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Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.
According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)
I hope, we won't have to wait that long...
Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.
I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...
i don't like to wait.
i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.
me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon...
But anyway v will get it wont v.
Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.
I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
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Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.
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You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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^This
Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
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I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.
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Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?
I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.
Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).
Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.
I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
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Q2 2012? F**k me...
What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?
I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.
It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.
ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".
From SamMobile.com:
"Samsung has announced that both the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Tab can handle the upgrade to Android 4.0 when looking purely at speed of the device.
However the upgrade will not arrive on these devices simply because certain hardware features will not function.
The quantity of RAM and ROM in this is a big factor.
Some of the Touhwizz functions Samsung uses will not work when combined with Android 4.0 and one of these devices."
http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/22/official-no-android-4-0-for-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab/
Let the discussions begin!
I wasn't really expecting ICS :/ I guess this just makes it official that we won't get it.
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So take off touchwiz samfail!
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Everything they just listed as an issue why it can't get the upgrade is a load of ****.
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yup.. i'm running an early alpha of a CM9 based ICS on my Tab and it runs fine for not having hardware acceleration etc. So I know the same applies for the Epic. Sad that Samsuck just doesn't feel like putting the effort into supporting their devices.. Oh well, hooray capitalism! =P
So, here is their source for the story:
http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/2043
It's in Korean, and reading it through google translate of babelfish is good for a chuckle.
As I interpret it, they say that the Nexus S works because it requires no carrier customization , Touchwiz or region specific features.
Also, from the babel fish translation:
"The soluble memory dosage is insufficient and will provide a satisfied use environment
There is not a possibility.
This considers the hardware evening sunlight, use environment of optimum to the customers provision
Description below being a selection which is inevitable for to understand, wishes."
I think that may mean the phone is near end of life (hardware evening sunlight)
and customers wouldn't like how ICS runs on this hardware anyway.
Oh well, we'll see how CM9 runs.
I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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Seems fair...
It's really quite sad- Samsung seems to *MAKE* good hardware, they just have a piss-poor software development team.
phdeez said:
Seems fair...
It's really quite sad- Samsung seems to *MAKE* good hardware, they just have a piss-poor software development team.
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yes.. watch in six months when jelly bean come out.. sgs2 nor galaxy tabs will get it because of some bs with hardware/software(TW).. they gonna want us to upgrade to the sgs3 or galaxy tabs v2
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398010,00.asp
pcmag confirms.
MTD roms.........the alternative future?
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MTD roms.........the alternative future?
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Maybe, if there is an ICS port in the next 6 months that's smooth and fully functional I'd go there. But I'm moving on to LTE asap.
Just means no "official" ICS, I'm sure devs will have something for it. I would imagine that most of the people that know what they're missing will be on to new phones by then anyway.
Hopefully they can pull off cm9 for the gs series.
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Samsung just keeps on giving!
This is just Samsung being downright LAZY. Heck the Nexus S is getting ICS from them right? And that is most definitely a Galaxy S phone. They just don't want to be bothered to support the Galaxy S line as a whole anymore clearly.
If we didn't have to worry about touchwiz... it would be here by now... why do we need it when the UI of ICS is far superior. At the very least release the driver source files so that devs can do it for you... Samsung needs to be more open to developers in that regard.
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I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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+1 to this. I skipped the Galaxy Tabs for the same reason...well, that and the fact that they left out micro SD!
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+1 to this. I skipped the Galaxy Tabs for the same reason...well, that and the fact that they left out micro SD!
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True. And hdmi....comes in handy over friends houses..
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Keep in mind that this isn't just Samsung's pickiness about having their TW branding. This is also a product of carrier demands. Carriers do NOT like (for the most part) unbranded, undifferentiated phones, and they especially don't like phones that aren't preloaded with software that represents services they provide.
Frankly, I was always convinced that arrangements such as VZN's with the NFL required them to have the app on all relevant phones. The NFL is anal like that.
IOW, it's a LOT of different factors coming together keeping ICS off of Galaxy S phones, many of which are problems with how the smartphone industry itself has come to work, and targeting one player while ignoring the bigger picture--though it sure makes life easier for journalists and bloggers--cheapens the whole conversation.
The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ime-pie-release-date-news-and-rumours-1091500
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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That's awesome. You should totally make a thread about it....
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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i feel a hint of "sarcasm" in what you wrote!
LOL
The nexus S is unlikely to get the next major version so this thread serves no purpose but to disappoint many people.
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The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
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I'd love to see the responsiveness of wp7. I tried my friends Samsung Omnia phone with WP7 and I was impressed. It was so fast and smooth. However I wouldn't use WP7 because I can't mod it
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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Will do! :highfive:
Even if nexus s isn't supported it will be by the community here on xda plus I'm betting most of us are on two year contracts (well I am anyway) and waiting to upgrade to the newest nexus when it comes out (soon)
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Who knows?! A Nexus is a Nexus after all.
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I hope google to continue support future version of android for nexus s. Most new devices are dual core or quad cores, with > 1G ram.. I dont think the new androids should only target for a high ended hardware spec. The NS is still a good "low end" demo device.
Its not really a good low end device spec wise anymore either.
These mobile devices are on what I think Anand refers to as hyper Moore's law. Which basically means the improvements on the mobile SoC are taking place a really rapid rate at this time. The difference between what a current gen chip and a two year old chip can do is huge
We are just now approaching the point where the chips are truly getting really powerful and aren't going to need to be leapfrogged by the next chip 6 months down the road. Example is the s4 pro and the next gen arm15 cores. Those chips are so powerful that they will be able to cut it for years no problem. Just how desktops have been for a couple of years.
The verge has a little piece up now on a HTC device with a 5 inch 1080p 440ppi display
There is a big deal from the software. Running stock jelly bean on the Galaxy Nexus was faster than touchwiz from S3. Single core iPhone4 and Lumia is pretty smooth to me (for the most part), taking OS differences aside.
That HTC device has been known for a while, (thats what you get for reading the verge), but I'm more interested inthe Oppo Find 5. Although I have doubt the later will be cyanogenmod supported. As for HTC, 1080p with Sense is still Sense, and you lose your warrenty rooting it and time too. Otherwize I would like a 1080p device. Though the LG Optimus G has S4 Pro and 13mp camera matches the Oppo Find 5 so its less compelling now.
With that aside I wouldn't mind a non-oversized phone with Nexus freedom. I'm looking at the Blaze by T-Mobile just getting CM10, but doesn't look like its a popular phone among devs, being Qualcomm S3 and all. I'm looking at the S3 mini too, though the form factor is ideal, it looks like a lazy attempt for Samsung to milk off their S3 popularity, for its expected retail price I'd rather get a Galaxy Nexus.
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The HTC device has been rumored forever. There where not any demo's / announcements prior to it being shown yesterday in Japan.
Its kind of a lackluster though, 16gb, non-removable battery, 8mp, no-microsd, and as I mentioned, Sense, process of unlocking and rooting...
Aside from the 1080p, I think phones like the Note2 and Optimus G has more features to offer. I'm still waiting to see a press release of the Oppo phone to see if all the specs are true though. Again, I'm bias.
Hopefully the multiple nexus rumours are true and the HTC one is built with the j butterfly blueprint. Stock android on that would be freaking awesome. I am doubtful though.
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If we don't get a new version, I think we'll get a better optimized JB. Unless they go to 5.0..
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How about our devices
Still get update from google after JB???
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I'm trying not to think about an upgrade.
I've really enjoyed every update, except 4.0.4 giving me a weird power button issue that a clean install and 4.1.1 fixed.
I literally just flashed 4.1.2 on, and AGAIN it feels like my phone is a bit faster and snappier.
I'm going to treat my Nexus S like my G1....keep updating until it until it grinds to a halt.
Before that happen, I think your power button would stop working first.
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*** EDIT ***
Aparently a list of devices that will recieve 4.2.2 has just been leaked and Galaxy S2 is among them. Hurray!!
You can take a look at the list here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
*** EDIT ***
So guys, with the announcement of Galaxy S4 all I wanted to see was how Samsung would implement Touchwiz on Android 4.2.2.
I'm probably one of the few around here who actually like Touchwiz, hahahahaha.
So I started watching a bunch of Hands-on videos of Galaxy S4 and noticed a few design changes that pleased me a lot.
1- Configuration screen is now divided into 4 tabs. Much more organized than stock Android.
2- Notification Bar now has the new button from Android 4.2.2 and Samsung used it to show all widgets (wifi, gps, etc).
Five widgets still remain fixed for fast access and I don't know if they can be edited. Probably yes.
3- Lockscreen now has widgets as expected. But I noticed lots of Samsung widgets in there including a player widget for fast access to play/pause, etc.
It seems Samsung loved this new feature and used it really well (better than having CM 10.1 and it's exclusive CLocK widget xD).
4- Status Bar is now transparent. This is something lots of people use to mod here in XDA so all I can think is Samsung is listening to us or at least peaking at XDA sometimes to see what people are doing with their phones. This is actually pretty awesome
5- Lots and lots of new Camera modes! I believe some of them are actually possible to implement for Galaxy S2.
Others like double camera (back and front) might have hardware limitations.
6- Smart Play: a video you are watching will pause if you look away from the screen.
7- Smart Scroll: tilting the device and moving your eyes will scroll a page on the Web or in the Gallery.
Moving your hands in the air to do the same thing is not yet clear if it uses the front camera to recognize the action or one of the new screen sensors.
8- Lots of new apps. S Voice Drive, S Translator, S Choice, New ChatON, etc.
9- Air touch? This will probably never come but it's so cool
Anyway. Let's wait and see if Samsung plans to update Galaxy S2 one final time to give us some of these treats. What do you guys think? Sorry for any English mistakes. I'm writing from my phone. Also don't hesitate to highlight anything about the new Touchwiz I might have missed in this post
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don't wait for it.
Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
That aint gona happen sadily.
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Not a chance in hell. Sam is done supporting us. I don't see a reason why they would continue supporting S2. Samsung is a commercial company and they want consumers buy their new products rather than supporting the old products for free.
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Besides they have given us support more than any other companies. Do you see another 2 year old phone getting 4.1.2? If you think of it, Samsung is good
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I have a feeling Samsung will surprise us all. 4.2.1 is still Jelly Bean and most probably the last Jelly Bean Google will ever release. So it would be good for Samsung to update its devices to the last Jelly Bean and call it a quit once and for all.
Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Many devices less powerful then us will get 4.2.2 like galaxy grand and SII+ then why not the original galaxy SII?
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The S2 is at the end of its life cycle...
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The S2 is at the end of its life cycle...
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i like how everyones complaining that this phone with its vast amount of support,roms and devs is at its end.
I moved over to here froman Atrix 4g tegra2 phone.
The only tegra 2 device to NOT get ics we had one leak that has many issues and no kernel
its so serious devs are manually uart and jtagging the device and building a kernel from scratch.
And here people are complaing that this phone with its 4.1.2 leaks etc have a phone thats at the ed of its support.
this phone got great support from samsung .
Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Very doubtful. Time for a Blackadder quote, "Stranger things have happened. That horse becoming Pope for one!"
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Think about it this way, the SGS2+ is still a brand new phone on the market, and how will people feel who have just purchased it?
Same with the S3 mini which has near identical specs to us, they will have to update it, its only a few months old, and the update isn't exactly a major one.
Samsung's official statement is that they will bring the new features to their 'flagship devices' I know for sure the Note II, SIII and Note 10.1 fall under this category, but I'm not sure what else.
Also, I fail to see how our S2 can't support at least half of the new features.
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Think about it this way, the SGS2+ is still a brand new phone on the market, and how will people feel who have just purchased it?
Same with the S3 mini which has near identical specs to us, they will have to update it, its only a few months old, and the update isn't exactly a major one.
Samsung's official statement is that they will bring the new features to their 'flagship devices' I know for sure the Note II, SIII and Note 10.1 fall under this category, but I'm not sure what else.
Also, I fail to see how our S2 can't support at least half of the new features.
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you cant complain because you have just purchased it. its replacement is about to be replaced. its been supported great in my opinion and i still love it.
We already got 2 updates, no way that Sammy will make 3rd one.
"From 2.3.6 to 4.0.4 to 4.1.2 to end with 4.2.2." Sammobile on Twitter.
Galaxy Note or Galaxy S2?
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Sammobile has proven in the past to know no carp...
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I consider most of those features mere gimmicks than things that are actually useful. Especially the things that use the camera, that'll probably scoop up a lot of battery life... And the status bar being transparent: if they would make it configurable, that would be a step ahead! If Samsung does bring 4.2 to the S II, that would definitely be a good thing. But like the others said, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Many not hardware related features in the
Samsung Galaxy S 4 are coming to the
Samsung Galaxy S III and S II
The Samsung Galaxy S III is still a top-notch
phone. According to Nick DiCarlo, Samsung's
vice president of portfolio planning, many of
the cool features that are in the Samsung
Galaxy S 4 will find their way to the Samsung
Galaxy S III.
"Anything that we can do that's not
dependent on hardware like infrared, we'll
definitely bring to all the flagship devices,"
DiCarlo said.
And that includes several of the new features
for the camera. Feature like Smart Scroll ,
Smart Pause, S Translator, S Health and the S
Voice Drive, to name just a few, eventually
join the Galaxy S III and perhaps even the
Samsung Galaxy S II as well.
Source: Phonearena, CNET
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I surely hope so
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Devs will make it happen.
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What's everybody's thoughts on this new phone? I got a little aroused when it was announced (although it's unclear if it will be released in the UK).
In theory it should be the perfect marriage. Top of class hardware with the best version of Android, vanilla AOSP. It will be easy for CM and MIUI to work with, I guess, and should allow developers the same freedom they get with the other Nexus devices.
Is it making anyone else slightly erect and will you be cashing in your S3 to buy one as soon as they're released?
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I really don't think this has anything to do with the S3. Also, I think it has been discussed in threads numerous times.
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+1
Actually, given that this is the thread for the phone that precedes it, then it would be interesting to understand what S3 users think, considering their next natural choice of phone would be the S4,assuming they had a good experience with the S3. As most people haven't had a good experience with the S3 due to the Exynos driver debacle, I wonder if this is a step in the right direction by Samsung. So that is why I'm asking S3 users like myself specifically. Don't comment if you don't feel it's relevant.
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I got a little aroused
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lol.....sorry:silly:
now i found this info so pasted here as it seems relative to us uk'ers
and WOW A GOOGLE NEXUS PHONE WITH MICRO SD?
The Samsung Galaxy S4 Nexus edition could cost as little as £479 if it arrives in the UK. This is based on the current pricing structure of the Nexus 4 when looking at UK/US price differences and then applying it to the US price of the S4 Nexus which is $649.
Taking into account Google will no doubt want to undercut Samsung's current UK price which is as high as £579 at Phones4U one could assume they'd offer this as a way of beating the competition.
Unveiled at Google I/O the Nexus edition is essentially a 16GB Samsung Galaxy S4 but with a few subtle changes including an unlocked Bootloader and a completely untouched version of Android 4.2 with Google promising full software support.
The hardware is the same as that found on the US version of the 16GB Samsung Galaxy S4 which means you'll get a quad-core 1.9GHz processor along with the 5-inch Full-HD display.
There's the same 2GB of RAM found in the Google Nexus 4 along with the same GPU so it's likely you'll be choosing the Google-flavoured S4 for its screen and grunt.
On top of that the S4 has a distinct advantage in the memory and battery department with a larger replaceable 2,600mAh battery and the ability to expand the memory by up to 64GB.
Of course the big advantage is the fac that it comes with a completely un-skinned version of Android 4.2 which means no TouchWiz and of course none of the extra software features such as 'Air View'.
Google has only unveiled one version so far in the form of a white 16GB variant and it's not even clear if the handset will be arriving in the UK, but for those who want an uncluttered Android experience it'll be fingers crossed when the handset is due to land at the end of June.
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http://www.t3.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s4-nexus-edition-to-cost-pound-449-in-uk
Report button is at the top of the OP simply report not S3 and in the wrong forum for a question .
Then the mods can decide right or wrong move or close .
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