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TouchWiz for Android 4/ICS = EPIC FAIL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ISAI6qbQm6U
Obviously this is a beta version of the upcoming samsung official ICS release for S2, it looks like a total catastrophe with TouchWiz..it looks NOTHING like beautiful Nexus Interface.
If it will look anything remotly similiar on the GNOTE it would be catastrophic..

Yeah agree. If the final looks like this i'm gonna flash vanilla ICS.. Well, i'll probably flash that either way.
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yes this is total dissapointment, all people expect a total new UI, and what we get is something that looks identlical to the interface we have right now... it does not look like ICS at all... looks more like gingerbread... what are Samsung thinking drop the TouchWiz crap, TouchWiz has played out it's roll... it feels like windows 7 but with the xp GUI...
We should send a protest list or something to samsung cause this looks like a total nightmare...all people expect the brilliance of the Nexus GUI.. but this looks even worse then I could imagine.

Long live cm9!!
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I wouldn't mind vanilla ICS, but there'd better be a way to turn off the on-screen soft keys on phones that have hardware ones. Also, I can't stand having to reach all the way to the top of the phone for anything but notifications. The menu button at the bottom better continue to work the same.

The vanilla runs well on the fassy. Same stuff new version.
Ics 4.0.1 by jt1134

maxh said:
I wouldn't mind vanilla ICS, but there'd better be a way to turn off the on-screen soft keys on phones that have hardware ones. Also, I can't stand having to reach all the way to the top of the phone for anything but notifications. The menu button at the bottom better continue to work the same.
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If you use adw ex u can put notificationbar on gestures, so u can drag it down from anywhere on the screen
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I hate touchiz. I'm an aosp lover
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I think the phone will look odd with ICS anyway. You will have two rows of redundant keys, even though one may be not working.

randypurcz said:
I think the phone will look odd with ICS anyway. You will have two rows of redundant keys, even though one may be not working.
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lol.....You can disable software keys in ICS

LordManhattan said:
Yeah agree. If the final looks like this i'm gonna flash vanilla ICS.. Well, i'll probably flash that either way.
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To some one who have not used android before, can you explain to me what you mean with Vanilla ICS ????
You mean it will be possible to root with the standard ICS interface ?
Will the performance be as good as the official or will be lagging and buggs etc ?
Anyway, why it look so similar to todays gingerbread is maybe cause samsung are doing an half-hearted upgrade..
they have promised us ICS.. but they only seem to put small amount of energy to make a big update...
the interface looks identical etc.. Why I wanted ICS was cause it is basically a totally new OS...compared to gingerbread.

blackstar84 said:
To some one who have not used android before, can you explain to me what you mean with Vanilla ICS ????
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Stock Android. The way Google had intended it to look, feel, and perform.
This is unbelievably disappointing. I'm still glad I have my S2, because of the ASOP rom currently under development. I'll most definitely switch between phones whenever I want and just store any content that matters on an SD card, so my phone is virtually hot-swappable between devices.

DarkShot666 said:
Stock Android. The way Google had intended it to look, feel, and perform.
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Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?

blackstar84 said:
Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
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It depends on developer support. If the devs for CM9 can port it to the Note, than only then can we expect a (hopefully) fully functional ICS rom on the Note.
As it stands, Google only releases official vanilla roms to their Nexus line of phones, and they release the source for other manufacturers/devs to port to other phones.
I hope that answers your question mate, the way it was worded was a bit difficult to fully understand.

blackstar84 said:
Yes I understand that, but there will be no official version cause the stock version most be modified to be able to work with GNOTE ???
I just wonder if it is possible to port the ICS to GNOTE without any glitches and performance loss... how does past vanilla versions works for other phones ?
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Well official as in with 'nothing' on it, no carrier or vendor tweaks/applications added and in this case, things like Touchwiz.
Also ICS was launched with Galaxy Nexus not Galaxy Note, but regardless I would presume that Samsung or another developer on XDA or any other forum will create a port to the Galaxy Note.
Vanilla just means that it doesn't have the other unnecessary stuff loaded e.g. Touchwiz. Vanilla is always compiled directly from AOSP source.

Why is everyone so angry about samsung including touchwiz into the ICS rom (I assume that's what this discussion is about?). Isn't the best thing about android the incredible ease of installing another launcher? Shouldn't the stock launcher just be a .apk away?

PickleHead said:
Why is everyone so angry about samsung including touchwiz into the ICS rom (I assume that's what this discussion is about?). Isn't the best thing about android the incredible ease of installing another launcher? Shouldn't the stock launcher just be a .apk away?
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Well it's true what you said, but Samsung will skin almost everything.
The phone, browser, music player....all of them will be skinned with TW & I guess people in this thread (me include) prefer the stock ICS look and feel.

atm i looks not really nice, but! it is an internal beta, maybe even a alpha version, nobody knows if samsungs is just trying and looking if touchwiz is working under ics, i'm sure that they will make some more cosmetics for ics.

Dunno but no on saw the video? Didn't you something wrong or better few things that where not as expected on it? First the phone had a yellow triangle meaning Samsung had a problem flashing a non stock Rom on the phone. Second on the *#1234# if you not 100% eye sight old man here the csc is unknown.......... . Third the keys back and menu keys aren't functionally at all, only if they had the drivers for them to implant on csc so they could work. Fourth the browser not sure was on xda forums when he started? Or did I see wrong or now I know they where looking xda forum for a working csc file to make the buttons work.
And about touchwiz give me ics on note even with a touch I don't care, so someday the devs can make a custom Rom, on our needs. But they need to have something to play with and take some codes/ideas from the custom files.
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Wow.. that is disappointing... i thought i could just flash back the stock rom when ICS is out. Now looks like I'm going to stay rooted for good.

Vanilla (stock) ICS vs. Sense 4.0 + ICS

In my recent mental debate over the EVO 4G LTE vs. the Nexus, I've pondered the differences between stock ICS (pure/vanilla/etc) and the ICS we will see on the One series by HTC, including our very own EVO sequel. From the few screenshots I've seen of the One X, it does not remotely resemble the ICS I've learned to know and love with the work our devs our doing to bring the latest and greatest to the OG. Examples include the lockscreen (the Sense ring appears to still be the default one - is there an option to go straight ICS for the lockscreen?), the dock (I'm sure I can switch the launcher to fix this issue...), the notifications pulldown (I've actually not seen the Sense one yet, but I've heard various things indicating it is different from the one I'm no accustomed to), etc. Heck, even the color of the battery meter is green instead of blue!
Does anyone know or at least have an idea if we can change some of those things without rooting our devices? Having a brand new device, I don't plan on needing to root (or at least install custom ROMs, that is) for a while. But I am already missing the slick new interface Google has provided. While many claim that Sense 4.0 is going for the minimalistic approach to the latest iteration of their infamous skin, why do I feel like they have completely altered a widely praised operating system that has barely rolled out? I'm a little saddened when I see the video of the EVO 4G LTE and feel like the look of everything is dated.
But then I look at the hardware, think about the devs who'll inevitably move to this phone, and that excites me about the possibilities. I guess I'm more curious than disappointed, but I was wondering others' feelings on this topic.

Long answer short, you'll get aosp, miui and sense on the HTC which is nice if you get bored and want something different.
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alaman68 said:
Long answer short, you'll get aosp, miui and sense on the HTC which is nice if you get bored and want something different.
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Can you make your short answer slightly longer? Haha how would I get AOSP and MIUI on the EVO LTE? You mean one devs get to work on it? Or stock?
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PsiPhiDan said:
Can you make your short answer slightly longer? Haha how would I get AOSP and MIUI on the EVO LTE? You mean one devs get to work on it? Or stock?
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Right. Not stock, would have to be rooted. My bad. The devs will be all over that phone anyway so it will be a blast
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It's a *good* thing the phone comes with Sense, its one more option you have, and Sense does add some useful features. Custom rom's will offer all kinds of options including optimized and bloatware free versions of Sense.

alaman68 said:
Right. Not stock, would have to be rooted. My bad. The devs will be all over that phone anyway so it will be a blast
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Completely agree. I'm kind of thinking of galaxy nexus, cuz I'm not fond of sense. But, I'm sure in no time we'll be able to rip sense OFF that SOB and put AOKP or some other variant of vanilla ICS.
Then, if you wanna run sense for a few days, that option will still be there. It's win-win.
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If I'm running Sense 4.0, do you think I'll still be able to get the Quad ICS unlock screen, or something like that? I LOVE that lockscreen - way better than the silly ring that Sense creates. I don't understand why they didn't change that from 3.0 and 3.5 to something fresh. Oh, I would assume I have the "unlock with face" option too on this phone? It's been so long since I ran Sense, I forgot if these things are changeable or not!
My only concern with the custom ROMs is whether things will run okay, like camera and such. Also, if you are running AOSP, you'll miss out on the supposedly amazing camera suite that Sense 4.0 provides, right?
Tough choice!!!

Sense 4.0 + ICS ALL DAY!
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I went to tmobile today and toyed with the one s. I will say it isn't the ICS we know from the current development but it is beautiful and sleek. The soft keys are a bit cumbersome but I could get used to it. I am in no way drawn away from the evo lte and am more than anxious to own that device!
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imheroldman said:
I went to tmobile today and toyed with the one s. I will say it isn't the ICS we know from the current development but it is beautiful and sleek. The soft keys are a bit cumbersome but I could get used to it. I am in no way drawn away from the evo lte and am more than anxious to own that device!
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That's awesome, especially considering the One S is inferior to our EVO we're getting...
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Well I will answer my own question at this moment, because I stopped into a T-Mobile and played with the One-S for about 10 minutes. It appears that ICS as we know it is VERY coated by Sense, but not necessarily in a bad way. It is still beautiful, just very different. I noticed that there were no quick settings in the notifications menu, which is one thing I was very curious about. But overall, really nice and REALLY amazing! Considering that is the crappy version of our EVOs, I cannot wait for this thing. The One-S screen was awesome, and I know it can't touch the screen (both size and resolution-wise) of our new toy coming out. But the UI was terrifically smooth, the feel was nice (physically), and Sense was overall not intrusive. It was just omnipresent. I'm not disappointed at all - and I know the devs will give us amazing options in terms of removing Sense, or tweaking Sense to give us cool features like quick settings and slide to change brightness.
I can't wait until the One-X is out so that I can play with that one, since it will give a much more accurate portrayal of our experience we can expect. May 18th can't get here soon enough!

I'm posting this everywhere . Its a post by toastcfh over in the oneX forums about how much HTC locked the phone down. Among many things, it is impossible to mount SD from recovery due to their locking, even with custom recovery and HTC dev unlock. If toast says it, it is so, I mean, the guy is an Android/Linux GENIUS. he's the one that had the Evo root method instructions posted before launch day.
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no, USB mount does not work in recovery. It appears to be locked out in recovery mode. the workarounds to get it working are one of two things.
(1) fastboot boot awesomeRecovery.img (this works because fastboot then boots recovery on the boot/temporary partition. So the you're not actually in recovery mode
(2) Offmode (this works because again you're again not technically in recovery mode. It uses the recovery ramdisk, kernel, and binaries but its still not technically recovery.
On that note I've seen suggestions that it's possibly a recovery issue with cwm and twrp. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be the case. If it were then in CWM u wouldn't have usb when u fastboot boot the recovery or in offmode (fair assumption since both these options use the same kernel, ramdisk and binaries as recovery?). Can it be fix? Not that i know of. It looks to me like a total radio or bootloader lockout from using USB in recovery. Which means on a radio or bootloader level USB is disabled in recovery mode.
On that note I think we should raise the point to HTC that this locking down of the device does not suite our needs.Key points of fail would be as follows.
(1) Can NOT flash the boot partition from recovery. I've personally contacted HTC on this numerous times and they seem to just not care. Responding with "It's a security issue" and so forth. I would love to know how this is a security issue of any sort. Every other Android device has this ability except HTC devices since they started the HTC unlock ordeal. It's utter fail IMHO and HTC should listen to our needs .
(2) Can NOT flash recovery or boot partitions from system. This issue is NOT a deal breaker and isn't so bad when it comes down to the nitty gritty. But since the issue above exists, flashing with applications like htc dumlock and such were our only options. These work around apps cant be used to flash now because of the lockpout from system and it wouldn't be such an issue if HTC didnt lock us out in recovery from flashing boot.
(3) Can NOT flash P*IMG.zips in hboot/bootloader anymore. For the unlocked device running a custom firmware this is a must. Specially when radio updates and such are needed from the OEM. We seen a big use of this on the Sensation when HTC updated the device from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich. The update required new hboots, radios, and partitioning to actually use. So in that instead of having to flash a RUU Which didn't exist the only choice was to flash a custom P*IMG.zip that included all the radios and images need to run the builds. At this point we can't update those image/partitions without flashing an RUU. This makes no since and doesn't seem to do anything but make things more difficult on the unlocker to customize and modify their device.
(4) If all the conditions above HAVE to exist. Then why not give us documentation or utilities to flash fimware.zips from recovery like HTC does? When HTC was the proud Nexus device there was full support and documentation available on how to flash firmware on their devices. This made anyone choosing an HTC device blessed with knowing that their device was not only open and unlocked, but when flashing firmware that it was being flashed correctly to Google and HTC's standards. This code has now been moved out of recovery since right before the move to edify scripting and moved to vendor/htc/ (not arguing this choice as thats where it belongs from a maintaining point of view). But the problem is that vendor/htc is proprietary now. Which means Documentation and support for flashing firmware correctly is not available and left to developers of recoveries for the community to figure out. One would think if HTC was standing behind us that they would step up and give us a PROPER/OPEN/REAL unlock, or if they cant for the lame excuse of security concerns, then give us the documentation and utilities to flash the boot and firmware partitions properly. I mean really... what is there to lose there?
(5) WHAT WAS THE POINT OF HTC UNLOCK? I was to reach out and except us as a community. It was to keep us from having to exploit their firmware and look for holes to gain control of a device we rightfully own. WHAT DID HTC UNLOCK DO? It unlocked the devices at first and with each new revision of the unlock it gets more locked down and harder for us to use it as intended. WHAT DOES THAT LEAD TO? It leads to us hoping someone will take the time out of their life and exploit HTC's firmware so we can have access and control of our devices. I mean, it's bad when u have people poking a device with a paperclip to get a device unlocked to avoid a official unlock.
Bottom line; I'm personally fed up with HTC's unlock. It's absolute crap! It does not serve the purpose it was intended and only makes things harder then they were before. As a devoted HTC customer it has me questioning if my next device will be an HTC. With all the other options that would allow me to spend less time trying to gain proper access to my device and more time actually having fun with it, why choose HTC? Everyone else is shying away for these same issues. Everyone with an HTC unlocked device waits for someone to exploit HTC's firmware and give them a proper unlock. Why not just choose a device without the locked down/unlock instead? IDK but HTC needs to step up and listen to us. Every HTC forum with an HTC Unlock is screaming for these issues to be fixed.
My call to HTC is to fix these issue and/or give us proper documentation on flashing firmware to our devices via custom recoveries. The boot flashing lockout is dumb, pointless, and in NO WAY a security threat AT ALL and is nothing more then a CRAP RESPONSE to something that they sould be working to correct, instead of ignoring. In the end its hurting HTC's relations with developers and is ultimately doing the opposite of what it's original intent.
HTC, PLEASE READ AND LISTEN!!!11ONEone
To everyone else, SPREAD THE WORD!!!ONEone
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There has to be a way to petition HTC. Reading this is making me lean galaxy Nexus, ...and I F$%kin HATE Samsung.
Edit: this post is from the One X forum TWRP topic.
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No way I'm buying a Samsung phone.
I'll trust that someone will figure out how to get around the issue at some point. I love how the phone is stock anyway.
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PsiPhiDan said:
In my recent mental debate over the EVO 4G LTE vs. the Nexus, I've pondered the differences between stock ICS (pure/vanilla/etc) and the ICS we will see on the One series by HTC, including our very own EVO sequel. From the few screenshots I've seen of the One X, it does not remotely resemble the ICS I've learned to know and love with the work our devs our doing to bring the latest and greatest to the OG. Examples include the lockscreen (the Sense ring appears to still be the default one - is there an option to go straight ICS for the lockscreen?), the dock (I'm sure I can switch the launcher to fix this issue...), the notifications pulldown (I've actually not seen the Sense one yet, but I've heard various things indicating it is different from the one I'm no accustomed to), etc. Heck, even the color of the battery meter is green instead of blue!
Does anyone know or at least have an idea if we can change some of those things without rooting our devices? Having a brand new device, I don't plan on needing to root (or at least install custom ROMs, that is) for a while. But I am already missing the slick new interface Google has provided. While many claim that Sense 4.0 is going for the minimalistic approach to the latest iteration of their infamous skin, why do I feel like they have completely altered a widely praised operating system that has barely rolled out? I'm a little saddened when I see the video of the EVO 4G LTE and feel like the look of everything is dated.
But then I look at the hardware, think about the devs who'll inevitably move to this phone, and that excites me about the possibilities. I guess I'm more curious than disappointed, but I was wondering others' feelings on this topic.
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There IS PLENTY of apps on the play store that offer home screen and lock screen customization, such as launcherpro, milocker, gosms, as far as changing the status bar and battery bar i'm not so sure, i haven't been on a phone with s-on in a while and can't tell you what rootless tweaks would work

[IDEA] CM10 on N7105

Hi guys,
I think it's worth starting a separate topic for running CyanogenMod on the N7105 since we're clearly not getting our own section any time soon. I think there is a LOT of push behind getting CM10 running on the N7100 and this seems to be now progressing nicely with only a few bugs remaining. The problem is, us N7105 owners (LTE version) have been left running TW which I don't know about you but I absolutely DETEST!
As such, I figured it would be worthwhile getting all of the N7105 owners in one thread and see if we can hack together a method of getting our radio working properly on this wonderful ROM! There is another topic regarding creating a 'flashpack' but this focuses primarily on TouchWiz which isn't something I'm interested - switching TW to TW? Why bother? What I want is to run AOSP/CM on this wonderful device and enjoy the wonders of 4G with that lovely screen without all the samsung bloat and hopefully in tablet mode!
My current thinking on this is (and I intend to try this a little later today):
- Flash CM10 (N7100) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968949
- Flash our stock radio - backup original radio before flashing any firmware
- Flash Perseus N7105 kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
It would be interesting to get a complete list of what we've tried and what has/hasn't worked - that way we make it easier for both ourselves and any developers who decide to take a look at this and they can at least save some time! I did talk to 'imilka' (dev of the CM10 port) and he said he will take a look when he gets the time so that's promising at least!

chrisaw said:
My current thinking on this is (and I intend to try this a little later today):
- Flash CM10 (N7100) -
- Flash our stock radio - backup original radio before flashing any firmware
- Flash Perseus N7105 kernel -
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Won't work as Perseus isn't an AOSP compatible kernel

D3_ said:
Won't work as Perseus isn't an AOSP compatible kernel
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Sadly that's the conclusion I came to too - ah well, was worth a shot. It looks like part of the problem is the build.prop differences which is easily fixed. There was also mentions of differences in the paths for certain files as well as missing files for LTE usage. It does sound like this should be a very simple fix if we can compare the differences between stock N7100 and stock N7105 - surely combining the two should produce a working ROM. Then it's just a matter of finding out which specific parts are needed to get AOSP rocking.
It's a shame the stock Samsung kernel for the N7105 wont work with CM10. Any kernel devs fancy helping us out with this one?

I will compile an AOSP kernel for N7105 soon, however, it's not just the kernel, and i'm not really sure there's an easy way that you would expect to exist

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I will compile an AOSP kernel for N7105 soon, however, it's not just the kernel, and i'm not really sure there's an easy way that you would expect to exist
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Well the current N7100 kernel does work for us - its likely just missing a few modules for LTE (if at all.)
certainly appreciate you looking in to this though!

I assume that the fact our network lock details are stored differently, and the associated dialer hidden functions don't work are link to the fact that a n7100 leaves us without signal even with our radio. I also imagine any fix would help in identifying what files needs to be changed to remove network lock.
Overall I get the imprssion our device is more similar to the USA lte versions which would be unsurprising.
I was looking into how to root, deox, etc the stock rom but I dont hace Linux running atm.
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EmptyArea said:
I assume that the fact our network lock details are stored differently, and the associated dialer hidden functions don't work are link to the fact that a n7100 leaves us without signal even with our radio. I also imagine any fix would help in identifying what files needs to be changed to remove network lock.
Overall I get the imprssion our device is more similar to the USA lte versions which would be unsurprising.
I was looking into how to root, deox, etc the stock rom but I dont hace Linux running atm.
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That makes sense! Hopefully we can 'rally' the devs to help out - we already have one helping! It's just a shame that all we need is a few tweaks (possibly in the form of a flash-pack) and we'd be good to go and start enjoying CM10! If there's one thing I can't stand it's TouchWiz, bloated junk IMO!

EmptyArea said:
I was looking into how to root, deox, etc the stock rom but I dont hace Linux running atm.
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You can root and deodex stock roms in Windows with cygwin and to make it even easier, you can use dsixda android kitchen.

Have to admit, I do find it extremely strange that Xda Developers forum has opted to ignore the existence of the N7105. It's very popular over here in the UK and elsewhere in the world and is set to get even more popular as LTE is adopted in more places around the globe. Would make getting developers to notice us a lot easier if we had our own forum IMO! >_<

chrisaw said:
Have to admit, I do find it extremely strange that Xda Developers forum has opted to ignore the existence of the N7105. It's very popular over here in the UK and elsewhere in the world and is set to get even more popular as LTE is adopted in more places around the globe. Would make getting developers to notice us a lot easier if we had our own forum IMO! >_<
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Yeah man. sad case is that development for this phone model is zero to none. We are able to root n use perseus kernel bt for the only difference btween n7105 and n7100 is just the LTE and none of the roms are available to be used. Felt so left out coz of the issues in the radio firmware just coz one is lte n the other is not.
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There is a custom rom out for the n7105
Its just not hosted on xda
Im running it with no issues
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Got a name or URL?

Here is the link to the rom http://bbs.gfan.com/android-5285960-1-1.html
Here is the link to the download http://www.multiupload.co.uk/BZY1HLBX53
And here is its feature list
Features:
. Production based on N7105ZHALJ4 Hong Kong version of Android 4.1.1
Firmware uncompacted app
The. Using N7105ZHALJ4 original kernel
Boot Simplified Chinese
System language to Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese (Hong Kong & Taiwan), Korean, Chinese and English
Smart dialing retrieval
. IP dialing
. Call recording
. Calls attribution
Lunar calendar
. Blocking mode
Signed information
Support emoji expressions
. Shutdown alarm clock
Advanced Power key
Overall Deodex
With Root and Rights Management
The the Chinese access point and Chinese operators
Status bar drop-down button 15
. Lifted SMS and MMS limit
Camera selectable silent pictures.
. Join optimization script
Cancel Ringtones three seconds from weak to strong
. BusyBox
Call log removal and multimedia messages
. Shutdown sound
Join the restart tool, R.E Manager, a key lock screen
Update the Google play and Google map
. hosts file acceleration
Custom multi-window program
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While I do appreciate that - I'm not really keen on running any form of TouchWiz on my device. I just absolutely detest the modifications Samsung made to AOSP - CM is really the ideal setup for this phone. It also means we can run true tablet mode which on a Note 2 is a fantastic experience.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but unless N7105 becomes the only Note2 available and distribution exceeds that of N7100 the development for this device will be as limited as it is for the I9305 compared to the I9300.

victorator said:
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but unless N7105 becomes the only Note2 available and distribution exceeds that of N7100 the development for this device will be as limited as it is for the I9305 compared to the I9300.
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With the i9305 there is a flash pack as far as I'm aware which allows you to flash i9300 ROMs and simply flash a flash-pack and i9305 kernel to allow you to run custom ROMs. This doesn't yet exist for the Note 2 and I'm not really asking for anything outlandish here - I'm just asking for CM10 on the N7105 *and* I'm even willing to throw money at this to make it happen. May be worth raising a thread for us N7105 owners to donate to developers who are supporting our device actually since while N7100 development is wonderful it doesn't benefit us in the slightest until we have a patched kernel, etc. to support AOSP/CM10 on our devices.

chrisaw said:
With the i9305 there is a flash pack as far as I'm aware which allows you to flash i9300 ROMs and simply flash a flash-pack and i9305 kernel to allow you to run custom ROMs. This doesn't yet exist for the Note 2 and I'm not really asking for anything outlandish here - I'm just asking for CM10 on the N7105 *and* I'm even willing to throw money at this to make it happen. May be worth raising a thread for us N7105 owners to donate to developers who are supporting our device actually since while N7100 development is wonderful it doesn't benefit us in the slightest until we have a patched kernel, etc. to support AOSP/CM10 on our devices.
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I'm not aware of such thing unfortunately...maybe I missed it in the I9305 forum?
I think the case was with the S2 I9100T variant where you could just replace the modem with your T modem and still flash any standard I9100 rom.
There are many similarities between the two variants I bet, but as it turned out the I9305 doesn't have FM radio. It might not be the most important thing in the world however it points to how different the devices might actually be.

That's the same difference as the N7100 and N7105. The FM radio was replaced with an LTE radio it seems.
Have to say though, its a small price to pay for the 26Mbit speeds I'm getting from mine!

No updates on this?

Verizon model ROM

If I was to start developing a custom ROM based on the latest ICS update for the Verizon model of this tab.... would there be any interest ?
I ask because last time I took the time to do one for the Verizon SGT (the original 7 incher) there wasn't that many interested "customers"

NRGZ28 said:
If I was to start developing a custom ROM based on the latest ICS update for the Verizon model of this tab.... would there be any interest ?
I ask because last time I took the time to do one for the Verizon SGT (the original 7 incher) there wasn't that many interested "customers"
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I would be interested.

NRGZ28 said:
If I was to start developing a custom ROM based on the latest ICS update for the Verizon model of this tab.... would there be any interest ?
I ask because last time I took the time to do one for the Verizon SGT (the original 7 incher) there wasn't that many interested "customers"
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Even if there isn't many "customers", there's always the personal challenge, satisfaction and self education Good luck
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UpInTheAir said:
Even if there isn't many "customers", there's always the personal challenge, satisfaction and self education Good luck
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True.. I'm past all that at this level and it would just be the time invested. Sounds like it's not worth it. Heh

If you did an ICS rom and left the samsung video player in it and added ntfssd (from google play) or compiled your own kernel that would use exfat or ntfs (TWRP supports exfat) for large file support I would test it.
Keep in mind ICS has been done, but If you could figure out how to port kitkat to the device that would be awesome. Kitkat is supposed to have great memory management. The galaxy 7.7 only has 1GB of system memory HC ran fast on it but ICS is a bit of a dog even with bloat removed and tweaks applied. The port of PAC rom to the i815 gave me issues due to incorrectly signed files in the rom.

I haven't checked the general section on this forum for a long time but yea I still use my i815 quite often and the lack of stock development has been extremely disappointing. But there is a lot of driver work afaik particularly with the IR and LTE. I don't have a data plan on my i815 anymore but from time to time I may throw my phone SIM in there. Biggest thing for me over the other ROMs is having the function of the full hardware. I personally dislike touchwiz thoroughly with the exception of multiwindow features
So yea
I would definitely be interested there are likely a few others who would be interested but don't frequent this section. The i815 info thread I think still have a decent number of subscribers.

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True.. I'm past all that at this level and it would just be the time invested. Sounds like it's not worth it. Heh
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Any further thought on this?

Currently I use in my car as a glorified GPS I might do a rom for it in the future

[ROM][SM-T800] stock Deodexed FN8

[LSD] Proudly Present​Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Stock ROM Deodexed [Rooted]​
Code:
Bla bla your warranty is void and you know that :rolleyes: or is it?
*Screenshots are taken from a note 10.1 (2012 edition) but apps are from Tab-S!
For changelog go to post 2
For information go to post 3
*Stock Modified Boot.img
*Stock Kernel
*Deodexed
*Zipaligned
*Init.d support
*Busybox
*Unsecure Kernel
*More stuff i don't remember
*Knox Removed Partially [Not sure if its in kernel as well]
*SE Linux Enforcing [Kernel sources ins't out or?]
Install Instructions
Extract updater-script to desktop and edit the partition details
repack the zip and flash using CWM Recovery
Special Thanks to
@open1your1eyes0
Download
P.S If you succeeded downloading the torrent please feel free to upload it to a host, i don't have access to any good file hosting service

Changelog
v0.1
Initial relase once CWM is available please report

Feel free to use this package however you wan't to.
You can even improve it however you wan't to i don't mind. No credits are needed i'm just here for sharing

Can't wait to try this
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Thanks for this....BUT...custom recovery would be nice. Anyone working on it?

Patiently waiting for custom recovery! Look forward to trying this.

iMJets said:
Patiently waiting for custom recovery! Look forward to trying this.
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Well I don't think anyone is working on it, so we are stuck with stock. I'm sure eventually we will, but Dev action on this thing is poor.

suzook said:
Well I don't think anyone is working on it, so we are stuck with stock. I'm sure eventually we will, but Dev action on this thing is poor.
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Have you heard something? I never owned something that did not have cool stuff.

One of the problems facing the S model is that Samsung just came out with the Pro model and most of the people who wanted a tablet of this caliber already bought that. If there never had been a Pro model I feel confident we would be getting a lot more activity.
Anyway we already have root and at least the 8.4 guys have a kernel.

mitchellvii said:
One of the problems facing the S model is that Samsung just came out with the Pro model and most of the people who wanted a tablet of this caliber already bought that. If there never had been a Pro model I feel confident we would be getting a lot more activity.
Anyway we already have root and at least the 8.4 guys have a kernel.
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Only reason we have root,is beanstown did us a favor. If he had a tab, We would have custom recovery and custom ROMs already. I really don't understand why people won't donate a device.

mitchellvii said:
One of the problems facing the S model is that Samsung just came out with the Pro model and most of the people who wanted a tablet of this caliber already bought that. If there never had been a Pro model I feel confident we would be getting a lot more activity.
Anyway we already have root and at least the 8.4 guys have a kernel.
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indeed

suzook said:
Only reason we have root,is beanstown did us a favor. If he had a tab, We would have custom recovery and custom ROMs already. I really don't understand why people won't donate a device.
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Because xda is based wholly on developers doing others favors and not on being compensated in advance to do so. Anyone who enjoys bean's work is free to donate to him after the fact. Xda is a volunteer network, not a marketplace.
Just be patient. We'll get our share of kernels and roms eventually. It's not like the Tab S is a worthless brick without it. For me this performs better than any tablet I've ever owned as is.

Exactly. And it isn't as though you can't get much of what you would want from a custom ROM via Xposed, launchers, and the like.

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Exactly. And it isn't as though you can't get much of what you would want from a custom ROM via Xposed, launchers, and the like.
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Exactly. Other than CM, most roms are just themed debloated stock with some Xposed thrown in.
** Edit: I put this badly. What I meant was that roms seem to people like themed debloated stock with some Xposed thrown in. They are not the game changers they used to be when these devices had weak processors and a few hundred extra benchmark points really meant something.
Roms are awesome, but they aren't as vital as they once were.

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Exactly. Other than CM, most roms are just themed debloated stock with some Xposed thrown in.
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I couldn't disagree more. That's ridiculous.

mitchellvii said:
Exactly. Other than CM, most roms are just themed debloated stock with some Xposed thrown in.
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Couldn't disagree with you more. There are alot of edits done to system files that you don't know about. Alot of work goes into incorporating those mods that people like you take for granted. Please don't be ignorant.

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Exactly. Other than CM, most roms are just themed debloated stock with some Xposed thrown in.
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I have built & released custom ROMs based on Samsung official firmware.
There is a huge amount of work involved to create these ROMs and even more to support them. That's why I quit. ... (Not enough time in the day). I rarely used Xposed except for unsupported DPI changes.
Samsung "stock" ROMs are based on official Samsung firmware.
CM is "stock" ROM based on official Google source.
Based on the above, both CM and Samsung "custom" ROMs are both "stock" and "custom" (as in customised)..... If you customise anything, then it is "custom"
I am sure though that your post doesn't exactly read what you really meant.
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Let me clarify. I think I put that badly.
While roms are quite an bit more work than just debloating, theming and using xposed, many of them feel to the user like that was all that was done, especially with these incredibly fast new processors that can overpower and make even not the best code run fast and smooth. I recall years ago when the HTC Evo came out. A good rom could make a HUGE difference in performance. Now take the Note 3. Using a great rom there by Freeza. Sure it's a little better than stock but the improvement isn't nearly as dramatic as in the past.
I guess my overall point is this. The Tab S is such an excellent device that even if if no one ever creates a rom for us, we will still be able to have a fast solid machine. Roms are awesome but they are not the game changers they once were.

mitchellvii said:
Let me clarify. I think I put that badly.
While roms are quite an bit more work than just debloating, theming and using xposed, many of them feel to the user like that was all that was done, especially with these incredibly fast new processors that can overpower and make even not the best code run fast and smooth. I recall years ago when the HTC Evo came out. A good rom could make a HUGE difference in performance. Now take the Note 3. Using a great rom there by Freeza. Sure it's a little better than stock but the improvement isn't nearly as dramatic in the past.
I guess my overall point is this. The Tab S is such an excellent device that even if if no one ever creates a rom for us, we will still be able to have a fast solid machine. Roms are awesome but they are not the game changers they once were.
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I couldn't more then agree with you.
We already got the horse power of the tablet I never over clocked my s4 or note 10.1 because I don't feel the need to. Basically its the New features of other devices I'm curious to try out. that's why note 10.1 (2012) got the file manager from this tab and it's beautiful. A Rom is fast with a good options to choose for the user so he can make it his. Speed isn't anything that's basically needed of course its fun to use the max power but for the love of your tablet be careful. that's why I haven't included anything of these kind of apps.
Also just to mention one app is missing because it didn't deodex successfully. will add it as an optional package.
Again this is just a pure stock deodex rom I don't own this tablet but I decided since i used it for porting and there was no deodexed rom I'd make one. Does anyone know what partition boot image is at?
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Wasn't Xposed designed to give the average user access to customizations they would typically only get in a rom previously? Sort of like a WYSIWYG editor instead of writing out the code by hand? And launchers speed up your experience in many of the ways only roms used to. With root and a decent app anyone can debloat their rig.
So many of the things we used to need roms for we no longer do. Of course roms like CM make a bigger difference but then again you give up some cool functionality. It's like taking the surround sound out of a racecar. Yeah you go faster but you miss your tunes (or split screen as the case may be).
Anyway, for me root and a good kernel are essential. Roms? A luxury but no longer the staple they used to be. That's not to say luxuries aren't nice and I'm sure I'll indulge if a certified developer cooks one up for us, but even if they never do I'm ok. This tablet still rocks.
DISCLAIMER: Everything I've written here is simply my opinion and the viewpoint of a non developer. I am not attempting to pontificate some greater truth, it's simply how I see it. If you disagree with me that's all good. It's a big tent here and room for lots of different viewpoints. ☺