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Not as detailed as a lot of reviews out there. But still decent (and helps pass the time.)
I really like the ASUS case for the transformer they show also.
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/laptops/1284412/asus-eee-pad-transformer
Yeah, the case is hot! I like it and if I get the transformer I'd get this case if its reasonably priced, i dont think i'll be getting the keyboard yet so this would be perfect.
Strange review.... Perfect score, but they noted several flaws on the device - he even said the rear camera was unusable, the browser crashed on them several times and Polaris office doesn't support copy and paste (???!!!!).
Strange indeed.
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Strange review.... Perfect score, but they noted several flaws on the device - he even said the rear camera was unusable, the browser crashed on them several times and Polaris office doesn't support copy and paste (???!!!!).
Strange indeed.
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Yeah...strange. They may deduct points when doing honecomb 3.0 review.
Since they gave xoom 4 starts, and this review declares transformer better than xoom, it must get 5 stars? All the negatives might just be fault of the OS and not the hardware.
Polaris office does support copy and paste, double tap a word to enter selection mode and the clipboard icon is on the toolbar, which pops up a cut, copy, paste menu.
very strange review. in particular i wonder how they got the ipad 2 to last 17 hours playing video. i've not seen anything like that on any other site.
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very strange review. in particular i wonder how they got the ipad 2 to last 17 hours playing video. i've not seen anything like that on any other site.
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They decided to unplug it at the 7th hour.
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very strange review. in particular i wonder how they got the ipad 2 to last 17 hours playing video. i've not seen anything like that on any other site.
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I think the Anandtech review also showed the iPad 2 going for something like 16 hours, also longer than the Transformer/keyboard dock combo. If true, that's really pretty impressive, but I do find it hard to believe. I think some other reviews have the iPad 2 going for something like 10 hours vs., say, the Xoom at about 9 hours.
Who knows. All I know is that if I can get at least 15 hours of heavy use out of the combo, then it will meet my needs perfectly.
anandtech got 13 hours with 720p H.264
anandtech.com/show/4225/the-ipad-2-review/6
maybe this other review measured it with non-hd or low bitrate or something.
Got the 16 gb transformer (black seal) and dock (green seal) yesterday at best buy. Here's my thoughts after 24 hrs of use:
1) Form, build and quality are fine, however I think the Sammy 10.1 clearly wins this category.
2) Docking is a bit of a hassel at first but not bad once used to it.
3) This tab overall is sluggish and unrefined. Playing ANY flash video is a joke. HBO GO is not supported, and trying to play it in a desktop browser (dolphin hd) won't work as flash is broken on the TF. In other words, this tab barely works for my normal web usage.
4) Typing lag in browsers is beyond a joke. It's basically unusable. I am typing this on my TF with keyboard dock and it is taking forever. Google shoud be embarrased to release an OS and tab touted so highly that is basically unusuable if one wants to actually ENTER TEXT at all.
5) Most everthing else so far is fine. I use a Droid X (rooted, OC'd) and it is a ten times better experience. Honeycomb and Asus have a lot of refining to do on this tab.
Normally my posts and thoughts would be much more well put but I am stopping here as there is no way my brain can think as slow as this thing enters text in browsers. Chances are high that I will be returning this tab before my 14 day return window at best buy. I may give the Sammy 10.1 a try as most of these issues are not evident, or not as bad on that unit. I liked it better overall anyway except for the lack of a simple micro sd card slot.
again sorry for my sloppy sounding post, but that's what happens at 2 seconds per text input speeds.
Have you updated to 3.1? Flash for me works perfectly. No lag.
Here I am able to type a reply via Opera mini with very little input lag in the browser. Of course, Opera mini is not the full browser but I guess it's at least useable.
To further my thoughts, the TF is a sexy unit with the keyboard dock making this into what looks like a netbook killer. My belief is that this dockable form factor will continue to be very popular, and it is the main reason i chose this over the Sammy 10.1, which also has a keyboard dock, but not one nearly as convenient nor one with a battery in the dock.
Other things I will mention is that I do have some bleeding on the left edge and bottom of the display. This to me I could overlook as it is only really noticeable in certain low light situations. However, it really isn't something that should be acceptable. The speakers I find adequate. Loading apps via market or sideloading via micro sd has been a breeze. Battery life has seemed very good - too good as I am at almost 5 hours unplugged (full charge on both dock and tab) and it is somehow showing 99% left! Not possible..... but if true I will ecstatic.
I should mention that I have installed the firmware upgrade that asus pushed to my unit for the dock, however I have not been able to force-push the 3.1 update so I am still on 3.01. However, from reading this and several other TF forums I do not think the main issues with this unit (or honeycomb on this unit) have been addressed with 3.1. Who knows if or when the main issues will be addressed successfully. If Asus is reading these forums hopefully they will realize that these issues are extreme enough to drive customers to other companies products. I have had an Asus laptop (g73jh) and it had some inherent keyboard issues that never were fixed and I ended up selling that laptop because of it. I will give this unit the 14 days I have to return to best buy, but I have doubts these problems are addessed by then. I hope they are because this tab has the potential to be very nice otherwise.
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Have you updated to 3.1? Flash for me works perfectly. No lag.
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I have not yet, and probably will soon. I have been trying to force-push the update to the unit but so far no luck. I would also like to root, and will probably use the true-root version of 3.1, athough I do not think that wil have any positive effect on the problems plaguing it currently. I do use several root apps though and if I keep the unit I will definitely root it.
I've never had problems with flash (I updated to 3.1 like an hour after I opened the box).
I use flash all the time and do not have any major issues, I use dolphin HD and it works fine including typing.
Even before the update to 3.1,it was not as bad as the OP has mentioned with the exception of the typing lag.
To say you have no lag with flash I don't believe, everybody does, every tablet that has flash capability has some lag with flash, I've used a few so I know. The TF especially has lag with flash video because it was found the it's not using hardware decoding so it's very choppy. This should be easily fixed with an update soon hopefully by either Asus or Adobe whichever one is the cause.
The lag is there for me only when in full-screen mode. When you play flash in a window - there's no lag. As soon as you go 720p full screen - lag ensues.
Its certainly encouraging to hear some feedback from people who dont seem to be having much for flash or browser typing issues. In reading several different forums it is definitely a problem that quite a few are having however. At least I am able to type at a somewhat reasonable speed to what it should be using Opera Mini. That to me is still a bandaid fix to the problem however. I will be updating to 3.1 tomorrow so I will report on if there are any positive changes after that.
On a very positive note, the battery life is looking to be amazing IF the battery percentage in the notification bar is at all accurate. After a little over 8 hours I am still at 80%, have been docked almost the entire time. Plenty of use during that time including web browsing, download and installs and quite a bit of game playing. Going to let it run almost to zero to see how long this thing will go.
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The lag is there for me only when in full-screen mode. When you play flash in a window - there's no lag. As soon as you go 720p full screen - lag ensues.
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I experience bad flash in ever browser I have tried, and when testing speeds via youtube, it was in the single digits. Certainly strange that some have units that perform so much better than others in this area.
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I experience bad flash in ever browser I have tried, and when testing speeds via youtube, it was in the single digits. Certainly strange that some have units that perform so much better than others in this area.
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It's not that some units perform better, they don't, it's just everybody's perception of smooth/choppy is their own so in some people's eyes they don't have a problem with it so it's fine, or they could just not have actually tried 720P+ flash videos in a browser
I'm not saying videos are all unplayable, but 720P+ flash videos in the browsers are choppy for everybody, HTML5 ones are fine, and this is because apparently flash video isn't using hardware decoding but should be. 720P videos in the Youtube app or playing from the transformer with video players works great. I think we will eventually see a fix for htis, hopefully sooner than later.
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Its certainly encouraging to hear some feedback from people who dont seem to be having much for flash or browser typing issues. In reading several different forums it is definitely a problem that quite a few are having however. At least I am able to type at a somewhat reasonable speed to what it should be using Opera Mini. That to me is still a bandaid fix to the problem however. I will be updating to 3.1 tomorrow so I will report on if there are any positive changes after that.
On a very positive note, the battery life is looking to be amazing IF the battery percentage in the notification bar is at all accurate. After a little over 8 hours I am still at 80%, have been docked almost the entire time. Plenty of use during that time including web browsing, download and installs and quite a bit of game playing. Going to let it run almost to zero to see how long this thing will go.
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Anyone with a Transformer has a poor flash experience. Playing a video below 360p is perfect. If anyone says they have no lag with flash on the T101 has an awful sense of frames per second.
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It's not that some units perform better, they don't, it's just everybody's perception of smooth/choppy is their own so in some people's eyes they don't have a problem with it so it's fine, or they could just not have actually tried 720P+ flash videos in a browser
I'm not saying videos are all unplayable, but 720P+ flash videos in the browsers are choppy for everybody, HTML5 ones are fine, and this is because apparently flash video isn't using hardware decoding but should be. 720P videos in the Youtube app or playing from the transformer with video players works great. I think we will eventually see a fix for htis, hopefully sooner than later.
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Im going to have to disagree with you here. Flash is so bad on my unit, and apparently on others TF's that something more than just perception differences is going on imho. BTW, I was getting low single digits on 360p setting on the youtube test. Literally like watching a very slow picture flip book, and that is being quite generous to be honest. Flash is broken on the TF - at least MY TF, and from the sounds of it for others also.
On a good note, I am still at over 50% on my battery levels, and I have been unpluggd for 13 hours now. It did sit idle for maybe 4 or 5 hours during that time, but was also used heavily while on. I
believe that the battery meter in the notification bar does not start to clock down until most of the battery has been used in the dock. At least that's my theory for why it took so long for the meter to even dip below 100%. So on my unit, I do not think the dock is draining extra when closed.
I go days without charging with very light usage. Maybe 1-2 hours per day. My TF will go at least 2 days without charging. I'm on Prime 1.5 (Android 3.1).
I've not had lag (but I use dolphin hd). I did have trouble with the included youtube app. It tended to freeze if I pause, but I haven't had trouble with youtube in dolphin.
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Got the 16 gb transformer (black seal) and dock (green seal) yesterday at best buy. Here's my thoughts after 24 hrs of use:
1) Form, build and quality are fine, however I think the Sammy 10.1 clearly wins this category.
2) Docking is a bit of a hassel at first but not bad once used to it.
3) This tab overall is sluggish and unrefined. Playing ANY flash video is a joke. HBO GO is not supported, and trying to play it in a desktop browser (dolphin hd) won't work as flash is broken on the TF. In other words, this tab barely works for my normal web usage.
4) Typing lag in browsers is beyond a joke. It's basically unusable. I am typing this on my TF with keyboard dock and it is taking forever. Google shoud be embarrased to release an OS and tab touted so highly that is basically unusuable if one wants to actually ENTER TEXT at all.
5) Most everthing else so far is fine. I use a Droid X (rooted, OC'd) and it is a ten times better experience. Honeycomb and Asus have a lot of refining to do on this tab.
Normally my posts and thoughts would be much more well put but I am stopping here as there is no way my brain can think as slow as this thing enters text in browsers. Chances are high that I will be returning this tab before my 14 day return window at best buy. I may give the Sammy 10.1 a try as most of these issues are not evident, or not as bad on that unit. I liked it better overall anyway except for the lack of a simple micro sd card slot.
again sorry for my sloppy sounding post, but that's what happens at 2 seconds per text input speeds.
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I run magnus' custom rom and installed the hulufied version of flash 10.3 and i use my stock browser(chrome)to watch hulu and it plays just fine,but in full screen mode its has very little lag,but of course i have my tab set to 140000GHZ,which makes it play smoother.Overall after 7 days of having this tab,i'm very happy with it,no returns here,this thing has alot of future possibilities.
About flash videos :
Youtube with desktop user agent 720p => LAG LAG LAG even on 480p
Youtube with tablet user agent => youtube tablet mobile website form factor => 1080p LAGLESS
So use tablet user agent on youtube and it plays fine, dunno why but whatever.
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About flash videos :
Youtube with desktop user agent 720p => LAG LAG LAG even on 480p
Youtube with tablet user agent => youtube tablet mobile website form factor => 1080p LAGLESS
So use tablet user agent on youtube and it plays fine, dunno why but whatever.
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I am using the tablet user agent too, dolphin HD browser and don't seem to have much trouble with flash so I think epicfallguy has got a very good point here.
The user agent for those who don't know can be selected from your browser settings.
iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/
Bahahahahahahahahaha
ipad2 not so great as they would make us believe ......
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My phone has a single-core processor and my tablet has a dual-core. That's pretty damn good. If I NEED computing power, I have my quad-core i7 rocking, 8 GB puffing, ATI HD5870 running laptop that can do just about anything.
Let me know when Android can run a fully-featured version of Photoshop or something better than iMovie, I'll happy jump onboard the X-core bandwagon. I might even leave Windows behind then...
Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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The software they used is right there...GLBenchmarks and Basemark. It's exactly the same as testing your frame rates for video games that are made for different platforms, ie. Windows and OSX. The games themselves have their own engines that can show you what frame rates you're running at so why should it be any different between Honeycomb and IOS.
It's the same software...
I do remember Apple fabricating their signal bars, but not their battery life. Unlike a certain website, *cough*ENGADGET*cough*, Anandtech is a reputable tech site that is more unbiased than others.
The reasons I can believe it is true?
My iPad 2 plays EVERY single video it can play (no flash of course) without fail. My Transformer? Sometimes (more often than not) it doesn't even play 360P Youtube videos without stuttering. Pathetic if you ask me.
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My iPad 2 plays EVERY single video it can play (no flash of course) without fail. My Transformer? Sometimes (more often than not) it doesn't even play 360P Youtube videos without stuttering. Pathetic if you ask me.
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If your Transformer can't play SD YouTube videos, you have a setup problem of some kind. Mine doesn't stutter at all, even on HD YouTube videos. It likewise doesn't stutter at all on high bitrate transfers of my own DVDs, which are well above the resolution and bitrate of SD YouTube vids.
Also note that Anandtech themselves clearly noted that they had problems with their initial test unit, as evidenced by the increase in wifi performance and battery life with their second unit. Until they've had time to rerun all their tests, I wouldn't put much weight in any of their original numbers.
My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?
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My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?
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correct me if I'm wrong..don't think iPad can handle 720p/1080p High profile either
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correct me if I'm wrong..don't think iPad can handle 720p/1080p High profile either
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iPad2 plays high profile 720p smoothly (B-Frames, cabac, etc). Not with the native player, but with appstore players like AVPlayerHD.
GT 10.1 and other Tegra 2 do, too, with market players like Dice and BS but they stutter on fast action scenes. iPad2 doesn't do that. I did oc my GT 10.1 and set cpu to Interactive and that gets rid of the stutter, but for my particular 10.1 Interactive leaves the tab unstable.
Never tried 1080p high profile on iPad2.
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My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?
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If your struggling playng video, give BSplayer a try ... i tried dice player (as recommended) and NOTHING plays video better than BSplayer
Funny as I have been doing my own research on getting a tegra 3 or Ipad 2 or just nothing. YouTube videos work great for me. I have problems with ESPN videos on Tegra 2 compared to the OG Ipad. For the stutter, I like the close to 200.00, savings compared to the ipad.
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i sell and ipad2 before buying transformer.in video playing ipad2 is a bit more fluid,but at high profile 720p it is the same as tf,depend on which software you use for,but 100% lag free video you haven't with ipad2 and you haven't also with transformer.i suppose that tegra 3 chip with neon support included is more powerfull and generate more smooth and fluid videos than ipad2.personally i think that video playing is the only thing where tegra2 might be not exceeding,but not from an ipad2 chip but at least a tegra 3\exynos or newest qualcomm soc (with NEON as well)
correct me if i'm wrong mates...
Lack of NEON is the biggest let down of Tegera 2 IMHO. Reminds me of one of my friends with an aging AMD that had the clockrate but couldn't thunderbird on without newer instruction set extensions some games needed.
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Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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goodintentions said:
Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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It doesn't matter which software/platform. The software just measure how many fps at 720p the tablet can display. I think it's a fair comparison.
Does it matter in normal usage? i don't know. But it shows that the iPad2 GPU is better than the tegra 3 in this case.
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iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/
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Dont forget Honeycomb is software rendering, ICS has hardware rendering (like the iPad).
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Lack of NEON is the biggest let down of Tegera 2 IMHO. Reminds me of one of my friends with an aging AMD that had the clockrate but couldn't thunderbird on without newer instruction set extensions some games needed.
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Thisthisthis. Most of your media playback issues? This is the reason. Except for the "SD YOUTUBE LAGS OMG SO PATHETIC" guy, which either has terrible internet or is doing something very, very wrong. My TF plays back high prof 720p no problem with Dice. If tegra2 had NEON, we'd have 1080p30f.
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Dont forget Honeycomb is software rendering, ICS has hardware rendering (like the iPad).
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That kinda has nothing to do with this...
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iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/
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Uhm, I like Charlie. I really do.
But sadly, as far as his Tegra stories are concerned, he seems to live in parallel (or maybe even perpendicular) universe.
Tegra2 he ridiculed so much and went as far as to claim that it will not get a single design win ended up cornering ENTIRE goddamn tablet market. Pretty much 100% of Honeycomb devices run on T2 (whether we like it or not).
Same with his "sky is falling, Tegra roadmap slips for a whole year". Well, the roadmap might have slipped (or was that just dumb marketing projections, not the roadmap itself), but the second part of the story is that even after slip, nvidia is still a whole year ahead compared to competition (4 core Kraits are scheduled market introduction Q4Y12).
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If your struggling playng video, give BSplayer a try ... i tried dice player (as recommended) and NOTHING plays video better than BSplayer
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Both (newest BSplayer, before ovt'11 release, it didn't even have ahardware acceleration) players are still not prefect and drop frames on panning or action scenes.
They also have bunch of non-performance issues:
-DICE player cannot playback 90% of embedded subs (and for those it can read, it will start showing them only after 30 seconds of movie have passed) out there and has ugly, undocumented GUI.
BSplayer suffers from nasty subtitle desyncing issue and its seeking implementation is utterly dysfunctional (you can only seek in random 15-30 secs jumps)
Oh, and both players suffer performance hit when streaming via SMB.
So yeah, for media consumption device(with 399-499 pricetag!; You could buy two netbooks for that money), Tegra2 tablets ****ing suck.
Of course what the Anadtech seem to conveniently "forget" is that the Transofmers display is much higher resolution than the iPad2 and therefore more pixels to populate...
Perhaps I should make a iPad2 killer tablet that 120 pixels x 120 pixels that downscales 720p video at can play at insane framerates but looks ****. I'm sure the idiots at Anadtech would love it...
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Of course what the Anadtech seem to conveniently "forget" is that the Transofmers display is much higher resolution than the iPad2 and therefore more pixels to populate...
Perhaps I should make a iPad2 killer tablet that 120 pixels x 120 pixels that downscales 720p video at can play at insane framerates but looks ****. I'm sure the idiots at Anadtech would love it...
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Yes I was into a big surprise today, for the past weeks I have only been streaming webtv/flash video online...but today I had added some xvid videos on my GNOTE, and I watched 1 two hours movie with 100% brightness, I did expect the battery to drain about 50% but it was 20%, I thought the screen would drain alot more with 100% brightness... When streaming flash videos from internet like from youtube it drains a lot of battery, I have tried opera mobile browser I got slightly better battery time while streaming But I expect it is the flash that takes much of the cpu.
To get the direct streaming link in the embedded flash video and stream it in another player like for instance VLC would probably make it use a lot less cpu to decode the video ? or how to do it ? just to make a 50% decrease in cpu usage would make huge impact on the battery time.
It is flash that totally eats up the battery, I can understand why apple want not to use it..but you can't use internet without flash... must be some way..to improve flash video battery time.
can't do much about it. sorry. don't expect much from Adobe either since they've abandoned Mobile flash just as devices were beginning to get enough power to use it.
from what i've heard streaming HTML5 video isn't much better.
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can't do much about it. sorry. don't expect much from Adobe either since they've abandoned Mobile flash just as devices were beginning to get enough power to use it.
from what i've heard streaming HTML5 video isn't much better.
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What is it that eats most battery then, the decoding of flash video, or the streaming/downloading with 3G/H+ ???
Cause if it is the downloading itself that eats battery..I guess there is not much to do about it..
Also...is Hardware(GPU) accerlation supported on the GNOTE GPU ???
how to activate in that case ? I know how to activate it on PC but have not
idea how to do it on Android.
First at all, after almost 2 months of exhaustively daily use I got some conclusions about it.
I do have an Ipad 2 to compare with so I'm going to try to be objective here and realistic as well, i will refer to ipad 2 device as the "competition":
Pros
1. Hardware design, a big praising for asus attention to details.
2. Asus docking station is amazing, although I no longer use it.
3. ICS upgrade???
4. Open android ecosystem makes the TF101 stand out.
5. Very good software included with the TF101
6. Asus Mycloud service
7. 1 Gb RAM, sdhc expansion slot and by far better USB flash drives support than competition, this is actual a big advantage comparing to apple 2, where you have to spend big bucks to get units as kingston widrive and seagate goflex satellite drives(Bought them both)if you want to get additional storage and those are only useful if you have a fast internet connection(I have 24Mpbs at home w/ uverse).
Cons:
1.Quality Control, mine came with a loose power button(defective), a brand new sealed unit with a hardware issue(unbelievable) as a geek I spend lots of money buying gadgets, laptops and computer parts, I've never seen something like this specially coming from a $400 device.
2. Honeycomb interface is laggy and overall slow. I'll wait for ICS but android fragmentation market doesn't look good for the time being.
3. Video reproduction on tf101 is overall disappointing, the inability to reproduce simple 720p mkv and avi videos smoothly is a big drawback. I tried all the mayor software video player from market with no success. either tegra 2 has a poor video decoder functions or tegra 2 is simply a SoC underpowered.
4. Price, at $400 anybody would expect to get a better device, maybe is honeycomb to blame for. in contrast at $500 the ipad2 just works, even as a closed ecosystem and even after rooting, the ipad 2 simply delivers acceptable web browsing, video and music reproduction.
5. Web browsing on tf101(honeycomb) is terrible , despite the broad selection of browsers, most of them are useless, I have to keep at least 5 different ones to handle my different sites(ridiculous). Some of them will work fine with certain websites, some of will simply show the mobile version instead regular version ignoring custom browser settings.
6. General functionality became acceptable just after rooting the device, installing latest revolver rom and OC'd to 1.4Ghz(downgrade to 1.2Ghz later due instability issues)
7. Battery management feature still light years behind the infamous apple 2, I have to charge it on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day and my battery drops to almost 60% after playing plants vs zombies for 1 hour(just to mention an example).
Conclusion: I still prefer the form factor, usability and resolution from my tf101 against my expensive ipad 2 64. But seriously google needs to catch up with apple OS and release some universal API for video/gaming and force manufacturers to adopt it. It reminds me of early 1994 when every graphic card manufacturer from that time(S3, ATI, rendition, matrox, nvidia, 3Dfx) were pushing their own 3D API solution for gaming. it wasn't until the release of direct x 8.0 when things started to change. After the Best buy fiasco with my prime preorder I think will wait a few months until ICS becomes mature and new tegra 3 apps/games are released if any.
"I have to charge it on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day and my battery drops to almost 60% after playing plants vs zombies for 1 hour"
i watch 2 movies today 3 hours and serf the web for 1 hour and my battery is in 53%
transformer has an excellent battery...but if your cpu is 1,5 what you expect????
" Web browsing on tf101(honeycomb) is terrible" i use opera,a great browser
"Video reproduction on tf101 is overall disappointing, the inability to reproduce simple 720p mkv and avi videos smoothly is a big drawback" video 720p is great with mx video player
"Honeycomb interface is laggy and overall slow" ics is comming!!!
jrsalda said:
First at all, after almost 2 months of exhaustively daily use I got some conclusions about it.
I do have an Ipad 2 to compare with so I'm going to try to be objective here and realistic as well, i will refer to ipad 2 device as the "competition":
Pros
1. Hardware design, a big praising for asus attention to details.
2. Asus docking station is amazing, although I no longer use it.
3. ICS upgrade???
4. Open android ecosystem makes the TF101 stand out.
5. Very good software included with the TF101
6. Asus Mycloud service
7. 1 Gb RAM, sdhc expansion slot and by far better USB flash drives support than competition, this is actual a big advantage comparing to apple 2, where you have to spend big bucks to get units as kingston widrive and seagate goflex satellite drives(Bought them both)if you want to get additional storage and those are only useful if you have a fast internet connection(I have 24Mpbs at home w/ uverse).
Cons:
1.Quality Control, mine came with a loose power button(defective), a brand new sealed unit with a hardware issue(unbelievable) as a geek I spend lots of money buying gadgets, laptops and computer parts, I've never seen something like this specially coming from a $400 device.
2. Honeycomb interface is laggy and overall slow. I'll wait for ICS but android fragmentation market doesn't look good for the time being.
3. Video reproduction on tf101 is overall disappointing, the inability to reproduce simple 720p mkv and avi videos smoothly is a big drawback. I tried all the mayor software video player from market with no success. either tegra 2 has a poor video decoder functions or tegra 2 is simply a SoC underpowered.
4. Price, at $400 anybody would expect to get a better device, maybe is honeycomb to blame for. in contrast at $500 the ipad2 just works, even as a closed ecosystem and even after rooting, the ipad 2 simply delivers acceptable web browsing, video and music reproduction.
5. Web browsing on tf101(honeycomb) is terrible , despite the broad selection of browsers, most of them are useless, I have to keep at least 5 different ones to handle my different sites(ridiculous). Some of them will work fine with certain websites, some of will simply show the mobile version instead regular version ignoring custom browser settings.
6. General functionality became acceptable just after rooting the device, installing latest revolver rom and OC'd to 1.4Ghz(downgrade to 1.2Ghz later due instability issues)
7. Battery management feature still light years behind the infamous apple 2, I have to charge it on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day and my battery drops to almost 60% after playing plants vs zombies for 1 hour(just to mention an example).
Conclusion: I still prefer the form factor, usability and resolution from my tf101 against my expensive ipad 2 64. But seriously google needs to catch up with apple OS and release some universal API for video/gaming and force manufacturers to adopt it. It reminds me of early 1994 when every graphic card manufacturer from that time(S3, ATI, rendition, matrox, nvidia, 3Dfx) were pushing their own 3D API solution for gaming. it wasn't until the release of direct x 8.0 when things started to change. After the Best buy fiasco with my prime preorder I think will wait a few months until ICS becomes mature and new tegra 3 apps/games are released if any.
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cool story bro
So, after an hour of playing the same game on the I pad, what is the battery at on the I pad?
same game,(plants vs zombies) ($6.99 from apple store vs $1.99 from android market), another big plus here for tf101, android apps are considerably cheaper, but after 90 minutes of playing, ipad 2 is only 92%, tf101 is almost 50%(without the dock of course, revolver ROM, Oc'd to 1.2 Ghz/312 cpu/gpu).
Don't see any of the points you mentioned with my Transformer or they are so small hat they can't be called a real issue imho. Plus I'm really interested in the ICS update which will make the whole thing better (but for me the performance is more than acceptable and also web browsing is absolutely smooth).
@OP I have had my tablet and dock for 4 months going on 5 (September, October, Novemeber, December, January) and share only one of your criticisms: Quality Control. That's just because of the issues I've read here, both by nit picking pricks and about serious issues, and expect the Prime to have more of the former. I have had no serious issues with my B50.
I use this thing excessively every day and it's arguably the best $500+$150 I've ever spent, that doesn't get me to and from work or go in the kitchen for helping food eventually reach my tummy.
I also think you should just sell yours on eBay and save up for the next model of iPad, you will enjoy it a lot more, but odds are there is nothing that WILL make you satisified and happy. At least not that will be produced in your life time.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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same game,(plants vs zombies) ($6.99 from apple store vs $1.99 from android market), another big plus here for tf101, android apps are considerably cheaper, but after 90 minutes of playing, ipad 2 is only 92%, tf101 is almost 50%(without the dock of course, revolver ROM, Oc'd to 1.2 Ghz/312 cpu/gpu).
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Hmmm. You may have a battery problem. I have played many an hour of Plants vs Aliens, I would say I usually get 15% drain per hour. I'm running stock...
I would also recommend trying BS Player for your MKVs. It works really well with my MP4s. Agreed, that the Tegra 2 video decoding is underwhelming.
The browser issue is annoying, I've found FireFox to be the best. No Flash and the tab key doesn't work (I can verify they fixed tab in the latest Aurora release). I'm hoping ICS and the release of Chrome for Android will resolve it. Crossing fingers...
I generally have to agree that the Tegra 2 was not up to the Honeycomb challenge. It was passable, but not exceptional. If you look around, you can pick up a Transformer for $299-349 on sale, which is a value. If you want something that surpasses an iPad, buy a Prime (if you can find one).
Even Google admits Honeycomb was rushed. Further it's like 3-5% of their install base (based on the market numbers), so they probably aren't paying that much attention to it. Gingerbread is now king. ICS is their new flagship product, I suspect it will be better.
jrsalda said:
First at all, after almost 2 months of exhaustively daily use I got some conclusions about it.
I do have an Ipad 2 to compare with so I'm going to try to be objective here and realistic as well, i will refer to ipad 2 device as the "competition":
Pros
1. Hardware design, a big praising for asus attention to details.
2. Asus docking station is amazing, although I no longer use it.
3. ICS upgrade???
4. Open android ecosystem makes the TF101 stand out.
5. Very good software included with the TF101
6. Asus Mycloud service
7. 1 Gb RAM, sdhc expansion slot and by far better USB flash drives support than competition, this is actual a big advantage comparing to apple 2, where you have to spend big bucks to get units as kingston widrive and seagate goflex satellite drives(Bought them both)if you want to get additional storage and those are only useful if you have a fast internet connection(I have 24Mpbs at home w/ uverse).
Cons:
1.Quality Control, mine came with a loose power button(defective), a brand new sealed unit with a hardware issue(unbelievable) as a geek I spend lots of money buying gadgets, laptops and computer parts, I've never seen something like this specially coming from a $400 device.
2. Honeycomb interface is laggy and overall slow. I'll wait for ICS but android fragmentation market doesn't look good for the time being.
3. Video reproduction on tf101 is overall disappointing, the inability to reproduce simple 720p mkv and avi videos smoothly is a big drawback. I tried all the mayor software video player from market with no success. either tegra 2 has a poor video decoder functions or tegra 2 is simply a SoC underpowered.
4. Price, at $400 anybody would expect to get a better device, maybe is honeycomb to blame for. in contrast at $500 the ipad2 just works, even as a closed ecosystem and even after rooting, the ipad 2 simply delivers acceptable web browsing, video and music reproduction.
5. Web browsing on tf101(honeycomb) is terrible , despite the broad selection of browsers, most of them are useless, I have to keep at least 5 different ones to handle my different sites(ridiculous). Some of them will work fine with certain websites, some of will simply show the mobile version instead regular version ignoring custom browser settings.
6. General functionality became acceptable just after rooting the device, installing latest revolver rom and OC'd to 1.4Ghz(downgrade to 1.2Ghz later due instability issues)
7. Battery management feature still light years behind the infamous apple 2, I have to charge it on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day and my battery drops to almost 60% after playing plants vs zombies for 1 hour(just to mention an example).
Conclusion: I still prefer the form factor, usability and resolution from my tf101 against my expensive ipad 2 64. But seriously google needs to catch up with apple OS and release some universal API for video/gaming and force manufacturers to adopt it. It reminds me of early 1994 when every graphic card manufacturer from that time(S3, ATI, rendition, matrox, nvidia, 3Dfx) were pushing their own 3D API solution for gaming. it wasn't until the release of direct x 8.0 when things started to change. After the Best buy fiasco with my prime preorder I think will wait a few months until ICS becomes mature and new tegra 3 apps/games are released if any.
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I logged in just to second this post as it follows my feelings exactly about the pros and cons of the tf101. I thought this was a very well thought out post and in my experence very accurate. I would keep my TF101 over an iPad but these issues definitely keep me from upgrading at this time to another asus or tegra device. Maybe ICS will fix some of the HC issues but it is not likely to fix the main issue I have with some video containers and codecs. I hope it fixes the browser issues because I too am tired of having to remember what browser to use for what site. I recieved my TF in the first batch released by Best Buy so I have had many months to use this thing. Its the perfect traveling device with the dock but it definitely has its issues.
jrsalda said:
Cons:
1.Quality Control, mine came with a loose power button(defective), a brand new sealed unit with a hardware issue(unbelievable) as a geek I spend lots of money buying gadgets, laptops and computer parts, I've never seen something like this specially coming from a $400 device.
2. Honeycomb interface is laggy and overall slow. I'll wait for ICS but android fragmentation market doesn't look good for the time being.
3. Video reproduction on tf101 is overall disappointing, the inability to reproduce simple 720p mkv and avi videos smoothly is a big drawback. I tried all the mayor software video player from market with no success. either tegra 2 has a poor video decoder functions or tegra 2 is simply a SoC underpowered.
4. Price, at $400 anybody would expect to get a better device, maybe is honeycomb to blame for. in contrast at $500 the ipad2 just works, even as a closed ecosystem and even after rooting, the ipad 2 simply delivers acceptable web browsing, video and music reproduction.
5. Web browsing on tf101(honeycomb) is terrible , despite the broad selection of browsers, most of them are useless, I have to keep at least 5 different ones to handle my different sites(ridiculous). Some of them will work fine with certain websites, some of will simply show the mobile version instead regular version ignoring custom browser settings.
6. General functionality became acceptable just after rooting the device, installing latest revolver rom and OC'd to 1.4Ghz(downgrade to 1.2Ghz later due instability issues)
7. Battery management feature still light years behind the infamous apple 2, I have to charge it on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day and my battery drops to almost 60% after playing plants vs zombies for 1 hour(just to mention an example).
Conclusion: I still prefer the form factor, usability and resolution from my tf101 against my expensive ipad 2 64. But seriously google needs to catch up with apple OS and release some universal API for video/gaming and force manufacturers to adopt it. It reminds me of early 1994 when every graphic card manufacturer from that time(S3, ATI, rendition, matrox, nvidia, 3Dfx) were pushing their own 3D API solution for gaming. it wasn't until the release of direct x 8.0 when things started to change. After the Best buy fiasco with my prime preorder I think will wait a few months until ICS becomes mature and new tegra 3 apps/games are released if any.
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cons 1) had nopt quality control issues with my asus kit, you might want to check out the quality control issues compared to the ipad.
2) honeycomb interface is fast once you overclock- i see no performance difference to the ipad in this respect
3)video production can be fixed with OC and a decent player eg MX or Dice- both can play anything very well.
4) your view on price is skewed because you havent factored in the price of the external HD's for your ipad and the fact that the dock adds much more value than any combination of ipad peripherals eg how much would an extrnal hd and battery cost for the ipad compared to the dock, how much for an extra keyboard eh?
5)seriously, any of those browsers are better than an ipad browser that doesnt do flash and so doesnt actually show the internet as its supposed to be. i find Dolphin HD works well on my transformer with few perforamce issues.
6 &7) i agree, the transformer is much better after rooting etc but then so it the ipad, your battery issues are conderning though as i find the battery life while playing games on my transformer to be equal with apple stuff i have owned in the past.
i dont crave for any closed API system like you suggest where people are forced to make decisions and the choice provided is just a monetised illusion, been there and done that with apple im afraid..
at the end of the day its a personal choice but the fact that the ipad is such a closed system( no usb port ffs!!) is the exact reason i dont want anything to do with it.
I agree with the browser point.
I have 5 browsers installed and I use different ones for different sites.
The stock browser crashes too damn much as well.
I haven't used the ipad to know how good/ bad their browsers are.
iPad2 Camera resolution 750kp
Asus Transformer 5MP
Asus Transformer 30% screen resolution than iPad2.
Transformer: More ports, more slots, non-restrictive OS.
MOD EDIT: EVIDENTLY YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT
This largely conflicts with my experience. When I first cracked open the box to my TF101 and fired it up... I was shocked at how much it crashed and lagged. Then I updated it. Then it was solid. I soon after rooted and installed the latest revolver rom.
I didn't overclock and I get amazing battery life. All weekend I watched about 8 episodes of TV shows (about 20 min each), surfed the net for probably an hour, played some games... all while wifi was connected for hours. My battery at the end of the weekend? 27%, from 100% on the friday.
I've used an iPad and the iPad _really_ does feel like a giant iPhone to me (I used to own one). Android on a tablet feels completely different to me and I love it.
So, just wondering, does the ipad play all types of video files, or are they converted by itunes to play on the ipad? --- sincere question.
Cons:
1.Quality Control, mine came with a loose power button(defective), a brand new sealed unit with a hardware issue(unbelievable) as a geek I spend lots of money buying gadgets, laptops and computer parts, I've never seen something like this specially coming from a $400 device.
2. Honeycomb interface is laggy and overall slow. I'll wait for ICS but android fragmentation market doesn't look good for the time being.
3. Video reproduction on tf101 is overall disappointing, the inability to reproduce simple 720p mkv and avi videos smoothly is a big drawback. I tried all the mayor software video player from market with no success. either tegra 2 has a poor video decoder functions or tegra 2 is simply a SoC underpowered.
4. Price, at $400 anybody would expect to get a better device, maybe is honeycomb to blame for. in contrast at $500 the ipad2 just works, even as a closed ecosystem and even after rooting, the ipad 2 simply delivers acceptable web browsing, video and music reproduction.
5. Web browsing on tf101(honeycomb) is terrible , despite the broad selection of browsers, most of them are useless, I have to keep at least 5 different ones to handle my different sites(ridiculous). Some of them will work fine with certain websites, some of will simply show the mobile version instead regular version ignoring custom browser settings.
6. General functionality became acceptable just after rooting the device, installing latest revolver rom and OC'd to 1.4Ghz(downgrade to 1.2Ghz later due instability issues)
7. Battery management feature still light years behind the infamous apple 2, I have to charge it on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day and my battery drops to almost 60% after playing plants vs zombies for 1 hour(just to mention an example).
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1.Quality control has always been a little up and down with ASUS. I have owned a Laptop/Netbook/Tablet from them with no problems but searching through their forums see tons of people with issues. Again no problems here.
2. ICS is definately coming to the TF101 one way or another. ASUS guaranteed it and even if they back down we already have a couple ports in the process of being made. But, to your actual point, I have seen very little lag in the Honeycomb interface and have had an iPad 2 side by side with the TF101 and couldn't tell the difference (I work in IT and would be able to tell if one was "Slower" than the other). You may have a bad app/setup causing this but don't blame the OS as stock it runs buttery smooth and rooting it should add to it's speed.
3. Again, never noticed any playback issues watching all different kinds of videos from different locations. I would check for a bad app or maybe you set something up wrong. The Tegra2 processor (Albeit old) still holds its own.
4. $400 is a steal for a device of this quality/specs. Looking at the specs of the iPad 2 vs the Transformer they are much of the same. Of course the TF101 has a better res screen, can capture 1080p video vs the iPad2's 720p, ability to add USB ports to the TF101.... I could go on. Also, noticing a reacurring theme of you blaming the OS, for the TF's shortcomings. Should have named this thread iOS vs Honeycomb.....
5. Again, web browsing corresponds to the OS not the device itself. But at least on android you have the ability to have multiple browsers (With flash support) compared to iOS. I would like to see you put some examples of websites that requires you to have these browsers on the TF.
6. Another OS issue.
7. Another bad app most likely.
Please come back with more valid points. As of right now you hate android not the tablet.
(6. If the device didn't work on stock the way you wanted it to then why didn't you return it? Personally the second I booted it up it blew me away with it's speed / functionality even coming from CM on my phone, and obviously it was still running stock non rooted.)
Quality control is the only issue I have had so far..first TF101 had light bleed, second one does too, just not as pronounced and I can ignore it, and the first dock I got squealed annoyingly when charging the TF, other than that, it seems to work a dream, and the dock-laptop hybrid blows any ipad out of the water- two full size USB ports and an SD card reader? Plus a multi-touch mouse/full keyboard!!?? Hands down- ipad can suck it lol speed and hardware aside, I'll take the TF for the dock alone any day (I mean the TF has to function of course! But as I have seen it is comparable in speed to ipad2, plus OC and UV kernals YAY)
BTW, I had over 36hours on a full charge, dock included, before I had to charge the TF again, and I decided to charge at 15%. so I could have had another hour+ if I had let it sleep..honestly, don't see how someone can play a game on the TF for a solid hour, but I watched 4+ hours of news last night via WiFi on autobright and it didn't drag my battery below 50% even..and I don't think it was on a full charge when I started..I should really test it out more thoroughly, but so far it's the best battery life of any device I have seen ANYWHERE.
miketoasty said:
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720p from a 0.7MP camera.. (and 0.3MP front facing)... That's going to look REALLY crappy unless you are wearing your supplied Apple Rose Tinted Glasses.
My Nokia 6300 from 4 years ago has nearly 3x that resolution, and it's considered obsolete by now.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/ipad-ipad2-tablet-ios,news-10393.html
I agree with the OPs criticisms pretty much 100 percent. Although my time with Android has been fun, unless the usability, speed, and stability blow me away compared to Honeycomb I will probably look to switching to a Windows 8 tablet or whatever iPad is available down the line instead of purchasing another Android tablet.
Reproduction of regular videos from youtube on the tf101 are fine, I'm talking about matroska mkv and AVI videos(720p) here, those can be played fine on my nettop devices with single core atom and dual core atom with broadcom decoder cards, I paid for those nettops ($189 and $289 respectively).
in comparison the ipad 2 can play those videos(w/ Cinexplayer, XBMC and even the discontinued VLC for ipad 2)absolutely perfect, I can play my mkv and avi 720p movies on the ipad 2 without any drop frames, getting consistent 30fps without any sync issues as I have them randomly on my tf101 all the time(below 25fps and out of sync audio/video issues). I have tried the mx video player pro on the tf101, still doesn't work smoothly enough, getting there but have to constantly be switching audio/video modes, and most of the time have to select the fast mode on 720p playing which has a highly noticeable lower quality detail, and sometimes don't get any sound, have to switch to another audio codec to make it work. It's worth to mention mx video player pro application looks very promising.
Again, I guess tegra 2 is an underpowered SoC.
I'll explain just one single issue here: Just for the record, I encode my own videos, have several years of experience working with video editing at professional level, I take my blu-rays movies and tv series(blu-ray) and encode them using a state of the art video PC workstation, I use the x264 codec and utilize open source and proprietary libraries(H.264/MPEG-4 AVC) for the encoding. Result is a 100% perfectly encoded mkv and avi file in 720p resolution that can be played smoothly on my slowest nettop device w/single core atom CPU at 1.0 Ghz and of course on the Ipad 2 as well, I mentioned the word "of course" just because the ipad 2 is a dual core device running at 900 Mhz with a monster Dual GPU. My nettops have ubuntu linux for netbook and windows 7 starter operating systems.
I don't even want to mention the hdmi to TV output limitation(for videos) on tf101, it's completely laggy and simply slow and unplayable, I have 2 LCD tv's at home, 47" and 70" screen size at 60hz and 240hz respectively, my ipad 2 and my nettops can handle it thru hdmi at 720p and even at 1080p on both tv's. My Oc'd tf101 cannot handle properly my movies, any movie not even a 360p youtube video on my tv's. I found out, my tf101 can handle an acceptable output experience on my Asus 24" LCD monitor , as long as you don't play videos.
tf101 has serious issues for video reproduction, you can blame honeycomb or asus, I'm encourage to accept this fact as a current limitation on tegra 2 devices, will see how it does perform on ICS, not having hopes for it either. I'm starting to believe tegra 2 SoC is a poor chip for video reproduction. I'm not going to tolerate that, video reproduction is suppose to be perfect(like watching a regular bluray or dvd movie at home), no more no less.
Well, guess I'm done here since you still haven't admitted that it may possibly be what you have running on your device or any number of other issues. Again, video's run fine on my device and I am able to game using MiniHDMI - HDMI on my 52" TV using an emulator. Lag would be extremely noticeable here and like I have said, I have seen.... none.