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Found this very interesting

Android Now More Popular Than iPhone In US
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Android-Now-More-Popular-Than-iPhone-In-US
well i guess we all knew that part but reading on it said this...
In terms of the wider market including feature phones Samsung saw its U.S. marketshare increase from 23.6% to 24.5%. Everyone else saw their marketshare decline, LG losing 0.3% to stand at 20.9%, Motorola down 1.8% to 17% and RIM losing 0.2% for a total of 8.8%.
so why all the hate on samsung phones?

bcl0328 said:
Android Now More Popular Than iPhone In US
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Android-Now-More-Popular-Than-iPhone-In-US
well i guess we all knew that part but reading on it said this...
In terms of the wider market including feature phones Samsung saw its U.S. marketshare increase from 23.6% to 24.5%. Everyone else saw their marketshare decline, LG losing 0.3% to stand at 20.9%, Motorola down 1.8% to 17% and RIM losing 0.2% for a total of 8.8%.
so why all the hate on samsung phones?
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I think MOST of the hate towards Samsung is that they're slow to update software, followed by buggy OS releases, and finally the plastic construction.
I personally think they're making the best hardware out there right now, with some compelling products, as long as you can someone else (like Google or the dev community here) to make the software "right."

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Can't wait till the Verizon iPhone comes out next week. The competition between Android and iOS is going to REALLY heat up and will result in much better phones for us

distortedloop said:
I think MOST of the hate towards Samsung is that they're slow to update software, followed by buggy OS releases, and finally the plastic construction.
I personally think they're making the best hardware out there right now, with some compelling products, as long as you can someone else (like Google or the dev community here) to make the software "right."
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I actually prefer the plastic construction. Using a metal touch-screen phone when the temperature is below freezing is not comfortable.
Also, what would happen if I dropped the phone? The Samsung frame and exterior parts would break, but by doing so less shock would be transmitted to the expensive parts inside. Which is how a motorcycle helmet works.
The worst thing about Samsung is the software. My I5700 will never be "right". A few dozen OS updates have been made, but nobody knows why, because none of the big bugs were ever fixed. Good hardware, lousy software.

I think it would be fair to say that 2010 was the year for Samsung, and judging by CES, 2011 will be the year for Motorola. And as far as the Verizon iphone goes, if what I heard is true (which would be a dumb move on Apple's part) and the iphone 4 will be coming out in the next month or so, Apple better have figured out their antena issue or there will be some very unhappy Verizon customers out there.

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I think it would be fair to say that 2010 was the year for Samsung, and judging by CES, 2011 will be the year for Motorola. And as far as the Verizon iphone goes, if what I heard is true (which would be a dumb move on Apple's part) and the iphone 4 will be coming out in the next month or so, Apple better have figured out their antena issue or there will be some very unhappy Verizon customers out there.
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Not sure I agree that 2011 will the year of Motorola.
Samsung's announced (and released already) some compelling products for 2011. It's not just ALL about CPU speed or # of cores.
Granted it's a matter of preference, but in my opinion, no one's come close to Samsung's SAMOLED screens yet (iPhone 4's close, but not there), and SAMOLED Plus screens should be even better. With LTE phones and some really smart tablet designs, Samsung certainly going to be competitive.
Personally, I don't see myself with anything that's not SAMOLED or better...display size and appearance is most important to me these days, as long as the CPU/GPU are fast enough for my apps. So far 1ghz single core is there. Dual core not interesting until there's a killer app I need that requires it. Maybe in 20102...?

chrisharmful said:
I think it would be fair to say that 2010 was the year for Samsung, and judging by CES, 2011 will be the year for Motorola. And as far as the Verizon iphone goes, if what I heard is true (which would be a dumb move on Apple's part) and the iphone 4 will be coming out in the next month or so, Apple better have figured out their antena issue or there will be some very unhappy Verizon customers out there.
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Who knows, Samsung might end up being on the top again this year depending on what announces they have at Mobile World Conference. I doubt Motorola has anything else up their sleeves if they are attending that conference after seeing what they announced at CES.

True, I tell everyone that samsung makes the best hardware in the mobile market. When I bought my Captivate, one of my iphone friends was sorely tempted to switch to the Captivate. So, software issues aside, Samsung hardware is the best out there at the moment. But the Atrix looks like it's going to be a serious piece of hardware.
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chrisharmful said:
True, I tell everyone that samsung makes the best hardware in the mobile market. When I bought my Captivate, one of my iphone friends was sorely tempted to switch to the Captivate. So, software issues aside, Samsung hardware is the best out there at the moment. But the Atrix looks like it's going to be a serious piece of hardware.
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Too bad Motoblur will ruin it, not to mention.. Motorola's hatred on opening the bootloader (*Cough* Droid X *cough*)
Can't wait till the Verizon iPhone comes out next week. The competition between Android and iOS is going to REALLY heat up and will result in much better phones for us
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I highly doubt thats true, the iPhone is only ONE phone.. whereas Android is coming out from all directions. There's a new android phone/tablet/whatever coming out every other month, iPhone is coming out.. like every year or two?
I never even considered iPhone to be a competitor in terms of hardware.

zephiK said:
I highly doubt thats true, the iPhone is only ONE phone.. whereas Android is coming out from all directions. There's a new android phone/tablet/whatever coming out every other month, iPhone is coming out.. like every year or two?
I never even considered iPhone to be a competitor in terms of hardware.
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You don't think that the iPhone being released on America's 2nd biggest carrier will affect competition? Well here's a humbling fact:
Nobody who posts on XDA affects smartphone sales. We are a negligible fraction of smartphone users. You know who use smartphones, especially iPhones? Every teenager in America. Every college student in America. Mothers. Fathers. Grandparents. Everyone outside the small walls of XDA.
All of those people will perk up when then iPhone is released on Verizon. And the added competition will, necessarily, drive innovation for Android. That's a Good Thing.
You may not consider the iPhone as anything comparable to Android, and of course myself and everyone else who has the will to create an XDA account would agree, but the rest of the world does. And they're the ones that drive innovation, not us.

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Too bad Motoblur will ruin it, not to mention.. Motorola's hatred on opening the bootloader (*Cough* Droid X *cough*)
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So true. When I see all the great phones being released in 2011 with crazy amazing specs, all I can think is, "too bad they will all be crippled by the manufacturers and carriers."
Oh well, this Nexus S will ride me through all the guinea pig dual core phones of 2011.

ravidavi said:
You don't think that the iPhone being released on America's 2nd biggest carrier will affect competition? Well here's a humbling fact:
Nobody who posts on XDA affects smartphone sales. We are a negligible fraction of smartphone users. You know who use smartphones, especially iPhones? Every teenager in America. Every college student in America. Mothers. Fathers. Grandparents. Everyone outside the small walls of XDA.
All of those people will perk up when then iPhone is released on Verizon. And the added competition will, necessarily, drive innovation for Android. That's a Good Thing.
You may not consider the iPhone as anything comparable to Android, and of course myself and everyone else who has the will to create an XDA account would agree, but the rest of the world does. And they're the ones that drive innovation, not us.
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I totaly agree with your last part.. oh well.. i guess we have to get used to it that we are the elite minority
Jokes aside.. the iPhone can be consisered as a competitor only because it is just another smartphone like all the Android phones out there.. when it comes to advancement the Android will always be ahead because of the sheer number of devices being available.. hetherto the iPhone is the iPod of the mp3 players..and its considered a trendy brand all teenagers must have until they grow up and get influenced by us veterans
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I think you're making it out to be a bigger deal than it is really. Yes I'm sure there will be decent VZW iphone sales, but most of the people who want an icrap already have one by now.
I really doubt there's even 10m icrap lovers out there on VZW that couldnt make the switch because they could get any service from ATT. 10m additional icrap users is nothing when android is has 300k new activations every day.

ravidavi said:
You don't think that the iPhone being released on America's 2nd biggest carrier will affect competition? Well here's a humbling fact:
Nobody who posts on XDA affects smartphone sales. We are a negligible fraction of smartphone users. You know who use smartphones, especially iPhones? Every teenager in America. Every college student in America. Mothers. Fathers. Grandparents. Everyone outside the small walls of XDA.
All of those people will perk up when then iPhone is released on Verizon. And the added competition will, necessarily, drive innovation for Android. That's a Good Thing.
You may not consider the iPhone as anything comparable to Android, and of course myself and everyone else who has the will to create an XDA account would agree, but the rest of the world does. And they're the ones that drive innovation, not us.
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You're becoming irrelevant the poster said:
The competition between Android and iOS is going to REALLY heat up and will result in much better phones for us
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Now what does he mean by better phones?
- Better Hardware? I highly doubt it, like I said previously; iOS is only one phone and releases every one or two years (Whatever it is) whereas Android releases one every other week. iPhone may beat the competition and have that "king" for a couple of months, but it is just a matter of time until something else takes over. iOS is only one phone, Android is attacking iOS from all angles (Motorola, Samsung, LG, HTC, and more).
- Better Firmware with newer updates? This may be on Apple's side due to Android's fragmentation but that is mainly due to manufacturers and the carriers. But since this is the Nexus forum, we're pretty much guaranteed to have the newest and latest Android version.
How exactly is this competition? There's a saying that says, "quality over quantity." Just because Lady Gaga is getting more sales than another artist doesn't mean that she's a better artist. Or another example is, just because more people use Windows.. does it necessarily mean that its a better OS than Linux? No. It just means that it is more "mainstream," it necessarily doesn't mean its better. For as I care, I can really care less about the numbers that iOS is selling compared to Android. This is pretty much Mac vs. Windows revisited but on a more portable battlefield.
And I highly doubt that Verizon would stop marketing the "Droid" just because they have the iPhone. Droid has been a highly successful marketing term for them.
Nobody who posts on XDA affects smartphone sales. We are a negligible fraction of smartphone users. You know who use smartphones, especially iPhones? Every teenager in America. Every college student in America. Mothers. Fathers. Grandparents. Everyone outside the small walls of XDA.
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Stereotypical much? That's like saying every teenager in the U.S. has a iPod. Yeah the majority has one but does it mean every single one of them have a iPod? No.
And XDA has a iPhone section, just saying.
Also.... as another backup statement, since iPhone is not exclusive to ONE carrier in Europe.. they have multiple carriers (Vodafone, T-Mobile UK, etc)... take a look at their perspective. Take a look at who's striving there, Android or iOS?

[NEWS] Samsung Overstate Sales of TAB. Lies and Deception

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/samsung-says-galaxy-tab-sales-to-consumers-actually-quite-small/
"When is a tablet sold not actually a tablet sold? When it's a Galaxy Tab, apparently. As The Wall Street Journal reports, those two million Galaxy Tabs that Samsung reported it had "sold" in the fourth quarter of last year were apparently not actual sales to consumers, but simply sales to distributors (which is a different matter altogether). Even more surprisingly, Samsung's Lee Young-hee further explained on an earnings call on Friday that so-called "sell-out" sales to customers were actually "quite small," but she wouldn't provide a specific number. Somewhat confusingly, however, she also later noted that while "sell-out wasn't as fast as we expected," Samsung still believes that sales to consumers were "quite OK," and that it is "quite optimistic" about 2011."

ahhhhhh who cares about numbers? i didnt get my tab because the Tab sold million, i got it cuz its awesome! but i do admit, one less thing to brag about :/ oh well.

Yeah, and this is the very first company to fudge the figures to make themselves look better.
Seriously OP, WTF are you whining about? They all do it.

Yup, Microsoft did exactly he same with Windows Phone 7 sales. Sales of licences to distributors != phones in consumers hands. They all do it.
Except Apple... the really don't need to. Bastards.

The majority of phone companies do this.
They are correct that they sold 2 million tabs but thats to distributers etc.
So i cant see where they have.misled or decieved someone? They correctly stated how many they have sold.
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This effects us how? No offence, but this won't change anyone's opinion on the Tab. I could give a horses Arse if they soils 13million or a hundred, I still love it.
But in their defence, they never stated who the sales were to.
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Sadly some people strongly identify with the things they buy and so take it personally when it is perceived to be "not so good".
The kind of people that buy "lifestyle" products.
BTW, as stated above, this is pretty much how these things are reported.

Lol, like it matters. We all love the Tab, regardless of how many they sold

This is quite a gray area...
When I am not traveling the world putting boot to ass for this great country of mine... I work with a very close friend who runs a multi-national corporation manufacturing musical instruments.
When he reports to his share holders, they report sales to distributors. Once the item has been delivered to the distributor or vendor... IT IS SOLD. What they do with them after that is their concern.

Well, Engadget and the WSJ had to admit that they made a mistake. Lee Young-hee said that the sales were "quite smooth" not "quite small" It was a misquote. Engadget issued a correction post here: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/01/samsungs-lee-young-hee-was-misunderstood-galaxy-tab-sales-are/

and yet, the statement on engadget is quite sinical aside from the admittance
anyway I'm agreed, I bought the tab coz i like it, no matter how the sales are
I actually preferred things that not too many people had it, coz i want to be different
luckily in my country, not that many tab user, so at least i'm classified as the exclusive ones, not like the iphone user who's become so common they're not as "regal" as before

Justin^Tan said:
and yet, the statement on engadget is quite sinical aside from the admittance
anyway I'm agreed, I bought the tab coz i like it, no matter how the sales are
I actually preferred things that not too many people had it, coz i want to be different
luckily in my country, not that many tab user, so at least i'm classified as the exclusive ones, not like the iphone user who's become so common they're not as "regal" as before
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I agree. I wanted to be different as well. For a good 2 months I haven't seen anyone in my country use the Tab, and when I'm around cafe's, people holding iPads would give me a stare. So far I've only seen one person in my school using one, and one guy I saw in the airport had one as well.
Aside from the Tab, the reason why I love Android much more is because I can make it look so different from other people's devices. So even if I was beside someone who owned a Tab, they would look so different when placed together.

If Samsung updates my gtab to honeycomb I will find it in my heart to forgive them - lol
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Guess alot of people are holding back on the tab because of tab2. But I still love & hug my tab. Sales figure doesn' t matters.

lies and deception? LOL. I'm sorry, but what.
If they said they only sold 1 tab, or a hundred zillion, who cares...

Water proofing technology: Liquipel

Hello people!
So far there have been mixed views about the SGS3. Initially I was a little let down. After thinking about it for sometime, I realized I had bought into the hype that Samsung themselves were responsible for, and that if I looked at it from a "Let's see the spec sheet" point of view, it was a great phone!
One of the features I was expecting was the new water repelling technology which was debuted as CES 2012 : Liquipel, and I thought it could warrant a discussion.
Although it can be applied on after the phone is bought (at a significant price), it is only available for US consumers.
Any thoughts on the technology? Alternatives? Am I the only one who was expecting something of this sort in a pwerful, flagship and moreover - expensive, next generation smartphone?
Cheers!

Erahgon said:
Hello people!
So far there have been mixed views about the SGS3. Initially I was a little let down. After thinking about it for sometime, I realized I had bought into the hype that Samsung themselves were responsible for, and that if I looked at it from a "Let's see the spec sheet" point of view, it was a great phone!
One of the features I was expecting was the new water repelling technology which was debuted as CES 2012 : Liquipel, and I thought it could warrant a discussion.
Although it can be applied on after the phone is bought (at a significant price), it is only available for US consumers.
Any thoughts on the technology? Alternatives? Am I the only one who was expecting something of this sort in a pwerful, flagship and moreover - expensive, next generation smartphone?
Cheers!
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This would probably come at the cost of having no replaceable battery and microSD-slot, so I'd rather just get a waterproof case if I really need it to be waterproof.

Toss3 said:
This would probably come at the cost of having no replaceable battery and microSD-slot, so I'd rather just get a waterproof case if I really need it to be waterproof.
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you are totally wrong, i think you missed the demo video of galaxy s2 with liquipel. Phone can be made water proof even with removable sd card and battery
here is the demo video
@ op
the technology is not even a year old so i dont think mobile manufacturers will adopt earlier.lets hope we can get it separately for a cheap price

WooooooooW this is amazing
it's a shame that it's only available to US only

Thats really a great share. Hope this comes in India too.

Erahgon said:
Hello people!
So far there have been mixed views about the SGS3. Initially I was a little let down. After thinking about it for sometime, I realized I had bought into the hype that Samsung themselves were responsible for, and that if I looked at it from a "Let's see the spec sheet" point of view, it was a great phone!
One of the features I was expecting was the new water repelling technology which was debuted as CES 2012 : Liquipel, and I thought it could warrant a discussion.
Although it can be applied on after the phone is bought (at a significant price), it is only available for US consumers.
Any thoughts on the technology? Alternatives? Am I the only one who was expecting something of this sort in a pwerful, flagship and moreover - expensive, next generation smartphone?
Cheers!
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Can I ask you why Samsung is responsible for overhyping their own product? I think it was the fans that totally overhyped it.
Samsung never released or confirmed any kind of rumors. Just wanted to give my two cents on the subject.

bala_gamer said:
the technology is not even a year old so i dont think mobile manufacturers will adopt earlier.lets hope we can get it separately for a cheap price
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Rumors has it that the iPhone 5 is getting this. Also I think the Droid Razor MAXX has Moto's own waterproofing method used. Yeah, it's relatively new, but I would have expected the SGS3, what with it being the frontier of tech, to have such implements! But yeah... it is what it is.
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WooooooooW this is amazing
it's a shame that it's only available to US only
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Thats really a great share. Hope this comes in India too.
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I really hope this tech goes wordwide! It's a real problem for phones. I've had friends with phones suffering from water damage due to sweat (I've had a phone go through this as well)!
SlimJ87D said:
Can I ask you why Samsung is responsible for overhyping their own product? I think it was the fans that totally overhyped it.
Samsung never released or confirmed any kind of rumors. Just wanted to give my two cents on the subject.
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I guess from Samsung's standpoint they were just advertising and in essence we tech enthusiasts were the cause of the overhyping. Although their adverts about "separating yourself from the sheep" and such just made already wild imaginations run all the more wilder! I guess I could've phrased the post better, but I wanted to get to the topic fairly quicker!
That's what made me really pull back and realize what a good phone it was at it's projected price-point (I'll save my final verdict when it's in my hands). It made me ask the question: What was I really expecting and what did we get, imagination aside?

SlimJ87D said:
Can I ask you why Samsung is responsible for overhyping their own product? I think it was the fans that totally overhyped it.
Samsung never released or confirmed any kind of rumors. Just wanted to give my two cents on the subject.
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I think they decided to act the exact same way as Apple, knowing how much hype Apple generates like this.
True, they're not directly culpable or anything, but now they're paying for it anyway. (Maybe not; it's too early to tell.)
As to the actual topic, I vowed that my next phone would be waterproof. Not sure how realistic that is, but yeah, waterproofing could've been a real improvement that the fans would've been satisfied with.
Hopefully, by next year (my likely time of upgrade), it would have become standard.

thebobp said:
I think they decided to act the exact same way as Apple, knowing how much hype Apple generates like this.
True, they're not directly culpable or anything, but now they're paying for it anyway. (Maybe not; it's too early to tell.)
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Samsung galaxy s series has matured enough to have its own launch event so nothing wrong about it. ITs the rumor mill which increased the hype, samsung never said it will have a bezeless screen + virtual buttons.(I was dreaming for both of those features after reading it from the net)

The term is hydrophobic ie water repellent. I already use a very hydrophobic coating. What you need is super hydrophobic which I assume is being shown in the vid. Tech been around for 3-4yrs
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Another water test video with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70RMWiavxj0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWSMhacRAs8

It takes about 15 minutes to do. My buddy took his S2 in and got it back within 30 minutes. Check and see if they're local. There's one near Long beach, CA. This way you won't have to send the phone in and be without it for several days. Not to mention saving on shipping.

Coming back to the GS3 side of things, I have seen the new ad and it says 'Shares the warmth of Nature', just after it shows people being splashed with water.
Tried to post the link for youtube, but since am a new member, can't!
But you can search for Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-i9300) TV Commercial on Youtube. It is about 30 seconds in.
While this rumour is being going on, I think this might lead people to get a bit excited and assume that the phone already comes with this.
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Coming back to the post, though.
I believe the Liquipel would be a great product for the phone. However, I am concerned about the Waterproof claim they make. There are a lot of videos out there which show Liquipel failing, mainly because people dumped them in water, to test the claim out.
In those cases, the companies that the phones were bought from did not take any responsibility, and the consumer had to bear the costs themselves.

S3 unveiled as official Olympic phone

It's just been announced that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is to be the official phone for the upcoming Olympic Games in London. There's some speculation that there may be some limited edition phones available.
http://www.newsbroadcast.co.uk/31265/the-samsung-galaxy-s3-revealed-as-the-official-olympic-phone

that has been reported days ago and all the athletes are said to be given free sgs3s'.
wow!

Let's make a petition to get programming into the olympics!

This will definitely boost the sales. Alot.
Samsung is smart.

The Smoking Man said:
This will definitely boost the sales. Alot.
Samsung is smart.
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yeah you are correct

The Smoking Man said:
This will definitely boost the sales. Alot.
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Samsung definitely have the financial clout to pull something like this off. They'er going to have silly amounts of sales of this phone!

Reckless187 said:
Samsung definitely have the financial clout to pull something like this off. They'er going to have silly amounts of sales of this phone!
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Their last quarter figures were impressive even without the S3. These upcoming quarter results are going to be ridiculous

yay again samsung are ahead of the pack they will hold best phone of 2012 again
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Reckless187 said:
Samsung definitely have the financial clout to pull something like this off. They'er going to have silly amounts of sales of this phone!
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Yeah. I mean... Even if some people won't have a clue what a Galaxy SIII is, they'll still go and check out the phone simply out of curiousity - due to the massive promotion the phone will have worldwide (mentioned during commercial breaks in bumpers, on billboards, on the news, etc.)
I think Samsung has done this as insurance against Apple.
They know very well that Apple, despite using less powerful hardware, will still be able to amaze the masses and pull off decent sales - just because it'll be an iPhone. Apple at this point doesn't need promotion, since the huge mass of their consumers promotes these products on their own - though they may not know it.
Samsung is quickly rising to the top and to maintain the momentum until the next iPhone launches this Fall, and to maintain the sales of the SIII, Samsung will need something. Considering the Olympics are one of the most watched and discussed events on TV, the SIII will sell on its own.
I think that the iPhone 5 is also one of the reasons why the wireless charger has been delayed till September and why the 64GB versions will be launching later (most probably around the same time). Chances are that Apple will unveil their next device, which too will most likely support wireless charging, in September/October as well.

Htc who lmao
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The Smoking Man said:
Yeah. I mean... Even if some people won't have a clue what a Galaxy SIII is, they'll still go and check out the phone simply out of curiousity - due to the massive promotion the phone will have worldwide (mentioned during commercial breaks in bumpers, on billboards, on the news, etc.)
I think Samsung has done this as insurance against Apple.
They know very well that Apple, despite using less powerful hardware, will still be able to amaze the masses and pull off decent sales - just because it'll be an iPhone. Apple at this point doesn't need promotion, since the huge mass of their consumers promotes these products on their own - though they may not know it.
Samsung is quickly rising to the top and to maintain the momentum until the next iPhone launches this Fall, and to maintain the sales of the SIII, Samsung will need something. Considering the Olympics are one of the most watched and discussed events on TV, the SIII will sell on its own.
I think that the iPhone 5 is also one of the reasons why the wireless charger has been delayed till September and why the 64GB versions will be launching later (most probably around the same time). Chances are that Apple will unveil their next device, which too will most likely support wireless charging, in September/October as well.
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the iphone 5 don't stand a chance against the s3

paintball23456 said:
the iphone 5 don't stand a chance against the s3
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Tell that to the blind idiots who will queue up outside Apple stores a week in advance just to buy one!!!!

Reckless187 said:
Tell that to the blind idiots who will queue up outside Apple stores a week in advance just to buy one!!!!
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Haha you're right they will where i work there is an apple store like 2 mins away. Anyway i was driving by to go home and i see a long line outside the apple store i was like what the fudge.. People were setting up their tents ffs..
I go home and was on the net i see that the ipad 3 is coming out March 16th which was like two days away.. Bloody hell Apple have brainwashed people with their branding..
I wonder if it was called Strawberry would people buy it maybe Pineapple iPhone 4s i mean no offence or anything i am not hating it's good for apple. I used to own an apple 3gs at the time it was awesome for me i had never seen anything like it it was fun then it was the same thing over again. And their black release first then white was bollox...
Anyway i am not hating on apple nor android or Samsung or any other company for that matter i go for anything that can catch my eyes and interest.. Though i must say i am not a big fan of Blackberry's... I owned one in the past it was eh...

I'm working for the London Olympics, would be good to bag another S3 lol

newalker91 said:
Did none of you watch the launch event? They said this at the very end and had this fancy video for it and everything.
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No why would android lovers watch bull crap?
send from my brain to your con

sean2476 said:
I'm working for the London Olympics, would be good to bag another S3 lol
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Hahaha ask your manager to give you a free s3 or you fire your self
send from my brain to your con

Sold Out, artificial?

I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?

clockcycle said:
I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?
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Seriously, how could Google not understand that their products sell? It started with the Nexus 4 and it's been the same EVERY SINGLE RELEASE.
They do this on purpose it seems, because come holiday season, it's magically available again. Plus, the 32gb Silver XL is still available, how is that possible?

Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
ie white casing cracking, black glass being weaker, screens with strange hues, cameras with halos, slower ram, batteries buldging ect..
Black Xl 128 was showing up in stock every 6-7 hrs for 20mins. Then it was Silver Xl 128.. Why not keep allowing preorders and fill orders as they become available?

clockcycle said:
Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
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Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.

stevew84 said:
Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.

clockcycle said:
Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.

stevew84 said:
Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.
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Unless this in stock tracker is wrong, and I have been watching it since it started tracking and personally checked stock on googles site and confirmed most of the time, youre possibly right
Either that or few come back in stock from cancelled or orders that didnt go through.
http://www.nowinstock.net/electronics/mobilephones/unlocked/googlepixel/

clockcycle said:
Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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NEW IMPROVED PIXEL with 5.7" screen and stylus? hmmmm. before you realize it's too late KA-BOOM!

Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.

ippikiokami said:
Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.
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Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?

As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG

the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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ippikiokami said:
As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.

stevew84 said:
Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?
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Belimawr said:
the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.
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While I'm really enjoying the PIxel and it's fast as crap. My wife and I have had Notes since the 2 so yeah pretty much on the same boat. I would have a Note 7 right now if it weren't for the chance of death. Great example too.. Everyone also should say as they are presenting their cameras.. SONY SENSOR. The iphone , pixel, even many Samsung's in the past use them along with most of the phones cameras in the world.

ippikiokami said:
As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.

stevew84 said:
Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.

ippikiokami said:
Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.
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Huawei is plastered on the back of the 6P.
I don't know enough about Blackberry to comment.
The only difference between Apple and Google in this case is that Apple doesn't say that their iPhones are built by Apple...at least I don't think so. They don't mention Foxxcon, but they also don't say they built it themselves.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/26/apple_wait_wait_iphone7plus/
To show google isn't the only one having problems meeting demand.

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stevew84 said:
Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
Anyways, anyone remember the G1? It was the HTC Dream (first phone with Android), it had no HTC logos either. Most it had was T-mobile in front and "with Google" on back.. (I still have mine)

clockcycle said:
It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
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What Google is doing would be as if Ben & Jerry claimed that they make the cup which contains the ice cream.
I know that's a horrible analogy, but I thought it was funny.

clockcycle said:
Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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