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I have my nook rooted with Manual Nooter for 1.2. I saw a video of a Nook rooted to run Gingerbread. I know I'll lose all BN stock files if I do the Gingerbread OS. I don't care, as long as 1) I don't brick my nook and 2) I can still use it as an ereader. The GIngerbread nook looked much more like the piece of equipment I want to own.
Questions:
1) I see things about Nightlies and I don't know what those are....is it automatic or something I have to do?
2) Are there drawbacks to doing Gingerbread instead? And where do I find files and directions on how to root it to run Ginger?
3) Can I ever return my nook to stock if I go Ginger?
4) Do apps like Netflix and HBOGo run on Gingerbread? Does the market work better?
Any and all info on this would be great.
kristiemarie said:
I have my nook rooted with Manual Nooter for 1.2. I saw a video of a Nook rooted to run Gingerbread. I know I'll lose all BN stock files if I do the Gingerbread OS. I don't care, as long as 1) I don't brick my nook and 2) I can still use it as an ereader. The GIngerbread nook looked much more like the piece of equipment I want to own.
Questions:
I see things about Nightlies and I don't know what those are....is it automatic or something I have to do?
Are there drawbacks to doing Gingerbread instead? And where do I find files and directions on how to root it to run Ginger?
Can I ever return my nook to stock if I go Ginger?
Any and all info on this would be great.
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Nightlies are released nearly every day. They are ROMS that are constantly being updated and worked on, so they have many features that the stable CM ROM may not have.
There are no drawbacks to using Gingerbread over Froyo. Battery, performance, and other things were fixed in the update. And best of all, you lose nothing from it. It's only improvement. As for the files, I've only done the initial setup once, so a more experienced member should explain how to do so.
Just flash clockworkmod to an SD card using a program called windiskimager32 (or something like that), and download the latest nightly ROM of cyanogenmod (It's the gingerbread ROM you're talking about.) and drag it to the root of the flashed sd card. When you the card in the nook it will take you to a special recovery menu. Someone else will have to give further instructions, but it is fairly simple.
I believe you can return to stock, or just run Gingerbread from a SD card and leave the stock there, but I feel that running from eMMC is more stable.
And, there is no risk of bricking, since nook runs from an SD before it boots, so you could always flash another time.
In your case, OP, I would strongly suggest you booting CM7 off the uSD but first, get the Sandisk class 2 or class 4 uSD card (4GB or 8GB or 16GB will be fine)
Why would you suggest running off SD?
So basically, I use CWM to install an update? Are they required? Or just recommended?
If you're really looking at running CM7, and new to everything, running off SD card is the easiest way to get things running, while being the least complicated. That way you have something up and running while you become more familiar with the choices out there.
You don't have to update with every nightly (though lots of people update frequently). I typically run the stables, or at least the RC, as I use this occasionally for work and need something reliable.
Best thing you can do is read, read, and read some more. If you want to get hands on experience, run off SD until you are comfortable with the ins and outs of the NC.
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If you're really looking at running CM7, and new to everything, running off SD card is the easiest way to get things running, while being the least complicated. That way you have something up and running while you become more familiar with the choices out there.
You don't have to update with every nightly (though lots of people update frequently). I typically run the stables, or at least the RC, as I use this occasionally for work and need something reliable.
Best thing you can do is read, read, and read some more. If you want to get hands on experience, run off SD until you are comfortable with the ins and outs of the NC.
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Actually running from an SD card is more complex. The only benefit being that you don't have to wipe the stock rom from emmc.
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Well, I went ahead and did it! And sucessfully, I think. I am having trouble with Netflix and Hbogo (but I knew I'd have trouble with hbo). Otherwise, I am liking it!
Thanks!!
kristiemarie said:
Well, I went ahead and did it! And sucessfully, I think. I am having trouble with Netflix and Hbogo (but I knew I'd have trouble with hbo). Otherwise, I am liking it!
Thanks!!
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I can't help you with HBO, but as for Netflix, as long as you're using the latest version it'll run on the Nook without modification. Older versions require you to modify the build.prop file... there's plenty of info around on how to do that, just google something like "netflix build.prop".
If Netflix is playing audio in fast forward... that means you need to change the build.prop.
Ok, my wife got an NC and at first she loved it, then the more she started messing around with it, the more she noticed it would freeze occasionally here and there. I suggested going the custom rom route and overclocking, but before I started the process wanted to make sure a couple of things.
1. After reading it seems like if you want to run a custom rom, it MUST be run from the sd card? Is this correct? Or is it possible to run it from the emmc?
2. After installing custom roms, will she still be able to access her library? Can she re-download the stuff she had previously? I'm not sure how all this works yet tbh, lol... (I would assume yes, but we all know what assuming does )
3. I saw something where people were install the custom rom to the sd, but still running the stock on the emmc, why?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
-Erik
burritoboy9984 said:
Ok, my wife got an NC and at first she loved it, then the more she started messing around with it, the more she noticed it would freeze occasionally here and there. I suggested going the custom rom route and overclocking, but before I started the process wanted to make sure a couple of things.
1. After reading it seems like if you want to run a custom rom, it MUST be run from the sd card? Is this correct? Or is it possible to run it from the emmc?
2. After installing custom roms, will she still be able to access her library? Can she re-download the stuff she had previously? I'm not sure how all this works yet tbh, lol... (I would assume yes, but we all know what assuming does )
3. I saw something where people were install the custom rom to the sd, but still running the stock on the emmc, why?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
-Erik
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1. False, I would reccomend running from the eemc if you won't miss the stock ui
2. I do not know as after I opened up my nook I installed cm7 to my eemc hopefully someone else can help you here
3. Eh, some people like the stock reading experience I guess. You could run stock from a SD card if you still want to keep it around.
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burritoboy9984 said:
Ok, my wife got an NC and at first she loved it, then the more she started messing around with it, the more she noticed it would freeze occasionally here and there. I suggested going the custom rom route and overclocking, but before I started the process wanted to make sure a couple of things.
1. After reading it seems like if you want to run a custom rom, it MUST be run from the sd card? Is this correct? Or is it possible to run it from the emmc?
2. After installing custom roms, will she still be able to access her library? Can she re-download the stuff she had previously? I'm not sure how all this works yet tbh, lol... (I would assume yes, but we all know what assuming does )
3. I saw something where people were install the custom rom to the sd, but still running the stock on the emmc, why?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
-Erik
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1.It's not necessary to run it in the emmc, but it is RECOMMENDED provided that you're willing to lose the STOCK ROM.
2.She can't access her library IF the custom ROM has been installed in the emmc, but if it was installed in the sd, she can. What she'll need to do is just boot the nook without the SD in it.
3.Yup. It's because theywant to retain being able to use the regular stock ROM, which of course has access to B&N's market for books and apps. But now, it's possible to install the stock ROM in the sd.
Ok, so if she wants access to her library she has to use the stock rom PERIOD, right? Any tips on making the stock rom freeze up less? Is it safe just rooting and overclocking the stock rom?
-Erik
burritoboy9984 said:
Ok, so if she wants access to her library she has to use the stock rom PERIOD, right? Any tips on making the stock rom freeze up less? Is it safe just rooting and overclocking the stock rom?
-Erik
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YES. If the library's a MUST for her, then you can just root the stock rom (so you can install market apps) and flash dalingrin's kernel to overclock it (which would significantly speed up the nook and lessen freezes).
I am running CM7 from emmc and have access to all my Barnes and Noble books through the Nook app from market, if that is what you mean. There are a few children's books that may not work with the Nook app and I am given to understand some magazine subscriptions might be unavailable but it is not a problem for me.
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All yours questions have been answered by others so I just chip in my experience.
1. If you run CM7 off uSD card, using Nook App will be much better.
2. If you run CM7 from eMMC and want to use Nook App, you MUST have an external uSD card plugged in anyway. W/o the card, it won't work properly.
3. Even with the Nook app running, I believe you will lose some features that stock Froyo offered such audio book?
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YES. If the library's a MUST for her, then you can just root the stock rom (so you can install market apps) and flash dalingrin's kernel to overclock it (which would significantly speed up the nook and lessen freezes).
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That is not correct. If her library is of the books that she has downloaded from B&N that library is always available. When she signs in with the Nook Android app the library will sync and she can re-download any book she previously purchased from B&N.
Hi,
I'm looking toward a Nook Touch because it looks to have better specs-wise than the forthcoming Kindle Touch (though Amazon has better backend/store support), but how stable is it if rooted? I'm intrigued about the possibility for using ezPDF, simple browser, etc. on a rooted Nook, but was concerned about any stability issues.
Thanks.
Once you get it rooted, it can be very stable. I've run ezpdf on mine before to read books for school on.
Once rooted, it is quite stable. Ezpdf and opera mini are the apps for your needs, and they are very responsive - they seem to be made for the nook
after rooting it just works the same as before. If anything can brake it, it's those modified frameworks and other jars so I keep myself away of that. So basically one can easily install and uninstall applications on rooted nook and that's it. I do not use market, so everything comes in apk which are rather clean after being uninstalled. With my approach to not modify framework or use gapps or market, the latest update of nook software provided by BN went really smooth and after reboot I had all my apps working - beside from those needing root access.
In my experience, stability is fine, but my root was apparently incomplete (did not have write access to some folders) and I decided to revert back to stock for now by doing the L+R factory reset. I wouldn't let that discourage you, but you must, must, must backup your N2E if you're gonna try rooting. You never know when it'd come in handy.
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Does Dolphin Browser Mini work on rooted Nook, or is Opera the only 3rd party browser?
Also, is there a list somewhere of confirmed apps that work on a rooted Nook?
Thanks.
Bosun,
We have a list of working apps in this forum, under themes and apps in the main nook str menu.
Dolphin does work, but the address bar doesn't follow the link once you select it. But if you make a search in google and go to the link, or have the link in favorites, there is no problem.
I'm new to the Nook Color area of XDA, so I apologize in advance if my question is one that has been answered. I did search, but was not able to find an answer to my exact situation, so here it is:
I'm getting a NC as a gift for my family to use. I understand that the stock Rom for the NC allows you to access (what appears to me to be) B&N's version of the Market, with apps optimized for the NC. That sounds like a good thing, as it would seem like they would be the more stable versions (as they are built/tweaked specifically for the NC).
However, I'm familiar with (in general) the rooting/custom ROMs/overclocking concepts of an Android device, so I'm thinking I would like to put MIUI or CM7 on the device so that I can make it be the most powerful and useful device possible.
Here's my dilemma - I can't seem to find any posts that say whether the apps that a person can get from the B&N "market" will run (if transferred via ADB or Root Explorer, or whatever the NC equivalent may be) on a CM7/MIUI setup, or if it is just better to get the normal Market version of those apps.
For example: If I get Angry Birds in the B&N market, I would assume it's designed to run a certain way on the NC. If I download it from the Android Market, I would assume it's going to run differently. Is there any perceptible difference between the two?
I'm not entirely averse to staying with the stock ROM if the apps are heavily tied to (and perform better with) the stock setup. However, if it's not really going to matter whether they come from B&N or Google, I would prefer to be able to use a custom ROM and still be able to run (within reason) all the apps I'm used to using.
I guess that ultimately I can dual-boot if I find that the B&N app versions are superior, but having just dealt with a letdown from a Pandigital Novel, I'm wanting this experience to get off on the right foot. To me, the optimal situation would be a full install of a custom ROM, with either the optimized B&N apps running or equivalent Android Market apps running.
Thanks in advance for any advice/experiences anyone can offer.
I think it depends on whether or not the application requires anything that would be only in the B&N version of Android. I've used the Pandora application from the stock OS on CM7 and worked fine, but there may be some that won't. I haven't ran stock since about a week after getting mine.
Edit: I realized I rambled, so feel free to skip the long version below.
Short version: Not sure if you can ADB pull/push the paid B&N apps to another install, don't know how (if any) DRM works for that. While B&N apps are built specifically for the resolution, I find that they are very expensive (compared Angry Birds Seasons HD 99cents to B&N Angry Birds Seasons (HD) 3 dollars, and honestly I could not see a difference between the two) and if your Nook is not overclocked (which requires rooting), tend to be slow. There are some that are quite nice that I haven't found the equivalent of yet in Amazon App/Google Market such as Word Rainbow. You can find replacements/equivalents for most of the B&N apps in the other two stores I've mentioned. B&N sadly has a very small selection of apps that are actually any good, imo.
The native B&N reader app is far better than the Nook app (some functionality like enhanced children's books ONLY available on native app) and has not been, afaik, successfully ported.
Long, rambly, feel-free-to-ignore version pertaining more to ROMS than apps:
I've run unrooted stock, Manualnootered (rooted) stock, and various flavors of CM7.
- The native ereader app in stock has a very, very nice UI. Much better imo than the Kindle's. I still have to find a good replacement for it. It is also the only way, AFAIK, that you can read those enhanced children's books that lets you record your voice, or that has animations/reads to the viewer. If this is important to you, then stick to unrooted or rooted stock.
- Unrooted stock is so slow, that after having used overclocked rooted stock and CM7, I cannot bring myself to use it again. Even page turns were slow. App loading times are abysmal, and live wallpaper will not only eat your battery but cause everything else to slow down.
- Manualnootered stock is quite nice because you get to install 3rd party apps, have access to not only B&N's own store but also Google Market and Amazon App Store if you install them. You can also overclock so it's a much faster experience (highly recommended).
*Drawbacks are that there are some bugs that you may run into: Update issues with Adobe products, which cause boot loops (there's a fix for it). Not all apps may appear in Google Market (several things you can try to fix). And finally, if there's an OTA (over the air) update to the next (1.4, assuming you manualnooter to the latest 1.3 update), it will break your root/nootering and you will have to do it all over again.
- Installing a Cyanogenmod ROM: You get Gingerbread instead of Froyo (2.3.x vs 2.2.x), lots of goodies too many to list. With Tablet Tweaks (built in) and Nook Color Tools, you can tweak the bleep out of your Nook Color in terms of performance. You won't have to worry about OTA updates or the boot loop issue, but you do run into issues such as: "Your device is not compatible" messages when you try to install certain apps from Google Market (there are workarounds for most of them), SOD (Screen of Death, supposedly fixed with latest dalingrin kernel update), wifi issues (disconnect, difficulty connecting, etc.), force closes of random processes if using a nightly build. You could go with the stable build, but honestly the improvements in the nightly builds far outweigh the bugs which get ironed out pretty quickly.
The best part is, you don't even have to install just one of these. If you want, you can either a) dual boot stock + custom rom from EMMC (native Nook Color space), b) boot custom rom from SD install and keep unrooted stock to avoid voiding your warranty if you're concerned about that c) mix and match dual booting etc. It is pretty much impossible to brick your Nook Color.
After several months I've found that I prefer using CM7 builds simply because they are so much more customizable than rooted stock. I would suggest trying out both (stock, rooted or not, + CM7) via the SD card install + stock EMMC if you're not leaning towards one or the other.
Thank you. That was a very clear, concise, and complete answer to my question (and a good excuse for me to use some alliteration).
As I'm not really interested in the eReader functionality of the device, I'm guessing a Manualnootered/CM7(or MIUI) configuration is where I"ll go, at least until I'm sure what will work better for me.
Don't be surprised if you see me popping up in here again, asking more questions.
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
jmtheiss said:
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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First off, if you want to keep the kid's books, you have to keep stock on internal memory. It is the only way they can run. They won't work on CM. That rebloat pack is just to put the stock nook reader back on stock.
When you put the SD card in the PC it is normal that it sees only the boot partition of the SD.
When you connect your nook to the PC with the USB cable, the PC can only see the internal media partition (emmc) and partition 4 of the SD (sdcard).
Root Explorer will let you read/write if you touch the toggle button at the top of it's screen.
With adb, what are you trying to mount?
Thanks for the reply.
I'm using ES File explorer, which I know works to give me the read/write capabilities, but after mounting /system (and/or /system/app) as read-write, I was not able to write files into because it said that it was not read-write.
With ADB, I was trying to mount either /system or /system/app as rewritable, but I couldn't get it to take.
That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
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That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
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The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
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The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
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Alright. Thanks, that makes a lot more sense.
So, I installed cm7 on an sd card, and it works fine. However, when I go to the market there are some apps that aren't showing. I used the latest nightly build of encore, and I'm curious if I should downgrade to the latest stable version to view all the apps. It was my understanding that by using Encore 7.1 or higher, all apps would be visible and I wouldn't have to change the build.properties file. Any help would be appreciated!!!
Hmmm, Market incompatibility was huge but has been resolved for long time ago, I'm surprise that it is resurfacing again.
Anyway, what is the version of your ROM, what is the version of the Market?
Market is...
Market version is 3.4.4 and not sure how to get the version for the rom, this is the one that i used cm_encore_full-253.zip. Thanks for the help, the nook itself is rooted as well, using autonooter, but I did that a while ago. Not sure what version of android it's using.
What apps are missing? Just a few, a specific one or two, or most?
Some apps (e.g. Blockbuster, Google Currents) don't show up at all on my rooted NC or NT, but show on my phone. This is deliberate on their part, and I believe would require a lot of build.prop finagling to overcome.
Other Market problems in the past have been related to screen density, and various workarounds (clearing market app cache, etc.) were required. Those problems should largely be resolved with CM 7.1 n253.
Missing apps
Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything? If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything?
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You might try some of the build.prop tweaks that are floating around. I'm new to them myself, but they seem to be key when you have certain "hidden" apps like this that only show up on certain devices.
If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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Running CM7, either on SD or internal emmc is not hard, but it can be confusing. Just make sure you've determined what exactly it is you want to do.
HeelzFan said:
Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything? If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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It is not hard at all. Just make a titanium backup and then flash CM7 using the guide in my sig.
If you want to update stock then I am pretty sure you need to wipe everything to update. Again make a titanium backup and then restore it after the upgrade and you will be fine.
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HeelzFan said:
Sadly, the one that my kids want more then anything is Smurfs Village, but it won't show up. Is there anyway to upgrade my rooted nook (using autonooter) without wiping everything? If I can do that, I won't even use CM7. I'd like to, but how hard is it to go from Froyo on a rooted nook to CM7 internal?
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I just realized I've had a memory lapse. If you've got the app working on another device, try downloading Android Assistant (AA) and making a backup. Then copy the apk that AA makes over to your Nook and try installing it.
I just did this to copy Google Currents to my rooted B&N 1.4.1 install that didn't show it in the Market.
bobstro said:
I just realized I've had a memory lapse. If you've got the app working on another device, try downloading Android Assistant (AA) and making a backup. Then copy the apk that AA makes over to your Nook and try installing it.
I just did this to copy Google Currents to my rooted B&N 1.4.1 install that didn't show it in the Market.
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I sent Google Currents from my Xoom to my girl's NC by Bluetooth. Worked great.
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I sent Google Currents from my Xoom to my girl's NC by Bluetooth. Worked great.
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Her rooted NC running cm7.2.