do you think it'll make any difference??? would it be better or worse? should we change our N1s soon
http://mashable.com/2010/07/26/htc-super-lcd/
HTC officially announced it will be swapping AMOLED with Super LCD (SLCD) displays in several of its phones later this summer, including the Desire and Nexus One.
The reason, according to HTC, is high demand for phones with 3.7 inch displays, and low availability of AMOLED screens.
Whether AMOLED screens are better than LCD screens is debatable, but buyers of these SLCD-equipped versions of HTC smartphones get an added benefit: better batery life. “The SLCD displays provide consumers with a comparable visual experience to HTC’s current 3.7 inch displays with some additional benefits including battery performance,” said HTC CEO Peter Chou.
This sheds light onto Apple’s reasoning for choosing LCD technology for its iPhone 4. When Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone 4, he said its LCD retina display is “quite a bit better than OLED displays.” It’s quite possible, however, that Apple went with LCD technology because it estimated that AMOLEDs will be in short supply.
already a thread on this on the first page of the general forum.
The Korean Digital Daily paper that often leaks insider info about its home turf electronics companies, today comes with something more about the internal struggles in Samsung regarding the Galaxy S III design.
The team wanted an entirely buttonless front, like on the Galaxy Nexus, and the whole design work revolved around it, almost until the final product was sent to the factories. A heated debate happened in the last minute, though, splitting the designers into two teams – one in favor of on-screen buttons only, something that can come standard with Android Ice Cream Sandwich, and the other asking for at least a physical home button, so the Galaxy S design line heritage is not lost completely.
In the end, a compromise seems to have been made, the bezel and button area beneath the screen shrunk, but the phone has been sent to the assembly lines with a rectangular home key instead of a completely buttonless design. Whether or not this is the case, we will see as early as next month, when the phone will be announced, says the source.
Another very interesting bit is Samsung’s reported decision to grace the Galaxy S III with a 5-row UI layout, like on the Galaxy Note phablet, instead of the usual four-row TouchWiz we had so far on the first two Galaxy S phones. The screen size, which is reported to be anywhere between 4.6-4.8″ would certainly warrant a good five-row experience, especially if the 720p Super AMOLED is with a normal RGB matrix for the first time, as rumored.
Last but not least, Samsung has allegedly been able to keep an Apple-style secrecy around the device, driving the whole tech blogosphere into a high-gear rumor mode, because it has supplied the carriers with a generic box that shows the screen and has openings to all the ports for access, but the true design remains hidden even from the testers, so nobody really knows how the thing will look like, a month and change before the supposed announcement.
Please post all rumors, speculation, news, etc about the successor to the Galaxy S II in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401781
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I have owned the Galaxy Tab 10.1 since its launch date last June. With all of the competing tablets that have arrived on the market since that time, along with the soon-to-be-released Asus Infinity, none of them have matched the Tab 10.1 in four areas that I highly value in a tablet.
1) Comfort. The 10.1’s smooth contoured border and the etched plastic backing makes it comfortable to hold, keeps the device lightweight, and provides enough grip to feel secure in the hands without using a third-party shell. I owned the iPad 3 for a couple of weeks and had to use a TPU case with it -- not only to protect the scratch prone aluminum backing, but also to dull its sharp tapered edge and provide a sufficient grip. I have to mention that adding a TPU shell also adds substantial weight to an already “heavy” tablet.
2) Color uniformity and the lack of backlight bleed. The 10.1 is the only tablet I have seen that has solid color uniformity and zero backlight bleed. Yellow and pink blotches on the iPad 3’s display are what made me hesitantly it. I was going to exchange it for a new one, but from what I have read, the blotchy display pattern is still ubiquitous and I wasn’t going to try my hand at finding the diamond on the rough.
3) Speaker placement. I am surprised that even Samsung moved away from their original speaker placement for the Galaxy Tab 2. The current speaker design found on the Tab 2 and the Galaxy Note 10.1 looks tack to me in comparison. IMO, no other speaker arrangement beats the original Tab 10.1 The speakers provide crystal clear stereo sound while remaining hidden along the tablet’s border. They are also in the least likely areas to be covered up by the hands or chest. I do hope Samsung will decide to return to the original speaker arrangement in their next Tab iteration. Finding out that the Asus Infinity maintains a mono speaker layout was a definite disappointment does make me reconsider that device as an upgrade path.
4) An logo free black bezel. This is one attribute that some people may not notice, but I certainly do appreciate. There is just something about having a clean black bezel tha the remains uniform when holding the tablet both in landscape and portrait. I’m not sure if Apple bullied Samsung into putting their logo on all of their devices, but I would like to see the return of logo free bezels on Android tablets. I don’t believe this design criterion should be patentable.
So now it is a year since release of the Tab 10.1. Because I use the tablet mainly as a reading device, resolution does matter for me. If the Galaxy Note 10.1 does indeed have a 1280x800 display, I really can’t consider it as a next-gen device with the 2012 releases of the iPad 3 and Asus Infinity. At this point, I may just continue to wait this year out. The fabled Samsung Galaxy Tab 11.6" with 2560x1600 resolution is what I am waiting for.
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I have owned the Galaxy Tab 10.1 since its launch date last June. With all of the competing tablets that have arrived on the market since that time, along with the soon-to-be-released Asus Infinity, none of them have matched the Tab 10.1 in four areas that I highly value in a tablet.
1) Comfort. The 10.1’s smooth contoured border.......
2) Color uniformity and the lack of backlight.......
3) Speaker placement. I am surprised that even Samsung moved away from their original speaker placement for the Galaxy Tab 2. The current speaker design found on the Tab 2 and the Galaxy Note 10.1 looks tack to me in comparison. IMO, no other speaker arrangement beats the original Tab 10.1 The speakers provide crystal clear stereo sound while remaining hidden along the tablet’s border. They are also in the least likely areas to be covered up by the hands or chest. I do hope Samsung will decide to return to the original speaker arrangement in their next Tab iteration. Finding out that the Asus Infinity maintains a mono speaker layout was a definite disappointment does make me reconsider that device as an upgrade path.
4) An logo free black bezel. This is one attribute that some people may not notice, but I certainly do appreciate. There is just something about having a clean black bezel tha the remains uniform when holding the tablet both in landscape and portrait. I’m not sure if Apple bullied Samsung into putting their logo on all of their devices, but I would like to see the return of logo free bezels on Android tablets. I don’t believe this design criterion should be patentable.
So now it is a year since release of the Tab 10.1. Because I use the tablet mainly as a reading device, resolution does matter for me. If the Galaxy Note 10.1 does indeed have a 1280x800 display, I really can’t consider it as a next-gen device with the 2012 releases of the iPad 3 and Asus Infinity. At this point, I may just continue to wait this year out. The fabled Samsung Galaxy Tab 11.6" with 2560x1600 resolution is what I am waiting for.
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I'm with you on points 1 & 2 completely. But on points 3 & 4, not so much.
On point 3... Samsung "had" setup to change the speaker layout... Apple won the court case so Samsung had to redesign the original Tab10.1 so it could sell them over seas. That's how we got the Galaxy10.1n.
On point 4... I have a Grey 16G Wifi only Tab and it has no logo on it. Do 3g/LTE Tabs (Verizon, AT&T...) have a logo?
And as for a next generation tablet from Samsung... That would be the Galaxy Note 10.1... Quad core processor, better all around screen, more ram and Spen technology.... I think Samsung was more concerned with cornering the market on size and quantity..... Just saying.
But I'm also with you on the waiting thing. I'm happy with my Tab and everything it dose.
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Cleanskinned said:
I have owned the Galaxy Tab 10.1 since its launch date last June. With all of the competing tablets that have arrived on the market since that time, along with the soon-to-be-released Asus Infinity, none of them have matched the Tab 10.1 in four areas that I highly value in a tablet.
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I agree with most of what you say but while it was the best possible tablet when I bought it in early January, I wouldn't buy a G.Tab 10.1" (or a Tab 2) today. I would rather buy a Transformer TF300 or wait a little longer for the Note 10.1" or the Transformer Infinity or even the Acer Iconia A700.
1) Comfort.
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Definitely, it's still one of the lighest and slimmest tablets around, one of the most comfortable to hold, one of the better looking and I HATE metal back panels for a lot of reasons (feel in hand, weight, signal interferance etc) so really I find the G.Tab 10.1" simply ideal.
2) Color uniformity and the lack of backlight bleed.
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Yes, very good display (and good GPS and very good Wi-Fi reception). Good cameras too, with flash which occasionally comes handy in more ways than one. I like the overall design a lot.
3) Speaker placement.
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Like another poster has already told yuo they HAD to redesign the tablet. What I find absurd is that some of the new tablets around today are very similar to our version of G.Tab...
4) An logo free black bezel. This is one attribute that some people may not notice, but I certainly do appreciate. There is just something about having a clean black bezel tha the remains uniform when holding the tablet both in landscape and portrait. I’m not sure if Apple bullied Samsung into putting their logo on all of their devices, but I would like to see the return of logo free bezels on Android tablets. I don’t believe this design criterion should be patentable.
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I would rather have no logo at all on a full black bezel but the the logo I have on my G.Tab is "low visibility" (much less, for example, than that on my Note), a smart move.
Actually, I see only 2 cons to this tablet: lack of SD card slot and incomplete 3G functionality (SMS works but I would LOVE to get full phone capability like in the Tab 2).
So now it is a year since release of the Tab 10.1. Because I use the tablet mainly as a reading device, resolution does matter for me. If the Galaxy Note 10.1 does indeed have a 1280x800 display, I really can’t consider it as a next-gen device with the 2012 releases of the iPad 3 and Asus Infinity. At this point, I may just continue to wait this year out. The fabled Samsung Galaxy Tab 11.6" with 2560x1600 resolution is what I am waiting for.
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Yes I would definitely like to have a higher resolution display but I am thinking about 1920x1200, I am not interested at all in these ultra-high resolutions because they are totally overkill on 10" screens (or 11.6", for that matter). They just add weight, thickness and price and shorten battery runtime. I blame Apple for putting this BS marketing gimmick into people's minds (they are probably overcompensating because their iCrap1 and iCrap2 have the lowest PPI screen of all the tablets... :laugh: )
Does the note 10.1 count as a rumored tablet by Samsung?
My life for Aiur
I think the speaker placement on the Tab is HORRIBLE. When listening to music or a movie I need to cup my hands over the side of the Tab to hear it well. The Note does it right and I'm tempted to get a Note when it comes out just for this feature alone.
However, I think that the Asus Infinity, which will soon be out, will be the one to get. It will be my replacement for the Tab.
I had the 7.0 tab first then igot the 10.1. i am looking forward to a better customized tablet. The picture quality on this tab, for me, is horrible. I have the gsm version and most of the time i can only pick up a signal on wifi. i think the note would be better for me but i do enjoy the size of the screen.
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"According to the Korea Times, Samsung is trying to put a 6.3-inch display in the next iteration of the Galaxy Note. The Galaxy Note II, which launched relatively recently, debuted with a 5.5-inch display, already a step up from the original Note’s 5-inch screen....."
http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/13/bigger-is-better-samsung-will-allegedly-slap-a-6-3-display-on-the-galaxy-note-iii/
Are you going to buy it ?
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Nope.Too big. Also I would still be under contract
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
My thoughts exactly, 6.3" is way too big,
Had a Note 2 for a couple of days on a new contract and although you do get used to the screen size of the Note 2 pretty quick, I would not really be tempted to get anything bigger, really happy with the Note 2
Nope, 6.3 is a step, well 0.8 of a step too far. 5.5 is big but manageable.
Its bad enough holding the note 2 against your ear, may as well hold a laptop to your ear at 6.3"
I really hope that they dont go down that route
That's too big. If is flexible/bendable screen then I might consider it
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Actually, what they may do is have 2 versions of the Note III.... say a 5.5 (same size as the N2) and then a larger one for those that need the screen size but dont want to carry two devices around.... maybe those that use the data connectivity more than as a phone.
It's a rumor.
The title of this thread is misleading. Since it's an unsubstantiated rumor from a single source, the GN3 "may have" a 6.3" display. All the media outlets glommed on to a single paragraph buried at the end of a 16 paragraph long story on Samsung's overall LCD business. A 7" Note has already passed through various certification bodies and is likely to be launched in Q1 2013. Why would Samsung have three devices (5.5, 6.3, 7") so close together in size? Regardless of the display size, anything physically larger than the Note II would be almost impossible to use as a phone.
Here;s the entire article:
Samsung to reduce investment in LCD
By Kim Yoo-chul
Samsung Electronics is moving to reduce investment in its liquid crystal display (LCD) unit as the firm has shifted the focus of its screen business to organic light-emitting diode (OLED) and plastic-based flexible displays.
The move comes as the world’s biggest flat-screen manufacturer has realigned its business as the conventional global LCD industry is still facing higher panel supply due to an increase in retail inventories caused by a slowdown in consumer purchases amid the global economic uncertainty.
``The real problem is that major television markets like the United States remain sluggish. This is much worse than display-making manufacturers expected. In contrast, the demand for tablets is increasing and that market will see further explosive demand growth next year,’’ said one official from Samsung, requesting anonymity.
Rather than spending more on large-sized LCD screens, the display-making giant has sped up its move to shift some of its existing LCD lines for televisions to those better fitted for tablets. It plans to inject more cash in small, medium, and large-sized OLED screens.
``The global LCD industry is seeing signs of a major shift as Samsung is spending less on conventional LCDs. With money saved from LCD restructuring, the firm plans to spend more on OLED and flexible displays. Profitability is the top priority for Samsung’s display-making business next year,’’ said an executive from one of Samsung’s key local parts suppliers by telephone on Monday.
``Because the LCD industry is approaching full saturation, Samsung, as well as its biggest rival LG Display, is expected to lower investment for its LCD plant in southern China. The reason is simple. LCD is no longer a cash generator,’’ said another senior executive from a Samsung subcontractor.
As of the end of the first nine months of this year, Samsung invested 3.7 trillion won on displays including OLEDs and LCDs, according to figures that Samsung filed with the Korea Exchange (KRX). In January, Samsung said it planned to invest 6.6 trillion won in displays for 2012.
Market analysts and fund managers that put display-related stocks on their investment portfolios have no doubt that the company is going to restructure its money-losing LCD business to put more focus on OLEDs and flexible screens.
The latest data indicates that sales during typically strong third and fourth quarters in the United States, the single biggest market for flat-screen TVs, are suffering amid a slower-than-expected economic recovery.
``That’s why Samsung plans to cut its workforce at its LCD-making division capitalizing on ranking executives. The layoff portion would be around 7 to 8 percent of the total,’’ an industry source said asking not to be named.
Samsung is set to invest as much a 6 trillion won next year mainly for the promising screens. The source said the firm is going to allocate just some 1.8 trillion won for LCDs.
Samsung Electronics, the biggest shareholder of its display-making affiliate of Samsung Display, is pushing the sales of its OLED-embedded Web-connected Galaxy line of devices, meaning the group’s OLED business will receive more attention from top management and attract significantly-increased investment.
Samsung Electronics is working on the Galaxy SIV, which will be introduced in February’s Mobile World Congress (MWC). The Korea Times was the first to report the new Galaxy plan.
In a related note, the world’s biggest technology company has been developing the Galaxy Note III with a 6.3-inch screen using an OLED display, according to officials from a local parts suppliers, while the company will start the first commercial sale of 55-inch OLED TVs from late next year.
In a recent year-end reshuffle of top management, Samsung replaced the head of its display unit with technology expert Kim Ki-nam, a former chief of Samsung Technology Center.
``We can’t resist but to actively respond to the new market trend. We will invest in conventional LCDs. But the investment amount won’t be too high. Restructuring is under way.’’
I hope that by the next time I am buying a phone when my contract is up, we will be able to fold them into our pockets.
The perfect way to have a big screen and still have portability.
6.3 is insane.. I call BS
Bring it on, my hands are big enough. Real men with real hands need real devices.
Unsubstantiated rumour about a device that won't exist for at least 9 months? Why yes....
I heard the Note7 will be 6723.89 inches.
6.3"? Hell NO.
6.3" flexible? Might consider.
5.5" or same? Definitely YES.
5.5" is enough already, at least for my taste, and we don't need a screen size upgradation but other stuffs.
BarryH_GEG said:
The title of this thread is misleading. Since it's an unsubstantiated rumor from a single source, the GN3 "may have" a 6.3" display. All the media outlets glommed on to a single paragraph buried at the end of a 16 paragraph long story on Samsung's overall LCD business. A 7" Note has already passed through various certification bodies and is likely to be launched in Q1 2013. Why would Samsung have three devices (5.5, 6.3, 7") so close together in size? Regardless of the display size, anything physically larger than the Note II would be almost impossible to use as a phone.
Here;s the entire article:
Samsung to reduce investment in LCD
By Kim Yoo-chul
Samsung Electronics is moving to reduce investment in its liquid crystal display (LCD) unit as the firm has shifted the focus of its screen business to organic light-emitting diode (OLED) and plastic-based flexible displays.
The move comes as the world’s biggest flat-screen manufacturer has realigned its business as the conventional global LCD industry is still facing higher panel supply due to an increase in retail inventories caused by a slowdown in consumer purchases amid the global economic uncertainty.
``The real problem is that major television markets like the United States remain sluggish. This is much worse than display-making manufacturers expected. In contrast, the demand for tablets is increasing and that market will see further explosive demand growth next year,’’ said one official from Samsung, requesting anonymity.
Rather than spending more on large-sized LCD screens, the display-making giant has sped up its move to shift some of its existing LCD lines for televisions to those better fitted for tablets. It plans to inject more cash in small, medium, and large-sized OLED screens.
``The global LCD industry is seeing signs of a major shift as Samsung is spending less on conventional LCDs. With money saved from LCD restructuring, the firm plans to spend more on OLED and flexible displays. Profitability is the top priority for Samsung’s display-making business next year,’’ said an executive from one of Samsung’s key local parts suppliers by telephone on Monday.
``Because the LCD industry is approaching full saturation, Samsung, as well as its biggest rival LG Display, is expected to lower investment for its LCD plant in southern China. The reason is simple. LCD is no longer a cash generator,’’ said another senior executive from a Samsung subcontractor.
As of the end of the first nine months of this year, Samsung invested 3.7 trillion won on displays including OLEDs and LCDs, according to figures that Samsung filed with the Korea Exchange (KRX). In January, Samsung said it planned to invest 6.6 trillion won in displays for 2012.
Market analysts and fund managers that put display-related stocks on their investment portfolios have no doubt that the company is going to restructure its money-losing LCD business to put more focus on OLEDs and flexible screens.
The latest data indicates that sales during typically strong third and fourth quarters in the United States, the single biggest market for flat-screen TVs, are suffering amid a slower-than-expected economic recovery.
``That’s why Samsung plans to cut its workforce at its LCD-making division capitalizing on ranking executives. The layoff portion would be around 7 to 8 percent of the total,’’ an industry source said asking not to be named.
Samsung is set to invest as much a 6 trillion won next year mainly for the promising screens. The source said the firm is going to allocate just some 1.8 trillion won for LCDs.
Samsung Electronics, the biggest shareholder of its display-making affiliate of Samsung Display, is pushing the sales of its OLED-embedded Web-connected Galaxy line of devices, meaning the group’s OLED business will receive more attention from top management and attract significantly-increased investment.
Samsung Electronics is working on the Galaxy SIV, which will be introduced in February’s Mobile World Congress (MWC). The Korea Times was the first to report the new Galaxy plan.
In a related note, the world’s biggest technology company has been developing the Galaxy Note III with a 6.3-inch screen using an OLED display, according to officials from a local parts suppliers, while the company will start the first commercial sale of 55-inch OLED TVs from late next year.
In a recent year-end reshuffle of top management, Samsung replaced the head of its display unit with technology expert Kim Ki-nam, a former chief of Samsung Technology Center.
``We can’t resist but to actively respond to the new market trend. We will invest in conventional LCDs. But the investment amount won’t be too high. Restructuring is under way.’’
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Hi Barry, good to see you here. How's the yellow-tint-on-the-SGS2-thread going? Still full of nutjobs ?
Nope, the note 2 is my limit when comes to phone. So no way ill buy a phone bigger than a note 2. Samsung better not make a BIG mistake.
Galaxy tab 7 is a tablet but 6.3 is still a phone? I love my n2 but it isn't easy to carry, not really mobile. Bigger phone is as mobile as a tablet.
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It will be launched with a external mouse and keyboard 6,3 inch is too big for me to be honest.
If they manage to keep overall the same current size and make it even slimmer then why not?
Nope. Why would they make the Note 2 screen smaller than the original Note just to go bigger on the Note 3?
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Nope. Why would they make the Note 2 screen smaller than the original Note just to go bigger on the Note 3?
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Hmmm the screen on Note 2 is actually bigger than original Note..
Hyou mean "rumoured" to have a 6.3inch screen
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It looks like there might be a better Note 3 coming out with confirmed variants of a flexible display and maybe water resistant.
Will the Galaxy F line here be better than the Note 3?
-Metal case
-16mp camera w/ optical image stabilization
-octa-core processor
What makes you think it'll be a Note vs. another line of Samsung's standard phones?
According to ETNews, the so-called Galaxy F could feature cutting-edge hardware specifications and materials that trump those in its current portfolio. Key among the rumored details are an octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel camera with optical image stabilization, and a metal case. This design could see Samsung pushing further into the curved display technology.It's a little early to have buyer's remorse over the N3 when nothing material has been leaked as to what Samsung's working on next. They haven't even gotten the N10.1-2014 to market yet and that's already been formally announced. And if the Galaxy F (if it's real) doesn't have "Note" features and at least a 5.7" display I could care less about how "shiny" it is.
BarryH_GEG said:
What makes you think it'll be a Note vs. another line of Samsung's standard phones?
According to ETNews, the so-called Galaxy F could feature cutting-edge hardware specifications and materials that trump those in its current portfolio. Key among the rumored details are an octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel camera with optical image stabilization, and a metal case. This design could see Samsung pushing further into the curved display technology.It's a little early to have buyer's remorse over the N3 when nothing material has been leaked as to what Samsung's working on next. They haven't even gotten the N10.1-2014 to market yet and that's already been formally announced. And if the Galaxy F (if it's real) doesn't have "Note" features and at least a 5.7" display I could care less about how "shiny" it is.
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I agree about the shiny and screen size part. I know that it won't be an official "Note" series phone but just mentioning it open-endendly for those like myself that are still contemplating upgrading to the Note 3 vs waiting for a better phone only months later.
Also, maybe someone has tripped across more information about it that we'd be interested in