[Q] Multitouch and the NTG - Nook Touch General

I attempted to use the multitouch kernel with clockwork mod after rooting my glowlight and for some reason it seems to have hosed the glowlight controls completely. I was hoping that the n2t recovery by ros87 would help but the server hosting the image is not working. Does anyone have a mirror of the image?
EDIT: In my panic I didn't check the entire thread and found a dropbox mirror of the file further on in the thread. Let this serve as a warning to first stay calm and also not to attempt multitouch on the NTG. Sorry if I wasted your time.

Schneicw said:
I attempted to use the multitouch kernel vi clockwork mod after rooting my glowlight and for some reason it seems to have hosed the glowlight controls completely. I was hoping that the n2t recovery by ros87 would help but the server hosting the image is not working. Does anyone have a mirror of the image?
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Here you go.
Just wait for a NTG modded kernel, dont use the device specific resources for the NST.

Thanks for the quick response and the advice which I will be sure to remember. Any idea how long it's going to take to port multitouch to the NTG

Schneicw said:
Thanks for the quick response and the advice which I will be sure to remember. Any idea how long it's going to take to port multitouch to the NTG
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It'll take about the amount of time for whoever brought multitouch to the Nook Simple Touch to download the source for NTG and then make the appropriate changes. That's if they even care.

Hi,
the kernel in the attachment should work for the NTG. I patched it a month ago and totally forgot to upload it .
Works also on the normal NST.
The zip file includes only the kernel, its not flashable by cwm, you have to push it manually to your boot partition and add the permissions in the xml-file.
Git-Repository: https://github.com/mali1/NST-kernel_115

Thank you. Is it possible to replace the uimage in the original CWM zip with this one and do the same thing as for the nst or should I follow the directions in the original thread which if I understand right involves burning noogie to an sdcard then then booting the nook up, connecting it to a computer, finding uimage and replacing it.

Schneicw said:
Thank you. Is it possible to replace the uimage in the original CWM zip with this one and do the same thing as for the nst
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Yes, that should work.

Hello everybody!
I haму some questions about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24180134
Can I use this method if I had already NST [email protected] with root? I want get multitouch, NoRefresh and usb-host.
All what I should to do is just replace uImage through Noogie?

This particular thread is regarding Multitouch on the Nook Touch Glow, not the Nook Simple Touch.

mali100 said:
Hi,
the kernel in the attachment should work for the NTG. I patched it a month ago and totally forgot to upload it .
Works also on the normal NST.
The zip file includes only the kernel, its not flashable by cwm, you have to push it manually to your boot partition and add the permissions in the xml-file.
Git-Repository: https://github.com/mali1/NST-kernel_115
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I've installed this kernel on my NTG and it works great. Thanks!

>>you have to push it manually to your boot partition and add the permissions in the xml-file
Using Root Explorer, where do I have to copy the (extracted kernel) file to (exact path/folder)?
Add permissions: Can I do that in Root Explorer rather than opening the xml file (filename?)? I do not have an editor for xml files....(which one would you recommend if I cannot change the permissions directly using Root Explorer)?
Thanks!

nrseife said:
>>you have to push it manually to your boot partition and add the permissions in the xml-file
Using Root Explorer, where do I have to copy the (extracted kernel) file to (exact path/folder)?
Add permissions: Can I do that in Root Explorer rather than opening the xml file (filename?)? I do not have an editor for xml files....(which one would you recommend if I cannot change the permissions directly using Root Explorer)?
Thanks!
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Follow the instructions in the original multitouch thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563645

Glowlight not working
Hello,
I have a problem with my Nook Simple Touch Glowlight that I hoped you could help me with.
I rooted it and it was working fine. Then, I tried to add the multitouch mod, but I think it was for the NST, and now the glowlight doesn't work at all. I did not have a backup, unfortunately. I tried doing a factory reset and rerooting, but when it gets to the "try the glowlight" part of the setup. I can't go any further because the light doesn't work. How do I fix this problem?
Thanks,
Joe

Glow + multitouch + Norefresh?
After rooting my Glow I downloaded and installed the .zip I found in another thread to enable multi touch and an APK that was to enable NoRefresh. The norefresh didnt work at all and the multi touch worked but killed the glowlight. Now I understand what happened, but basically i ended up with the kernal for the NST that enabled Multitouch.
After downloading and ADB pushing the the kernal that has both Glow and MultiTouch I am satisfied but not completely happy. I would really want the addition of norefresh but I have not been able to find a kernal that has all three.
USB host would not be a bad thing to have also, as long as it doesn't hose the battery life. It isn't a required component for my needs.

I've been looking around to see who has been working on this.
As mentioned elsewhere, EpdController has been changed in 1.2 which will break anything designed to play with Epd modes.
I've no experience or real interest in "NoRefresh" since for what I want
it's better to integrate Epd control at the application level, which I do.

Oh, I should have mentioned. I am at 1.1.5. I used Glownooter because I wanted the Market access, utilizing the Search Market tool. As far as I could tell, the rooting methods that work on 1.2 don't include Market capability.
If I could update to 1.2 and keep market that would be cool. It might be that any dev work has been scrapped for 1.1.5 as that is an old version.

here is multitouch for nook glowlight, it is in zip format for installing with CWM, I made it changing the uimage file for the rigth one in the NST CWM zip file from the first post
I have tried it in my nook glow with firmware 1.2, spanish language, and previously rooted with glownooter, I had installed too the norefresh toggle previously, it works like a charm with opera browser, and of course light is working
I installed it after previously have done with the no glow version and having lost my light, so it works also as an amendment to this failure
View attachment multitouchNSTG.zip

elsita could you please tell if this kernel is compatibile with fw 1.21 on NSTG to enable multitouch and fast refresh on this device? thanks!

soolcio said:
elsita could you please tell if this kernel is compatibile with fw 1.21 on NSTG to enable multitouch and fast refresh on this device? thanks!
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I can't tell for sure but I guess so, no refresh though is an app AFAIK
Enviado desde mi ZP800 usando Tapatalk 2

soolcio, will you share your attempt's results here, please, if any - a lot of people now have NSTG FW 1.2.1 and wanna have multitouch without loosing GlowLight feature working as usual

Related

TouchNooter 1.6.24 for 1.1

which uRamdisk to Replace into touchnooter-1.6.24 to make it work on 1.1 is not clear (there are 2 of them).
The answer is ONLY /nooter/boot/uRamdisk (don't touch the one in the root)
with this configuration (and the framework.jar) i got it to work on the first boot, no need to make the 3 boots sequence.
concluding (starting from an 1.1 virgin system):
download touchnooter-1-6-24.zip
extract touchnooter-1-6-24.img
download one of those uRamdisk
download framework.jar
replace ONLY /nooter/boot/uRamdisk in touchnooter-1-6-24.img
replace framework.jar in touchnooter-1-6-24.img
write touchnooter-1-6-24.img on the SD
just 1 boot as usual to the android welcome page,
then remove the SD,
reboot,
double skip as usual
NookColorTools - disable and re-enable non market apps (uncheck and check it again),
Youtube (error 401),
Gmail
and finally...
Market (install at least 1 application with this version, search doesn't work)
now (after you have installed 1 app) eventually replace Vending.apk with this to enable search
i also putted this inside my touchnooter, the 2 .jar into the framework directory and the apk into the app but this shouldn't be necessary...
this is how it worked for me, enjoy
Since i don't have enough posts for development forum, i will post this here, may be someone can move it to the right place, i'm not used to spam, but this 10 posts rule seems to encourage new users to spam 10 posts around...
move it here if you can
I think what you are addressing is exactly apeine's problem:
changed both uramdisk ... Booted with SD in and it either locks up or goes to regular nook (on 12 tries, 10 lock ups and 2 going to regular nook)
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Incidentally, how long did it take to boot and work on the first try? With 1.0.1 firmware I rooted three nooks and left it for over 30 minutes on the first one without success. Then on the other two I was impatient and gave it two boots. So I never let 1.1.0 go on that long before rebooting since I assumed it was going nowhere.
Kralik said:
I think what you are addressing is exactly apeine's problem:
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yes, that's why i wrote this, i cannot reply in the development section because i have too few posts on the forum
Kralik said:
Incidentally, how long did it take to boot and work on the first try? With 1.0.1 firmware I rooted three nooks and left it for over 30 minutes on the first one without success. Then on the other two I was impatient and gave it two boots. So I never let 1.1.0 go on that long before rebooting since I assumed it was going nowhere.
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In my case it took slightly longer than a normal boot, no freeze at all, just about 1-2 minute on "Rooted Forever", then some time, may be 1-2 minutes on the nook dots screen with the dots moving (they never froze) and then the android guy page, no more than 4-5 minutes globally.
Anyway when i used touchnooter on 1.0.1 the first time, i had to reboot 2 times as you reported, same problem, more or less, may be the freezing at boot is something which happens, but not regularly
thank you for the description!
so if i understood correctly, there's no drawback with this method, everything works as it was before upgrade to 1.1.0, including the Market?
what about the installed apps, especially the non-free ones? (I've purchased OrientationControl)
can I simply download it from Market again, or should I backup the APK file and copy it back after upgrade/root?
glezmen said:
thank you for the description!
so if i understood correctly, there's no drawback with this method, everything works as it was before upgrade to 1.1.0, including the Market?
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Yes, my nook behave exactly as with 1.0.1
glezmen said:
what about the installed apps, especially the non-free ones? (I've purchased OrientationControl)
can I simply download it from Market again, or should I backup the APK file and copy it back after upgrade/root?
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No idea, never bought an app, just free ones, but to keep an .apk backup is always a safe choice
about orientation... i remember Orientation Switch and this (just in case someone wanted rotation for free)
glezmen said:
what about the installed apps, especially the non-free ones? (I've purchased OrientationControl)
can I simply download it from Market again, or should I backup the APK file and copy it back after upgrade/root?
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You can re-install purchased apps from Market whenever you want.
Celebom said:
about orientation... i remember Orientation Switch and this (just in case someone wanted rotation for free)
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thanks for the hint, I will have a look on it (especially if i can't download the app again for free )
btw 1 EUR was not a big pain (I tried ADW launcher and rotation before, but it was not really convenient)
As long as you have market working with your prior GMail account, you should have no problem redownloading both your free and paid apps.
Thanks. Worked like a charm.
I first installed Astro File Manager, which is the second one in the list under the "Productivity" -> "Top Free". This allows me to install Vending.apk (Market where the search function works), and then follow it with Titanium Backup.
Using Titanium Backup re-installed all the apps from my previous backup, plus installed the XorZone's NookTouchTools for 1.1 (jars are different from 1.0.1).
I'm not sure what the significant difference is between the firmwares, but I understanding that the screen refresh is a bit quicker, and that the battery report is more accurate (previously batt reading would fluctuate when first turned on).
As for the firmware upgrade.... my STR just did not want to download the upgrade, even though I set the screensaver to 1 hour. There could be several reason why this didn't work, such that I don't live in US, or the process of rooting had modified something (even thought I factory reset it).
In the end I just connected it using USB, and loaded it into the root directory of the my STR (a simply file copy in Windows XP). Then the upgrade started a minute after the copy.
Thanks for your guide! I've just finished rooting my 1.1 Nook Simple Touch firmware
Remember everybody :
ONLY REPLACE URAMDISK IN NOOTER/BOOT/ (OF TOUCHNOOTER .IMG FILE)
uRamdisk mirror?
Hello, guess I shouldn't have started without all the downloads but I assumed they would be somewhere? any alternative downloads for uRamdisk_rooted because all the links are broken.
Thanks
I want to root my nook simple touch - what works TODAY?
Hi all.
I find this thread interesting and helpful. I have noted that a lot of the information here, on nook developers, or in two articles I read (one in lifehacker.com and the other in Que Publishing) all contain help that includes links to files that are either not there or I can't find.
Can someone point me to a current simple solution that will allow me to root my nook and toggle between the original home screen and the better Android one?
Thanks in advance!
Halfhoff said:
Hi all.
I find this thread interesting and helpful. I have noted that a lot of the information here, on nook developers, or in two articles I read (one in lifehacker.com and the other in Que Publishing) all contain help that includes links to files that are either not there or I can't find.
Can someone point me to a current simple solution that will allow me to root my nook and toggle between the original home screen and the better Android one?
Thanks in advance!
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ButtonSaviour should have been installed with the Root, so just look for a transparent(translucent?) arrow button thing on the right screen, near the middle. It might be hard to hit it. The Home button on that will be like hitting the Home button on a normal Android device, and when you press the Quick Nav button, the home on that will lead to the B&N home unless you used Xor's mods to change what it leads to.
broken link..........
+1
All the links that I find on the internet for the uRamdisk_rooted file appear broken also...
Markey1979 said:
All the links that I find on the internet for the uRamdisk_rooted file appear broken also...
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uRamdisk, rooted, adb wireless, fixed init, 1.1 and 1.1.2
http://code.google.com/p/nst-recovery/downloads/detail?name=uRamdisk_wireless_adb_init_1.1_1.1.2.zip
uRamdisk, rooted, adb usb, fixed init, 1.1 and 1.1.2
http://code.google.com/p/nst-recovery/downloads/detail?name=uRamdisk_usb_adb_init_1.1_1.1.2.zip

[Q] USB Host for non-techs

I just started a wiki here
USB Host mode
I am hoping that you who actually know how to do it would help develop a set of instructions that are simple enough for a literate, adventurous non-tech (like me) to follow.
UPDATE: The wiki now has a complete list of installation instructions. You'll have to hunt through verygreen's thread below for operating instructions till they organized on the wiki.
The wiki and this thread (where noobs like me can post) are based on verygreen's
[WIP] USB Host support (working)
I asked verygreen and ros87 to do the USB Host mode for the Nook Simple Touch. Verygreen announced success within 48 hours. The hack has gotten whipped into shape there with the amazing help of ros87, Renate NST, mali100, and other superb xda people.
The project started at mobileread.com:
Project: E-Paper Tablet (touch-typable!)
Thanks to fellow mobilereaders for support, especially Kumabjorn, poliorcetes, and nealsharmon for donating money for devices.
The wiki is super rough. It assumes a new device in the box and a non-tech user. I started the instructions to show how simple they need to be. I will continue helping with that because it does seem difficult for techs to believe just how lost we can be with this stuff. My goal is to bridge the gap between techs and literate users so that non-programmers who want to type on the NST can. If you are an expert writer of users manuals, maybe you would help, too.
Honestly, I don't know the first thing to do now that my NST is on and registered. For example, I don't even know if I need to:
root the NST first
install adb (which I also don't know about)
or what. I have studied the thread, so I will be familiar with the terms. But I'm completely clueless about actually doing the hack. I managed to unbox my refurbished NST, update its software to 1.1.2 and install a microSD card. The issue is, what exactly should be done now? Please leave your answers in the wiki! Thank you!
I would say the best way to start is from eded333's Minimal Touch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346748 . That gives you a nice system with market and a launcher to install and start your texteditor or writing apps.
If I find some time i will create a small update-package that installs all the necessary things for the usb-host mode.
Cool. Will the 1.1.2 NST software update screw any of this up? I have it installed now because it fixed wifi connection issues that affected me.
andrewed said:
Cool. Will the 1.1.2 NST software update screw any of this up? I have it installed now because it fixed wifi connection issues that affected me.
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1.1.2 is fine. You can still use eded333's MinimalTouch to root it and get a launcher.
Awesome. Will dive in, then!
As promised I created a small update package, to install all the necessary files and tools.
It is installable via Clockwork Recovery in the same way as eded333's MinimalTouch, which should be installed first, to get root, a launcher and a working Market.
Requirements:
Software version 1.1 or 1.1.2 (1.1.2 is recommended, as it fixes WLAN issues)
root, a launcher and working market (I recommend using eded333's MinimalTouch)
What it does:
changes the kernel to NST-kernel v0.1 with USB-Host and multitouch support
changes the uRamdisk to a uRamdisk with fixed init (needed for USB Input devices) and adb-usb
installs the busybox and sqlite binaries
adds the permission node for multitouch to /etc/permissions/required_hardware.xml
installs the app UsbMode-1.2 and the NullKbd-1.1 by Renate NST
adds the permission to enable the NullKbd
changes the qwerty.kl and qwerty.kcm.bin to the remapped one by Renate NST
installs the NookColorTools, so you can switch to the NullKbd
DISCLAMER and WARNING:
I'm not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, lost data, fried USB-Devices. Make a backup before you try anything described here!
USB-Host support is still WIP (work in progress), the battery drain is noticeable higher.
this is the first release and only tested by myself, so don't expect it to be bulletproof.
Credits go to:
verygreen, ros87 and everybody who helped with the USB-Host mode,
Renate NST, for all the effort making USB-Host support userfriendly (USB-Mode app, NullKbd, key remapping, testing),
wheilitjohnny and arkusuma for the Multitouch support,
eded333, for his great MinimalTouch,
Download:
usb-host-mt-pack_0.1.zip
Thanks, mali100.
I'd just like to point out that you can switch to the NullKbd just by hitting the Ctrl key and selecting it from the popup IME picker.
Renate NST said:
I'd just like to point out that you can switch to the NullKbd just by hitting the Ctrl key and selecting it from the popup IME picker.
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Nice easter-egg didn't noticed this before. Thanks
Ok, I will have to get a card reader. In the meantime, I'm getting a grip on the instructions by reading through the fine print. It led me to the noogie/backup process.
It says I need a class 6 microSD card. but I got a class 2 as per verygreen's instructions for the hack itself. Do I definitely also need a class 6 card just for the backup, or can I use my class 2 card?
Now that the hack is finally in reach, I want to do it right.
andrewed said:
Ok, I will have to get a card reader. In the meantime, I'm getting a grip on the instructions by reading through the fine print. It led me to the noogie/backup process.
It says I need a class 6 microSD card. but I got a class 2 as per verygreen's instructions for the hack itself. Do I definitely also need a class 6 card just for the backup, or can I use my class 2 card?
Now that the hack is finally in reach, I want to do it right.
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I'm using a 4G class 2 micro SD card for NOOGIE and it's fine.
where to?
Hi where to put content of META-INF? (dont wanna root again...)
mrWax said:
Hi where to put content of META-INF?
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The META-INF folder contains the insallation script and the interpreter for the script, they are used by CWM to install the package and not copied to the nook.
(dont wanna root again...)
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If you mean that your device isn't rooted, and you don't want to, then I have to tell you that root is needed to switch between usb-host mode and peripheral-mode, so root is mandatory.
If you mean your device is already rooted and you don't want to redo it, then don't worry, this package doesn't contain files that root the nook.
I had already rooted my nook another way...now what?
Friends,
I rooted my Nook using the instructions here (SalsichaNooter):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O05Y7C9a4eU
I didn't use the Clockwork method. I don't know how to revert and go back to your original instructions. I tried downloading usb-host-mt_pack-0.1.zip and installing the apps only but that didn't work.
Any suggestions on how I should go about the process without Clockwork? Or should I follow these directions to install clockwork even though I'm already rooted with SalsichaNooter?
I really would like to get a keyboard working on my Nook and feel like I'm so close.
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I didn't use the Clockwork method. I don't know how to revert and go back to your original instructions.
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You don't have to revert anything, a device rooted with salsichanooter works fine.
I tried downloading usb-host-mt_pack-0.1.zip and installing the apps only but that didn't work.
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That's because you also need another kernel and uramdisk and some configuration, that gets done by the updatepackage.
Any suggestions on how I should go about the process without Clockwork? Or should I follow these directions to install clockwork even though I'm already rooted with SalsichaNooter?
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This update-package can only be installed with the Clockwork-mod recovery. You don't have to install CWM on the Nook, just write it to a sdcard (like you did with the salsichanooter image), copy the updatepackage onto the sdcard, put the card into the nook and reboot. The Nook then boots into Clockworkmod Recovery, then you got to "install zip from sdcard", choose the usb-host-package, click yes and wait, eject the sd card, and click reboot.
thank you
Thanks for your input. I will try the process you suggested.
It worked!
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You don't have to revert anything, a device rooted with salsichanooter works fine.
That's because you also need another kernel and uramdisk and some configuration, that gets done by the updatepackage.
This update-package can only be installed with the Clockwork-mod recovery. You don't have to install CWM on the Nook, just write it to a sdcard (like you did with the salsichanooter image), copy the updatepackage onto the sdcard, put the card into the nook and reboot. The Nook then boots into Clockworkmod Recovery, then you got to "install zip from sdcard", choose the usb-host-package, click yes and wait, eject the sd card, and click reboot.
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I followed your instructions and it worked. Thank you very much.
Still Not working
I'm very new at this.
I have followed the above directions and patched with usb-host-mt-pack_0.1 successfully but my two USB keyboards are still not working.
I originally rooted my nook using TouchNooter 2.1.31.
I am using an OTG cable and am getting the solid green light after turning off current and selecting Host.
When i plug either keyboard (or bluetooth dongle for that matter) State changes from a_idle to a_host.
Other results:
Keyboard: none
all fields below that are blank.
Any suggestions on how i should proceed? Could this just be a matter of the keyboards not being compatible? What are the recommended keyboards?
Many thanks!
When you are having trouble, try a wall-powered hub (at least as a test).
I have seen where it switches to a_host but it's not really connected.
The "View USB" button is helpful and will show VID/PID.
If for some screwy reason you have a keyboard that is non-standard,
a lack of a black dot will indicate no driver is loaded.
Renate NST said:
When you are having trouble, try a wall-powered hub (at least as a test).
I have seen where it switches to a_host but it's not really connected.
The "View USB" button is helpful and will show VID/PID.
If for some screwy reason you have a keyboard that is non-standard,
a lack of a black dot will indicate no driver is loaded.
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Thank you, Renate. That worked great. My Bluetooth is working and I'm using my apple wireless keyboard to word process. My arrow keys don't work so I have to do some touching or backspacing to edit in google documents.
I have a chronic case of CVS (eye condition). This is really gonna help me. Do you recommend a stand with space at the bottom for the cord?
Thank you so much!
Stand? I love mine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661902
You can use either a desk stand or the little bendy tripod.
The arrow keys should work, but they get rotated when in landscape mode.
There is a mod to make them not rotate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30260821&highlight=keyinputqueue#post30260821

[Q] Rooting newer Nook version: how to know which software?

I have a Nook Simple Touch Glowlight with software verion 1.1.5. All the information that I've been able to Google is for 1.1.2, in fact that is the version that I still see on the B&N website.
I _think_ that I have found a suitable way to root the device with Nooter but I would like to know how to confirm that in fact this is the right project for my software version. I'm sorry that I cannot post a link to the Nooter project, but I have less than 10 posts.
Thanks.
There are at least two methods that work with the Glowworm.
You should not use any method until after you have
- made a noogie disk
- booted from it
- backed up your device
- restored that backup to a test disk (a 2 gig or larger microSD card, for instance) and confirmed that the test results in a disk that has 8 partitions.
Many people have made the backup but not tested it; when they tried to restore, they did bad to fatal things to their devices. A very common failure on restore seems to be only getting one partition restored and blowing out the other partitions.
I don't know if the stuff that eded is working on has come to fruition yet - he was looking at building a tool that could detect whether it was run on an NST or NSTG and root appropriately to the device.
The two routes I know work are:
- glownooter, the nooter project tool, includes Google apps and market support
- tinynoot, pasted together from various tools, gives you minimal root without google apps and with amazon appstore. Will work with either NST or NSTG because it's approach is so minimalist.
Thanks, roustabout! I will be sure to test the backups before I install anything else, then. Good to know!
In any case, what I am most concerned about is getting the right version of the rooting software for my device. I see that Nook devices have different firmware and that certain tools only work with certain firmware versions. I see no mention of my firmware version in any tools' websites, hence my apprehension.
hence the value of a backup
I saw your request on that and I think one of the issues here is that so many folks use Windows exclusively, and the backup process is so easy on linux that trying to tell people how to do it in Windows is like jabbing yourself in the eye with a stick, given that linux is free, vmware player is free, and linux can be installed and used for this job entirely in vmware player. On the other side of the coin, if you know nothing of linux, even using dd correctly will be a challenge since there's a pretty steep learning curve behind setting up a new OS successfully just to be able to get backups off an 80-130 dollar device.
In your case: as of now, there is only one firmware release for the glowlight. This is why the folks with the tools aren't mentioning it, aside from 'this is for a glowlight.'
I didn't mention it, but I also use Linux at home (Kubuntu, like Ubuntu but with a better UI). So many people are now using Ubuntu that I find it surprising that the instructions even bother mentioning the OSes for which the operation is as difficult as you say. I remember when doing things in Linux was hard and Windows was easy, and at that time Linux was hardly ever mentioned!
In your case: as of now, there is only one firmware release for the glowlight. This is why the folks with the tools aren't mentioning it, aside from 'this is for a glowlight.'
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I did not realize that the 1.1.5 release is glowlight-only. Great, thanks, I'm on to hacking this thing!
ok, so for you the backup process is:
- make the noogie disk
- put it into your device
- power cycle your device
- when it boots to "rooted forever," connect the USB cable to your linux box
- once the linux box mounts the NSTG as storage, pay attention to which device it is mounting it at. Assuming it's sdX:
- backup with dd if=/dev/sdX of=backup.img bs=1M
When that's done, disconnect your NSTG, throw media of some sort, larger than 2G, onto your box and test your restore with
dd if=backup.img of=/dev/sdY bs=1M
Once that's done, do an
fdisk /dev/sdY
and a
p to print the partition table.
You should have 8 partitions (and your backup.img file should be just under 2 gig.)
Hack away; if you ever need to restore, you can just drop the virgin image back on.
I take a snapshot like this of my device every so often since remembering how I got to whatever config I liked is harder than just backing it up.
Thanks for the backup instructions, the idea of testing it on a DVD-ROM looks to save quite a bit of trouble with the actual device..
I rooted with this terrific guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675706
The process was simple. I do have an issue where I need to install a Hebrew font but ES File Manager doesn't seem to see the root folders. I'm having a hard time googling my way out of this one, bu all the other little issues were fairly simple.
One issue that I will mention that was hard to solve was the inability to perform searches in the Market. This page helped me resolve that issue:
blog.the-ebook-reader . com/2011/07/15/rooted-nook-touch-fixing-market-search-and-other-tips-and-tricks-video/
I just figured out that the file manager has to have Root permissions enabled. I've enabled it and added some fonts to /system/fonts but I still cannot get Hebrew text to display on this device. All I get are the typical rectangles instead of characters. Any ideas about how to proceed?
Thanks.
Restore Nook 1.1.2
roustabout said:
Many people have made the backup but not tested it; when they tried to restore, they did bad to fatal things to their devices. A very common failure on restore .
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1. I made this exact same mistake yesterday and I ended up with a bad backup.
2. My Nook Simple Touch (1.1.2) is now not working because I wiped ALL the partitions before attempted to restore the backup (which I didnt know was bad at the time)
3. Please help me restore the Nook back to factory or any working state. Are there any restorable backup images that can be downloaded online?
p.s. I have tried touchnooter and installed touchformatv2 but all I get now is a Read Forever load screen.
Please Please Help Me Im so sad (I know this is down to carelessness on my part but I really need help)
bubblewrapper said:
1. I made this exact same mistake yesterday and I ended up with a bad backup.
2. My Nook Simple Touch (1.1.2) is now not working because I wiped ALL the partitions before attempted to restore the backup (which I didnt know was bad at the time)
3. Please help me restore the Nook back to factory or any working state. Are there any restorable backup images that can be downloaded online?
p.s. I have tried touchnooter and installed touchformatv2 but all I get now is a Read Forever load screen.
Please Please Help Me Im so sad (I know this is down to carelessness on my part but I really need help)
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Few people who will be knowledgeable will find your post buried here under this thread. i suggest that you simply start a new thread with a good descriptive title so that the gurus will find it.
Not sure how to get hebrew working. One assumes that in addition to the characters, you need it to right to left? If it's the latter, I know there was a thread discussing doing this with Arabic, and I'm not sure how that turned out. You can also google around for folks looking at this on, I think, mobilereads.
roustabout said:
Not sure how to get hebrew working. One assumes that in addition to the characters, you need it to right to left? If it's the latter, I know there was a thread discussing doing this with Arabic, and I'm not sure how that turned out. You can also google around for folks looking at this on, I think, mobilereads.
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Actually, I think that I just need the fonts (or at least that would be a great first step). I put fonts with Hebrew glyphs in /system/fonts (using ES File Explorer in Root mode) but even after a restart it does not find the fonts (i.e. Hebrew text still shows as rectangles). I will fight with it some more in the coming days, if I don't succeed I will start a new, concise thread on the topic. There are plenty of Google posts on the subject, but all of the ones that I have seen (not Nook-specific) suggest that dropping the fonts is /system/fonts should be enough. Perhaps it is a permissions issue, I'll see if I can SSH into the device to see permissions.
dotancohen said:
I have a Nook Simple Touch Glowlight with software verion 1.1.5. All the information that I've been able to Google is for 1.1.2, in fact that is the version that I still see on the B&N website.
I _think_ that I have found a suitable way to root the device with Nooter but I would like to know how to confirm that in fact this is the right project for my software version. I'm sorry that I cannot post a link to the Nooter project, but I have less than 10 posts.
Thanks.
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Sorry that I am so slow to respond, but I think this is the information you need to root a Nook with Glow on version 1.1.5
It uses Glownooter
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
and this is the backup routine
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
ladykayaker said:
Sorry that I am so slow to respond,
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Thank you! You don't need to apologize for taking time to respond, you are under no obligation! But I very much do appreciate your assistance and am happy to wait patiently! You will notice that I usually google issues first to try to save us both the time!
I think this is the information you need to root a Nook with Glow on version 1.1.5
It uses Glownooter
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
and this is the backup routine
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch/
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Thank you. It seems that those posts are Windows-centric summerizations of information found here at XDA-developers. The root is pretty much the process that I used, but from the guide right here which has Linux directions as well.
By the way, the-ebook-reader site is often not responding for me. Is it just for me, or does everyone have trouble with that site?
Thanks!
version 1.2.0
UK glowlight ships with 1.2.0. Use tinynooter to root this. You may have issues installing apps atm though but you will get the browser at least.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961835
Thanks, Loney. In fact, I got this Glowlight in the US, and it reports that it has software verion 1.1.5. But the information will be good for others who might google this thread!

[Nook Simple Touch][FW1.2.1] Kernel with Two Point Touch Mod for Download

Hi all,
Thanks to the huge discount on Nook Simple Touch earlier this month in UK, hopefully the device will regain some popularity and draw more attention from the XDA community. Unfortunately all the new devices come with firmware v1.2.0 while most posts in the forum were for the outdated v1.1.x, including the brilliant multitouch mod from wheilitjohnny. I know there is a way to downgrade to v1.1.x but I still prefer v1.2.1 after I tried v1.1.0. So I decided to port wheilitjohnny's mod to v1.2.1. After one week's hard work as I'm a newbie to the Linux world, I finally built the kernel and saw no more boot loop. All the multitouch test tools from Market correctly reported up to 2 fingers.
Before put the kernel to your device, make sure it's already running 1.2.1 firmware and rooted. You can find the link to the official upgrade file in the forum and you can use Nook Manager to root your device which is also available in the forum.
Then please found the kernel attached as zip file. You need to unzip the file and follow arkusuma's post on how to install it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24168019#post24168019
All credits go to wheilitjohnny. It's all his work.
One lesson I learned for all the developers who may be interested in more mod development is, to make a bootable kernel you MUST use toolchain from "http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1293". Select the IA32 GNU/Linux TAR one (MD5: c6930d14801b4fab6705d72df013e58b). Any other toolchains including Google's own or even another version from codesourcery won't work. The generated kernel built with any other toolchains will only cause boot loop.
[UPDATE] Oh forgot to say, you need to add one more line to your /etc/permissions/required_hardware.xml on your device. You should be able to find the first line already in the file, just add the second line.
<feature name="android.hardware.touchscreen" />
<feature name="android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch" />
More info please check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563645
Does this kernel work with NoRefresh (I assume debug2 version for FW 1.2.x)?
koltshin said:
Does this kernel work with NoRefresh (I assume debug2 version for FW 1.2.x)?
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Yes. I have NoRefresh_Debug2 and Fast Mode mod running together with this kernel. No problem so far.
Thx. Does this kernel works for both Nook Simple Touch and the Glow light model?
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waynesi said:
Hi all,
One lesson I learned for all the developers who may be interested in more mod development is, to make a bootable kernel you MUST use toolchain from "http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1293". Select the IA32 GNU/Linux TAR one (MD5: c6930d14801b4fab6705d72df013e58b). Any other toolchains including Google's own or even another version from codesourcery won't work. The generated kernel built with any other toolchains will only cause boot loop.
I've had good success with the toolchain on Ubuntu; just install the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi packages, and add the Makefile and head.S changes that were in the fastmode2 patch; I've not tried building this touch mod, but it has let me build my own kernels with usb host and with TLS support.
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I can confirm that this kernel works on a NST with Glowlight on FW. 1.2.1 Thanks for the hard work.
Can I use this kernel for 2 fingers zoom in? I tried it with aldiko, but do not work with pdf.
You need to unzip the file and follow arkusuma's post on how to install it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24168019#post24168019
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Could somebody please help me installing this without adb over wifi? Because i have internet only over ethernet. I was thinking of CWM.
Thanks
Sagittarius0 said:
... without adb over wifi?
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Well, how about ADB over USB?
Renate NST said:
Well, how about ADB over USB?
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Can you please help me exactly how to do it? I have tried it once for some other reason and it didn't work... :crying: And after that I searched for it here and found a post which said that adb works only over wi-fi.
And I am quite new with android so please explain the process well.
waynesi said:
Yes. I have NoRefresh_Debug2 and Fast Mode mod running together with this kernel. No problem so far.
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Fast Mode don't works on my NST fw 1.2.1. What app exactly are you using to activated the fastmode?
update: this kernel don't have / sys/devices/platform/omap3epfb.0/graphics/fb0/fmode so fastmode is not possible
tebra said:
Fast Mode don't works on my NST fw 1.2.1. What app exactly are you using to activated the fastmode?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39529578&postcount=140
Step one, use noogie and do a full backup of your Nook.
It should be almost 2GB file size.
Using noogie, copy uRamdisk.
Use bootutil.exe (in signature):
Code:
bootutil /x /v uRamdisk init.rc
[i]edit init.rc[/i]
bootuil /r /v uRamdisk init.rc
The line you edit out (with a number sign) is
Code:
[color=red]#[/color] setprop service.adb.tcp.port 5555
(uncomment this line to go back to using WiFi ADB)
Copy uRamdisk back to the Nook.
Reboot your Nook.
Read up about getting the ADB drivers working on your desktop here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/BN_Nook_Simple_Touch/Installing_ADB
This thread is old, I know, but hopefully someone will spot this. So I took the plunge and installed Multi-Touch (running FW 1.21 and rooted). I followed the instructions for the ADB wireless method and also changed the required_hardware.xml file, resetting the permissions of the edited file to match those of the original.
Nothing is different? My original hope was that the pinch-zoom function in Dolphin 10.2.6 might work with this mod. It doesn't seem to work on either Android or Desktop settings in that browser. I can't see that it works anywhere. Maybe I need to reinstall Opera Mobile and test it there?
...
O.K., I just reinstalled Opera Mobile. No effect at all that I can discern.
Hmm....I am underclocking with No-frills CPU Control to 300 MHz. Is that the problem? Nope....changed back to 800 MHz and no effect.
So...what am I missing? Is there something I can check to be sure I did the ADB thing correctly (after I'm done using the "shell" do I just close it down or is there some closing command I should have used?). Does this mod have to be used in conjunction with something else?
I usually jump out of an ADB shell with ^C
There's an interim release of UsbMode-1.7a.apk in the signature.
If you touch the left 3/4 of the screen it will report touch coordinates.
It will indicate multiple touches.
That's the easiest way to see how many simultaneous touches your device supports.
My Nook: 2, my Kyocera: 4, my ZTE: 5
I installed a multi-touch test app from the Market and it showed that two fingers were recognized (no more), although the recognition was somewhat spotty.
I've been fussing around with it and sure enough it has begun to work with Opera Mobile, both at 800 MHz and 300 MHz (no discernible difference there). It also works very well with Perfect Viewer. It does not work with Google News and Weather (which really needs it), at least not the version that came with NookManager rooting.
Alas, it does not work with Dolphin, which was my main impetus for trying this. I've got Dolphin to the point where it is much more reliable than Opera Mobile but the only way to zoom is via a gesture which requires going to a blank screen, drawing the gesture and then returning to the current page. It makes one want to draw gestures that are not found in children's books. Although Dolphin claims pinch-to-zoom, it doesn't seem to work with the NST, at least not this version of Dolphin. Maybe I need to delve back into the past versions (which will probably be less stable in other respects...).
Well, anyway it works. I'll have to see if it affects the battery life in any significant way (I read on my Nook, too!). If not, I may as well keep it although its utility to me is limited.
Now to look at "no-refresh"......
nmyshkin, what about Google Maps?
Yes, I forgot to mention Google Maps (I was using "Places" but it amounts to the same thing). That works with multi-touch as well. I also noticed that to some extent multi-touch zooming in Opera Mobile is web-site dependent. For example, it does not seem to work at all on Wikipedia but worked OK on some other sites I tried. I just wish it would work in Dolphin
I just tried it with Orion Viewer (which I like for PDFs) and it also works there. It seemed to want to work with Kingsoft Office on the same PDF file but then the app crashed. There are other ways to magnify in both, of course.
I finally tried NoRefresh, and while it worked, I was left wondering what it is for other than as a "we can do this" feature. Lots of flickering while it made up its mind as a white-listed app was launched and then the image degradation thing. After I exited the app my screen was such a mess I had to reboot. I guess I'm used to the way the e-ink display sort of tears when scrolling (or even zooming now, for that matter). The NoRefresh just doesn't seem to give me anything I want. I have not tried FastMode. As I currently underclock to 300 MHz I am reluctant to overclock the Nook just so it will (sort of) work like something it is not and run down the battery really fast.

Nook Simple Touch Glowlight .. Need advice before rooting.

Hello all ...
Please .. I need some advice..
This is my first post. My sister has given me her Nook Simple Touch Glowlight. I would like to root it, as I've been looking for a device to keep notes and stuff on. I went as far as booting up with noogie.img and backing up the firmware. I don't know what to do, because I read that having a certain firmware changes everything? I don't think my sister updated the nook. Here is the information from the Settings / Device Info / About Your Nook.
Software Version: 1. 1. 5
Model Number: BNRV350
I read someplace that the sizes of the firmwares are different. The simple touch is 1. 82 and the simple touch glow is 1. 86.
Mine is 1 .82, but yet it has the glowlight? It says to hold the button down for two seconds to turn it on.
I see that B&N have new firmware for the nst & nstg. 1. 3 I believe. It said on the site that this firmware would be installed when the nook is idle. (via wifi) Anyway, I'm wondering if it would be ok to go ahead and root the thing, or upgrade the firmware first to maybe - 1. 2 (if I can find it?) before I do anything else? Oh and should I stay away from B&N's new 1. 3 firmware?
Thank You Very Much !!
WillyS.......
If you indeed have the Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight (black bezel), then the most recent stock firmware is 1.2.1 which can be downloaded here. I would recommend that you update to this as the first thing you do. Next you need to decide which of the multitude of rooting methods is best for you. You need to take into account what you wish to achieve by rooting the Nook and your skill/comfort level with the processes. I have followed many of the different processes, doing a factory reset between root versions. By far the easiest is Nook Manager. I, personally, prefer the Minimal rooting - back to basics method because it allows you to install just what YOU want. However, this method requires a fair amount of command line work.
EDIT: I made the assumption that you are in the US and have a US model. I believe there is a different firmware number for the international model. In any case, you should update the Nook to the most recent firmware before rooting.
Rooting nook .. Glowlight ..
Hello David and Thank You kindly for the reply!
Yes, mine is a Canadian version and it has the black bezel.
Thank you .. for correcting me on the firmware. I was looking at the wrong Nook version. (nook.barnesandnoble.com/u/software-updates-nook-glowlight/379004086)
I downloaded the correct 1. 2. firmware for the nook and I (like you) would rather install what I want to and have more control over what gets put on it. After I update the firmware, I'll come back and follow the links you provided. If you know what threads have the latest / newest info on rooting the nstg, can you please point me to it? (If you haven't already) Thank You Very Much for your help .. David.
Cheers
WS
You're welcome. If you are comfortable with a lot of manual, command line manipulation, start with the Minimal rooting - back to basics thread. There are many more and newer rooting methods, but each of them installs a bunch of apps that the creators use, which may or may not be of importance to you. If you start with the Minimal rooting - back to basics, you can then pick and choose the apps and modifications you want to apply to give you the best experience for YOUR needs. I am attaching the document I use to keep track of what I have done for your reference. Feel free to post any questions here.
Rooting Nook STG .. Firmware 1. 2 ...
Hi David and Thank You for the reference document.
Last night I downloaded 1.2.1 firmware and dumped it on the Nook. When I got up this morning I checked and 1.2 is installed. I looked around and found a 16gb Kingston (from GPS) SD-Card. It is only class 4, but it should be usable for the time being. I'll take a look online for a class 10. I don't know if there is any size, or class limitations, or not?
I'm at the rooting - back to basics thread. I'm going to read all this stuff over and see if I can figure it all out. Thanks again for your help and the document.
WS...
WillySizard said:
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Last night I downloaded 1.2.1 firmware and dumped it on the Nook. When I got up this morning I checked and 1.2 is installed. I looked around and found a 16gb Kingston (from GPS) SD-Card. It is only class 4, but it should be usable for the time being. I'll take a look online for a class 10. I don't know if there is any size, or class limitations, or not?
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Class 4 should work just fine. Since noogie only takes ~2GB (if I remember correctly) you don't really need a card any larger than 4GB to use this method of rooting. Having 8GB or 16GB card would be useful if down the road you will make use of the card to backup your Nook ROM & user-content for ease in recovery.
Don't really know where to go from here, or what to do ..
@ digixmax .. Thank You for the info on the SD-card. Good to know info!
@ david0226 .. I went to the page about rooting via the link and I have basic
understanding how / what needs to be done, but I'm not having much
luck finding and using the tools. I went and looked for the file used to
extract the 2 files from uRamdisk, but I couldn't find it. I did some reading
and looking around and found a program called Preboot (I think) by
Intel and it contained bootutil 32/64 and so on. I had to install preboot & then
uninstall it, to get bootutil and then install it. I tried using it to extract
the files, but I kept getting failed messages. Like invalid switch /x.
Invalid switch /v. Invalid file uRamdisk. I know I need to extract out 2
files: init.rc and default.prop. I tried to do so in the "Administrative Command
Window" on Win7_64bit, but it just wouldn't work with bootutil. Not the
one I had anyway. Any ideas? Thanks!
WillyS......
David0226 said:
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I am attaching the document I use to keep track of what I have done for your reference. Feel free to post any questions here.
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What extensions does "Extended Power Menu" provide?
Also, which uImage and uRamdisk do you use as uRecImg and uRecRAM?
TIA.
Here are the links to the relevant threads.
Extended Power Menu
Clockworkmod based Recovery post #75, see the entire thread here.
If you are going to do the Extended Power Menu, be sure to do the Clockworkmod based Recovery also or you risk wiping out everything you have done by accidentally hitting recovery in the Extended Power Menu. I you have installed Clockworkmod Recovery and accidentally hit "Recovery", it will just boot to Clockworkmod and give you a chance to back out.
@willys. I will have to look up the software I use and post tomorrow. Sorry I missed your question earlier.
@willys, I believe the program you want is "bootutil" which was written and shared by Renate NST. If you find a post by her and click on the yellow box in her signature, you will find links to the many custom programs she has written for rooting and managing rooted Nook Simple Touch devices.
David0226 said:
@willys, I believe the program you want is "bootutil" which was written and shared by Renate NST. If you find a post by her and click on the yellow box in her signature, you will find links to the many custom programs she has written for rooting and managing rooted Nook Simple Touch devices.
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Yes, I had to go to her profile and I found it there. I'll do this part first and see how it goes. After that (I think?) I need to get an android program (some kind of Installer maybe?) to do some other work with. Anyway, one step at a time. All for now. Thanks! ... WS.
digixmax said:
Class 4 should work just fine. Since noogie only takes ~2GB (if I remember correctly) you don't really need a card any larger than 4GB to use this method of rooting. Having 8GB or 16GB card would be useful if down the road you will make use of the card to backup your Nook ROM & user-content for ease in recovery.
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Class 2 and 4 will do just fine, in my case I used 520 Mb microSD card for installing various ROMs, tried quite a lot of them, always worked fine.
Almost done, but need a little more help . . .
Mnurlan said:
Class 2 and 4 will do just fine, in my case I used 520 Mb microSD card for installing various ROMs, tried quite a lot of them, always worked fine.
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OK .. Thank You Mnurlan!
@David0226 ...
Just getting to the point where I'm ready to add programs. have edited uRamdisk and re-installed the two files. I've download android-sdk package and have installed it. I have been in the nook via wifi using ndb shell as root. I am now following your notes file. I've created the archive folder on the nook - /system/archive and I've been moving files over from /system/apps folder. I got Nook Manager written to the sd-card and I have PackageInstaller.adk from it, but I I'm not sure how I get that onto the nook. When I boot with NookManager, it ask if I want to root. I have already done that and it is working. Should I let it do it anyway?
Thank You!
WillySizard . . . .
@WillySizard ...
Connect to the Nook with adb then exit the adb shell back to your Windows command prompt. Once back at the command prompt, you should be able to install any package using this command ...
adb install {package_name.apk}
Nook Simple Touch Glowlight .. Need advice before rooting ..
David0226 said:
@WillySizard ...
Connect to the Nook with adb then exit the adb shell back to your Windows command prompt. Once back at the command prompt, you should be able to install any package using this command ...
adb install {package_name.apk}
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Ahhh .. ok. Good enough then. That should get me off and running.
Thank You .. David. Sorry I'm being such a pest.
Me, also
Just paid $5 for a BNRV350 at a rummage sale.
I understand BN disabled the web browser with the current operating system.
I can get a Google search window (by repeated tapping on the "Google" or maybe the "404" or the "that's all" links that appear when I try the "connect to social" settings menu choice for Google. And "find my account" worked when given the Gmail userid (because the keypad on the Nook lacks a period for typing a proper email address, in this view).
And I can get a Twitter login page. Neither works well -- typing even a single letter into the password field resets the page, so it's letter, then tap in the field window, then another letter, then tap in the field window. Sometimes it shows a row of dots for characters already entered, other times those are invisible but the entries are still there.
Just curious to add to the above fellow's thread for anyone searching for this Nook model number, if anyone has advice or suggestions about making it useful.
Reverting to the original OS to have use of the web browser would be a welcome option, if that's possible. Pointers welcome. Right now this Nook has version 1.1.5 installed -- I gather that's one of the improved versions that killed the stock web browser.

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