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I have a Fire in the closet in the Amazon gift wrap which I originally purchased for my 10 yr old. She is pretty responsible so far but she is very very private and is not very open to talk about much, fairly introverted, heavy reader and artist.
So with the latest update still not providing any parental controls over content....yes I know I can use my router to filter traffic for the browser but I can't filter Amazon content. I can lock her out from making the purchase in the latest update I see.
At any rate, I am an avid phone tweaker and am pleased to see CM and ICS is well underway for the Fire.
My question is, is there any type of controls planned or built into the current custom roms or through third party apps? Would I be better off putting CM or ICS on it and using the Google Books and other apps for content? Or do you think I am better off letting her use it out of the box? She's 10 yrs old so she doesn't care about browser performance or quadrant scores.
I am wondering which will provide the best experience while giving me the most control over the use and content available on the device?
jamesnmandy said:
I have a Fire in the closet in the Amazon gift wrap which I originally purchased for my 10 yr old. She is pretty responsible so far but she is very very private and is not very open to talk about much, fairly introverted, heavy reader and artist.
So with the latest update still not providing any parental controls over content....yes I know I can use my router to filter traffic for the browser but I can't filter Amazon content. I can lock her out from making the purchase in the latest update I see.
At any rate, I am an avid phone tweaker and am pleased to see CM and ICS is well underway for the Fire.
My question is, is there any type of controls planned or built into the current custom roms or through third party apps? Would I be better off putting CM or ICS on it and using the Google Books and other apps for content? Or do you think I am better off letting her use it out of the box? She's 10 yrs old so she doesn't care about browser performance or quadrant scores.
I am wondering which will provide the best experience while giving me the most control over the use and content available on the device?
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As a parent myself my main concern would be control over purchases, as far as censoring content I'm a firm believer in letting children explore their curiosities and interests without a whole lot of intervention on my part aside from the open invitation that they can talk about anything at anytime. There are apps available that would allow you to lock out apps of your choosing, I'm sure if you do a search on the market you would find something suitable to your needs. As far as custom roms vs. amazons rom I don't personally think either one would be better than the other for this purpose. Hope I helped you in some way and I apologize if I didn't.
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As a parent myself my main concern would be control over purchases, as far as censoring content I'm a firm believer in letting children explore their curiosities and interests without a whole lot of intervention on my part aside from the open invitation that they can talk about anything at anytime. There are apps available that would allow you to lock out apps of your choosing, I'm sure if you do a search on the market you would find something suitable to your needs. As far as custom roms vs. amazons rom I don't personally think either one would be better than the other for this purpose. Hope I helped you in some way and I apologize if I didn't.
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Black anything with black men. Don't want her turning in to Dakota Fanning in The Secret Life of Bees movie.
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I have 3 kids. I am not censoring them, thats imho not necessary. My parental control is that i have personal look to what they are doing and i think its better to do that personally instead of using censorship programs.
Because my kids know how to workaround any censorship software anyway, they are not stupid. But basically they are not interested in stuff that will be censored anyway.
Typical american censorship anyway is very stupid. Not to allow porn stuff but to allow brutality and murdering and killing people is pretty much pathetic.
So i better stick on talking with my kids about what they are watching, if i find something where i should be concerned.
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I have 3 kids. I am not censoring them, thats imho not necessary. My parental control is that i have personal look to what they are doing and i think its better to do that personally instead of using censorship programs.
Because my kids know how to workaround any censorship software anyway, they are not stupid. But basically they are not interested in stuff that will be censored anyway.
Typical american censorship anyway is very stupid. Not to allow porn stuff but to allow brutality and murdering and killing people is pretty much pathetic.
So i better stick on talking with my kids about what they are watching, if i find something where i should be concerned.
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so the reality is i cannot sit on top of my kid all the time nor do i desire to, i do follow up and leave things always open, i am not looking for a passive parenting tool, nor do i really give a damn what anyone else thinks about my methods. I do not believe in censorship. I also don't think it is appropriate to put something in a 10 yr olds hands that has access to absolutely anything the internet has to offer. To me that is a bit of apathetic complacency....."they aren't interested in that stuff". Fine, if they aren't they won't miss it anyways then. Exactly what positive could possibly come from them having access to everything out there at 10 years old? Life is really long and serious, there is plenty of time to learn about the world, in due time, no need to accidentally learn about Big Black ***** go to Vegas #18 at age 10.
So my question remains, which rom would you choose? The official Amazon OS with only access to the Amazon market and content and being subject to whatever Amazon pushes my way, or the CM/ICS experience that gives me complete control, access to the official android market, and no restrictions on what browser, etc....can be used.
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So my question remains, which rom would you choose? The official Amazon OS with only access to the Amazon market and content and being subject to whatever Amazon pushes my way, or the CM/ICS experience that gives me complete control, access to the official android market, and no restrictions on what browser, etc....can be used.
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There is no kid version... You are asking for complete control from someone who might possibly end up knowing more about the device than you do. Kids have something that parents dont.... lots of time.
You might get more capabilities with a non-Kindle Rom, but I don't think you are going to find what you are looking for.
10yo is a bit young to have that type of unfettered access... I know what I would have done with it when I was that age.
My two kids are grown up, but they would have been okay with it. I know other kids that other family members have where there is NO WAY I would give them a device like that at that age or even much older.
I would say filter at home through the router. Asfor content and filtering, i thimk the stock rom is best.
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krelvinaz said:
There is no kid version... You are asking for complete control from someone who might possibly end up knowing more about the device than you do. Kids have something that parents dont.... lots of time.
You might get more capabilities with a non-Kindle Rom, but I don't think you are going to find what you are looking for.
10yo is a bit young to have that type of unfettered access... I know what I would have done with it when I was that age.
My two kids are grown up, but they would have been okay with it. I know other kids that other family members have where there is NO WAY I would give them a device like that at that age or even much older.
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well i got my girls, I have two, a netbook which we let them use, in the family room, with us around. we aren't looking over their shoulder.....but there's something about being in the same room with the parents that makes an impression. They are not allowed to take the netbook to their bedroom. They are not allowed to have cable tv on their tv either. They are lucky to have a tv in their bedroom with a dvd player, neither my wife nor I did. Hell we didn't even have a Nintendo.....
we aren't even religious....just trying to be good parents, let them have room as they get older, but i am not going to just give a 7 and 10 yr old complete access to the internet
i was actually thinking about swapping it out for one of the lesser Kindles without browser and such
I was really hoping maybe there existed a "Kidzui" for Android type of rom or app.
Shark_On_Land said:
Black anything with black men. Don't want her turning in to Dakota Fanning in The Secret Life of Bees movie.
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Your not serious are you? Please tell me you aren't?
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^^^^^^^ What she said
is amazon's solution to unauthorized purchases by kids, etc. to put a password on wifi?
What do you want them to do?
They are your kids.
Wifi
If that is their solutions, then it doesn't seem very good since the Fire to be useful normally needs WEB access. Our kids like to visit sites with Flash videos and games.
Just go buy a $10 prepaid visa card from Wal-Mart and use that on the account or buy one of those dog shock collars to put on the kids and if they make a purchase without permission give them a 2 second shock eventually they will learn.
asb2164 said:
Just go buy a $10 prepaid visa card from Wal-Mart and use that on the account or buy one of those dog shock collars to put on the kids and if they make a purchase without permission give them a 2 second shock eventually they will learn.
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That is a great app idea - if one of the kids hits the buy button a signal is sent to the dog collar - ZAP!
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You can remove your credit card from one click shopping, but then it becomes a pain in the neck to even get the "free" apps.
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That is a great app idea - if one of the kids hits the buy button a signal is sent to the dog collar - ZAP!
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...even when they aren't making the purchases! Mommy or Daddy sits in the recliner with the Kindle Fire making purchases and the kids by the fireplace start writhing in agony.
asb2164 said:
Just go buy a $10 prepaid visa card from Wal-Mart and use that on the account or buy one of those dog shock collars to put on the kids and if they make a purchase without permission give them a 2 second shock eventually they will learn.
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GREAT IDEA!! lol
As a parent myself OP, i would tell you not to expect many adult responses here. No offense to the members, but most of the people here are far from caring about parenting responsibilities. Heck, most of them are still almost "children" themselves.
As a parent, who just gave his 10yr old a Fire for Christmas, I will say I left WiFi on, went through it with her for a while to make sure she understood how to look for stuff, then I connected a pre-paid payment card to my one-click account. Sort of like giving an allowance....
Now, I do think they need to give parents the ability to create sub-accounts (on the computer only) where I can give my daughter access to her own account, on her Fire, and I can simply click a "filter adult content" or choose a "rating" like PG13. While I am not a big fan of censorship at the same time the problem is Amazon gives equal access to adult porn type stuff as childrens book. So if she inadvertently is doing a search for "big black socks" and accidentally types "*****" then Houston we have a problem.
That is the thing Amazon needs to do to help the situation. Make it where, even as an adult, if I don't want to have adult content come up in the search results of my device, give me that choice. Right now as it is their solution is an afterthought and unacceptable at best. I don't care if she has access to WiFi, I care about the content and ability to order. Using a prepaid card is a workaround, not a solution. I am a real parent who doesn't just hand my kid off to a device. Hell, my wife hasn't worked for over 10 years, a decision we made a long time ago, to stay home with the kids so we were the ones raising them, not some nanny. But Amazon has not taken responsibility yet on the Kindle as a family device.
1. Download ZDbox from the appstore
2. Set up applock pin
3. Pick which apps to protect
4. YOU SHALL NOT PASS!
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But Amazon has not taken responsibility yet on the Kindle as a family device.
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Short of turning off WiFi, there is little Amazon can do that would make many happy. With WiFi on, there is no real content control on the Silk Browser assuming you even use that. And any type of control that you might think they should make would be unacceptable to other parents and a no win solution.
Fact is, an Internet accessible device is not a good idea of a child who is not under observation but that depends a great deal on how the child deals with responsiblities, following directions and rules.
I know that some adults that can't be trusted with an Internet device let alone children.
As for limiting damage for unauthorized purchases... these is already a solution for that (Pre-Paid Credit Card) which puts the control in your hands without involving Amazon in the process.
Amazon is in a no win situation when it comes to children as what they should or should not be allowed to do or access, is a Parent thing, not an Amazon thing.
jamesnmandy said:
As a parent myself OP, i would tell you not to expect many adult responses here. No offense to the members, but most of the people here are far from caring about parenting responsibilities. Heck, most of them are still almost "children" themselves.
As a parent, who just gave his 10yr old a Fire for Christmas, I will say I left WiFi on, went through it with her for a while to make sure she understood how to look for stuff, then I connected a pre-paid payment card to my one-click account. Sort of like giving an allowance....
Now, I do think they need to give parents the ability to create sub-accounts (on the computer only) where I can give my daughter access to her own account, on her Fire, and I can simply click a "filter adult content" or choose a "rating" like PG13. While I am not a big fan of censorship at the same time the problem is Amazon gives equal access to adult porn type stuff as childrens book. So if she inadvertently is doing a search for "big black socks" and accidentally types "*****" then Houston we have a problem.
That is the thing Amazon needs to do to help the situation. Make it where, even as an adult, if I don't want to have adult content come up in the search results of my device, give me that choice. Right now as it is their solution is an afterthought and unacceptable at best. I don't care if she has access to WiFi, I care about the content and ability to order. Using a prepaid card is a workaround, not a solution. I am a real parent who doesn't just hand my kid off to a device. Hell, my wife hasn't worked for over 10 years, a decision we made a long time ago, to stay home with the kids so we were the ones raising them, not some nanny. But Amazon has not taken responsibility yet on the Kindle as a family device.
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Way to go man now every time someone does a Google search for "Big Black Co***" your post will show up.
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Way to go man now every time someone does a Google search for "Big Black Co***" your post will show up.
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Much better than the alternative, imho.
Although I'm kind of curious what ten year old would be searching for "big" socks, our even boring black ones...never mind not know what is likely to show up with a weird search like that.
Damn you Swype!
Droidificator said:
Much better than the alternative, imho.
Although I'm kind of curious what ten year old would be searching for "big" socks, our even boring black ones...never mind not know what is likely to show up with a weird search like that.
Damn you Swype!
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Maybe the 10 year old has big feets
krelvinaz said:
Short of turning off WiFi, there is little Amazon can do that would make many happy. With WiFi on, there is no real content control on the Silk Browser assuming you even use that. And any type of control that you might think they should make would be unacceptable to other parents and a no win solution.
Fact is, an Internet accessible device is not a good idea of a child who is not under observation but that depends a great deal on how the child deals with responsiblities, following directions and rules.
I know that some adults that can't be trusted with an Internet device let alone children.
As for limiting damage for unauthorized purchases... these is already a solution for that (Pre-Paid Credit Card) which puts the control in your hands without involving Amazon in the process.
Amazon is in a no win situation when it comes to children as what they should or should not be allowed to do or access, is a Parent thing, not an Amazon thing.
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For the marketplace all they have to do is categorize all the adult content as adult content, and then provide a setting in the dashboard to allow or not allow adult content in search results.
I am not asking for a web browser filter. I can provide that through my router, which is only good while at home but that's where it will stay anyways.....
Already ahead of you on the pre-paid card option but that's a workaround. I am the account holder. I should be able to manage my devices if they can charge to my account.
I think it's inexcusable that device makers and programmers of all types continually fail to consider and accomodate multiple user scenarios, but I find it even worse that power users make excuses for them. I find it an endless source of frustration when I accidentally post as my brother on the HP TouchPad because logging out and in is such a pain. Rather than considering having *TWO* complete WebOS installs in addition to CyanogenMod7 Android 2.3 Gingerbread, I should have a simple user account dialog.
Remember when 2KGames had to perform damage control after one of their forum employees asked a forum employee why his brother thought he could play Bioshock for free? All the user had asked was why he needed to use two of a limited number of total activations on the same machine for two different Windows users to play. It's all a matter of perspective: They would not have dared to ask a console user that question if a family were sharing the console. Now, instead of getting up-in-arms like the PC gamers who were being treated like second-class gamers, we make excuses for Amazon and act like our workarounds are primary solutions just because they exist. Not everyone has a pre-paid card or temporary card (I don't) and not everyone is willing to give up the system-wide convenience of having their information on file just so that a specific device can function as they desire.
I installed the Google Market on a coworker's Kindle Fire and user my Google account to test and load a few apps. When I was done, I tried to delete my Google Account and it said I needed to go to Settings>Device>Erase All User Data. @!$!#!
Hey there
I all be getting my piece tomorrow .
And I have decided to give reading another go now .
Can any one recommend me the best ebook reading app and the supported format that give similar experience as kindle screen.
Is rooting required at this point of time , are there any benefits at this stage, if yes then which method and may be which rom is advised .
My nexus was purchased for me by friend from play store , is there a way to transfer the play store credit to my Google account from his.
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lord dredd said:
Hey there
I all be getting my piece tomorrow .
And I have decided to give reading another go now .
Can any one recommend me the best ebook reading app and the supported format that give similar experience as kindle screen.
Is rooting required at this point of time , are there any benefits at this stage, if yes then which method and may be which rom is advised .
My kindle was purchased for me by friend from play store , is there a way to transfer the play store credit to my Google account from his.
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I use the nook app almost exclusively. The reason is my first device was the original Nook (then it died after warranty), so I have a lot of content through them. I also like the Free Friday selections - they put a normally paid book up for free for one day only. I've discovered tons of good books that I normally wouldn't buy (I hate to spend money on books when I don't know if it's worth the money or not).
I also use the Kindle app for the small amount of content I have on there.
I also use the Overdrive combined with SLCounty Library apps for all of my library reading. The bad thing about this is that too often I have to wait for a particular book to become available. On the other hand I have read some gems that I wouldn't have bought otherwise.
Personally I like the reading experience of Nook. It seems that I'm more able to forget the device and lose myself in the book more than the other apps. YMMV.
I rooted primarily because I wanted to get the notification bar combined with the navigation bar - tablet UI. It feels like I have more screen real-estate. That, plus I like the custom backups better than the Google backup, I've already used it to re-install apps (I did it as a test).
I will probably be adding a custom ROM in the next day or two.
I doubt you're going to be able to get your friends store credit, they shouldn't have elected to associate the device with their account when it was purchased. Oh well, live and learn.
Thanks a lot.
Actually I have a lot if books lying around in epub format , which I used to read on my iPod a while back , is that compatible with nexus as well and van they be read with nook app.
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The 25 dollar credit is per user, not per device... You will receive it
Trying to figure out what to use my $25 credit on that I got yesterday.
Have a Gnex and Nexus 7. So I can use apps on both.
I have looked around and to be honest, have no clue what the heck they all are and what they do haha.
I like downloading movies, games, etc.
I'm also a college student so any note taking, reminders, etc.
Appreciate all your help!
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Nobody? Really? I've looked on here at some suggestions but not sure what to get.
First time tablet user. Protection? Games? Etc?
computingwarren said:
Nobody? Really? I've looked on here at some suggestions but not sure what to get.
First time tablet user. Protection? Games? Etc?
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Suggestions are VERY subjective. I have a feeling if people responded, they would tell you to use the search bar.
My advice is not to blow it all at once and save it for sales. I bought my tablet back in august and I only spent about $11 worth of my play money.
Splashtop is excellent. Splashtop 2 is free on your network. I bought Splashtop THD for better game support. It is a remote desktop program.
That is all you really need. Office programs are largely useless because of a lack of windows compatibility. Layouts and such are messed up.
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For note taking. Just take a test drive. I would avoid writing papers using android office apps.
Search on google for gizmos freeware. They have decent reccomendations for free software though.
Hyrax said:
Suggestions are VERY subjective. I have a feeling if people responded, they would tell you to use the search bar.
My advice is not to blow it all at once and save it for sales. I bought my tablet back in august and I only spent about $11 worth of my play money.
Splashtop is excellent. Splashtop 2 is free on your network. I bought Splashtop THD for better game support. It is a remote desktop program.
That is all you really need. Office programs are largely useless because of a lack of windows compatibility. Layouts and such are messed up.
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For note taking. Just take a test drive. I would avoid writing papers using android office apps.
Search on google for gizmos freeware. They have decent reccomendations for free software though.
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Google drive is the best, it auto syncs with the network, since you're in college you should have an internet connection through out campus.
I was following ouya development but I have to say its a surprise for me that I will not be allowed to play already bought games.
For me ouya was a nice looking google tv with pads, probably it will end up that way since devs will hack the living **** out of it Anyway the freemium/microtransaction model might be in conflict with the whole sourcy openness.
Who prefer cm based ouya rather than stock ouya market thingy?
I'm not to worried about it. The Kindle Fire have a closed system, but was able to get Play Store sideloaded. The Ouya is most likely going to get CM ported to it.
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yeah but the whole issue is to tweak pads controls so it will be useful on touch controlled apps. not sure if it will worm
It has sideloading, you just install Play like any other app. It's probably the 2nd or 3rd thing I plan on doing when I eventually get mine in
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This is going to be a great device to tinker with :victory:
Would just sideloading the play store .apk work?
From what I remember, the OUYA will only be running on Android - it won't have the Google apps framework. If that's the case, I think the Play Store by itself won't work unless gapps are installed as well. I'm sure that won't be hard to overcome (simply flash gapps.zip from recovery or something) but it's worth thinking about.
And on that note, if it's possible and/or necessary to flash gapps, do you think that will open up (easy) access to all Google apps on the OUYA? I'd love to see some kind of in-game chat through Babel or something. (Of course, that could be what's coming with the android games code found in the MyGlass app...)
GAPPS is just Google apps you can't download.
It may be possible to load the Play stare. Just depends all what it required to it to work. I don't know if there is something that has to be installed within the framework or not.
The bigger problem I see is that Google Play may not have listing for the Ouya and thus not a lot of apps will show up or be downloadable within Google Play if it did install.
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GAPPS is just Google apps you can't download.
It may be possible to load the Play stare. Just depends all what it required to it to work. I don't know if there is something that has to be installed within the framework or not.
The bigger problem I see is that Google Play may not have listing for the Ouya and thus not a lot of apps will show up or be downloadable within Google Play if it did install.
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I think the other problem is that the controller may not play well with most of the apps on the market.
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I think the other problem is that the controller may not play well with most of the apps on the market.
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that may be an issue for anything not delivered through the Ouya Store. I think if you want an idea what may happen, if you have another android device, rooted, and have Sixaxais App installed and Playstation3 synced, try running the app with it turned on.
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Just get an mk908 Android mini pc, run all of the emulators, XBMC, Play Store, and Bluetooth PS3 controller. Oh, an air mouse also.
I have to say I am very underwhelmed and disappointed by my OUYA. Besides the fact that I had to look online to see how to even install the batteries in the controller because there was ZERO instructions in what's laughably called a manual, I had completely forgotten about the touch pad and spent a while trying to figure out why I couldn't play Saturday Morning RPG on it. I was really hoping to better the experience by either grabbing apps from GPS or worse case sideload them, but after reading the comments here and elsewhere I think I'm best off just using my phone and tablet for Google gaming and sell this so I can put the $ towards an Xbox One....now THAT is a "smart device" if I've EVER seen one!! :good:
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I have to say I am very underwhelmed and disappointed by my OUYA. Besides the fact that I had to look online to see how to even install the batteries in the controller because there was ZERO instructions in what's laughably called a manual, I had completely forgotten about the touch pad and spent a while trying to figure out why I couldn't play Saturday Morning RPG on it. I was really hoping to better the experience by either grabbing apps from GPS or worse case sideload them, but after reading the comments here and elsewhere I think I'm best off just using my phone and tablet for Google gaming and sell this so I can put the $ towards an Xbox One....now THAT is a "smart device" if I've EVER seen one!! :good:
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I'd suggest you're the only person on earth who thought that the Xbox one looked like a smart device, it's been the laughing stock of the internet.
Ouya has it's own store, having the google play store would bankrupt the company being they would make no money and google would make it all...
I'm sorry you had so much trouble, but I can't say anyone else had issues figuring out these basics, what you have is not a retail product, you got an early version that is not ready for prime time on a software/manual level, so it's rather silly to expect a retail quality manual when it does not ship for another month to retail... we are beta testers, and I thought the fact that we were paying to BUILD it clued everyone in on that.
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I'd suggest you're the only person on earth who thought that the Xbox one looked like a smart device, it's been the laughing stock of the internet.
Ouya has it's own store, having the google play store would bankrupt the company being they would make no money and google would make it all...
I'm sorry you had so much trouble, but I can't say anyone else had issues figuring out these basics, what you have is not a retail product, you got an early version that is not ready for prime time on a software/manual level, so it's rather silly to expect a retail quality manual when it does not ship for another month to retail... we are beta testers, and I thought the fact that we were paying to BUILD it clued everyone in on that.
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ha yeah, i hope he was being sarcastic. Xbox One is a joke....to gamers anyway
it looks good on the surface until you get to the details they didnt share at the conference
a few thoughts
- when i'm gaming, i'm gaming. i'm not switching to TV or Movies or IE every few minutes.
- not always online....but it has to check every 24 hrs (according to one report). what if u have no internetz or are in the military or my bro in law who cant get internet at his house (without paying thousands to have lines run)?
- pay a fee on top of the price you paid for a used game (need to hear gamefly & gamestops reaction)
- kinect always has to be connected. (also what if someone comes in the room & says "turn that XBOX OFF" there goes your progress.
- the exclusives are probably kinect titles for kids
- non-removable HDD (should be just in case of failure)
- indie developers cant self publish
- for our fellow earthlings, a lot of this wont work outside of US
- it's GINORMOUS!
- the XBOX ONE is so forward-thinking, it's not even backwards compatible with gamers.
anyway, finally got my distribution center email for my OUYA today.
reading up on all this stuff while bored at work.
I've shown a lot of people the Ouya, most of them actually wanted one after seeing all of the things it would do. I've had a few who just don't get it and I understand it's not for everyone, but what does kill me are the ones who are like "ok so it plays movies at 1080P and XBMC is nice and all, but why would I pay $99 for something to watch movies and play a few phone games".. .the facepalm comes in when I find out they say this while owning an AppleTV.
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I've shown a lot of people the Ouya, most of them actually wanted one after seeing all of the things it would do. I've had a few who just don't get it and I understand it's not for everyone, but what does kill me are the ones who are like "ok so it plays movies at 1080P and XBMC is nice and all, but why would I pay $99 for something to watch movies and play a few phone games".. .the facepalm comes in when I find out they say this while owning an AppleTV.
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hah, thats hilarious.
i actually asked for a refund last friday, but heard nothing until the distribution center email today. ha. oh well.
we'll see if i actually have any time to mess with it.
I'm of the tinkering type so it was a no brainer for me, but I found I'm enjoying it even more than I thought I would, there are so many games out there I don't even want to throw down $2 for because they just don't look good... but here everything can be played for free, so I find myself trying every single game out there, I've gotten so many gaming time for nothing... and i found I loved some of these games I would have otherwise passed over.
misfit410 said:
I'm of the tinkering type so it was a no brainer for me, but I found I'm enjoying it even more than I thought I would, there are so many games out there I don't even want to throw down $2 for because they just don't look good... but here everything can be played for free, so I find myself trying every single game out there, I've gotten so many gaming time for nothing... and i found I loved some of these games I would have otherwise passed over.
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cool.
so what all have you tinkered with so far, just trying games or some other more complicated things.
basically i want to know where to start when i get mine. should i try some games or sideload some other stuff on it, etc
Sideloaded Emulators, Web Browsers, Onlive, etc..
put the Amazon app store on so I could load up Opera Mobile, Dolphin and Maxthon browser, as well as file explorer..
you can sideload apps without any external tools if you just use the built in browser to download then go to the settings menu, storage, downloads and you can launch an APK from there.
the one thing to know is that all sideloaded apps go to the developers MAKE section.. but most stuff I've loaded runs well, still hoping to get my hands on a generation 2 googletv netflix apk.
misfit410 said:
Sideloaded Emulators, Web Browsers, Onlive, etc..
put the Amazon app store on so I could load up Opera Mobile, Dolphin and Maxthon browser, as well as file explorer..
you can sideload apps without any external tools if you just use the built in browser to download then go to the settings menu, storage, downloads and you can launch an APK from there.
the one thing to know is that all sideloaded apps go to the developers MAKE section.. but most stuff I've loaded runs well, still hoping to get my hands on a generation 2 googletv netflix apk.
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sweet, thanks yo.
i'll be reading up on everything on these forums for the next 2 weeks.
thanks for the head start
misfit410 said:
I'd suggest you're the only person on earth who thought that the Xbox one looked like a smart device, it's been the laughing stock of the internet.
Ouya has it's own store, having the google play store would bankrupt the company being they would make no money and google would make it all...
I'm sorry you had so much trouble, but I can't say anyone else had issues figuring out these basics, what you have is not a retail product, you got an early version that is not ready for prime time on a software/manual level, so it's rather silly to expect a retail quality manual when it does not ship for another month to retail... we are beta testers, and I thought the fact that we were paying to BUILD it clued everyone in on that.
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I disagree 100% in that the op will be indicative of most general consumers that buy this at retail stores. That said, common sense suggests the retail units will have clear and concise guides as soon as you open the box. None the less, most retail buyers are going to balk at a proprietary market.
Their model depends on it, but most consumers will not care about that and will expect a simple, easy to start experience.
The bubble of this forum is not the best sample of tech knowledge level for mass market game systems. Lower the bar. If Ouya assumes otherwise, they may see good sales followed by a lot more returns than expected.