Do we have a root method yet?
I think there is one that works but it trips the flash counter thing.
Mherder said:
I think there is one that works but it trips the flash counter thing.
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Who cares about that. Link?
beaups said:
Who cares about that. Link?
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People who would like to return on warranty.Having had warranty experiences in the past, I am in that group.
I think when it is confiremd it will be in the DEV forum. I read a thread in General about it, and someone claimed they had it, but provided no info.
And Samsung has denied warranty work to users in the past due to the flash counter?
beaups said:
And Samsung has denied warranty work to users in the past due to the flash counter?
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From what I have read, that is my assumption, but I don't know personally. But I had been seriously questioned about ROM version when I had to send my Captivate in. It doesn't have ROM counter.
Check Dev thread. We have one that works.
bottom line is at this point if you trip the flash counter, your warranty if void.
I'm rooted.
Used the Sprint version and everything went smooth as butter.
jdbeitz said:
bottom line is at this point if you trip the flash counter, your warranty if void.
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BS ..Samsung does not void the warranty for an
Obvious hardware issue just because you rooted.
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Hello,
quick question, does rooting void warranty?
and if so, if i unroot and flash the stock rom back... does it still void warranty??
thanks in advance!
No, it doesn't.
Only if you unlock your bootloader do you void your warranty. To root without voiding your warranty use --> http://maketecheasier.com/root-android-phone-without-voiding-warranty/2010/08/13
johnlee_1986 said:
Hello,
quick question, does rooting void warranty?
and if so, if i unroot and flash the stock rom back... does it still void warranty??
thanks in advance!
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Nope. Neither does searching. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
Technically it does, but if the bootloader is locked, you can unroot leaving absolutely no trace.
HTC don't seem to care about them being unlocked anyway.
Rusty! said:
Technically it does, but if the bootloader is locked, you can unroot leaving absolutely no trace.
HTC don't seem to care about them being unlocked anyway.
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This is the important part ... HTC doesn't care. I've sent my phone in twice while rooted and both times it has come back factory reset with the boot loader re-locked.
Paul22000 said:
Neither does searching.
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What an epic post. Thanks for that Paul.
On a somewhat side note there is an article in the Portal that I feel every new user should read... it's about posting, searching, etc. http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/important-xda-announcement-regarding-new-users/
rooting voids virginity, so they tell me.
jamesyb0i said:
rooting voids virginity, so they tell me.
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Does Flashing Custom Recovery Void warranty...?
XanthiunZxC said:
Does Flashing Custom Recovery Void warranty...?
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So far, the answer is yes.
XanthiunZxC said:
Does Flashing Custom Recovery Void warranty...?
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the answer is Yes But
if u can spend time to learn
thr s also method to recover completely ur phone to official state
it means reset the counter of bootloader to 0
the thing that show u unlock ur phone and void warranty
Search ....
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I'm from the Verizon forums. for our phones atleast yes it does and contrary to what the above post mentions there is an efuse that has yet been able to reset
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x102x96x said:
the answer is Yes But
if u can spend time to learn
thr s also method to recover completely ur phone to official state
it means reset the counter of bootloader to 0
the thing that show u unlock ur phone and void warranty
Search ....
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Really, you want to post links because I'm pretty sure the bounty to reset Knox is still unclaimed...
x102x96x said:
the answer is Yes But
if u can spend time to learn
thr s also method to recover completely ur phone to official state
it means reset the counter of bootloader to 0
the thing that show u unlock ur phone and void warranty
Search ....
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You are wrong unless you supply a link to your claim. The bounty to reset KNOX is still unclaimed as there is still NO WAY to reset it. Please do not give people false hope or make claims you are not willing to back up with proof.
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You are wrong unless you supply a link to your claim. The bounty to reset KNOX is still unclaimed as there is still NO WAY to reset it. Please do not give people false hope or make claims you are not willing to back up with proof.
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Does Flashing Custom Recovery Void warranty...?
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yes it voids your warranty and there are lot of methods to recovery
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Solarenemy68 said:
You are wrong unless you supply a link to your claim. The bounty to reset KNOX is still unclaimed as there is still NO WAY to reset it. Please do not give people false hope or make claims you are not willing to back up with proof.
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i didn't mentioned exactly knox-bootloader of samsung device
i talked about Bootloader of Android
and example of reset bootloader counter (or flash counter);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2132670
and search for S4;
http://tinyurl.com/nhjl9vc
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Check out Zroice's thread, seems he has managed to modify the system files to run custom roms (sort of) without tripping KNOX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538882
x102x96x said:
i didn't mentioned exactly knox-bootloader of samsung device
i talked about Bootloader of Android
and example of reset bootloader counter (or flash counter);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2132670
and search for S4;
http://tinyurl.com/nhjl9vc
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But then what's the point.. If knox counter can't be reset, warranty is still void
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Does Flashing Custom Recovery Void warranty...?
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Yes it does, if it didn't i would have done it to my note 8
Are their many/ any user with actual warranty on this model .
Bit pointless replying to a five year old post .
PBoltas said:
Yes it does, if it didn't i would have done it to my note 8
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Dude, it's 4,5 years since the question was asked !
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Well some of these posts should be deleted then , if there that old, i didn't see the date right away.
PBoltas said:
Well some of these posts should be deleted then , if there that old, i didn't see the date right away.
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In that case use the report button .
But you must have searched as this thread was way way down .
If I have knox bootloader can I:-
1) Root my device?
2) Flash different modem?
3) Flash any CM or AOSP ROM?
4) Flash any custom recovery?
I want these things to be clear for me.
Thanks.
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Yes to all. Except 3 some ppl have trouble flashing different modems.
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yeah there area ways to still do that stuff but it'll flag it, so that voids your warranty
SayWhat10 said:
yeah there area ways to still do that stuff but it'll flag it, so that voids your warranty
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I don't care about warranty.
I care about my freedom to choose modems and roms and edit my system as I want.
But I see Google android and Samsung in their way to loose more users by their new jails.
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yea
supposedly knox was for making the Galaxy an enterprise level security phone. so WTF is the warranty flag all about? right?
cyberweasal
anees02 said:
I don't care about warranty.
I care about my freedom to choose modems and roms and edit my system as I want.
But I see Google android and Samsung in their way to loose more users by their new jails.
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cyberweasal said:
supposedly knox was for making the Galaxy an enterprise level security phone. so WTF is the warranty flag all about? right?
cyberweasal
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Well, the knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty. It's purpose is to signal to the knox container that the phone has been tampered with and is no longer able to provide the required security to the phone. Now, since there is no way to reset it like we could 0 out the flash counter with triangle away, it can also allow Samsung to see that your rooted or tampered with your phone so they can deny you warranty service. I haven't seen one post from someone that has been denied warranty service after tripping the knox warranty flag, we just all assume this will be the case since rooting your phone violates your warranty.
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Well, the knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty. It's purpose is to signal to the knox container that the phone has been tampered with and is no longer able to provide the required security to the phone. Now, since there is no way to reset it like we could 0 out the flash counter with triangle away, it can also allow Samsung to see that your rooted or tampered with your phone so they can deny you warranty service. I haven't seen one post from someone that has been denied warranty service after tripping the knox warranty flag, we just all assume this will be the case since rooting your phone violates your warranty.
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Eh.... Doesn't your first sentence contradict everything else you said?
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Eh.... Doesn't your first sentence contradict everything else you said?
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No, the Knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty only knox's warranty. The later statements were just the way it is. Samsung has never said your phone's warranty is invalid if the Knox warranty flag is tripped. But, if you read their warranty, it does say if you tampered with your phone than your warranty may be void. So, yes, you can infer that a tripped Knox warranty flag also means your warranty is void.
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cant wait till someone figures out how to reset Knox..then this will get interesting!!!
cruise350 said:
No, the Knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty only knox's warranty. The later statements were just the way it is. Samsung has never said your phone's warranty is invalid if the Knox warranty flag is tripped. But, if you read their warranty, it does say if you tampered with your phone than your warranty may be void. So, yes, you can infer that a tripped Knox warranty flag also means your warranty is void.
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Hello, does anybody know if we are close to a potential knox friendly root release for 4.4.2? I know that they pached 4.3 kernel and saferoot will not work on kitkat anymore..but because of this patch, will it be possible to root again while keeping knox 0x0? Or just say goodbye to saferoot and void our waranties?
I am asking because my GT-I9505 is starting to lag because of bloats and i would like to root it, am i waiting for a ''safe root'' that actually never going to be released? if yes im about to use cf autoroot right now.
feel free to express your opinion:good:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
The unique way for root the phone is using CF- autoroot at this moment. This method void ur warranty, sorry :highfive:
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I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
Dmoustakas said:
I already knew that cf root voids warranty. All i ask is if a ''saferoot'' method is now an impossible scenario due to the kernel patch....Or it's not? Any dev here to give an answer? I am sure there are many people waiting anxiously...
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I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
Joku1981 said:
I'm telling u that Saferoot worked for android 4.3 and no will all firmwares. Saferoot is dead atm. Do u think are the first asking for it? :highfive:
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I know everything you say, I just ask if it is impossible for ''saferoot'' or ''root de la vega'' or any similar root that is be able to bypass knox without tripping it in the near future, not now!....i know that these root methods do NOT work in the present, all i ask is for the near future, that is why i asked for a dev to give us a more specialized answer.
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
Dmoustakas said:
i ask is for the near future,...
Thank you for your answer but please understand what i say
Cheers
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Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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spamtrash said:
Of curse in near future the 4.4.2 ROMs will be rooted without tripping the KNOX and warranty flag.
I can assure you that ETA is around 24 months, so what you need to do is to sit and wait.
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Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
Dmoustakas said:
Sarcasm never helped anyone. Thanks.
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Do you want serious approach?
Be my guest. Current circumstances are:
1. Samsung announced about in near future 4.4.3 release for G4;
2. sometime ago S5 was released.
1+2=less and less devs have interest in work with G4 4.4.2, therefore it is very unlikely that it will be any breakthrough, if something universal (like common trick, let's say for Note 3+G4) would emerge, Even Samsung is not approaching the 4.4.2 seriously (known GLONASS bug, problems with data connections, drains etc are remaining unfixed).
Conclusion: because of the above, you can sit and wait, as I stated in previous post, having hope that something may appear.
Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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shysstkille said:
Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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Look here http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/ for instance and KNOX cannot be reset atm. You can root with Towelroot without tripipng KNOX but flashing a kernel or custom recovery will set KNOX on 0x1. Yes, tripping KNOX will void warranty in some regions depending on local laws. In the EU it doesn`t unless the oem can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect.
shysstkille said:
I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
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Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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shysstkille said:
is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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fffft said:
No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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åh,Nice,thanks a lot mate
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How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?
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A forum search would have told you this.. look on the download mode page, in the system properties or install an app like Phone Info.
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shysstkille said:
thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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Towelroot uses an exploit so it won't trip your KNOX counter.
Using regular root on the GS5 trips KNOX.
But as stated above, flashing a custom recovery, kernel or ROM will trip KNOX regardless.
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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You can either use download mode like the guy who replied to you or download an app off playstore called Phone Info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en