes or just the 8gb but you cannot escape it. The stock rom is horribly slow and the various popular roms only help a bit. It reminded me of my old Android phones from 3 or 4 years ago in that you had to reboot it daily as it would slow down over time. My OG Samsung GTP7510 10" i/o tab is faster and a year older.
The N7 was had zero of these issues. Now saying that, the N7 has some cosmetic and power on issues that continually plague many people including me. But, when it's working it's a better tablet.
If you have the money buy a Note 8.0
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I really wanna get the transformer pad infinity. But I still love my N7!
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Wait for N5 or get S4

I love my N4, but the S4 definitely shows up with some tempting features. Should I wait for the N5?
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You need to make that decision for yourself. I personally am never leaving nexus because I can't stand the crap HTC and at&t put me through, and updates from carriers are extremely slow and unlocking your boot loader voids your warranty, etc. I'm done with it. I can tolerate no LTE and slightly older hardware if it means being the top dog and getting catered to by Google.
In the end, only you can make the choice. There are pros and cons for each device
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A typical S3, S4 shopper doesn't know what and Android is, they just buy what they are told to be the other phone that is not an Iphone, the words "operation system" makes them bertstare at you, do you want to be associated with them?
At this point in the game, no matter how powerful phones will get, the N4's hardware will be good for years, we're overkilling our needs currently in my opinion.
It may be behind in synthetic benchmarks and will get left in the dust from now on but seriously, a quad core krait, Adreno 320, and 2GB of RAM? It'll be fine for a while.
Remember, most apps and even probably most games only use/need a basic dual core and a gig of RAM for functioning.
Imo, if you're into AMOLED, then go for the S4. I love Nexus devices, I love theming for them and what not. S3 didn't really wowed me much but the S4 managed to do so, I used it yesterday and I fell for it! Mainly because I'm very much into AMOLED and I love that crisp 1080p display.
If you asked us whether to jump off the bridge or not and we told you yes do it, would have you done it?
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Personally, I'd go back to a dumb phone before buying a non-nexus. I will be sticking with my n4 until the 6th generation Nexus phone comes out though.
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jhotmann said:
Personally, I'd go back to a dumb phone before buying a non-nexus. I will be sticking with my n4 until the 6th generation Nexus phone comes out though.
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My thoughts exactly. I'll be sticking with this n4 until the dubbed "nexus 5" is released. The. Current n4 to the new n4 is essentially an HTC one X to an HTC One X+.
Its not a major upgrade, but its there for people that need to upgrade.. Or just want to
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Saw a review of the n4 vs the s4. Obviously didn't pass the s4 in processing power . but they pointed out that most apps don't even take advantage of the speed that the n4 possess. Hardware wasn't that much different. Yes the s4 will have a few magical features like eye scrolling, whoop de do! But the plastic cheap body is still there.
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I don't know why anyone would get s Samsung with their excessive bloat and Gingerbread ui
Im sticking with nexus phones once i went nexus i cant see myself going back to a galaxy phone
NEXUS⁴
Stick with N4 and wait for N5, forget about Samsung and the galaxy s3s I meant galaxy s4..
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I will probably stick with the N4 at least until the N6 is released. Our device will not be slow anytime soon, and I don't think in half a year there would be apps our device can't run smoothly.
I can't stand amoled.
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Woohoo
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Programs are getting more lightweight and I/O's are getting the same way and more efficient. N4 will crush for a few more years
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I can't stand amoled.
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I've owned 3 devices with SAMOLED and all of them have had issues. My SGS died and went green, My SGS II would go orange/Yellow at medium brightness and the GNexus had a slight blue tint. Switched to the N4 and love the screen.
My N4 will be with me for a long time yet. Looks amazing up against more plasticy phones
look at the HTC one before looking at the S4, im getting the One myself tonight.
I'm going to have to agree with most replies posted already. I'm sticking with the Nexus 4 for another year, then maybe getting a Nexus 6 (or whatever that next Nexus device will be called). The phone is so insanely cheap, yet packs the latest and greatest hardware. It's perfect. Yeah, the newer phones coming out like the S4 will have slightly better hardware, but it's been 6 months since the Nexus 4 got released. That happens with every cell phone in the history of cell phones. Heck, the Nexus 5 will probably have better hardware than the S4 when it finally comes out.
I guess what I'm trying to say OP, is make that decision for yourself. All phones have their pros and cons. If I were in your shoes, I would try to wait for the N5, but I can see the appeal of getting the S4. It's a darn-good phone, and you don't have to wait for it to be released. Actually, I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I ended up getting the Nexus 4 because it's still a solid phone, and I don't have to wait for the Nexus 5 to come out, plus I can get it off contract for close to the price I'd have to pay for the S4 on-contract. There are multiple things you have to consider when making that decision. Some things that helped me make my decision and will help you makes yours is some comparison articles. Google something like "Nexus 4 vs Galaxy S4". The article will be comparing the Nexus 4 instead of the Nexus 5, but it will still be helpful because they usually touch on things like pure Android vs company-customized Android and the pros and cons of each, among other important things.
Actually, depending on how time-sensitive your decision is, I would wait until Google's I/O event to see if they will be revealing a newer version of the N4, or maybe teasing the specs of the N5. That should help your decision.
For me software plays a big part and with a nexus device we will see 4.3 soon, and key lime pie after that. The sgs4 and others will still be on older software.
Sure the Samsung has a better camera, expendable storage, removable battery if those things are important too you then purchase the Samsung. For me 16gb is enough for my needs, the battery lasts me a day without having to recharge, and the camera takes ok shots I can live with that until the next nexus.
Decide what you need out of a phone, only you can decide that, handle the Samsung and see how you feel with it.
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