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Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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I just came across this post and wanted to say THANKS. I was looking for exactly this information recently and you are so right, it is very difficult to find. So thanks for putting this up. I Guess I'm still not clear why you need a 5 to 11 adapter. Is the Note 2 micro USB either 5 or 11? And the power cable that comes with it, is it also either? But the HDMI powered unit requires 11 plus a plug in to power some power source. Rather confusing. Seems like Samsung didn't put the engineering time into this that they did into the Note 2 itself, which is an amazing piece of engineering. But this whole HDMI solution is rather clumsy IMO.
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I just came across this post and wanted to say THANKS. I was looking for exactly this information recently and you are so right, it is very difficult to find. So thanks for putting this up. I Guess I'm still not clear why you need a 5 to 11 adapter. Is the Note 2 micro USB either 5 or 11? And the power cable that comes with it, is it also either? But the HDMI powered unit requires 11 plus a plug in to power some power source. Rather confusing. Seems like Samsung didn't put the engineering time into this that they did into the Note 2 itself, which is an amazing piece of engineering. But this whole HDMI solution is rather clumsy IMO.
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Also a big thanks to OP for sharing. will be linking to this.
From my research (research doesn't = im right. Only confident) the Note II is an 11 pin micro usb. To achieve the best performance and functionality OTG and other adapters are best when 11 pin micro to whatever your going to. This means if you use a 5 to 11 conversion your only using a few available pins for a specific purpose. Essentially the Note II smart hub is taking advantage of the extra pin set on the 11pin micro that allows for in, out and multiple usb connections. The only thing it wont do is voltage out but that probably a good thing.
EPL-3FHUBEGSTA HDTV Universal Adapter (11PIN)
That is a direct 11 pin micro to HDMI from what I can tell . Sometimes voltage is used via HDMI to carry signal and smart control. I believe this is setup specific since some of the newer equipment doesn't rely on the extra juice. So in this case the need for a power supply is situational but not required 100% of the time. I would guess that its a good idea to use it when available though unless strictly not advised by a TV manufacture. The feed rating is usually in the user manual of your TV in the input details. Or simply ask the manufacture directly. Im sure a video/audio enthusiast has much more accurate data on voltages and HDMI so I wouldn't take any of this to heart until someone more official confirms or corrects this info.
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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I have an amkette 7 port usb hub powered by a 5 volt 2 amp charger. So if I connect the 11 pin mhl adapter to the note 2 and connect the supplied usb charger to one of the port, and plug in to the mhl hdmi adapter, I think it ought to work. Now my other query is if I plug in a few pen drives or hard drives, will it be detected?
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Manipur said:
I have an amkette 7 port usb hub powered by a 5 volt 2 amp charger. So if I connect the 11 pin mhl adapter to the note 2 and connect the supplied usb charger to one of the port, and plug in to the mhl hdmi adapter, I think it ought to work. Now my other query is if I plug in a few pen drives or hard drives, will it be detected?
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Unfortunately it isn't that simple. On the Note 2 and GS3 it's looking for a specific resistance value to determine if a MHL device or OTG adapter is plugged in. I'd you want to do both that's a smart hub. I'm midway threw my hack project of this now. It has been done already but using a 11 pin to 5 pin adapter hacking that then strapping a 41.2k resistor on it and some soldering. Let the usb hub do the powering and your good.
My version is just more complicated version of the above so not going to go in to it till its done
I made the mistake of buying the MHL HDMI 5 pin adapter that came with the 5 to 11 pin converter (ETC-EIA2BEGSTA)
I couldn't get it to work. Even with the 5 to 11 pin converter it wouldn't work? It would be a $40 waste of it doesn't.
Ron
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thanks dude thats what Im looking for.
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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Thanks for that advice - much appreciated. Now to take my 5-pin device back to Jaycar and look for an 11-pin version.
Cab121 said:
Unfortunately it isn't that simple. On the Note 2 and GS3 it's looking for a specific resistance value to determine if a MHL device or OTG adapter is plugged in. I'd you want to do both that's a smart hub. I'm midway threw my hack project of this now. It has been done already but using a 11 pin to 5 pin adapter hacking that then strapping a 41.2k resistor on it and some soldering. Let the usb hub do the powering and your good.
My version is just more complicated version of the above so not going to go in to it till its done
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How is it going with your project?
I'm really curious if it is possible to connect a TV, a keyboard and mouse "the cheap" way, without either buying a (in my opinion) very expensive smart dock, or bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Cab121 said:
Unfortunately it isn't that simple. On the Note 2 and GS3 it's looking for a specific resistance value to determine if a MHL device or OTG adapter is plugged in. I'd you want to do both that's a smart hub. I'm midway threw my hack project of this now. It has been done already but using a 11 pin to 5 pin adapter hacking that then strapping a 41.2k resistor on it and some soldering. Let the usb hub do the powering and your good.
My version is just more complicated version of the above so not going to go in to it till its done
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I am also following the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142357. But as you said, they use an 11 to 5 pin converter. I also do not want to use that (although it works and in last case, I´d rather that than the U$99 smart dock). So, if you have the specs I also wanna build one. Please post here you journey.
About the 5 and 11 ping controversy, I found this helpfull: http://www.galaxymhl.com/
So I've got this 5 pin MHL adapter for my SGS2 here.. I found a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter on ebay which I ordered. Will it work with my old MHL adapter on the note 2?
Menvaihelv... said:
So I've got this 5 pin MHL adapter for my SGS2 here.. I found a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter on ebay which I ordered. Will it work with my old MHL adapter on the note 2?
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I bought the 5 pin MHL with the 11 pin adaptor from Samsung and it didn't work for me
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I have this adapter that I purchased for my gs3 and it works fine with my note 2 as well. I watched a movie the other day with my kids using the adapter on my tv.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089VO86Y/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Manipur said:
I have an amkette 7 port usb hub powered by a 5 volt 2 amp charger. So if I connect the 11 pin mhl adapter to the note 2 and connect the supplied usb charger to one of the port, and plug in to the mhl hdmi adapter, I think it ought to work. Now my other query is if I plug in a few pen drives or hard drives, will it be detected?
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How do you connect the 11 pin MHL adaptor (HDMI out) to a 7-port USB Hub? Can you share your setup?
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Menvaihelv... said:
So I've got this 5 pin MHL adapter for my SGS2 here.. I found a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter on ebay which I ordered. Will it work with my old MHL adapter on the note 2?
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I have bought a 11-pin to 5-pin adaptor and it works. It save me from buying another MHL adaptor for S3/Note2.
Thanks for the info
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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Thanks !. I had looked for these info for a long time to choose the right MHL adapter for my GN2.
So I chose the official S3/GN2 MHL adapter and it works fine.
Note that the new GS4 adapter seems to be compatible with the S3/GN2, even if the new capabilities of MHL v2.0 standard are not usable on the GN2. So it's probably a good idea to go for that new one (same price), in case you plan to change for a GS4 (or a GN3 ?)
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
I am also interested in a split cable (USB OTG on 1 side and MHL on the other), which would be more practical than the big smart dock (that I have bought too )
I have solved my problem. My phone is a phone now and for my tv I have bought a Mk809 iii android tv stick. It supports all my hard drives even the ntfs ones. It plays everything. Now, if I can only find a way to root it...
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Hello,
I am also looking for a similar smart dock with USB-OTG, Charging and HDMI output for my potential buying of Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. I believe this tablet does offer the same via standard 11-pin micro USB connector (instead of the propreitary Samsung connector used in earlier models). Please see my thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566345
I was able to find a couple of smart docks, which are adverstised to work with GNII/III and Galaxy S3/S4, all of which I believe do have the 11-pin micro USB MHL connector. Please have a look at the following
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Multimedia-Dock-HDMI-USB-Dock-Station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-Galaxy-S4-I9500-S3/1439104485.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-High-Quality-HDMI-Smart-Multimedia-Dock-Charger-Station-Cradle-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-II/1405399957.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multimedia-Dock-station-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-2-N7100-S3-S4-with-audio-out-and/1422156460.html
All of them are advertised to do all the functions simultaneously at the same time , that is "OTG + HDMI + Charging".
So based on the collective knowledge of the members on this thread, I need to know
1. Does any of you have tried this or a similar dock and found all functions to be working simultaneously and satisfactorily.
2. By a long shot, since S3/S4 also have an 11pin micro USB connector, have any of you tried or can comment on whether this dock would work with a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet. Theoretically and technically , i think it should but need your advice.
Thanks for reading and your feedback.
Important info
Lucidmike said:
Just wanted to share what I learned yesterday and thought it could save people some time looking this up.
The Galaxy Note 2 supports both 11-pin and 5-pin micro USB connectors.
The USB OTG (On-The-Go) adapters only come in 5-pin, and works fine with the Galaxy Note 2.
I connected the OTG adapter to a USB hub, which was fine, and 2 different devices worked fine independently, but not both at the same time. My guess is, it is a power limitation that the Galaxy Note 2 provides through the micro USB jack.
If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2.
The HDTV adapter comes with a micro USB jack (5-pin), but although you may think it is a great idea to plug an OTG cable in there, it doesn't work that way. You MUST plug in your power cable. Why it was hard for me to find this info on the net or a youtube, I'm not sure. I guess I should have read the manual, but I think was more of a design thing. You wouldn't read a manual on how to plug in cables for plugging in HDMI cables and micro USB would you?
I can only get 1080i working at 60Hz even though I know for sure my monitor does 1080p. If someone can get it working with 1080p I would like to know how smooth it is. [email protected] is actually pretty smooth (I think 60 fps). Maybe I should have waited for the Galaxy Note II MHL connector? This is gonna bug me until someone chimes in.
Only putting this information out there because some of this wasn't too obvious, and maybe it will save you time. I also did a review for the OTG cable for the Galaxy Note 2, and another review for the OEM MHL HDMI HDTV adapter connected to a Galaxy Note 2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958511
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So Finally I got what I was looking for on internet. I was really disappointed for not finding a clear technical explanation for the new micro usb pin configuration of samsung devices, and its relation with MHL adapters and micro usb converters.
Just to make some points clear:
Note2, Note3, S3, S4 devices are all have 11-pin micro usb output, which means if you have an old MHL Adapter with 5-pin micro usb you should use a 11-pin - to - 5-pin adapter,
otherwise if you have MHL 1.0 (designed for s3 - 24Mhz refresh rate) OR MHL 2.0 (designed for s4 - 60Mhz refresh rate) you don't need pin converters.
For other samsung devices (Note1, S2, ....)supporting MHL feature but having 5-pin micro usb output, you can either use a compatible 5 pin MHL adapter (old versions...) without need of any pin converter, OR buy (MHL 1.0, MHL 2.0) and use 5-pin - to - 11-pin converter.
Summary
11-pin devices
S3,S4,Note2,Note3 <=> 11pin micro usb
MHL 1.0, MHL 2.0 <=> 11 pin micro usb
5-pin devices
S2, Note1, ... <=> 5 pin
Old MHL adapters <=> 5 pin
Mix and match between those two different pin configurations you need to use converter from 5 - 11 or 11 - 5
source of information
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
Sorry for bringing this post back from the dead...
But...
So I'm already aware of needing the converter for the 5to11 or 11to5 pin in regards to the MHL adapter. My question - is there any benefit to having an 11-pin micro USB cord (as in, should I begin to purchase 11-pin [if available] micro USB cords for all my devices to obtain such benefits [data, charging speed, etc...] or is the 11-pin fad only with Samsung and it's purpose is geared towards data transfer and the MHL adapter?
I'm a little confused on the matter.
-SlyG07
Anyone know if the note 3 will support usb to hdmi. With all the power of new phone kind of wanted to try on the big screen with some emulators for old school games. I wanted to buy one now so I can have it ready when i get my note . (unless anyone know about chromecast going 100% local content very soon)
With the new usb3.0 on note 3 we will not know unless Samsung confirms if the old ones will work until someone gets the phone And tries ... sad but true
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I saw MHL 2.0 somewhere
IamPro said:
I saw MHL 2.0 somewhere
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Correct. Worked with my Samsung MHL 2.0 cable (at 60Hz) and the Smart Dock. Was relieved that it still works with the Smart Dock, even though 60Hz via MHL 2.0 is preferable.
Anyone else ordered one of these. Can't wait till mine arrives.. 1080p in 8 inch's
NickFritz said:
Anyone else ordered one of these. Can't wait till mine arrives.. 1080p in 8 inch's
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Yeah I did about a week ago. Patiently waiting. Doesn't look like I will see it until March.
fujitsujeff said:
Yeah I did about a week ago. Patiently waiting. Doesn't look like I will see it until March.
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Why March?
Mine says Shipping 11 Feb
Did they push back the date?
NickFritz said:
Why March?
Mine says Shipping 11 Feb
Did they push back the date?
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When did you order yours and what model? Are you in the US? Mine says delivery in March too and I ordered on the 29th.
Snusmumriken said:
When did you order yours and what model? Are you in the US? Mine says delivery in March too and I ordered on the 29th.
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My delivery date says 11 Feb 2014
But I'm in Australia
Ordered on the 30th
NickFritz said:
My delivery date says 11 Feb 2014
But I'm in Australia
Ordered on the 30th
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What's your current status? Mine says Released to manufacturing.
Snusmumriken said:
What's your current status? Mine says Released to manufacturing.
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Mine just says Order Received
Lenovo has lowered the price now to $379. I have asked if they will charge my card with the new price or if the old price stays..
Can you charge and mount USB at the same time with this thing?
The realization that there's only one USB port on this device made me wonder if it shared this limitation, and from what I've read, it does. Can anybody confirm this? I can't settle for rumors and stringing together nebulous conjectures. Once they appear in my local Best Buy/MicroCenter I'll be testing this myself, of course.
If anybody's got it, I'd really like to know that. That's kind of the deal-breaker for me. It was the biggest reason I didn't get the Venue 8 Pro (that, and lack of reliable video-out). I don't mind carrying a host cable around with me everywhere either, or the spare battery... or even a tiny USB hub. I just want to know that I can use USB and charge at the same time so I can have a very mobile "desktop" experience wherever I decide to bust out my tablet. No more damn Chromecast bugginess, no more damn finnicky MHL connectors.
I know that the Venue 8 Pro simply cannot do two at the same time; I tested this fact in the store by connecting a host cable, a power source (2.1amp rav power backup battery) and a USB thumb drive. Mounts just fine with a USB OTG cable, but will just not mount and charge at the same time.
Ryou_Concord said:
Can you charge and mount USB at the same time with this thing?
The realization that there's only one USB port on this device made me wonder if it shared this limitation, and from what I've read, it does. Can anybody confirm this? I can't settle for rumors and stringing together nebulous conjectures. Once they appear in my local Best Buy/MicroCenter I'll be testing this myself, of course.
If anybody's got it, I'd really like to know that. That's kind of the deal-breaker for me. It was the biggest reason I didn't get the Venue 8 Pro (that, and lack of reliable video-out). I don't mind carrying a host cable around with me everywhere either, or the spare battery... or even a tiny USB hub. I just want to know that I can use USB and charge at the same time so I can have a very mobile "desktop" experience wherever I decide to bust out my tablet. No more damn Chromecast bugginess, no more damn finnicky MHL connectors.
I know that the Venue 8 Pro simply cannot do two at the same time; I tested this fact in the store by connecting a host cable, a power source (2.1amp rav power backup battery) and a USB thumb drive. Mounts just fine with a USB OTG cable, but will just not mount and charge at the same time.
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Very few devices can. Most USB Hubs cannot backfeed power, so you cannot use USB host adapters to a powered USB hub to charge the tablet most of the time, regardless of if it actually supports charging while in host mode, there is a raspberry pi compatibility list which lists a few hubs which can or cannot backfeed power (the pi can be backpowered via its USB host ports but this is not recommended and can conflict with other inputs). Most tablets though require the D+ and D- wires in the USB connector to be shorted together to enter charging mode, otherwise they will only trickle charge (or not at all), with D+ and D- shorted you cannot transmit data. Turns it into a case of data or power only.
Frankly, you want the desktop experience, yet are purchasing something running 32 bit windows on an intel atom wih 2gb of RAM and either 32 or 64gb of eMMC storage. I think an i5 device would probably be more up your street, most of them have separate power supplies and USB host ports.
NickFritz said:
My delivery date says 11 Feb 2014
But I'm in Australia
Ordered on the 30th
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Hello again, did you receive the tablet on the 11th? Would love to hear some first impressions. I am in particular interested in finding out how the cover works as a stand and if you can have it standing both horizontally and in portrait.
Thanks
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Very few devices can. Most USB Hubs cannot backfeed power, so you cannot use USB host adapters to a powered USB hub to charge the tablet most of the time, regardless of if it actually supports charging while in host mode, there is a raspberry pi compatibility list which lists a few hubs which can or cannot backfeed power (the pi can be backpowered via its USB host ports but this is not recommended and can conflict with other inputs). Most tablets though require the D+ and D- wires in the USB connector to be shorted together to enter charging mode, otherwise they will only trickle charge (or not at all), with D+ and D- shorted you cannot transmit data. Turns it into a case of data or power only.
Frankly, you want the desktop experience, yet are purchasing something running 32 bit windows on an intel atom wih 2gb of RAM and either 32 or 64gb of eMMC storage. I think an i5 device would probably be more up your street, most of them have separate power supplies and USB host ports.
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Are you sure? Other lenovo 8 tab can be powered with USB hub and lenovo charger hooked up to it..so you can charge and use USB dongles at same time ..check tablet pc review forum.i hope we can do che same thing with thinkpad 8..
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gaetanolip said:
Are you sure? Other lenovo 8 tab can be powered with USB hub and lenovo charger hooked up to it..so you can charge and use USB dongles at same time ..check tablet pc review forum.i hope we can do che same thing with thinkpad 8..
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If you are referring to the thinkpad 2 10" tablet, that used a microUSB for charging and had a seperate full size USB host port (the micro USB was not host capable). The dell venue and lenovo thinkpad 8 both use microUSB for combined charge and host.
If the power and USB host ports are seperate then there is no issue. The issue arises when its a combined port which is what most of the atom tablets are opting for.
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If you are referring to the thinkpad 2 10" tablet, that used a microUSB for charging and had a seperate full size USB host port (the micro USB was not host capable). The dell venue and lenovo thinkpad 8 both use microUSB for combined charge and host.
If the power and USB host ports are seperate then there is no issue. The issue arises when its a combined port which is what most of the atom tablets are opting for.
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no.
i am referringto thi http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/lenovo-ibm/59355-comparison-lenovo-miix2-vs-dell-venue-8-pro-7.html
i hope it will be the same with thinnkpad 8
Evel dell 8 can charge and read a usb pheriperal at the same time , but i needs a mod with the hub..
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no.
i am referringto thi http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/lenovo-ibm/59355-comparison-lenovo-miix2-vs-dell-venue-8-pro-7.html
i hope it will be the same with thinnkpad 8
Evel dell 8 can charge and read a usb pheriperal at the same time , but i needs a mod with the hub..
Please don't do misinformation
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Needs an internal mod to trickle charge at a mere 100mA. I already said it will only trickle charge.
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Needs an internal mod to trickle charge at a mere 100mA. I already said it will only trickle charge.
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Lenovo Miix2 does not need usb hub mod and you can charge and use usb dongles at the same time
dell venue does need usb hub mod and you can charge and use usb dongles at the same time
that's it
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Expected delivery 21st
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Played with mine on the weekend.
The cover works as a stand pretty well. As long as the surface inst too slippery you can put the stand on slightly different angles too.
It also is strong enough to work on vertical too.
NickFritz said:
Played with mine on the weekend.
The cover works as a stand pretty well. As long as the surface inst too slippery you can put the stand on slightly different angles too.
It also is strong enough to work on vertical too.
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What do you use it for? I'm considering selling my 8 inch LG G Pad for an 8 inch Windows 8 tab. I'm contemplating this or a refurbished Surface Pro for about the same price. Just wondering if Bay Trail is really a lot better than Clover trail. I had a ThinkPad Tablet 2 and it was God awful.
I got mine on the 11th. It's been fun ever since. I can't believe I like Win 8 as much as I do. I'm still looking for a BT keyboard and a case... Like always it's slim pickins...
Hey guys I have a Samsung TV with an USB connection behind of it but when I connect my gs4 to the TV it only charges, is there a way to read the files on my phone, music etc so it can be played on my TV through the USB?
make sure you have mtp enabled. other than that, if you have a compatible tv you should also be able to use screen mirroring to display pictures and videos and so on.
Wont an HDMI cable be good enough for the same?
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No cause I don't have one I only have a USB cable and hdmi cables doesn't sell anywhere near me
dorian2kx said:
No cause I don't have one I only have a USB cable and hdmi cables doesn't sell anywhere near me
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After the 4.4.2 upgrade the mass storage access was limited by samsung.
Only an HDMI cable or syncing your phone with the tv via screen sharing can help.
You can buy a HDMI cable from ebay or amazon? That wont be difficult. They sell worldwide
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I'm looking for an adaptor that I can use on my Tab S7+ with my existing 3.5mm headphones but still charge at the same time (thinking of long flights).
Having a look online, it looks like some USB-C to 3.5mmm adaptors don't work on all devices and not all charger adaptors are equal. Can anyone advise me on a suitable adaptor?
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I'm looking for an adaptor that I can use on my Tab S7+ with my existing 3.5mm headphones but still charge at the same time (thinking of long flights).
Having a look online, it looks like some USB-C to 3.5mmm adaptors don't work on all devices and not all charger adaptors are equal. Can anyone advise me on a suitable adaptor?
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Apple usb-c to 3.5mm. it is best value for the cost. <$10 on amazon. It works like DAC, digital to audio converter that cost much more by any other company. If the sound matters, get it and then. If you want to charge, purchase a usb-c hub that gives you power and the other stuff you might want like hdmi out and additional usb c ports.
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Apple usb-c to 3.5mm. it is best value for the cost. <$10 on amazon. It works like DAC, digital to audio converter that cost much more by any other company. If the sound matters, get it and then. If you want to charge, purchase a usb-c hub that gives you power and the other stuff you might want like hdmi out and additional usb
Is it working for sure? Please help me.
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smartymcfly said:
Apple usb-c to 3.5mm. it is best value for the cost. <$10 on amazon. It works like DAC, digital to audio converter that cost much more by any other company. If the sound matters, get it and then. If you want to charge, purchase a usb-c hub that gives you power and the other stuff you might want like hdmi out and additional usb
Is it working for sure? Please help me.
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joecaesar said:
Help you with what?
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Does it work with tab s7?
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I wanted to be able to charge at the same time (thinking of that wonderful time when we can take long flights again)
This looks like a good choice. It states that it works with the S20 and Note 20 Ultra. Does this mean that it will work with Tab S7+
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product...&pf_rd_p=e632fea2-678f-4848-9a97-bcecda59cb4e
CableCreation USB-C to 3.5mm adapter
I just ordered a CableCreation branded one that works and sounds great. It also has a passthrough for power. The fit and finish is pretty stellar as well.
Search Amazon for "CableCreation 2-in-1 USB C Type-C to Hi-Res 3.5mm Audio"
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smartymcfly said:
Apple usb-c to 3.5mm. it is best value for the cost. <$10 on amazon. It works like DAC, digital to audio converter that cost much more by any other company. If the sound matters, get it and then. If you want to charge, purchase a usb-c hub that gives you power and the other stuff you might want like hdmi out and additional usb
Is it working for sure? Please help me.
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joecaesar said:
smartymcfly said:
Does it work with tab s7?
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This works with tab s7+
I have usb-c dock block, and it work with the apple usb-c dac and hdmi out to the tv and it charges at the same time when it is also connected to power source.
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old school hyperdrive
if you want it all... check out the hyperdrive:
https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-6-in-1-hub-for-ipad?variant=19332717412414
i picked this up on the kickstarter campaign when it first came on the scene. i was using the ipad pro then.
i forgot i had this thing until the thread reminded me of it.
it has all you need. hdmi, SD card, microsd, hdmi, type c with pd charging, 3.5mm jack, usb... the who ball of wax. worth the coin.
It actually not really matters which adapter you buy - as long it includes a DAC.
I got these two (all < 15 €):
JSAUX USB-C Headphone Adapter and Charging
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B08B3MY35T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
ESR USB-C to 3.5mm Headphone Adapter
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B089GVWNF2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
both work well. And the cable is rather good quality - so a bit hard to bend. That's fine, as some years a ago the first I bought failed after 1 month of usage due to the cable.
I bought them as they where the cheapest of all options and the review told they have solid cables.
Also a rather old one I bought 3 years ago works (do not know the brand, sorry).
But: you need one with a DAC - I bought some very cheap from china without, and: no audio.
The first one offers simultaneously charging, but is bigger in size. And I do not hear any white noise, though some user review report so. Might also depend on the head phones you are using? Also: a DAC requires battery. So: unplug them if not needed.
Now: I only need a cheap but worthy hub. The only I found interesting so far offers no headphone jack...
The other (link) below did the job but was not fitting.
Maxonar USB C Hub for iPad Pro 2018 Type C 6 in 1 Hub with USB 3.0 (5 Gbps)
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B07VMK7GTT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I liked the fact to have an usb-a, charging+data usb-c, audio, and hdmi port. However, all other option either are reported to wobble. So any suggestion is highly appreciated.
BTW: I own the tab s7, but this should not matter. Both should work with the s7+ as well.