What would you change of your SG-Note - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

I've received my Note 'cause my wife was tired of watching me using a Galaxy Tab PLUs 7.0 P-6200 as my primary phone LOOOOL !!!
I am very glad with it and I am really enjoying the dev section , which is quite more active than the SGT.
There's one thing , though, that I would change in my Note in a heartbeat :
- I hate the position of the volume rocker opposite to the power button. Most of the time I end up pressing both , when I either need to use the volume button or the power button.
- The speaker volume is quite low
What would you change in your Galaxy Note ?
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I hate MHL and it's stupid adaptor. I want normal miniHDMI or HDMI output plus normal microusb like on Motorola Droid. I want to connect my TV and some usb devices to usb-host (like usb joystick, mouse, keyboard or a HDD\usb-flash with films) but I can't because of stupid ass MHL...
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Space on corners should be used to enlarge the screen...

Yes I was hitting that volume button accidentally all the time when I first got it! However you do get used to it.
Yes the speaker volume is low, especially in noisy environments. If you download equalizer and increase the levels to maximum it's much better.
The speaker positioning is a curious design choice. Sometimes it gets muffled by my hand or when on an uneven surface. I used to pull on it accidentally when i was taking out the pen too. I would have preferred it elsewhere.
Why is the camera glass raised on the back? It may be gorilla glass but it's begging to be scratched!
I think the device would have been better with a little more RAM. When swapping between apps (especially the browser) I find I have to wait for it to reload pages.

rowee270 said:
Yes I was hitting that volume button accidentally all the time when I first got it! However you do get used to it.
Yes the speaker volume is low, especially in noisy environments. If you download equalizer and increase the levels to maximum it's much better.
The speaker positioning is a curious design choice. Sometimes it gets muffled by my hand or when on an uneven surface. I used to pull on it accidentally when i was taking out the pen too. I would have preferred it elsewhere.
Why is the camera glass raised on the back? It may be gorilla glass but it's begging to be scratched!
I think the device would have been better with a little more RAM. When swapping between apps (especially the browser) I find I have to wait for it to reload pages.
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If I were Samsung I would raise the RAM to 2G......
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GNote is my first android (I come from iPhone) and have two remarks:
- Power button on top: with the button on the right, every time you put the phone in a dock, you hit it
- Android Apps: this is more general, the OK button is never on the same side, should be standardized either left or right
For the rest I must say Android is more fun

As for the sound,open the Music Application > Settings > Equlizer > Custom and move the Levers all the way Up all of them,you will see the dfference both in the speakers and with the headset.

calvincarlos said:
If I were Samsung I would raise the RAM to 2G......
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That's the only real big change I would implement if I could.
Also...perhaps the build materials could be changed to something more premium. Perhaps poly carbonate plastic or some metalic elements.
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I have the note and its a bit strange to get used to.
I would change a few things like power button on top (essential), i keep pressing it !!!
Other thing i would use is a rubber kind back cover, i have the white one and i find it slippery.
More ram, better battery managment and a mini HDMI. Also very important (for me) would it have been so dificult to put up some covers for the micro usb (and/or the headphone) in plastic or rubber???
I know there are some cases that have them but........... i do see some problems with cases and usb port.
becosemsaida

Funny, I really really like the power button on the side, precisely because it makes it easy to turn the phone off. Dislike buttons on top.
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I would like the note to have:
- CM9 or AOKP ROM with full S-Pen functionality
- 12MP Camera
- 64GB internal memory
- 5" screen
- 1.5 RAM
- Notification led
- Better speaker quality
- 30grs less of weight
- 2.650MAh Battery
- Hdmi port
- Beats audio

as big a screen as it can fit
3500 mah battery (the droid razor max have 3000 so why not the note?)
stereo speakers
2 GB of RAM

pvillasuso said:
I would like the note to have:
- CM9 or AOKP ROM with full S-Pen functionality
- 12MP Camera
- 64GB internal memory
- 5" screen
- 1.5 RAM
- Notification led
- Better speaker quality
- 30grs less of weight
- 2.650MAh Battery
- Hdmi port
- Beats audio
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You've read my thoughts pretty much. The only things I'd add are NFC, and a hot-swappable micro-SDXC slot as I essentially want to use this to backup/upload photos taken with my camera.

Tonio78370 said:
GNote is my first android (I come from iPhone) and have two remarks:
- Power button on top: with the button on the right, every time you put the phone in a dock, you hit it
- Android Apps: this is more general, the OK button is never on the same side, should be standardized either left or right
For the rest I must say Android is more fun
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Yes secondly power button to the top and volume rocker to the right side, I have been using my note for a few months now and though I am used to the phone I still do hit the power button by accidents and its really annoying plus I set my phone with a code so every time i gotta key in my code first, so change of buttons and more ram. Also better auto correct like seriously, I know other are alternative keyboards but basic things like good proper working auto correct must come on the phone by default.
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Hi,
yeah, the power button directly in opposite position isn't the brightest idea
And I'd love a camera button. And "out of the box" battery life and smoothness of SpeedMod-Kernel with flexibility of KingDroid and stability and update frequency of CyanogenMod
Greetz,
Mad

Oh i'm so glad that the power button ISN'T on the top of the device...i hated it so much with my htc sensation!
You have to hold the device tight in yours hands to reach the power button with your index finger one handed OR you have to use both hands...
With the power button positioned on the right it is much easier and much more biomechanical (ehm...lol). Please never ever change that, samsung
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Same here, true HDMI port and power button on top. Also I'd love to see a Note with the same screen technology as the HTC One X, I hate to keep on babying my screen due to amoled burn-in problems. Other than that, all is great.

I dont mind power button position i like it as it is. Im turning screen on with home button and then when im finished tap the power button. Its ok.
I would love the same screen size in a smaller case.
Stereo speakers.
A little stronger battery.
32gb storage min.

Nothing.
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Like many have mentioned before.
I would move the power button.
The amount of times I have held down the power button by mistake and had that menu pop, I believe i have also powered off my device accidently a number of times.
Other then that the only other thing I would change is the faulty emmc chip so I could stop worrying about the dreaded hardbrick.

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Why would they put the charging port on the side?

Really makes it a ***** to use while plugged in. Also, since I'm complaining. How about less programmable keys and instead give us a space bar that's a decent size....
Still the best phone I've ever owned, but do the powers that be really incorporate design choices on purpose to give us something to aspire for?
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sinistersai4d4d said:
Really makes it a ***** to use while plugged in.
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Not that this is a reason...but Blackberries have the charge-port on the side -- a lot of them do anyway.
When you're using a phone like the G2 (or my TP2) in landscape I think it's better on the side. That way it hangs straight down between my hands, rather than where my right hand is (as it is on my TP2). But...yeah, not good in portrait mode.
I personally think it's much, much better on the side. I usually hold the phone with my right hand so it doesn't get in the way when I'm using it in portrait, and having it on the side is a godsend when using it in landscape.
I assume most people use their phone 90% of the time in portrait mode. But yes, in landscape it's fine. I spent the summer on an iPhone after using a rooted G1 for 18 months (cyanogen of course).
The only things I miss from jailbroken iPhone are 1) Bottom plug, 2) virtual keyboard (Swype/Stock/Swift still don't come close FOR ME), 3) Home Button/Track Pad press to wake up screen, 5) SBSettings and 4) WORDS WITH FRIENDS!!!!!
Otherwise it's like a breath of fresh air being back on Android. I'm confident that 4 of those 5 things will be fixed if root ever gets implemented.
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On my nexus and touch slide the port was on the bottom. I liked it for when I charged my phone while driving. If it had to be on a side, I would prefer the other side. Love this phone though.
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I assume most people use their phone 90% of the time in portrait mode.
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I'll use it 90% of the time without the cord plugged in at all.
I charge overnight and am not a heavy user.
MCbrian said:
I'll use it 90% of the time without the cord plugged in at all.
I charge overnight and am not a heavy user.
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Good point. I know once this phones novelty wears off I won't have it plugged in so much lol.
Im glad they put it on the side. If they put it on the bottom it would be hard to TYPE on the keyboard.
Much worse if you ask me.
Yellowfrizbee said:
Im glad they put it on the side. If they put it on the bottom it would be hard to TYPE on the keyboard.
Much worse if you ask me.
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Well if you spend more time typing on the physical keyboard than you do doing browsing, twitter, music, games, and making phone calls.. then yeah. Sure. I use the keyboard for long emails and message board posts. That's not the majority of my day realistically though.
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Well if you spend more time typing on the physical keyboard than you do doing browsing, twitter, music, games, and making phone calls.. then yeah. Sure. I use the keyboard for long emails and message board posts. That's not the majority of my day realistically though.
Hey does anybody else get aroused by their benchmarks?
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The part about X-Ray Specs gets me goin a bit...
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Well if you spend more time typing on the physical keyboard than you do doing browsing, twitter, music, games, and making phone calls.. then yeah. Sure. I use the keyboard for long emails and message board posts. That's not the majority of my day realistically though.
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Fair enough. Different preference for different users. I text more than I do any other function on my phone. Honestly though? I like how they did it on the Moto Droid. On the side but up closer to the top.
It's on the side so that it will work in a car dock, which I'd love to see one of.
For me, the ***** is microUSB. That tiny tab in there is going to break, and then I'm boned. MiniUSB would have fit, and it's so much stronger!
My N900 had it on the top and it was impossible to use when plugged in.. I for one am glad its on the side.
sinistersai4d4d said:
I assume most people use their phone 90% of the time in portrait mode. But yes, in landscape it's fine. I spent the summer on an iPhone after using a rooted G1 for 18 months (cyanogen of course).
The only things I miss from jailbroken iPhone are 1) Bottom plug, 2) virtual keyboard (Swype/Stock/Swift still don't come close FOR ME), 3) Home Button/Track Pad press to wake up screen, 5) SBSettings and 4) WORDS WITH FRIENDS!!!!!
Otherwise it's like a breath of fresh air being back on Android. I'm confident that 4 of those 5 things will be fixed if root ever gets implemented.
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Check out Wordfeud. I just discovered it this past week but me and a few of my other Android friends have been having a blast with it. You can also play against random people.
usb port on the side isn't that bad unless your trying to type. then its a pain. still don't like micro usb always plug in the wrong side also feels kind of flimsy.
xencor said:
Check out Wordfeud. I just discovered it this past week but me and a few of my other Android friends have been having a blast with it. You can also play against random people.
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Yeah I'm using Wordfeud now for my WWF fix. It's like a poor mans version. Drab black color and the "V" is only worth 4 points lol.
Also, yeah, I'm not saying to put the plug at the top, but raise it to the top of the side or put it where the *gasp* iphone put their plug. Bottom center.
It's for easy Landscape DOCKING!
If you buy a docking device for your desk of for your car where do you think the USB port should be?
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It's for easy Landscape DOCKING!
If you buy a docking device for your desk of for your car where do you think the USB port should be?
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Yeah, because the majority of users use a desk/car dock instead of holding their phone.
I'd have greatly preferred it on the other side (the one with the camera button); this would allow it to be used on a dock (who uses the keyboard when it's docked?! flip the screen!), while at the same time allowing you to prop it up on a desk and have it charge while still being able to quickly pick it up to type a response to a text or tweet. As it is now, to charge on a desk it HAS to be either face up or face-down.. and I shudder to think about trying to use a dock and quickly reply to anything. But I can understand why they didn't... look under the screen with it lifted up half-open, the z-hinge takes up a lot of space.
Even having it on the bottom would have been an improvement. And seconded on the micro-USB port... all my other gear uses mini-USB. Now I have to go buy another micro-USB cable to charge at work versus home, or be hassled in carrying the cable back and forth.
Battery life seems to be a hell of a lot better than the G1 at least. Which is now my 'backup phone' at work, in case I forget the damned charging cable for the G2.
MCbrian said:
Not that this is a reason...but Blackberries have the charge-port on the side -- a lot of them do anyway.
When you're using a phone like the G2 (or my TP2) in landscape I think it's better on the side. That way it hangs straight down between my hands, rather than where my right hand is (as it is on my TP2). But...yeah, not good in portrait mode.
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speaking of blackberry...i really wish the g2 has the metal magnet charging ports like the blackberry. those metal contacts on the bottom of the blackberry have made charging the phone sooo much easier. i miss that feature... i know the n1 has that but the dock cost like $50 but hey if the g2 had that i would be all over it especially if ur tryin to charge ur fone wen ur drunk it is really hard.

A really disappointing phone

I was lucky enough to be able to 'upgrade' my Samsung Galaxy Note to an Xperia Z at no cost (company deal) and after three days of use I am really disappointed - if not frustrated - with the Sony. I was attracted to the combination of screen size and thinness of the design, but usability-wise, this phone is a let down for me. I probably take/make only a handful of calls per day and the phone is used mostly as a work support tool/mini tablet (email, rss feeds, news, server/network status reports from our monitoring tools). Here's my thoughts so far:
1) Performance - great & battery drain/hour seems to be less than the Note for similar tasks.
2) Connector covers - AARGH! - what a pain to have to keep flipping them open for headphones and charging. Fair enough - I see why they exist and if I specifically bought the phone for its water-resistant features then perhaps I'd appreciate them more, but as things stand I'm tempted to rip/cut them off! (but won't)
3) USB connector is on the top left side - that really makes for a badly-positioned, hanging-out lead when the phone's in a car dock or charging on the desk and you want to pick it up for a call. I'm really used to all my previous phones (HTC Touch Pro, HTC Touch Pro II, HTC Desire, Samsung G. Note) having the USB port at the bottom - which has also meant that the same dock could be used for different phones.
4) Phone power button is on the right side, in the middle - totally obscured when in a car dock so here' s the scenario: Phone is in satnav mode (Yay Waze!). Phone rings, call is answered and phone speaker turned on. Call ends, and phone has locked itself, so to get back to satnav, you have to remove the phone from the dock to press the power button - OH for a power/wake up button on the face of the phone! Maybe there's a util for this?
5) The screen is really hard to view outdoors, even in moderate sunlight (Yeah, I have tried with the 'adapt to lighting conditions' feature off). The Note is much better in this respect
6) Sound output is from the bottom, right edge of the phone...so hold the phone in your right hand and you muffle the audio when listening to music or watching a video.
7) Where's my white cotton gloves? This phone looks awful after 5 mins in your hand - marks everywhere on the glossy black finish. Can't wait for my soft protective back/cover to arrive and then only the face of the phone will look like it's been dipped in grease.
8) RSI - holding this phone for any length of time as a tablet (for reading news, emails etc.) makes my hand hurt - it's worse than the (bigger) Note - probably because the Sony is so thin that the pinch/holding grip is different.
SO: 11/10 for looks, but 5/10 for functionality.
I can't complain about the opportunity to have this phone, but I have just ordered a micro SIM adaptor so I can use the Note again as my main phone and the Xperia Z will go to someone else.
Another pointless thread..
This post is not only pointless,but these things are so minor and 90% persional taste.
And while on that subject,wtf is with hating on the damn flaps.Even if the phone was not waterproof,I like my phone smooth,not with 5 holes on each side that make rings on my fingers.I get its annoying to open and close them,but if you are not using headphones 30 times a day...I dont get the issue. Btw if you hate them so much,buy a dock and NFC headphones and you dont ever have to open flaps in your life
useless thread....nothing constructive out of this at all.
2) use docking station and bluetooth headset
4) use a different car dock
7) i don't have oily fingers, so no problem here
Don't think many will feel you're pain here guy.
This would have taken you about 5 min to check out beforehand.
Buying a waterproof phone to bash it's flaps is kind of silly if you ask me.
linker3000 said:
4) Phone power button is on the right side, in the middle - totally obscured when in a car dock so here' s the scenario: Phone is in satnav mode (Yay Waze!). Phone rings, call is answered and phone speaker turned on. Call ends, and phone has locked itself, so to get back to satnav, you have to remove the phone from the dock to press the power button - OH for a power/wake up button on the face of the phone! Maybe there's a util for this?
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Buy a new dock , personally I really like the positioning when handling the phone, I'm glad it is not on top as it would made one handed use not as easy as it is now
linker3000 said:
5) The screen is really hard to view outdoors, even in moderate sunlight (Yeah, I have tried with the 'adapt to lighting conditions' feature off). The Note is much better in this respect
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Strange I really liked the display in the sun, maybe a sharp vs JDI panel?
linker3000 said:
6) Sound output is from the bottom, right edge of the phone...so hold the phone in your right hand and you muffle the audio when listening to music or watching a video.
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This phone has a very special feature, you can rotate the phone , although for some (stupid) reason this doesn't seem to work in portrait
linker3000 said:
8) RSI - holding this phone for any length of time as a tablet (for reading news, emails etc.) makes my hand hurt - it's worse than the (bigger) Note - probably because the Sony is so thin that the pinch/holding grip is different.
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I had this at first, but not any longer, at first I held it like I did with my arc, but this phone requires different handling to be comfortable, depending on my sitting position it rests on my pink an slightly in my palm (the arc was mainly in the palm of my hand). Or it lays flat in my hand.
U should have no problem with power button and screen size if u came from galaxy note as they r similar.
But I am with you with outdoor sunlight
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Want to sell it?? My friend likes mine very much but don't have enough money!
The bad thing about the phone is the poor low light camera quality, think the rest of the phone is amazing..
6. Position is excellent. As the majority of people hold devices right handed, if held in the correct position the hand naturally amplifies the volume.
2. You're going to have to try hard to 'out-stupid' yourself on that one!
AW: A really disappointing phone
stefanve said:
*snip* it rests on my pink an slightly in my palm (the arc was mainly in the palm of my hand). Or it lays flat in my hand.
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Jup.
maka12 said:
*snip* poor low light camera quality
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Hmmm... 9pm the snowy one, 3am the in-car one. Quite dark on both occasions.
Berlin btw in case you wonder
Can't we just open a thread stating stop *****ing and opening pointless threads. Don't like the phone then **** off and get something else!!!!
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I too have come from a Note, and to be quite honest with you, I dont think I'll be going back to Samsung any time soon.
First thing you notice is the build quality. Its 100x times better on the Z and I'm not sure how such a popular manufacture can still get away with shoddy quality.
I think the screen is quite fantastic, I was a fan of AMOLED until I saw this 1080p beauty! Its just amazing. I cannot see any pixels no matter how hard I try! The UI is much better, much more lightweight and responsive.
It's just better than the Note IMO. The only thing letting it down is battery life at the moment.
To OP:
Bro,
If you like the phone, rave about it. If you don't like it, quietly sell it and don't set foot here. You'll be flamed! LOL
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
U should have no problem with power button and screen size if u came from galaxy note as they r similar.
But I am with you with outdoor sunlight
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Nope - the Note has a hard button below the display - but that particular annoyance has been fixed with an app called Auto Screen On and I can now wake up the display by waving near the proximity sensor.
Thanks to all for the constructive feedback and sorry to all those who think that personal observations on usage patterns and ergonomics are pointless.
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To OP:
Bro,
If you like the phone, rave about it. If you don't like it, quietly sell it and don't set foot here. You'll be flamed! LOL
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Nah - that's too easy!
If no-one posted honest, objective feedback how are phone designers and potential users going to know whether there's things that can be done to make the current or next product even better, or whether the phone is the best fit for their particular circumstances.
DeadlyDazza said:
6. Position is excellent. As the majority of people hold devices right handed, if held in the correct position the hand naturally amplifies the volume.
2. You're going to have to try hard to 'out-stupid' yourself on that one!
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Ah- the 'you're holding it wrong' defence!
I understand that a certain brand of ruggedised phone has connector covers with small screws securing them so you can remove them if you want, or if one should be accidentally damaged and need replacing - I am told the screwdriver is supplied in the box too.
khsbenny said:
I too have come from a Note, and to be quite honest with you, I dont think I'll be going back to Samsung any time soon.
First thing you notice is the build quality. Its 100x times better on the Z and I'm not sure how such a popular manufacture can still get away with shoddy quality.
I think the screen is quite fantastic, I was a fan of AMOLED until I saw this 1080p beauty! Its just amazing. I cannot see any pixels no matter how hard I try! The UI is much better, much more lightweight and responsive.
It's just better than the Note IMO. The only thing letting it down is battery life at the moment.
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Have to agree on build quality - it's a very 'smart' smartphone. It's just some of the functional design that doesn't work for me.

Ever wondered why the One's vibrate motor is comparatively weak, yet also loud?

It is so weak because it uses such a small vibrate motor. The counterweight's mass isn't enough to make for an adequate vibration, especially given the One's large size. Here it is next to the iPhone 4's vibrate motor:
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And next to the iPhone 5's motor:
For size reference, the OnePlus One vs. iPhone 4:
Source: Phone Arena Size Comparison Tool
If the OPO's motor counterweight is approximately 25% shorter in diameter than the iPhone 4's motor, then it could be as much as 40% lighter than the iPhone's (because π r² and stuff), assuming their lengths and mass densities are about the same .
The motor is mounted on a flex cable, then the flex is adhered to the chassis. It is not mounted directly on the chassis, unlike other phones. The vibration caused by the motor could possibly be dampened by the adhesive tape between the flex and the chassis, or cause it to come loose over time.
iPhone 4 - mounted directly on the chassis:
iPhone 4S - mounted on the chassis:
iPhone 5/S - mounted on the chassis:
LG Nexus 5 - mounted on the battery cover:
HTC One X - mounted on the chassis:
Galaxy S3, S4 and S5...you get the idea:
And as you can see, the motor is inside the right speaker's cavity, so the sound generated by the motor might be amplified.
Its vibration may also sound "rattly" in comparison with Samsung phones' vibration, because Samsung (as well as LG, Sony and Apple's iPhone 4S and 6/Plus) uses linear oscillation motors as opposed to the electric motor with counterweight type. The former have a better "vibration-to-noise" ratio than the latter. They run on AC as opposed to DC, so they can reach peak vibration almost instantly, requiring no spin-up and spin-down time. This is especially noticeable in the keyboard's haptic feedback, where the vibration only lasts a few fractions of a second at a time. The amplitude of a linear vibration can also be changed without affecting the frequency, so it is also much more precise.
Vibrate motors from left to right: Samsung Galaxy S3, iPhone 4S, Sony Xperia Z, iPhone 5 (very similar size to the iPhone 4's), HTC One X, iPhone 3GS
More information about electric motor vibration motors: http://www.precisionmicrodrives.com...rm-characteristics-for-vibration-applications
More information about linear oscillation (or linear resonance) motors: http://www.precisionmicrodrives.com...resonant-actuator-lra-haptic-vibration-motors
Yeah I didn't like the rattly sound that it made so I just disabled vibration completely on my 1+1
thanks very nice comparison + awesome insight into the inner oneplus vibrator
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Last time I used a Note 2, well Samsung vibrators are really vibrating, OPO's vibration is too weak, better disable it.
soralz said:
Last time I used a Note 2, well Samsung vibrators are really vibrating, OPO's vibration is too weak, better disable it.
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Ever since the Galaxy S2 I've only ever used Samsung droids (including the Note 2), so all of them had linear oscillation motors and worked very well. The OPO's is good enough for when you are already paying attention to the phone (typing, playing games etc.), but not good enough for silent notification.
You should hear the motor on the Nexus 6. Its god awful.
AfroCreame said:
You should hear the motor on the Nexus 6. Its god awful.
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It looks like it sounds awful. It has not one, but two counterweights! But it's mounted directly to its giant logic board, then the logic board to the frame via many screws. The logic board probably vibrates at some point against the frame.
The vibration strength should be pretty strong though, shouldn't it?
My question is, is it possible to fix? retro-fit?
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My question is, is it possible to fix? retro-fit?
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Probably not. If the motor was any bigger, then the counterweight would knock against the inside of the phone when it spins. Right now the motor only has just enough clearance for that to not happen.
Sounds like you're looking for things to complain about.
I'm happy with the vibration level on my One.
What's the big deal with it not shaking your house to bits when it vibrates?
I'm glad it doesn't wake me up at night when someone texts me, I'm not one to set levels based on time, my job requires me to be up at random times, and I couldn't be hassled to change settings multiple times per day.
Borgschulze said:
Sounds like you're looking for things to complain about.
I'm happy with the vibration level on my One.
What's the big deal with it not shaking your house to bits when it vibrates?
I'm glad it doesn't wake me up at night when someone texts me, I'm not one to set levels based on time, my job requires me to be up at random times, and I couldn't be hassled to change settings multiple times per day.
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This is more of an explanation than a complaint. Besides, I don't use the OnePlus One for phone calls anymore, so I'm not complaining.
But you may be able to help these people.
Possibly mine vibrates stronger than others.
Borgschulze said:
Possibly mine vibrates stronger than others.
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Lucky you
You really know your vibrators...
But seriously, this is sorta disappointing considering I only use my phone on vibrate. Good thing I have a smart watch now.
I think it's useless other than when it's sitting on a hard surface. I can NEVER feel it vibrate.
Badd_blood said:
You really know your vibrators...
But seriously, this is sorta disappointing considering I only use my phone on vibrate. Good thing I have a smart watch now.
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Might be a good opportunity for OnePlus to make a wearable!
shoman94 said:
I think it's useless other than when it's sitting on a hard surface. I can NEVER feel it vibrate.
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Same, I miss notifications and calls all the time...
Can't we just replace the vibrating motor with one from another phone like, say, the Note 3? Or do something so it is LESS loud and MORE strong?
I still much prefer rotary motor than linear, I like that smooth feel and spin up time, linear module annoy me to no end.
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I still much prefer rotary motor than linear, I like that smooth feel and spin up time, linear module annoy me to no end.
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Why is that? The rotary motor just sucks - look at the OPO, you can hear it but not feel it. The linear is much better - you FEEL the vibration and almost don't hear it.
Typing on the OPO with haptic feedback enabled feels like the phone's broken or something...
Great phone

First Impression (very unprofessional review)

Gonna drop some thoughts, pics, about the GS6...This will be very unorganized since I will just be updating the post as I discover things! [emoji4] I have a white and black 64gb.
Firstly I am coming from a galaxy S5 and have had every galaxy since the very first one. All the pics will be taken with my S5 so blame it for the quality, he he. That said...
I never understood why there was such a big push/issue over metals and all this premium build crap, then I opened the box and held the S6. The feeling... It is like looking your best in casual clothes or a suit vs your gym clothes or active wear.
The backs: The white is a nice pearl and amazing at preventing fingerprints and light reflection, I purposely tried to smudge it but couldn't.
The black is a fingerprint magnet and reflects light like a mirror (the front is not bad at all since it's mostly screen) I tried avoiding but they will show.
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Some little things: The charger is similar to the standard S5 etc. charger but, has a little lighting sign on it to signify fast charging. The usb cords though are about 12 inches shorter than that of the S5, seems to be about 4 feet long. The usb is thinner too, mainly cause the S5 one I'm used to had the 3.0 built in. The shorter usb sucks for those times you want to use it while charging.
The back is way more slippery, than the S5, will take some getting used too! I do not use cases.
Update: I was so against cases, but this phone is very, very slippery, esp. if your using it a bit and the back warms up, makes you fingers sweat/moist. I took it to the zoo the other day, clear skies, mild breeze, about 65 degrees out, so not humid at all. While taking pics I was very worried I would drop it if handling it with one hand (again slippery and thin). As soon as I got home ordered a Ringke clear case (which is amazing I might add), and now the user experience feels much better because I don't have that fear now of it slipping out my hand. My last 7-8 phones I was 100% against and never used a case, hope that is saying something about the slippery-ness of this phone.
First power on, battery dropped 5% just going through the setup screens. I know this is probably nothing.
Out of box storage 54.31gb, nothing setup or installed.
For those wondering the nano SIM comes in the box, I haven't inserted it yet.
Tried to show how much tilt the camera created, may be hard to see but the camera lens is way off the surface (a good thing to me!)
The camera area and the heart rate monitor has a film of plastic over them. The camera one has the lens cut out as usual, but the one over the heart rate monitor I would remove so it doesn't affect the sensor.
Fingerprint: This thing so much better than the swipe method. It allows for 4 fingers to be set up, I did each thumb twice. I set it up right away and only on one instance did it not work, and that was after letting someone try their finger first to show how it worked. Even with a damp hand after washing it worked, which always caused my swipe on the S5 to fail.
Home Screen: The wallpaper does this little floating thing when you tilt the phone any direction. Its very subtle but noticeable.
Update: The tmobile update put it to lollipop 5.02
Samsung: No more micro Sd slot.
Me: No problem! Usb OTG cable $2.99, usb micro sd reader $4.99, in goes my 64 micro sd card[emoji106] This is very small and pocketable for say a long trip or vacation were you may want extra storage space. Best part is now swapping cards is even faster, carry 2 or 3 micros in you pocket. #Microcenter
I now feel that the lack of sd card is a big non-issue in fact I feel happy about it because we gained from this loss...with the sd under the cover we would/should have to power off, remove cover, swap card, power on, wait for boot. Now, plug in OTG 5 secs later file explore automatically opens (sort of like Windows pc) full access, and it's mass storage not slow MTP. Pull notification down, unmount/eject pull cable out 5 sec. So it is much faster and plug-n-play! Bam! now im rocking ~114GB for less than 10 bucks of adapters.
S Voice: usually one of the first things I disable, but this new one is sweet. You can set it to always listening and it actually works great. You choose your own phrase, mine is "yo galaxy" then tell it what you want to do...Do this like your telling someone to do something without pausing in your natural speaking speed. i.e. you don't have to wait like Google now for the beep that its ready, which makes Svoice nicer. So for example with the screen of and fingerprint protected I say---"Yo galaxy set an alarm for 30 minutes from now" and she sets it and tells you the time it will go off. The screen doesn't turn on during this, just a little 3-4 mm speech bar bout the size of the edge notifications. Summary: Svoice may see more use from Google now from me!
Lucky T-Mo customers!
Looking forward to the rest of your review.
I'm still trying to decide between black and white. I love the slight bit of blue the black one gives off, but damn those fingerprints haha.
asdfvtn said:
Lucky T-Mo customers!
Looking forward to the rest of your review.
I'm still trying to decide between black and white. I love the slight bit of blue the black one gives off, but damn those fingerprints haha.
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If you like white you will LOVE this pearl white...I prefer black, makes the screen kind of disappear. The black is not jet black, and the blue tint is only really noticeable/visible with direct light at an angle.
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I went with the white for the reason due to the finger prints and that it was truely black. I get black so the screen blends in with the color, but since its blueish it doesnt quite do what I want. The white has a pearl to it.
Hope to be getting my Tmobile one soon
To the author: when you have the chance, please check how are the heads up notifications I'm interested mainly in the messaging and phone ones - can you answer a call/ replay to a message without having to quit your current application (like in Stock Lollipop) or is it like before?
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To the author: when you have the chance, please check how are the heads up notifications I'm interested mainly in the messaging and phone ones - can you answer a call/ replay to a message without having to quit your current application (like in Stock Lollipop) or is it like before?
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Will do, but I never used heads up previously, so will tell you what I find.
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To the author: when you have the chance, please check how are the heads up notifications I'm interested mainly in the messaging and phone ones - can you answer a call/ replay to a message without having to quit your current application (like in Stock Lollipop) or is it like before?
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My guess is that since both the S5 and Note 4 had those features in KitKat, they should be alive and well in the S6...
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My guess is that since both the S5 and Note 4 had those features in KitKat, they should be alive and well in the S6...
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Did S5 and Note 4 had those features? Oh... well then it is almost guaranteed they will be present in the S6 as well. I had no idea that they were available in older versions of Android as well.
Neat feature nevertheless
Could you run this app and post a screenshot? Manual Camera Compatibility from the play store
(sorry I can't post the link directly since this is my first post)
Thank you
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Did S5 and Note 4 had those features? Oh... well then it is almost guaranteed they will be present in the S6 as well. I had no idea that they were available in older versions of Android as well.
Neat feature nevertheless
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As mentioned it is there...lollipop 5.1 has an update to this feature where you can dismiss the heads up but it still shows up in the notification pulldown fit later interaction.
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In the display parameters, can you deactivate the light of the hardware keys ?
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In the display parameters, can you deactivate the light of the hardware keys ?
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No you cannot, in fact several things are missing from that menu and other menus...unless there in other places a lot of useful stuff has been removed, i.e. I cannot find some of the air gestures like hover, preview, etc... I think Samsung didn't understood what people meant by the bloat I.e. the Samsung apps and auto on features, not take them away completely.
First pic is S6 next two are of S5 display menu
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Yep, no more air gestures. Several features such as this one are being excluded in the S6.
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Yep, no more air gestures. Several features such as this one are being excluded in the S6.
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Ya, which is a shame I actually used some of them. They could have left them, but just off by default. Mainly air preview was good for fast forwarding/rewinding a video or song to the spot you wanted.
This is all we get now, hope the others can be downloaded from the galaxy app store like some of the extra camera modes were!
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This probably won't be a very good test since I'm in Canada and you're in the Ohio, but I was wondering if you could test out the GPS performance on the S6? My G2 locks take quite some time to find it (even after changing servers), and loses it every now and then.
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Ya, which is a shame I actually used some of them. They could have left them, but just off by default. Mainly air preview was good for fast forwarding/rewinding a video or song to the spot you wanted.
This is all we get now, hope the others can be downloaded from the galaxy app store like some of the extra camera modes were! View attachment 3237186
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Personally for me it is no biggie the lack of air features. Even the ones still present in the phone will be turned off in my case
Two more questions:
1) Have you had the chance to hear the phone's audio quality from headphones? I read a lot of controversial information on the Internet - some say it is amazing, some say it is rather moderate. And if it is moderate it is a deal breaker for me - audio quality is an important aspect.
2) How are the themes in the Theme store? So far the ones I've seen (3 of them) are butt ugly. Is there an option to create your own theme (or that was a feature coming later this month)?
Did you see if it supports h.265 encode / decode like qualcomm 810?
Which color is the better looking of the two?
Post more thoughts! I have an S3 so I could really use an upgrade but the lack of waterproofing and SD card really bummed me out. That and it being $700 having a mini stroke over here trying to convince myself to pull the trigger.
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Does the power and volume buttons feel sturdy and flushed like on the iphone?

How are you guys adapting to the finger print NOT being a home button?

I'm hoping someone creates an app/script that will turn the finger print scanner into a home button. This is one of the big reasons I was holding back.
For those that went from a phone with a home button/finger print scanner (me -> Note 4), is it a big adjustment?
This is my first phone with a fingerprint scanner. I love it, but even never having had one before, I definitely keep double-tapping it expecting it to work as a home button. I'm sure I'll eventually adapt to it, but it seems like a no-brainer that it should have home button functionality.
That, in addition to the ridiculous amount of wasted space on the chin that is just screaming for capacitive buttons, were silly design decisions...
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my first impression was MAN they could have kept it the same size of my T2 but its much longer than i wanted. that said i have had fingerprint reader before and never used it and didnt intially set it up. yesterday i set up left and right index and both thumbs and LOVE IT. i like how it opens right up when i want it to and since i was already use to the on screen home button the finger open was a nice compliment
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I'm hoping someone creates an app/script that will turn the finger print scanner into a home button. This is one of the big reasons I was holding back.
For those that went from a phone with a home button/finger print scanner (me -> Note 4), is it a big adjustment?
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You actually used the fingerprint scanner on the Note 4? lol
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You actually used the fingerprint scanner on the Note 4? lol
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Yes, yes I did. Anything to add or are you here to troll?
I agree, @Metfanant. The waste of space at the bottom seems pointless. I personally don't care to lock my device but corporate security policy says we have to lock it somehow.
I've found myself tapping left of the scanner just because the capacitive buttons should in all aspects be there, but aren't. Otherwise, I actually seem to hit the home button easily. It's the dead real estate at the bottom that's bugging me more than anything.
Coming from a Nexus 6 though, just having a fingerprint reader is awesome to me.
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I've found myself tapping left of the scanner just because the capacitive buttons should in all aspects be there, but aren't. Otherwise, I actually seem to hit the home button easily. It's the dead real estate at the bottom that's bugging me more than anything.
Coming from a Nexus 6 though, just having a fingerprint reader is awesome to me.
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100% agree
Metfanant said:
That, in addition to the ridiculous amount of wasted space on the chin that is just screaming for capacitive buttons, were silly design decisions...
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I have always hated capacitive buttons - that's one reason I moved away from HTC phones. I love that the fingerprint sensor isn't a home button. It's perfect the way it is.
RyanTX said:
I have always hated capacitive buttons - that's one reason I moved away from HTC phones. I love that the fingerprint sensor isn't a home button. It's perfect the way it is.
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I couldn't disagree more...
1. Why do I want screen real estate taken up by navigation buttons?
2. Considering the design of the phone with all that wasted space, it just screams for the buttons on the chin of the phone
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Metfanant said:
I couldn't disagree more...
1. Why do I want screen real estate taken up by navigation buttons?
2. Considering the design of the phone with all that wasted space, it just screams for the buttons on the chin of the phone
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The supposed Z Play photos make the chin look much smaller - the Moto logo is under the speaker instead of at the bottom.
When I had an M7 the capacitive buttons were EXTREMELY glitchy. Glitchy to the point where I had to change phones. I will never use another phone with capacitive buttons.
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The supposed Z Play photos make the chin look much smaller - the Moto logo is under the speaker instead of at the bottom.
When I had an M7 the capacitive buttons were EXTREMELY glitchy. Glitchy to the point where I had to change phones. I will never use another phone with capacitive buttons.
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Ahhhh...the capacitive buttons on my Droid Turbo always worked fine
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I for one am happy for that extra space. It puts the keyboard in a better location allowing me to type. If it was closer to the bottom it would be much harder to type. Larger phones are good for larger hands except when you have to cramp your hands up because of the buttons being at the bottom edge. That space was a huge selling point for me
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I for one am happy for that extra space. It puts the keyboard in a better location allowing me to type. If it was closer to the bottom it would be much harder to type. Larger phones are good for larger hands except when you have to cramp your hands up because of the buttons being at the bottom edge. That space was a huge selling point for me
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I have no problem with the chin at the bottom, my issue is that they should have put the nav buttons down there and gotten rid of the on screen navigation buttons
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Never had a fingerprint reader.. Never wanted a click home button. Bought this phone and have not been disappointed. Just hoping Lenovo won't forget updates.
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Metfanant said:
I have no problem with the chin at the bottom, my issue is that they should have put the nav buttons down there and gotten rid of the on screen navigation buttons
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I actually prefer it this way. It makes one handed operation much more comfortable. Other larger phones...or small one for that matter that have the keyboard too close to the bottom have me placing my pinky under the phone to be able to hold it. I feel this is a more ergonomic design.
Of course everyone is going to be different which is what creates this situation, not everyone has the same size hands, or some way to hold their device. Besides when it counts such as videos and games the buttons either disappear or become an overlay so its somewhat of a non issue.
If the issue for you is typing many companies do make pocket size bluetooth keyboards and voice recognition has came a long way in the last ten years.
Im glad the sensor isnt a home button, but this is my first phone with one so maybe it is that I dont have a reference. I like being able to lock or unlock without navigating away from what I have open. I always set autolock to the highest option which on this phone is 30 minutes. One thing I do miss is the never option. I prefer manual lock...the hell with battery life if my phone is going to turn off when I dont want it to.
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I actually prefer it this way. It makes one handed operation much more comfortable. Other larger phones...or small one for that matter that have the keyboard too close to the bottom have me placing my pinky under the phone to be able to hold it. I feel this is a more ergonomic design.
Of course everyone is going to be different which is what creates this situation, not everyone has the same size hands, or some way to hold their device. Besides when it counts such as videos and games the buttons either disappear or become an overlay so its somewhat of a non issue.
If the issue for you is typing many companies do make pocket size bluetooth keyboards and voice recognition has came a long way in the last ten years.
Im glad the sensor isnt a home button, but this is my first phone with one so maybe it is that I dont have a reference. I like being able to lock or unlock without navigating away from what I have open. I always set autolock to the highest option which on this phone is 30 minutes. One thing I do miss is the never option. I prefer manual lock...the hell with battery life if my phone is going to turn off when I dont want it to.
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I think you're not understanding what I'm saying...the keyboard would remain in the exact same position...what I think they should have done is simply put the back/recent buttons down on the chin by the fingerprint scanner as capacitive buttons
The Droid Turbo was a good example...notice how the phone still has a significant "chin" under the screen...which would keep the keyboard where you like it, but it doesn't have all the wasted space on the sides like the Z...
It also frees up screen space , so apps get to use more of the screens full resolution
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While i agree that it might have been better for them to put the nav buttons on the chin, i wouldnt want the fp reader to be the home button. I like being able to turn the device off and on from the reader as it is now. and i find it hard to believe that removing the on screen nav bar would significantly benefit the user experience. its likely a non-issue to everyone outside this forum (obvious generalization). i get that it looks like it makes more sense, but there were probably many engineering factors that lead them to this design path. and i dont see a TON of advantages of freeing up .45 inches on a 5.5" screen, other than that some would prefer it this way. If it bothers you so much go buy a samsung (yuck)
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While i agree that it might have been better for them to put the nav buttons on the chin, i wouldnt want the fp reader to be the home button. I like being able to turn the device off and on from the reader as it is now. and i find it hard to believe that removing the on screen nav bar would significantly benefit the user experience. its likely a non-issue to everyone outside this forum (obvious generalization). i get that it looks like it makes more sense, but there were probably many engineering factors that lead them to this design path. and i dont see a TON of advantages of freeing up .45 inches on a 5.5" screen, other than that some would prefer it this way. If it bothers you so much go buy a samsung (yuck)
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I'm pretty sure the huge chin and no buttons on the chin was to keep it thin. At least that's what I tell myself.
Like you point out, its all about preference. Having .45" of a a 5.5" screen effectively means I have 5" of screen when nav bar is showing. Might as well have gone out and bought a 5" screen phone (huge exaggeration as some apps have on screen nav and some don't).
To each their own. I don't think the Z Force is the best phone ever but I'll continue using it.
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I think you're not understanding what I'm saying...the keyboard would remain in the exact same position...what I think they should have done is simply put the back/recent buttons down on the chin by the fingerprint scanner as capacitive buttons
The Droid Turbo was a good example...notice how the phone still has a significant "chin" under the screen...which would keep the keyboard where you like it, but it doesn't have all the wasted space on the sides like the Z...
It also frees up screen space , so apps get to use more of the screens full resolution
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You do know that Google has been trying to get manufacturers to stop using capacitive buttons for like 3 years now right?

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