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[Q] Should i get the Tab 7.7....or wait for the nexus tablet?

I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?

Well the GPS is topnoch, I havent had any problems with celldata or wifi, overall HC
isent that bad. In all I got to say the hardware kicks ass on stock HC and if ICS is an improvement thats a big extra!
Yup I like the 7.7, nice unit.

the nexus tablet is likely to be in the 200-250 range, while the 7.7 is around 500...the biggest reason to get the 7.7 is the super amoled plus screen. if you don't care about the screen quality, i would go with the google tablet.

I'm on the fence as well. Heard rumors that the Nexus won't have 3G. I'll gladly get a Galaxy Tab then.
Can't tell for sure until the Nexus is officially unveiled.

I'd wait.
Even of the nexus hasn't got 3g what it will do is quickly drive down android tablet costs. If Google push a nexus device (nexus phones are pushed as being the pinnacle of Android design) for 200 then Samsung and everyone else will have difficulty keeping a 100%+ premium over it.
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I would wait for Android tablets to catch up with the iPad3 dpi before buying, which I hope will begin to happen with the next generation of premium Android tablets.

MdSaif said:
I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?
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I am married to SAMOLED+, a wacom digitizer, and screen casting capabilities. So far the only device to satisfy all three has been the samsung galaxy note. But this screen is just SO much larger, it was worth the extra real estate. This is the first really operable digital sketchpad, i'd say over the ipad(screen quality) and the gNote(size). It is imperfect only in thst it lacks a wacom digitizer in my opinion.
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Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol

Ive thought about the micro sd and don't see it as an issue as long as there is an sd card/usb host adapter, then on long journeys we can still have movies etc on that
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What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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billytkid said:
Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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How is the 7.7 a "dead platform"? There will be an ICS update some time this summer, and the hardware will be superior to the Nexus in most ways.

adinis78 said:
What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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At a supposed price of $200 i doubt it will be a superior item, i understand the Nexus is a top line (Nexus phones) i dont see at this price what it can try and compete with. The Kindle? Maybe. The Ipad, not in a million years.
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The leaked specs for the Nexus 7 look decent enough and handily seem to wipe the floor with the kindle fire. I doubt i'll just give up this beautiful 7.7 without evaluating things anyways. And who mentioned an iPad? I could give 2 ****es about the iPad ;p

For those interested or wanting a nexus tablet read this:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3120884/google-nexus-7-first-image-leak
All it is, is a Kindle and Nook competitor. I'll stick with my 7.7 and i would recommed getting 7.7 (international vertion 3g+wifi)
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Well now that the specs are out, I'm still happy with my last week purchase of the GT 7.7. I can increase storage and have a better screen. Only outspecced by BT 4 on the Nexus 7, if it has BT 4.
Plus I have to say comparing the Exynos of the GT 7.7 to the Tegra3 of the Transformer Prime, it feels snappier than the Prime, and that is on 3.2 HC! Cant wait for ICS (or hopefully much rather JB!) on it.
Haven't tried gaming on th GT 7.7 though.

Maybe it is just in the videos I've seen but does the screen rotate to landscape mode or is it stuck in portrait?

Here's my take on the two tablets.
1. Memory
I think the lack of micro SD slot on the Nexus is a big disadvantage compared to the Sammy 7.7. You can pick up 64gb micro SD cards now for $60-80. Depending on your main uses, 16gb (or worse still 8gb) can be very limiting if you throw on some music and some 720p videos, let alone games.
I have the HDMI dongle for the Sammy and can output 1080p to a TV which is great when traveling.
2. Camera
The Nexus also appears to miss out on a rear-facing camera (not a big deal imo but another point of difference).
3. Battery
Samsung battery appears to be almost 18% bigger (5100mah v 4325mah).
4. Form factor
The form factor of the Nexus would seem to be not quite as slick as the 7.7:
Nexus 7: 198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm
Samsung 7.7: 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm
Weight appears to be same (or thereabouts).
With a smaller screen and less features, I would have thought that the Nexus could have been a bit trimmer.
5. Software
On the other hand we probably won't see Jelly Bean on the Samsung for another year, if at all.
Jelly Bean supposedly has Project Butter enhancements to make the OS smoother and slicker, however given the performance of the S2 on ICS I think I'd be relatively happy with ICS on the 7.7.
Overall I don't really see the need for a quad core processor when the dual core is still perfectly capable. I'm not prepared to compromise on the above factors for the processor alone, the benefits of which are debatable given how much better the Exynos architecture seems to be.
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I forgot to add that whilst I wouldn't give up my 7.7, the introduction of the Nexus 7 can only be a good thing as it will raise awareness of Android tablets and lower the barrier to entry, ie. cost, effectively bringing Android to the masses by a respected vendor.
More competition = better products.

Gilbot said:
I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol
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None Nexus device have SD card slot yet...
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4.1 Jelly Bean Google i/o

Just watched the conference and the new nexus 7 seems pretty fantastic, listed with these specs that im very interested in
Tegra 3 Quadcore 4+1 SOC
1gb of ram
1280x800 ips screen
android 4.1 jelly bean
1.2 mega pixel front facing cam
paired with the fact its created by ASUS, and it is a Nexus device, means that this is now Googles new tablet Reference, pretty much any app that wants to work well on Google tablets has to work on this, this is VERY good news for us, as our tablet pretty much match the nexus' reference design spec for spec, im super excited to see what comes of this, hoping for some highly functional jelly bean ports soon
(i know the nexus includes things like NFC and such, but im not super hyped about that as we dont have it on out lovely tf300's )

Ive mentioned this elsewhere but HOW is this SO cheap compared to the transformer 300?!? The specs are the same, it has some extra features and costs less than half the price! I get that it is smaller, in both size and capacity but it seems very very cheap
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TF300T is better, for sure.
I like 10" screen and 32gb default.

KindaUndisputed said:
Ive mentioned this elsewhere but HOW is this SO cheap compared to the transformer 300?!? The specs are the same, it has some extra features and costs less than half the price! I get that it is smaller, in both size and capacity but it seems very very cheap
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It's certainly not less than half the price. The Nexus 7 16GB is $249.99 and the TF300T 16GB is $379.99. There is a cheaper 8GB version for $199.99, but that's still not less than half of $379.99. While the Nexus 7 has some extra features like NFC, it is missing other features found in the 300, like a rear-facing camera and Micro SD slot.

Cyclone999 said:
It's certainly not less than half the price. The Nexus 7 16GB is $249.99 and the TF300T 16GB is $379.99. There is a cheaper 8GB version for $199.99, but that's still not less than half of $379.99. While the Nexus 7 has some extra features like NFC, it is missing other features found in the 300, like a rear-facing camera and Micro SD slot.
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My mistake, i was basing it on UK pricing which is £400 for the transformer with dock. It still seems much much cheaper though. Similar hardware and i dont see how a micro SD slot or storage space takes away around £200!
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No HDMI port
No rear facing camera
No SD card interface
I don't use the HDMI port often, but I do use the rear facing camera. I like the SD card slot.
NFC - Not sure about that technology, I have no use for it currently, but if you're going to be taking your tablet out on the town alot I guess it could be useful - but it seems to me if you are taking your tablet out of the house you'd want a rear facing camera, or a way to transfer the image to the tablet (SD card slot)? Also wouldn't you want to scan UPCs?

Judging that the nexus tablet and this have very similar hardware, will that mean that we will get similar updates that the nexus tablet would receive?
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Prices of devices like the Nook, Fire, and Nexus are kept low because the related sellers anticipate making money off of the related app stores, be it Barnes and Noble, Amazon, or Google.
Nexus looks great. Still very happy with my TF300. I had the original Nook Color before. It was okay, but I wanted a larger screen and a keyboard. It makes for an entirely different experience.

I just hope we receive the JELLY BEAN update promptly...
Asus Transformer TF300 it's great but I think the Tegra 3 need more work, as it's very powerful on paper but I get lag sometimes whereas I shouldn't.
I hope Google engineers will polish JELLY BEAN up to a point where it will use all of Tegra 3 power.

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I just hope we receive the JELLY BEAN update promptly...
Asus Transformer TF300 it's great but I think the Tegra 3 need more work, as it's very powerful on paper but I get lag sometimes whereas I shouldn't.
I hope Google engineers will polish JELLY BEAN up to a point where it will use all of Tegra 3 power.
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Agree wholeheartedly. Project Butter to the rescue! :victory:

I can't imagine that this will take long at all to upgrade to 4.1. It's made by the same company that made the nexus so all the staff has had plenty of time to get it ready. The only thing that would make this take a while is their skin. However they have a very minimal and actually useful skin. Love the performance toggle. I see this out probably in less than a month. Plus it always helps to not have to deal with the carriers that phones and 4G tablets have to deal with.

Don't forget it's also using a different version of Tegra 3, they're not all the same. The TF Pad Infinity also uses a different versions, there's at least three I think. That bundled with the lack of a front facing camera and compatibility with a keyboard dock is probably what lowered the price. Still, there's no need for buyers remorse lol.
I just hope we get timely updates for 4.1, that's why I bought an ASUS tablet lol. They've had a good track record so far so lets hope they keep it up.

this tablet also has corning gorilla glass. and the TF300 does not. :good:

I am certain that we will get Jellybean very likely from ASUS, but if not from CM or other custom rom developers. ASUS has been really good with OTAs in the past so I don't know why they would stop now.
Personally I don't know that I have a use for NFC and I like the size of the TF300 plus the rear facing camera is very nice. Its also nice to have a micro sd card slot for the expanded storage. I am happy with my TF300 and look forward to running some Jellybean goodness in the near future.

Peahnuts said:
Don't forget it's also using a different version of Tegra 3, they're not all the same. The TF Pad Infinity also uses a different versions, there's at least three I think. That bundled with the lack of a front facing camera and compatibility with a keyboard dock is probably what lowered the price. Still, there's no need for buyers remorse lol.
I just hope we get timely updates for 4.1, that's why I bought an ASUS tablet lol. They've had a good track record so far so lets hope they keep it up.
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I believe the only difference is the type of memory controller (ddr2 or 3) and speed on board
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I am certain that we will get Jellybean very likely from ASUS, but if not from CM or other custom rom developers. ASUS has been really good with OTAs in the past so I don't know why they would stop now.
Personally I don't know that I have a use for NFC and I like the size of the TF300 plus the rear facing camera is very nice. Its also nice to have a micro sd card slot for the expanded storage. I am happy with my TF300 and look forward to running some Jellybean goodness in the near future.
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I would buy the nexus 7 as an impulse buy, $199 that's little over an hour of work, if I could buy it over here in Holland.

Are the api's closely related, as in, could we easily port jellybean onto ics without a ton of problems like gingerbread to ics, or are we just going to have to wait?
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One of the reasons I bought the TF300 was because I knew Asus was making the Nexus tablet and the specs would be very similar but I wanted a 10 inch tablet. This is great because we should get firmware updates super fast and the development community for this should grow also. I'm really excited about this. I may buy a Nexus for my daughter that has wanted a Kindle Fire for a while.

ihope jellybean come fast to asus developer and release it fast to fix bug of the tf300

Really liked the look of Google now and the smarter voice search as well.
If only LG and other phone manufacturers would update their phones,we'd all get to use these wondrous tools regularly...I never take my tablet out while driving (unless I'm watching old Simpsons episodes). Really excited to use it on here, but if carriers and manufacturers want to sell more Android products, they need to help foster a development community on a unified OS... I'm an android/linux /windows user (own an iPod, and went iPhone, 3g, original Droid, revolution), but I do admire apple's app store and their esthetic finesse. But that all could be better with android...
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If only LG and other phone manufacturers would update their phones,we'd all get to use these wondrous tools regularly...
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How would they ever sell newer and shinier devices then?

[Q]Should i Buy a Glaxy Tab 2?

Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?

I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
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PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!

I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.

azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.

You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.

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You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!

I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.

Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.

Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.

I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).

Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??

PantechBurstOwner said:
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.

I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313

Next Tablet

So I recently had and Acer Iconia A100 die and need to replace it. Due to budget constraints I'm choosing between the Galaxy Tab 2 and the Nexus 7.
I'm familiar with the spec differences but I can't pull the trigger on one or the other. Any N7 users want to convince me? Let me know your thoughts... positive and negative...

oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is

Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.

Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.

ahandlen003 said:
Hes is right. Get the galaxy tab.
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Yet you sold yours, and now have an N7?
Hreidmar said:
Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.
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2 votes for lag on the GT2... thank you
PulseDroid said:
Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.
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Why do you say that? I've posted in both forums to try to get input from users of both. Is there anything you don't like about the N7?
superalphajellybean said:
oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is
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very helpful. Thank you

I only have some experience with playing with the Tab 2 WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
Where the Tab 2 win is the 3G version can make direct phone calls which the Nexus 7 3G can't, but it also cost more than the Nexus 7 3G. Of course, you already know it have microSD slot, back camera, and you can get an HDMI adapter, which is overpriced imo ($40) and will add to the cost of the tablet. The Nexus 7 doesn't have any form of HDMI out which sucks.
The most important factor for me is the software, and what follows might be a cliche thing you will hear in a Nexus forum. With a Nexus device you will get latest Android updates from Google and a larger developing community. As for the Tab 2, Samsung said 4.2.2 will be the last update and even with custom roms there aren't a lot of developers working on it. Despite what I said above, if the Nexus 7 only had the Tab 2 specs, and vice versa, I would still get the Nexus 7 because the benefits of AOSP, Google updates and many custom rom developers which makes a big difference in long term value.
You can also look at the Asus Memo Pad 10 if you don't mind going with a 10" tablet which is a good budget tablet. The text isn't sharp in 720p resolution on a 10" screen. However it has lots good benefits the Nexus 7 doesn't have, such as dedicated microHDMI out, USB OTG out of the box (no root needed), microSD slot, back camera, and Tegra3 chip as well. Also unlike the Transformer tablets, it have standard microUSB port. I had to return it because the digitizer on my unit went haywire and I didn't know how soon it will get CyanogenMod support.

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I only have some experience with playing with the WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
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Thanks very much for that, pretty much covers it all.
I'm really not worried about the lack of an SD card on the N7, I think I can live on 16GB. The lack of a rear camera worries me a little but I think the performance and Android support are winning me over.
Thanks again

N7 is still best value currently.
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The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.

ynrozturk said:
The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.
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Lol. He just needed our opinion on which device is better.
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Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Which tablet?
I have an Nexus 7, and i shouldn't know why it is bad. It's a fast and easy to use tablet. Very smooth. It's cheaper than the galaxy tab. But galaxy tab is not bad.... It depends on what you are planning to do with it.

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Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Funny you should say that.
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Walmart no name brand tablet!
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Buy a gameboy.
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You get what you pay for ..
IF it where not from you saying you have a very limited budget i would say with no doubt. Get a Galaxy Note . I have the nexus 7 and Note 10.1 . when im home The Nexus sits on its charger. When im out it goes with me because it fits in my purse. But lately i have been keeping the note under my arm when i go out. I love the Multi window Cascade/ Dual screen mode. You can Run up to 20 apps at one time. Most do not suspend while having another app in action such as hand writing a note on the wacom digitize r . For school or real work productivity . Price verses performance . There is not a tablet on the planet better then the Note.
Now the nexus 7 is the fastest slim sleek device for on the go use. I could never mount my note to the dash to use as a gps. It will NOT fit in my purse It uses a propritary charging port
My Conclusion is a Note 8 might be the best of both worlds. I just cant see spending the 400.00 for one when i have a awesome 7 inch Nexus 7 and a mind blowing Productive Galaxy note 10.1 ..
Maybe think about how you will pack it around .. Portability goes a very long way ..

I just sold my 8gb GT2 7" and I have a 16gb and 32gb N7. I wanted to like the Samsung more, as I usually enjoy their products and don't find Touchwiz as horrible as everyone says... BUT, the GT2 7" had to be the worst tablet I've ever used from a lag perspective. I don't know if it effects all sizes or just the 8gb but you cannot escape it. The stock rom is horribly slow and the various popular roms only help a bit. It reminded me of my old Android phones from 3 or 4 years ago in that you had to reboot it daily as it would slow down over time. My OG Samsung GTP7510 10" i/o tab is faster and a year older.
The N7 was had zero of these issues. Now saying that, the N7 has some cosmetic and power on issues that continually plague many people including me. But, when it's working it's a better tablet.
If you have the money buy a Note 8.0
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I really wanna get the transformer pad infinity. But I still love my N7!
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Nexus 9 is too expensive

The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.

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The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.

Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.

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Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?

scottharris4 said:
What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it

USBhost said:
Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.

scottharris4 said:
Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.

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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.

Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.

This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad

mk92595 said:
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.

Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9

I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
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What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?

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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.

Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!

mk92595 said:
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.

how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:

I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.

lolpok said:
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it