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eLocity A7 Tegra 2 froyo @ Bj's for $299 Now.

The eLocity A7 froyo, capacitive tegrat 2 table now available. The company said this tablet will be open so i hope you guys will support it.
go to the elocity site and click on the purchase tab and then click on the BJs logo to buy. I cant post outside links yet.

Yeah i just ordered one really like the size of my galaxy tab im willing to try this out
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Just ordered one too.
I was considering a color Nook, so spending $50 more for a Tegra 2-based tablet looks like a great deal.
I hope the XDA geniuses take a run at rooting and getting Google Marketplace running on it.

got my order confirmed this morning and because they delayed it a day the itme is now out of stock and my order was cancelled oh well

I ordered mine from tigerdirect and received confirmation.
Hopefully they ship it soon.
BJs charge shipping + tax shipped to NJ comes out same price as tigerdirect.
Hardest part will be deciding selling archos 70IT or returning A7

I had one on pre-order with Amazon (for $379), but when I heard about the BJs.com thing last night, I ordered one from them. BJs.com shipped it out today, and so did Amazon... go figure! I'm sending the Amazon one back, but I should have both of them in the next couple days.
This tablet is for my wife, but I'm really hoping to see some developer support too. I'm going to see what hacking I can get away with before I give it to her on Christmas =)
Billy

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Hardest part will be deciding selling archos 70IT or returning A7
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I'm interested to know which one you pick. The Archos 70 was my backup if the pre-order didn't come through.
Billy

Nice..I'm very curious how development will be on a device like this.
Hmm...I'm think Dell Streak homescreen would fit nicely

Its available again so im deciding if i should reorder or wait for a tegra tab with built in 3g >_

I'm not concerned with 3g (it has USB so I can always 4G internet share from my phone or there's wireless tethering in seconds). What I am concerned with is the screen resolution. I would imagine it has to look pretty pixelated at that size and resolution (7", 800x480, 133dpi), the Galaxy Tab is much higher at the same size screen (7"/1024x600/170 dpi). Surprisingly, the iPad has a slightly lower dpi but still looks great (9.7"/1024x768/132 dpi)..To compare to a smaller device, a Nexus One is 3.7", 800x480, 254 dpi.
Considering the price, I suppose it really can't be beat tho. IMO development makes or breaks devices like this.

Amazon actually pricematched and now are at $357 shipped (no tax to NJ ).

completely torn because io love my galaxy tab but there has yet to be any true deep development i think due to the pricing (i do appreciate the work being done currently for the galaxy tablet though)

Just ordered mine
Just ordered mine yesterday and it is on its way, ill confirm whether universal androot or z4root works asap. Also lets try to get some devs in on getting market for this puppy and maybe some themes and roms. Start posting guys!

Recieved mine today.
My first android device
I'm looking forward to learning how this thing works.
So far, it is really fast.
Seems like a very generic tablet.
Doesn't have Android Market; Getjar instead.
No google apps.
No calendar.
No notepad.
Basic email and browser (w/flash 10.1 installed) included.
Not sure where to start...
I did install Swype and it works great! That is one of the main reasons I bought a tablet!
BTW, bought mine from BJS.com for $299 plus tax and shipping. No membership required. No surcharge for nonmembers.
Ordered yesterday, got it today!

Hey jazz how are the viewing angles on the device any way you can host some photos?
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Mine will be here within hours, but I have one very important question for those already with the device. How many simultaneous points can the touchscreen register? Their official spec-sheet says it's a 1-point with pinch-zoom gesture :/

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Recieved mine today.
My first android device
I'm looking forward to learning how this thing works.
So far, it is really fast.
Seems like a very generic tablet.
Doesn't have Android Market; Getjar instead.
No google apps.
No calendar.
No notepad.
Basic email and browser (w/flash 10.1 installed) included.
Not sure where to start...
I did install Swype and it works great! That is one of the main reasons I bought a tablet!
BTW, bought mine from BJS.com for $299 plus tax and shipping. No membership required. No surcharge for nonmembers.
Ordered yesterday, got it today!
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I have soo many questions:
Lets start with the easy:
1)screen- how are viewing angles. I currently have the vewsonic gtablet and plan on returning it due to lousy viewing angles. Also how is the 800x480 resolution whihc some were suggesting might be too low (galaxy tab and nook color are 1024x600)
2)Battery life. My viewsonic is claimed to have 8-10 hours battery life. How is this smaller device
3)Form factor. How does it feel in the hand. Well balanced? easy to type with? Can it be used one handed?
4)Connectivity. Is absence of wireless N an issue? Can an external keyboard (either bluetooth or usb) work with this?
5)Hackability- I am not sure if you plan to or have tried but being on xda I think you would; can u root it with z4root or androot? Would imagine this is doable
6)UI The viewsonic stock UI layer over android is terrible and if not for other Roms it would have gone back immediately. nOw with work done here the Gtablet is fast with its tegra processor. How is the stock UI layer? is the overall experience quick? Have you run quadrant score?
I know tonnes of questions,b ut you are among the first to own this tab!!!!!

I'm a newbie, so please forgive my ignorance, so here goes:
1. multitouch works. ie. pinch to zoom. It seems to go too far when I do it, but I think that is because I hold it too long. The response is extremely fast.
2. Battery. I've been using it for 1.5 hours so far this morning, very heavy use playing Ashphalt, Madden, web browsing, etc. Full brightness. Battery is currently at 60%.
3. I love the form factor. The case has a very slight rubberized feel. No fingerprints, except on the screen, which is glass.
4. Downloads seem very fast. I don't have an N router, so can't comment on that. I just ran Speedtest. Download speed was 12.33Mbps vs. 13.23Mbps on my laptop.
5. I just plugged a USB keyboard in and it works.
6. No hacking yet. I can't even figure out how to start and stop applications! Android is really foreign to me.
7. This device needs a calendar! I assume Google apps are the best choice? I haven't figured out how to install it.
8. No Android Marketplace either. Getjar instead.
9. Viewing angles: I don't have anything other than my laptop to compare to, so it's not fair to assess. I will take some photos of an image and upload if possible.

photos of viewing angles
Here are some photos of viewing angles.
Compared to my HP 17" 1920x1200 laptop.
Photos from face on and 30 degrees above and below.
As you can see, the screen darkens most when viewed from below. In use, I haven't had any problems at all.
ps. sorry, I just noticed that the view from above is very blurry. It still shows the brightness though. Let me know if you want more.
Also, are we going to get a dedicated forum for this device?

I have gotta say, I love swype! I'm using it right now and it is really fast!
I have been seeing mention of CM regarding installing android market and gapps. Is that clockwork mod or cyanogen? Is there a specific version for every device?
Also,i don't understand the file system on these devices.

CES 2011 tablets

Is it me or the tablets at the CES today were nothing but crap! All this great hardware but had some serious OS issues, or lack there of.
Even the one from Vizio was lagging/skipping frame rates soooo badly. The Adam was EXTREMELY skipping frame rates, and was had crap touch response, and can't see how feasible playing games on that thing because of the way it's designed. Only the PlayBook seems to be as smooth as a baby's bottom, but it's not Android unfortunately.
My SGT pwns them all, at the same time! hah. What are your thoughts so far?

If they would have been able to ship last summer, no doubt I'd have an Adam. I'd really love the Pixel Qi screen and near stock Android, but they seemed to go further and further with their customization there, and it just took too long and I got the Tab. I'm still hoping next year brings 15-19" slates/tablets. I'd even consider a Win 8 slate in that form factor, but Ubuntu/other Linux would be best there as a full laptop replacement.

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If they would have been able to ship last summer, no doubt I'd have an Adam. I'd really love the Pixel Qi screen and near stock Android, but they seemed to go further and further with their customization there, and it just took too long and I got the Tab. I'm still hoping next year brings 15-19" slates/tablets. I'd even consider a Win 8 slate in that form factor, but Ubuntu/other Linux would be best there as a full laptop replacement.
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15 and 19 inch tablets?? What are you going to do with those, literally surf on them???
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I think that size really takes away from the portability of the tablet

I dunno, I have been working my tab for about a month. I have a GalaxyS and the Tab and since flashing the firmware to get phone support, I have left my Galaxy S in a desk drawer. I swap sim cards out if I want to carry something smaller than the Tab. None of the tablets announced have talked about voice support. I think the Vizio unit with infrared is interesting but I remember having this on a palm pilot and didnt use it much as a remote.
I don't see how any of these new units are doing anything different until Gingerbread/3.0 or whatever we are calling it is gold.
I like USB ports but what I am going to do with those? Print? I can already print on the tab. What we need is less hardware improvement and more software improvement - something that is missing from the CES announcements. You can customize a turd any way you want but if it's still a turd it's going to stink.

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15 and 19 inch tablets?? What are you going to do with those, literally surf on them???
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Replace a laptop. Something that big without the need for the keyboard would be a perfect replacement. With Swype, BlindType and others, I don't need to bother with a full keyboard, and with a tablet, there's no need for a wireless mouse or a fidgety touch pad. Weight-wise, I'm fine with 17" laptop in a bag now, but with the battery life their getting on 10" tabs, I can see something with solid state drive of some kind being a full and complete laptop replacement not requiring me to carry around a brick or open and close it. It is the eventual replacement for the laptop, no doubt. If you really lust for a physical keyboard: Bluetooth, and it'd still be less to lug around than a current laptop bag with a brick, mouse and keyboard. I just hope it's by next year. www.kno.com is already taking pre-orders for a dual screen 14" tablet. We have the tech already to make heavy passive-screen folding laptops as ancient as rotary dialing phones.
My ideal two gadget life would be something around the size of the tab, maybe about half the trim around the screen, as phone/portable tablet, and the big one for actual work and real computing that I use my laptop for now. No phone; just those two sizes.

The only one that looked good was the xoom. And honestly I think the main thing is the software that is made for a tablet. If we could get that for our tabs then I don't see the point of going anywhere.
Just worried that we don't have the hardware to run honeycomb.
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Just worried that we don't have the hardware to run honeycomb.
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Don't worry.
Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb. Trust me, if there were I'd know.
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I love how you say that with confidence.

Something just makes me uneasy about Motorola android products...not trying to put anybody down if you've got a Motorola Android device, but the quality just isn't there. At least for me it isn't. They have a cheap feel to them and lets not even get into Motoblur....awful. I dont see the Xoom being that successful
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I love how you say that with confidence.
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There's a LOT of untapped potential in the Hummingbird SoC. GPU wise, it's pretty close to a dead heat with a Tegra 250. Seriously.

I am so hoping you are right on that one. I paid full retail 15 days too early to get the 100 refund so I am not the happiest about that. However honestly I love the size more than I thought I would. It just fits perfectly so I don't know if the tablets that are being announced would be a little too big after using my galaxy tab?
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Is it me or the tablets at the CES today were nothing but crap! All this great hardware but had some serious OS issues, or lack there of.
Even the one from Vizio was lagging/skipping frame rates soooo badly. The Adam was EXTREMELY skipping frame rates, and was had crap touch response, and can't see how feasible playing games on that thing because of the way it's designed. Only the PlayBook seems to be as smooth as a baby's bottom, but it's not Android unfortunately.
My SGT pwns them all, at the same time! hah. What are your thoughts so far?
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I have to agree. I was hoping for a new 7" tab with dual cores and comparable resolution to the tab. 10" tablet is useless on the go and if I'm at home, what's wrong with using a laptop?
I was really disappointed by the Streak 7. I can't even believe Dell has the nerve to introduce such a ****ty product.

Kind of funny how some are in a mad rush to get something bigger while I just junked the iPad in favor of a Galaxy Tab because it's so much smaller and lighter. That it plays Flash video so well and has back and front cameras....oh, and is available on a carrier that doesn't suck at my house...is pretty much a middle finger aimed squarely at Mr Jobs. And if anyone deserves the middle finger, it's Mr Jobs.

Well samsung just announced a new galaxy tab with 1.2 ghz humming bird and 4g lte connectivity.
looks exactly the same but new insides.
Also only for verizon.
Also 5 mp camera and 1.3 mp front facing.

but will it make calls?

So happy with my xoom

From time to time I read other tablet forums. All I can say is omg people are funny, why buy a product with light bleeds, creaking, bad speakers, random reboots. My xoom has none of those issues, and the part that really gets me is these people just chalk it up to that's just how it is. If I pay 400 or 500 or 600 I want it to work as advertised. I have a brand new jeep I be damn if I have problems with it and just say well that just part of owning a jeep. As long as consumers let the business get away with half ass products then it will continue. Maybe it's just me but I don't feel like light bleeds, random problems are normal at least not at these prices. Sorry just venting.
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I kinda agree with you. Pricing isn't everything - build quality is often overlooked by people. When I hold my Xoom in my hands, I feel like I'm holding a solid, serious product. Cheap plastic might be lighter, but it's more fragile, and feels cheaper too.
In this world, I always say you get what you pay for. There's a reason why you can buy a 300$ CheapBrand laptop, or a similarly-specced 400$ SeriousBrand laptop - one of them is much more likely to die on you before the other one.
The Xoom is by all mean not perfect, but I don't see any of the currently available alternatives as being perfect either - they all have their flaws. The Honeycomb tablet market is a brand new one, I'd expect things to get more interesting with second generation products.

Agreed, it's just as I read the xoom forum its mostly people have done something to there xoom not they opened there box and problems were there from the starting point. Xooms not perfect but I have confidence that my xoom will turn on, and will not have bleeds, nor creaking / separation issues.
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Agreed, it's just as I read the xoom forum its mostly people have done something to there xoom not they opened there box and problems were there from the starting point. Xooms not perfect but I have confidence that my xoom will turn on, and will not have bleeds, nor creaking / separation issues.
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Now that I think about it, the only problem I read about with an out-of-the-box Xoom was some dust under the screen. And that was just ONE person. From what I've read, iPad 2 issues were practically an epidemic.

nthknd said:
From time to time I read other tablet forums. All I can say is omg people are funny, why buy a product with light bleeds, creaking, bad speakers, random reboots. My xoom has none of those issues, and the part that really gets me is these people just chalk it up to that's just how it is. If I pay 400 or 500 or 600 I want it to work as advertised. I have a brand new jeep I be damn if I have problems with it and just say well that just part of owning a jeep. As long as consumers let the business get away with half ass products then it will continue. Maybe it's just me but I don't feel like light bleeds, random problems are normal at least not at these prices. Sorry just venting.
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honestly im very happy with my xoom. i rarely ever get any lag and i have had one or two browser crashes, nothing else. I'm an advanced user, been rooting my android phones for years now, and i still dont feel the need to root my xoom yet.... Build quality is great, software is fine too.
Sure, a sd card would be nice, but right now i dont even use a quarter of my onboard storage. 4g would be nice, but in my case i mostly use my xoom on the subway, where 4g goes in and out. its much better for me to have a solid 3g conneciton then switching back and forth between 3g and 4g (like my darn thunderbolt) and having no connection for a minute between each tower
anyway, im a happy xoom owner

I'm happy with my xoom.
I'm a bit happier with my iPad2.
Xoom just feels bulky, heavy, and laggy compared to iPad2.
I bought my Xoom a few weeks before the company I work for decided to give everyone an iPad2. I usually use the iPad now as it is overall just slicker, easier to carry around, and has more polished Apps. I do use the Xoom a lot for music streaming, love google music. And occasionally I'll browse on it because dolphin browser handles flash where iPads fail.
If I were spending money on something, it'd be a tough call. I love android, love my HTC Incredible phone, but the build quality and feel of the iPad is superior. SmartCovers are awesome, it feels clunky to have to find the on-off button on the back of the xoom, etc. I think Android is superior to iOS for sure, but right now we're going through the growing pains of a new OS and a new platform... Can't wait for someone to design hardware with usability on par with the iPad.

Ipad2 is good. But Xoom is better and more functional
biscoradio said:
I'm happy with my xoom.
I'm a bit happier with my iPad2.
Xoom just feels bulky, heavy, and laggy compared to iPad2.
I bought my Xoom a few weeks before the company I work for decided to give everyone an iPad2. I usually use the iPad now as it is overall just slicker, easier to carry around, and has more polished Apps. I do use the Xoom a lot for music streaming, love google music. And occasionally I'll browse on it because dolphin browser handles flash where iPads fail.
If I were spending money on something, it'd be a tough call. I love android, love my HTC Incredible phone, but the build quality and feel of the iPad is superior. SmartCovers are awesome, it feels clunky to have to find the on-off button on the back of the xoom, etc. I think Android is superior to iOS for sure, but right now we're going through the growing pains of a new OS and a new platform... Can't wait for someone to design hardware with usability on par with the iPad.
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My kids love ipad2 that I bought for my wife. However, when I bought them a xoom, they never use ipad2 again.

I'm liking the xoom too.
I wish it had better codec support but I thought about it rationally. I'm not going to have to much 720p stuff with my 1.5mb down dsl connection.

Xoom love
I love my Xoom too. Carry it around all day and keep it by my side while watching TV at night.
I think 97% of the people who have them love them.
Motorola -- not so much.
Mostly because Motorola not only fails to communicate -- they REFUSE to, it seems.
I suspect their lawyers don't want them to talk to customers about non-working parts such as the SD card and 4G because that would provide evidence in any legal proceedings that eventually come about.
And then when owners see the Xoom ( Wi-Fi ) being sold at a 17% discount on Ebay coupled with the lack of communication it makes for unhappy owners.
Does not help Motorolas reputation or to sell more units.

i love my xoom. I gave my Icrap pad to my aunt. I was waiting for a good android tablet and look what I got. The best tablet on the market. Yes it root and clock at 1.4ghz. But look what I can do compare to the icrap apple. Add one new feature every year. Lol its funny to me. I feel my xoom will be around for some years. OK 2-3 years tops but that's how the tech world is. I see alot of new stuff coming soon for the xoom.

I love my xoom and its various customizations. 3 of my friends have ipad 2 and I think they were just going nice and easy because they're not tech savvy enough. Still, how can anyone say the ipad 2 build quality is superior to the xooms? It is not even comparable, I mean what does the light weight have any real meanings beside making the device all plastic? I can glance at the black ipad for a second, but holy ****, the white one looks exactly like an iclone or Iclown from China. Don't even bring facetime and the cameras in the competition. They're useless. And prices of the ipads are wayyyyy over of what they should have been. Anyways, I'm a happy xoomer !!!!
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Kippui said:
I'm liking the xoom too.
I wish it had better codec support but I thought about it rationally. I'm not going to have to much 720p stuff with my 1.5mb down dsl connection.
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Easily resolved by using Moboplayer or Rockplayer.
OS-level codec support should never be an issue IMHO. I don't see anyone complain that Windows has no built-in support for Matroska, for example

If you ever think your xoom isn't up to par go check out the transformer forum nothing but complaints and people on there 2nd or 3rd replacement due to various problems, and I keep reading its a good buy for the price, not when it comes to my time and stress level. Oh here's the funny part ausu wants you to pay for return shipping if you need a replacement or repair. Really?
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I love my xoom also. I don't care about the sd slot working because honestly 32gbs is more then enough and they don't even advertise about that. The only thing I am missing is my 4G. Even if samsung comes out with their tab who the hell wants to use touch wiz or whatever the hell it is as well as who wants to wait that long for updates? Lets go moto
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I really, really love my Xoom. I'm one of those people who carry it around constantly. Even when I could use my PC I'm using the Xoom to check my emails, FB and of course, xda. I'm using it on the road for work instead of lugging around a notebook. It's everything I need in a tablet computer, and more.
I started out in November with a Pandigital Novel (eclair) that I rooted and modded to the point where I got bored and gave it to my Mom. In February I sprung for the 1st Tegra 2 tab available at that time, the little orphan eLocity A7-froyo 2.2, a sweet and powerful little tab, but quirky build and short battery life. Still, I rooted and modded and finally gave it to my daughter when I got my Xoom in April. I figure I've been averaging 3 months on my android tablet progression, doubling my expenditure with each purchase, but the Xoom is different. This one's a keeper!

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Easily resolved by using Moboplayer or Rockplayer.
OS-level codec support should never be an issue IMHO. I don't see anyone complain that Windows has no built-in support for Matroska, for example
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The xoom can't play any 720p file that isn't baseline. Most scene/anime stuff is 720p High Profile which will not play on the xoom.
I cant drop my anime onto it without issues
The 720p stuff I occasionally download wont work without recoding.
Unless you have some sort of solution that none of us Xoom/Transfomer/Acer Iconia users dont know lol?

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I have to agree as I love my xoom also. A quick visit here and my UK xoom is now running 3.1 with full 3g working. SD card slot working a treat and am able to mount and unmount my external hard drive. Not to mention it purrrring along at 1.5ghz .
As for build quality I have no idea why some people are moaning. Its by far the best made and solid feeling tablet out there. I say if people don't like them then sell it and move on.

I love my Xoom. I haven't used any other tablets, so I can't compare. I've never had any problems with the Xoom. And with the 3.1 update, things are even better. I think the browsing experience is excellent especially with Dolphin Browser. Love being able to see flash videos right in the page.
Hoping for more apps to come out as Honeycomb gets more popular. That would be my only gripe, the lack of apps for my tablet.

I had the huawei s7 and the galaxy tab before getting the xoom. i wonder how the devs at google i/o are liking their 10.2 tabs? I hope they stick to using the xoom for developing so we get the latest api's. The xoom2 will probably be out around October with kal-el and who knows what else. tech is moving so fast, I don't expect any device to be current for more than 3 months. I've had my xoom 2 months so... Of all the new tabs coming out I don't see any that will take me away from xoom although i'm interested to see how the HP touchpad does as WebOS was the first smartphone os i used.

Kippui said:
The xoom can't play any 720p file that isn't baseline. Most scene/anime stuff is 720p High Profile which will not play on the xoom.
I cant drop my anime onto it without issues
The 720p stuff I occasionally download wont work without recoding.
Unless you have some sort of solution that none of us Xoom/Transfomer/Acer Iconia users dont know lol?
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Did you try Moboplayer? I don't know if it can do it, but it cam play a lot of stuff that the built-in player (and many other third party players too) can't play smoothly. Make sure to install the optimized codec pack on top of it, see what happens. For the Xoom, you want the ARM V7_VFPV3 codec pack.

Goodbye Transformer

I had my transformer for about 2 weeks and today I decided to sell it because Im completely dissapointed. the browser was choppy, so were the home screen swiping and the battery life was least of all unimpressive.
I did try the stock rom, Revolver 3.6 and Prime 2.0.6 roms, along with different browsers and launchers and it just didn't do it for me me unfortunately
I know I'm gonna get quite a bit of heat for this but my 1gen iPad gave me a better browsing and much better battery life than my TF. the only good thing about TF was that I got to do all the crazy fun things (rooting,flashing, tweaking) I do on my Android phone for this two weeks,but its just not good enough.
so there you have it, just wanted to rant a bit, hopefully the new releases of Asus will be better.

I guess they aren't for everyone.
Some fools prefer to be separated from their freedoms.

Shame to hear u giving it up so soon. I've had mine for about just over a week and so far its been nothing short of excellent all around. Exact opposite of all your negatives.
Good luck with your ipad.
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ipad1 browsing was always awful for me. checkerboard all over the place, and having to reload sections of a page as you scroll is obnoxious. browsing on these devices is never going to be great till typical web development changes focus.

I had an iPad 1 before I bought MT transformer. Great product. But the transformer blows away the ipad 1 and 2 in my eyes. So much more your allowed to do. My wife uses the ipad still and ios 5 made the product alot better. But its still no transformer. I am sad to say I am going to sell my transformer and rely on the ipad for a while, or until the new transformer comes out I should say.
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good story

different strokes for different folks

Oh Noes! But I agree, coming to a developer forum dedicated to that specific device to cry about how you hate it is by far the best course of action.

Are you expecting that we care?

When a user changes from Android to iOS, the average IQ of both platforms goes up.
Think about it.

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When a user changes from Android to iOS, the average IQ of both platforms goes up.
Think about it.
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Haha... I have a buddy of mine who is an iPhone guy and in his case this is very true.

siscopiso said:
I had my transformer for about 2 weeks and today I decided to sell it because Im completely dissapointed. the browser was choppy, so were the home screen swiping and the battery life was least of all unimpressive.
I did try the stock rom, Revolver 3.6 and Prime 2.0.6 roms, along with different browsers and launchers and it just didn't do it for me me unfortunately
I know I'm gonna get quite a bit of heat for this but my 1gen iPad gave me a better browsing and much better battery life than my TF. the only good thing about TF was that I got to do all the crazy fun things (rooting,flashing, tweaking) I do on my Android phone for this two weeks,but its just not good enough.
so there you have it, just wanted to rant a bit, hopefully the new releases of Asus will be better.
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I know what you mean, I got fed up with the battery issue and a few other things like no spell checker and really bad lag while typing on some websites/forums, I could go on about printing docs and a few other things but I won't*
*I've put my tf up for sale and bought a lovely netbook which in most ways kicks the tf ass, but do you know what I've started to look at the tf in a different way
*I've managed to solve the battery life problem, it's a bit of a slaver but I sorted it on my tf, now getting really good battery life, I also sometimes use a different browser for different sites, an example would be techradar, the stock browser just can't handle it so I use opera, I know you shouldn't have to use different browsers for different sites but that's just how it is
The tf is not a pc and I've stopped looking at it as such, I now look at it as a multi media device that can browse the internet and send and receive emails and play games, for that it's good

voyager_s said:
Shame to hear u giving it up so soon. I've had mine for about just over a week and so far its been nothing short of excellent all around. Exact opposite of all your negatives.
Good luck with your ipad.
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I guess I was unlucky to end up with a dodgy unit. have fun with yours pal
ExploreMN said:
Oh Noes! But I agree, coming to a developer forum dedicated to that specific device to cry about how you hate it is by far the best course of action.
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I concur, but hey its not supposed to be all jolly success stories eh

wimpanzee said:
I guess they aren't for everyone.
Some fools prefer to be separated from their freedoms.
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freedom?! you mean like expressing ones opinions without being called a fool?

siscopiso said:
freedom?! you mean like expressing ones opinions without being called a fool?
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calling someone a fool IS the expression of freedom. you can call me a fool now. don't be shy
that's what "freedom of speech" means.
on the topic - good luck with whatever tablet you would buy next think you're already on the tablet side, not preferring laptop or smartphone over tablet device.

moehagene said:
I had an iPad 1 before I bought MT transformer. Great product. But the transformer blows away the ipad 1 and 2 in my eyes. So much more your allowed to do. My wife uses the ipad still and ios 5 made the product alot better. But its still no transformer. I am sad to say I am going to sell my transformer and rely on the ipad for a while, or until the new transformer comes out I should say.
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almost the same here man, my girlfriend likes the iPad much more than the TF. the iPad works for our purposes, watch movies during long flights or train trips which we do quite often. and more importantly it lies around in the house for casual emailing and recipes n stuff and it needs charging every other week or so!something I couldnt get with the TF. however, coming from an android background Im constantly bored with it (the iPad) coz there s not much you can do with it. (try telling that to some filks who find it obligatory to start barking mad at the first person who says the "i" word )

tixed said:
calling someone a fool IS the expression of freedom. you can call me a fool now. don't be shy
that's what "freedom of speech" means.
on the topic - good luck with whatever tablet you would buy next think you're already on the tablet side, not preferring laptop or smartphone over tablet device.
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ok you're a fool nahhhh
yeah I suppose I'm leaning towards Samsung this time. hopefully I wont be starting one o these threads in Samsung dedicated forum anytime soon

Can you not even jail break them anymore???
I remember when i got my first gen ipod touch before android even existed and put ubuntu on it among other things that was the device that got me interested in hacking programming etc
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The battery issues some have is as simple as installing the auto airplane app from the market. With moderate use of my TF, I can get just over a week of battery life. As far as browsing, in my case, opera has worked so well on every website that I've totally stopped using the stock browser. My sister has a Ipad2 and it totally blows compared to the TF for general use, which that is all apple products are good for in my eyes. I can't even imagine what the TF2 will be like.

Danzano said:
Can you not even jail break them anymore???
I remember when i got my first gen ipod touch before android even existed and put ubuntu on it among other things that was the device that got me interested in hacking programming etc
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you still can, but there is so much extra, unofficial tweaks you can put on to make it more interesting.
Riley1524 said:
The battery issues some have is as simple as installing the auto airplane app from the market. With moderate use of my TF, I can get just over a week of battery life. As far as browsing, in my case, opera has worked so well on every website that I've totally stopped using the stock browser. My sister has a Ipad2 and it totally blows compared to the TF for general use, which that is all apple products are good for in my eyes. I can't even imagine what the TF2 will be like.
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Thats the thing, I didnt want to have to turn things off to get a good battery life. I wanted to get email notifications the minute the email comes not the next time I turn it on.

[Q] Buy or not to buy?

Hey, cool forum :good:
I am trying to decide if a Nexus 10 is suitable for me. I currently have a Nexus 4 and a Acer C7 Chromebook.
I mainly browse the internet on sites like reddit, XDA (obv), checking emails and YouTube.
What attracts me to the Nexus is having the stock Android experience combined with killer specs like the screen resolution, I watch a lot of movies so having a high resolution screen is important because I prefer HD content (Who doesn't, right?). Also, will most content on YouTube play on it?
Is the battery life good? And lastly, is it worth getting a screen protector and case with a keyboard?

Crap Username said:
Hey, cool forum :good:
I am trying to decide if a Nexus 10 is suitable for me. I currently have a Nexus 4 and a Acer C7 Chromebook.
I mainly browse the internet on sites like reddit, XDA (obv), checking emails and YouTube.
What attracts me to the Nexus is having the stock Android experience combined with killer specs like the screen resolution, I watch a lot of movies so having a high resolution screen is important because I prefer HD content (Who doesn't, right?). Also, will most content on YouTube play on it?
Is the battery life good? And lastly, is it worth getting a screen protector and case with a keyboard?
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Buy. Its very good.

sharp910sh said:
Buy. Its very good.
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I secnod this, even if I'm having issues with Samsung's service. Hopefully you don't get a defective unit. Love the N10, hate Samsung.

Had my N10 for just over a week and do all the activities in your list. I am very pleased with my purchase. I have a lot of tech devices and am rarely surprised but several times as I customize the UI or find another "cool" app I am amazed at the overall speed of the N10 and how visually impressive it looks.
If you try to use it outside of its intended sphere (media consumption) I asume you could gripe at what it does not do well. Mine replaced a netbook used for media consumption and it blew that away. Viewing emails and short replies are fine but I use my desktop PC for any extensive typing. Right now I do not intend to purchase a bluetooth keyboard.
The lack of accessories can be a pain. I had to make my own dock, so I could watch videos hands free in bed, while waiting for a better solution. It looks crappy but does the job.

I got the N10 early December and haven't regretted it for a moment, I use it for all the activities you list, I travel for work and basically live away 3 to 5 days a week. My work Laptop is VERY locked down as I work in a secure business so the Nexus is my laptop replacement while I'm away, I used to lug two laptops at times but no longer. The Nexus does media, games and browsing in style. I also use it to maintain a couple of websites while I'm away and it works well with the simpler stuff. I wouldn't pretend it's perfect but all round an excellent package and I wouldn't want to go back to hauling two laptops round.
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3DSammy said:
Had my N10 for just over a week and do all the activities in your list. I am very pleased with my purchase. I have a lot of tech devices and am rarely surprised but several times as I customize the UI or find another "cool" app I am amazed at the overall speed of the N10 and how visually impressive it looks.
If you try to use it outside of its intended sphere (media consumption) I asume you could gripe at what it does not do well. Mine replaced a netbook used for media consumption and it blew that away. Viewing emails and short replies are fine but I use my desktop PC for any extensive typing. Right now I do not intend to purchase a bluetooth keyboard.
The lack of accessories can be a pain. I had to make my own dock, so I could watch videos hands free in bed, while waiting for a better solution. It looks crappy but does the job.
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I found the MoKo case w/ bluetooth KB on AMazon for $28 to make a great stand and keyboard case. Keyboard's magnetic and removable, too

I have my Nexus 10 for about a week now and I also hesitated for a good while if I should buy it or not. Now that I've been using it for a while I can safely say that it was an awesome purchase.
The screen is brilliant, it's lightning fast, the build quality is top notch (none of the hardware errors that made me so worried in the first place, very solid back etc.) and it does everything I want it to do.
I got a Logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it (you can find it here) - it says it is for the iPad, but everything works just fine for Android. It's big enough to make typing a breeze and I use it all the time during my classes.
Battery life is very good at about 8-10 hours of heavy usage (brightness adjusted to about ~30%), which lasts me the entire day and I never need to worry about running out before I get through the day.
Make sure you get a nice case for it as well and you're all set. I read so much about reboots and lockups, but during this week I've used the devise intensely and I didn't get a single reboot or lockup. I think Chrome crashed on me once and that certainly is nothing to complain about.
Media playback feels sooo nice - the screen really shines when watching movies and the speakers are also really good.
I was weighing so many options - the Transformer Prime, different Asus und Acer tabs, I even looked at the Surface RT and the Sony Xperia Tablet Z which is gonna be released soon. It was a close call between buying the Nexus 10 now or waiting for the Xperia Z - in the end the small battery on the Xperia Z made the difference for me. I need at least 8 hours usage from my tablet and I wouldn't have gotten that from the Sony device, so I'm very, very happy.
It's the best tablet out right now and I'm saying that after watching hours of Youtube reviews, reading on a lot of sites and finally having the Nexus 10 at home. You can't go wrong with it!

I love mine. It was a Christmas gift from my wife and I've used it everyday since. I use it for what you described. I'm not much of a gamer, but every so often I might play something.
Regrading battery life, mine is more than acceptable. Over the weekend I got over 48 hours before having to charge it (about 5 1/2 hours of screen on time) and yesterday, with heavy usage, I got 7 1/2 hours of screen on time.
One bit of advice, if you can, buy it locally from Walmart or Staples instead of going through the Play Store. Unfortunately, there are some units that suffer from bad light bleed and other issues. Exchanging it at a store will be easier than the RMA process with Google.

Even I'm stuck wid the same problem... One of my czn's got the N10, and he's getting a 100% CPU load wid nothing on it.... No background process, nothing else.... And reading abt the defected ones is so scary, that to me, every second N10 seems to be defected (Okay... that's a bit of exaggeration, but yeah, it feels like that...) Would someone recommend a good place to buy an Un-defected N10???