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[Q] I wonder if there is a possible way to use my Thunderbolt LTE SIM in a Xoom or other LTE device Verizon? Also, I would like to know more about LTE frequencies. Like, if I cloned my Verizon SIM with a AT&T LTE Sims, would I be allowed to use AT&T devices on my Verizon account despite the obvious?
Why cloning? Unlock the phone, simple and easy. Sim cloning is getting harder every day, even the old 2g sims with latest encription is hard to clon.it may takes even days..
Lte sims can be used in any lte phones if the phone is not network locked. Remember that sim is not locked to a phone, the thing is phones can be locked to a network via software or cid or nand locking methods. Unlock the phone, use it in any network ( not applicable for cdma phones which can be used in cdma networks ONLY and dont have sim slots ) provided the phone have corresponding network reception bands( hardware limited/ very few times software limited, nothing can be done if u r hardware limited, but software limitations can be unlocked).
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befreshshaveivorysalesoap said:
[Q] I wonder if there is a possible way to use my Thunderbolt LTE SIM in a Xoom or other LTE device Verizon? Also, I would like to know more about LTE frequencies. Like, if I cloned my Verizon SIM with a AT&T LTE Sims, would I be allowed to use AT&T devices on my Verizon account despite the obvious?
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Verizon and AT&T both use the 700Mhz field for their LTE but is the small differences that won't allow Swapping
AT&T - 704 - 746MHZ
Verizon - 746MHZ - 787MHZ
Now if they eventually down the road overlap each other in an identical field then yes its possible but Verizon at the moment is using LTE for DATA only and using CDMA for Voice (for now) while AT&T uses both Voice/Data on its LTE.
But Yes you can switch Verizon LTE Phones all you want.. Your account is tied to the Simcard so swap away... I had an HTC Thunderbolt, bought the Rezound and just hot swapped the simcard without ever telling Verizon and it works .... Now I'm not sure if swapping LTE simcard between a tablet and Phone will work the same way.. I would figure yes since the Tablet is only going to use LTE.. but not 100%
It will work. I use my Rezound's SIM for the phone and my Novatel Jetpack. It shows on my account as the Jetpack, with unlimited talk and text.
Im using my Galaxy Nexus(cdma) micro sim in my "new" iPad, no problems.. unlimited data.. and I use Line2 app as my phone/sms. Im sure google voice sms might work for sms too.
Thanks. This is the answer I was hoping for
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What exactly is the purpose of the Sprint sim card? I went to Russia and got the phone unlocked by Sprint, put in a Megafon gsm sim when I got there and accidentally allowed my Sprint sim to get destroyed in the washing machine. So when I got home I expected my phone to not work, but I figured I would switch it over to CDMA just to see what would happen and it works perfect! So I am confused as to why the Sprint sim is even there, is it just a dummy card with no real purpose?
The SIM is for LTE service. CDMA will work without it.
jmana said:
What exactly is the purpose of the Sprint sim card? I went to Russia and got the phone unlocked by Sprint, put in a Megafon gsm sim when I got there and accidentally allowed my Sprint sim to get destroyed in the washing machine. So when I got home I expected my phone to not work, but I figured I would switch it over to CDMA just to see what would happen and it works perfect! So I am confused as to why the Sprint sim is even there, is it just a dummy card with no real purpose?
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nivron said:
The SIM is for LTE service. CDMA will work without it.
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That cant be true. I had a galaxy nexus on sprint and the sprint variant had no sim slot and connected to 4g lte when I was in the area.
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Back then, the sim was "integrated" into the phone.
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robogoflow said:
That cant be true. I had a galaxy nexus on sprint and the sprint variant had no sim slot and connected to 4g lte when I was in the area.
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Different phone different configuration.
Both the gnex and evo 4g lte had embedded sim cards.
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That cant be true. I had a galaxy nexus on sprint and the sprint variant had no sim slot and connected to 4g lte when I was in the area.
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Both the gnex and evo 4g lte had embedded sim cards.
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Yep, the SIM card in SG4 is for LTE.
new sim is $50 so you might be more careful next time
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lafester said:
new sim is $50 so you might be more careful next time
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Dang! Is it really that much? Not only is $50 many, many times what it costs Sprint to procure the SIM card (which I would guesstimate at less than 50 cents a piece), it is also a lot more than what the other US carriers charge for a SIM.
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Yep, the SIM card in SG4 is for LTE.
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I thought the purpose of the Sprint SIM card was to enable Sprint's Worldwide services. Where does it show you need a sim for LTE?
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cruise350 said:
I thought the purpose of the Sprint SIM card was to enable Sprint's Worldwide services. Where does it show you need a sim for LTE?
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You can ask Sprint (I wouldn't count on the clear answer though) or just get to the LTE coverage area, Sprint stores have LTE 4G and pull the SIM out to verify that you cannot get 4G without it.
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I thought the purpose of the Sprint SIM card was to enable Sprint's Worldwide services. Where does it show you need a sim for LTE?
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The primary purpose of the SIM card in recent Sprint phones is to provision LTE. While previous Sprint LTE Android handsets did not have a SIM slot, they still had a SIM, it's just that it was an embedded/soldered/non-removable type of SIM card.
If you take the SIM out you will not be able to register on Sprint's LTE network.
dont need sim
myphone12345 said:
The primary purpose of the SIM card in recent Sprint phones is to provision LTE. While previous Sprint LTE Android handsets did not have a SIM slot, they still had a SIM, it's just that it was an embedded/soldered/non-removable type of SIM card.
If you take the SIM out you will not be able to register on Sprint's LTE network.
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you do not need a sim card fir lte. You do not need the sim at all while in USA. It will connect to the lte network without it.
rtresh said:
you do not need a sim card fir lte. You do not need the sim at all while in USA. It will connect to the lte network without it.
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Are you sure about this? When running a Verizon ROM on sprint without the proper tweaks, you will get am error about LTE not being able yo connect because it doesn't detect a Verizon sim card. 3G works though.
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rtresh said:
you do not need a sim card fir lte. You do not need the sim at all while in USA. It will connect to the lte network without it.
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You are completely wrong. The phone will definitely not connect to Sprint's LTE network if you take the Sprint SIM out. You will only get CDMA service.
you are wrong
myphone12345 said:
You are completely wrong. The phone will definitely not connect to Sprint's LTE network if you take the Sprint SIM out. You will only get CDMA service.
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I am using the phone and do not have a sim card. so please tell me how i am wrong? I am on sprint and use lte in any are that has it as Michigan is limited at this time. The phone will auto connect to the 4g service
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I am using the phone and do not have a sim card. so please tell me how i am wrong? I am on sprint and use lte in any are that has it as Michigan is limited at this time. The phone will auto connect to the 4g service
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Can you provide a screen capture showing the notification bar with the "no SIM" and 4G indicators both on at the same time?
no sim
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Can you provide a screen capture showing the notification bar with the "no SIM" and 4G indicators both on at the same time?
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i will when in a 4g area. i am not sure how to show the sim status at the same time as it is not displayed. Since you dont believe, you can contact radio shack in the twelve oaks mall in novi Michigan. They do not have sprint sims and I was in shock when they actually activated the phone because I was thinking I would need to go get a sim card, but it is not needed.
I get my wife a used S4 today that was previously on the Sprint network. We are on ATT and i planned on rooting the phone any ways. What all do i need to change to get rid of the sprint phone number that is on the phone, and what do i need to flash to make it work with the att network?
Don't believe it's possible. ..Sprint is CDMA and dont use SIM cards ATT uses GSM and SIM cards
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Only other carrier that uses CDMA is VZW
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it has a sim card slot on the phone. They said it was unlocked and would work with all carriers. When i put the sim card in, it says Invalid SIM card
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it has a sim card slot on the phone. They said it was unlocked and would work with all carriers. When i put the sim card in, it says Invalid SIM card
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Because its for international SIM cards. Your Sprint S4 WILL NOT WORK on any US carrier other than Sprint.
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Because its for international SIM cards. Your Sprint S4 WILL NOT WORK on any US carrier other than Sprint.
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I can confirm this. I work as a Sprint wireless consultant. A sim unlocked phone from Sprint is not compatible with any domestic carriers.
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Its true.. Sprint is the only greedy company that goes out of their way to block gsm domestically within the USA.
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worthless sprint is sprint and sprint only...sorry, no ATT for you.
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Its true.. Sprint is the only greedy company that goes out of their way to block gsm domestically within the USA.
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I'm sorry to have to disagree with this but I own a blackberry 9630 world phone from sprint and the sim slot works both with at&t as well as tmo. I understand ad long as contract is fulfilled and any etf's are paid Sprint will unlock sim slot and it will work with any carrier, gsm and CDMA alike. Check Sprint forums and speak with cs agents... :good:
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I'm sorry to have to disagree with this but I own a blackberry 9630 world phone from sprint and the sim slot works both with at&t as well as tmo. I understand ad long as contract is fulfilled and any etf's are paid Sprint will unlock sim slot and it will work with any carrier, gsm and CDMA alike. Check Sprint forums and speak with cs agents... :good:
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Try using an Att/T-Mobile sim on an s4. It will be blocked even if the phone has been unlocked. Previous phones from sprint did not block USA native gsm but as of lately they do.
My good ol htc touch pro was a lucky one to work on USA gsm as of course your old black Berry.
You get it now? Its an accepted fact sprint has been going out of their way to block USA native gsm access on their latest phones. Perhaps some new ones aren't but the s4 is unless a work around is done but it doesn't work for everyone.
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This isn't entirely true. I unlocked my Sprint HTC One to run on aio wireless which is on the ATT network. I haven't unlocked my Galaxy S4 but I intend on giving it a shot.
Call sprint and ask for a subsidy unlock code.
You'll need to provide the IMEI
*#06# on the keypad. After they give you the code, try a gsm sim. Hope this helps.
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Or buy an unlock code from Amazon or ebay if they wont give it to you ofcourse
CuhThooLoo said:
This isn't entirely true. I unlocked my Sprint HTC One to run on aio wireless which is on the ATT network. I haven't unlocked my Galaxy S4 but I intend on giving it a shot.
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thinking of doing the same with my s4 on sprint and going to aio. Been with sprint over a decade and finally over it. In houston and lte sucks.
wow that sucks, because even Verizon who is the greediest of them all will let you use their phone on both AT&T and T-Mobile. I have the AT&T Galaxy S4 and I can use my phone on T Mobile as well.
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thinking of doing the same with my s4 on sprint and going to aio. Been with sprint over a decade and finally over it. In houston and lte sucks.
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I tried and tried to unlock my Sprint S4 for domestic SIM but I have failed time and time again. I got it unlocked for International but Sprint has somehow managed to block the S4 from working on a Domestic carrier. I'll let you know if I have any luck.
CuhThooLoo said:
I tried and tried to unlock my Sprint S4 for domestic SIM but I have failed time and time again. I got it unlocked for International but Sprint has somehow managed to block the S4 from working on a Domestic carrier. I'll let you know if I have any luck.
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I think I've read about people unlocking for use on metro pcs which is tmobile. Thanks for heads up though, probably gonna have to buy one when I switch.
I unlocked a Sprint s4 and I am able to make calls with a AT&T micro sim in but cannot get data and texts working. I had to downgrade the baseband to get into hidden menu, but I stopped there. In the hidden menu you have to make some changes but I was scared that if I got it to work on at&t I wouldnt be able to get it back working on Sprint. Everyone does say that Sprint doesnt allow anyone to use other domestic carriers.
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cyrusalmighty said:
I unlocked a Sprint s4 and I am able to make calls with a AT&T micro sim in but cannot get data and texts working. I had to downgrade the baseband to get into hidden menu, but I stopped there. In the hidden menu you have to make some changes but I was scared that if I got it to work on at&t I wouldnt be able to get it back working on Sprint. Everyone does say that Sprint doesnt allow anyone to use other domestic carriers.
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here is a video I made for on sprint 4g to att h+ back to sprint 4g with no problems no sound in the video tho and no need for root inless you want data then you need to edit apns no you should get on E or 3g maybe with this without apn.
tNoobYsYL8o <--- end of youtube link just made an acc so can't post the whole link
how you do it
eheilner said:
here is a video I made for on sprint 4g to att h+ back to sprint 4g with no problems no sound in the video tho and no need for root inless you want data then you need to edit apns no you should get on E or 3g maybe with this without apn.
tNoobYsYL8o <--- end of youtube link just made an acc so can't post the whole link
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can you provide how you do it to unlock the s4 sprint use in att
thanks in advance
Hey everyone,
Did anyone register the IMEI for their I9505G with AT&T? If so, did you have any issues with your data plan changing to non-LTE? My GPE S4 will be here tomorrow and I'm worried that when I activate it, AT&T may not see it as an LTE-compatible device and thus limit my data plan to HSPA+ or something. I know when you're dealing with unlocked devices on AT&T, they will change your date plan speeds based on what their records show the device is capable of. So... did anyone have any issue with this or am I worrying over nothing?
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No. I never had any problems. I just asked for a new sim. Nothing more. I was coming from a skyrocket, took the larger sim. No questions were asked. They just got grabbed a new Sim card. Put it in and activated it. LTE workes great for me when I am in it.
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No major problems. It was pretty straightforward. Only problem I had was that the S4 uses a micro SIM card and my old phone used a normal sized one so it didn't fit. One trip into an AT&T store and I was all set.
If you don't want to get a new micro SIM card, I guess there are some ways to trim down a normal card so that it works. Seemed easier to just go down to the store and get a new one and handle the activation in one stop.
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No. I never had any problems. I just asked for a new sim. Nothing more. I was coming from a skyrocket, took the larger sim. No questions were asked. They just got grabbed a new Sim card. Put it in and activated it. LTE workes great for me when I am in it.
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Ah. So when you got the new SIM card, did you provide your new IMEI number? Or does AT&T still think you have a Skyrocket?
I have an AT&T GS4 right now, so I currently have an LTE data plan. I know I can just swap the SIM and LTE will work just fine. But say I called AT&T and said "Hey, I don't have that phone anymore and here is the IMEI of my new phone...", that's my question.
Does AT&T see the GPE GS4s as LTE capable in their database? I prefer to keep my IMEIs up to date with my carriers, but I won't update it if it means there's a chance I could lose an LTE data plan due to incorrect info on the I9505G in AT&T's database.
That's why I'm asking if anyone actually has an I9505G IMEI number registered with AT&T and if they had any LTE issues after doing so.
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No major problems. It was pretty straightforward. Only problem I had was that the S4 uses a micro SIM card and my old phone used a normal sized one so it didn't fit. One trip into an AT&T store and I was all set.
If you don't want to get a new micro SIM card, I guess there are some ways to trim down a normal card so that it works. Seemed easier to just go down to the store and get a new one and handle the activation in one stop.
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When you got the SIM, did you give them your I9505G IMEI number or do they think you still have your old phone?
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When you got the SIM, did you give them your I9505G IMEI number or do they think you still have your old phone?
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I gave them the new IMEI number.
After your two year contract is up, and you unlock your phone, do they turn off LTE? No. Plenty of people bring LTE capable phones to att network. If there is a problem. Make a phone call. They want your money more than they want a lost customer.
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After your two year contract is up, and you unlock your phone, do they turn off LTE? No. Plenty of people bring LTE capable phones to att network. If there is a problem. Make a phone call. They want your money more than they want a lost customer.
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I understand that, but when it comes to unlocked devices that AT&T doesn't sell or support, like Nexus devices and, in this case, and I9505G, they sometimes have incorrect information about the phone's capabilities in their IMEI database. That it can lead to problems. But IrishPadres said he gave them the new IMEI and he still had LTE so that answers my entire question. That means that, even though they don't sell the I9505G, they still see it as an LTE capable device. :thumbup:
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I just popped my SIM in and was fine. Never called ATT. I was already provisioned for LTE etc. You will only need to worry if you currently do not have a ATT account provisioned for LTE and a SIM. If you need to get a new account and SIM you may need to let them know the IMEI.
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I swapped my sim out of my crappy iPhone 5 with a sim card adapter and no issues ever.
is there going to be an international version of this phone ? i'd love to get one but ordering from the US to use in saudi arabia entails the risk of getting a -very nice- paperweight.
i mailed sharp but so far no reply.
You can think of it as a cheaper and cooler iPod Touch.
Some of the pictures show it has a nanoSIM slot, despite being a CDMA phone. Anyone knows if it works on GSM networks?
If anything, the SIM card is for LTE.
I have the LG Optimus F3 on Virgin and it has a micro SIM card. There was a card included in the instructions that said it has something to do with LTE and is necessary to put it. I don't have it with me, or at all, to post what is exactly says.
It must be a recent thing since I owned the Galaxy Victory (****ty phone compared to the F3) for a year before the F3 and it did not have a SIM slot of any sort.
My sister owns the LG Volt on Virgin and it too has a SIM card.
Nope, tested, the nano sim slot doesnt recognise gsm sim cards, and being CDMA devices, the models from the US carriers are unusable in Europe. The only model that might be available for usage in the near future is the one from Softbank (Tokyo) which is a GSM model, but unfortunately no one has a clue if or when there will be available unlock or root at this point. Looking forward to get my hands on one thou
did someone try the cdma usim card ? will it work?
Kwell since no gsm how do we get this thing into diag for flashing to pageplus
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the sim card is for lte not gsm diff freqencies
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