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This is the word on the 4G forum here on XDA! Hope this soon leads to the incredible root but for now ill just be jealous.
Link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/
P.S. Thanks to anyone working on incredible root.
i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
Darn that really sucks
mejdam said:
i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
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Boo!
When I read the news on engadget, I had the warm and fuzzies. Same android build. Same sense. CDMA radio. Rooted! What a downer!
How can we get an INC into these guys hands? I'd be willing to donate some cash if it helps.
Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Lol not like it would hurt, that **** already full of spam and beggers haha
it was somthing in the bootloader that found that the incredible does not have. But rest assured that its bieng worked on and im sure we will have root.
nah, it wasn't the bootloader
looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
edit: after looking on the website it seems as if they have done deeper work than i assumed. I believe there may be similarities in what they did and what we need. He mentions that he used his linux background and knowldge of hacking bootloaders. maybe something is in store for us unlucky incredible users
nope it has been stated that it will not work for us. And it looks like my bootloader theroy is wrong..... mmmmm i wonder what it could be.
are you judging by this little footnote? "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible." - taken from grack.com . If they did anything to the bootloader i would assume an exploit can be derrived from this method. we dont need to use their entire method. From what i hear their bootloader is a higher version than ours which should make it more difficult to crack. If they ever release how they did it Im sure we can find some hope to help us.
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Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Knowledge is power and not sure what was up your rear when posting but any bit of information on semi similar phones never hurt anyone. Seeing how this isn't a post about an accessory app theme maybe could go into general but this is more of developmental news then general.
Well, I at least feel better knowing others are going through the same "pain" I am faced with. I'll donate my time and resources (I still don't have the Incredible thx to it being sold out everywhere... maybe I will try the Best Buy closest to me... although they kind of stink, they don't even carry any Apple computers while most ever other BB does) to get this fix0rz for the peeple!
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looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
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Nothing to do with test keys, no leaked images. There is no way to modify it to the incredible.
lol, I knew it was going to be rooted before, but I had some hopes it could have been used to help with the root for the Incredible. Oh well, such is life. I'm sure there are some Verizon Android developers that are still working on this....All the give me root and where's the root and other I want root spamming is not going to help with anything other than the continuous spamming of this section.
I really hate this waiting for the Unlockers/Root for any phone as it's nothing but spamming.
Just be patient and it will come. Then it's time for you to show your gratification to the developers for their hardwork that I'm sure most do in their spare time and not as their source of income...
[Insert some more I want root spam after this message]
YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/
Not the atrix :/
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know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
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YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/
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Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!
People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.
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know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
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To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.
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To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.
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well, if you want to enable sideloading right now, you have to root. =P
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Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!
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For pre-emptive complaining of course!
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People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.
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Not touchy. The OP is saying after reading this article that the Atrix is one of the phones. It is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Nobody is being touchy. People just need to stop posting "assumed" crap and post facts. Other people need to stop assuming that the assumptions are correct and posting not one iota of supporting evidence.
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In retrospect, you're probably right. Sorry about that. At least there's some news of hope on the horizon ^.^
I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.
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I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.
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I was glad to see someone not let their anger at AT&T fly back at the OP so they update some of their older phones that are probably easier to do at this point. This is obviously a sign that they have realized they cant treat us like Apple does. If we really want open phones we can and will have them. So they are going to just give them too us open. It will probably cut down on warranty claims from stupid people doing shoddy jobs of rooting and flashing their phones. Im sure motorola wont leave us hanging theyve taken good care of me so far. so just be patient.
Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"
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Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"
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Zing!
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I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S
Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?
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Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?
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I manually ran the OTA update for my wife's HTC Aria this morning. No joy. It just searched for what seemed like 10 minutes before I quit it.
Techcruncher said:
I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S
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Um, you can't get stuck on FroYo for rooting. If you deodex/install a P-ROM, you'll have to flash back to stock, however.
I haven't seen anyone get completely bricked by modding the Atrix. There's almost no risk if you understand what you're doing currently. It's not like the Captivate where you might get the black screen of death and have to make a jig.
Considering the extensive testing that AT&T requires before allowing firmware updates to be released, along with the fact that 4.1.83 was literally just released, its not surprising to see the Atrix not on the list.
I also agree with the bootloader thing, if AT&T was the reason it was locked, Motorola now has some incentive to unlock it. Not that they definitely would though, as other motorola devices on other carriers show.
UPDATE:
New article with word that the Atrix will be updated as well.
I want to root my phone but dont know if its possible witht the lastest update. im very new to all of this but i see there are many many more things i can do with it rooted than not rooted.
i also want to get sense 3.0 on it.
thanks for all help.
chesarae.garza said:
I want to root my phone but dont know if its possible witht the lastest update. im very new to all of this but i see there are many many more things i can do with it rooted than not rooted.
i also want to get sense 3.0 on it.
thanks for all help.
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for the love of christ............. diaf
chill out bro...forums dont need police! its just a question, dont take it so personal.
chesarae.garza said:
chill out bro...forums dont need police! its just a question, dont take it so personal.
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yes but it is the same question that has been asked a thousand times that you didnt feel the need to search for yourself. look like 3 posts down from your thread, then like 2 more down, then a few more down, notice anything? yeah those are the other morons who asked the same thing that has been beat to death because they felt they were to special to search.
i dont think we think were "to special" bro.
thanks for pointing me in the right direction though, thats all i needed.
So it can't be done or is it being worked on?
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Lpast said:
So it can't be done or is it being worked on?
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Currently it cannot be done. The source code for the ROM will be released soon and soon after you will have more ROMS, better kernels and rooting. Until then its a wait period for you. Its good practice to wait after an update (OTA) is released to the wild because you lose root and essentially you are stuck with that ROM until things are released etc.
Hope that helps and welcome to XDA.!
How long....?
I'm a n00b and I know there is no root method with a 2.3 OTA if you are S-On. The bootloader is locked.
Question: Whats a typical time-frame for somebody to do the hack? Days, weeks, Months.
From what I gather and read this work-a-round is going to be harder.
The reason I ask is that I am about to kank my Comcast wireless service. Increased from $26.99 to $49.99. I think I'm better off paying Sprint $30 for the hotspot. I am better off waiting a bit, then root to get the free hotspot tether to work.
FWIW - Maybe there should be a sticky titled "EVO 4G 2.3 Hack Update! - Sprint: 4 , XDA:3" One post per day, saying just "nada, zilch, nothing, - patience grasshoper"
Anything to see the status is No Can Do.
People will be mercilessness with asking the same ridiculous question.
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I'm a n00b and I know there is no root method with a 2.3 OTA if you are S-On. The bootloader is locked.
Question: Whats a typical time-frame for somebody do the hack? Days, weeks, Months.
From what I gather and read this work-a-round is going to be harder.
The reason I ask is that I am about to kank my Comcast wireless service. Increased from $26.99 to $49.99. I think I'm better off paying Sprint $30 for the hotspot. I am better off waiting a bit, then root to get the free hotspot tether to work.
FWIW - Maybe there should be a sticky titled "EVO 4G 2.3 Hack Update! - Sprint: 4 , XDA:3" One post per day, saying just "nada, zilch, nothing, - patience grasshoper"
Anything to see the status is No Can Do.
People will be mercilessness with asking the same ridiculous question.
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i would say average is a few weeks to a month based on previous ota getting rooted. however google seems to have done a good job at plugging all the holes and it may be considerably longer. no way to know how long really. just depends how much scouring it takes to find an exploit. take the rageagainstthecage exploit, that wasnt discovered until about 6 months after froyo was release iirc
I get aggravated to, but the guy asked the question in a decent enough. non-naab way.
Truth is, if you have 2.3.3 and you're S-on, there is no root, currently.
Give it some time, be patient and use the time to read as much as you can and get an idea of what you want and how you want to set it up once a root method is developed.
Specifically, I'd learn APS2SD/SD Card partitioning, Which ROMS suit your needs the best and how you want to set your screens up
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I get aggravated to, but the guy asked the question in a decent enough. non-naab way.
Truth is, if you have 2.3.3 and you're S-on, there is no root, currently.
Give it some time, be patient and use the time to read as much as you can and get an idea of what you want and how you want to set it up once a root method is developed.
Specifically, I'd learn APS2SD/SD Card partitioning, Which ROMS suit your needs the best and how you want to set your screens up
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op asked in a manner befitting someone who has not searched or tried to answer for himself hence is why he got some flammage. Schlenkerla, however, asked in an educated and obviously researched way which earned him a proper reply.
no root? How about another option?
ok, i have been reading every single day on how to re-root my evo. Now, im not asking if there is a root method yet, however i need to ask this.
Is is possible to revert the hboot, firmware, to a previous version. I an unable to install a ruu OS because im s-on of course. I would just like to know if there is ANY way to revert back to 2.2 so i can just root the normal way and start flashing roms daily again... It can be complicated, im highly technical, but i cant find anyhting talking about a way to do this.
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ok, i have been reading every single day on how to re-root my evo. Now, im not asking if there is a root method yet, however i need to ask this.
Is is possible to revert the hboot, firmware, to a previous version. I an unable to install a ruu OS because im s-on of course. I would just like to know if there is ANY way to revert back to 2.2 so i can just root the normal way and start flashing roms daily again... It can be complicated, im highly technical, but i cant find anyhting talking about a way to do this.
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not possible at this point. the 2.16 hboot will not allow an older version to be flashed.
Crap, that sucks! thanks for the info.
I am guessing the same goes with a factory reset.
Btw - what all does factory reset do?
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chesarae.garza said:
chill out bro...forums dont need police! its just a question, dont take it so personal.
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Forums also don't need the same question asked in 50 different threads.
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Or people running around being jerks on it. If a complete stranger asked you the same question for the 50th time in real life would you blow up in their face about it? No. So why would you on the internet? The internet makes people feel empowered to be rude because they aren't face to face. Let's just keep in mind that person on the other end is a human being, and we all are lazy and all don't search for stuff ok?
I can't tell you how many times my husband has said "I can't find the ketchup" and I say "did you look behind the milk?". The answer is always no, but that's where it is!
Maybe its just guys that have the problem with not knowing how to search.
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Because if someone asks you a question you've heard over and over, they may not be in a position to do a simple search for the answer before they ask....
Arbron said:
<snip> Let's just keep in mind that person on the other end is a human being, and we all are lazy and all don't search for stuff ok? <snip>
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Look, I am not a flamer (at least , not where noobs are concerned). I normally just ignore questions that have been answered 1000 times. Believe it or not, I am actually a pretty polite dood, especially to people I don't know. That being said, the thought process that starts with "everybody does it" and ends with "fvk it, i'll just ask instead of bothering to search" is just wrong. Feel free to search through every thread I have ever started and show me were I started a thread asking a question that had already been done to death. Do it. People get flamed because others want the questions to STOP! They WANT noobs to be too afraid of flaming to ask a question. I was gone on vacation, and away from from XDA for basically a solid week. During that vacation, I managed to smash my phone's screen. As soon as I got home, I put in for my replacement, and immediately started searching for root methods for the newest OTA. It took less than 10 minutes to determine that there was no news...with the exception of this, which obviously is not very helpful.
In short: Don't start a new thread unless you are SURE that there is not already a thread about your topic. If you decide to do it anyway, don't complain when you get flamed. It is your own fault. Human nature is no excuse for anything. We are humans and have the power to observe both ourselves and the world around us, and we have the ability to modify our behavior based on those observations. For instance, I was absolutely positive, when I began writing this response, that at least one person would feel the need to flame me for it. Go ahead. I can take it. I put my big-boy pants on.
I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really
koitsu1010 said:
I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really mate, I find it very useful.. I did have Verizon version, I just flashed the UK generic firmware and now it doesn't matter.
koitsu1010 said:
I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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It would get a bit mad if every provider got his own board... I'm getting annoyed with all the verizon talk that's going on. But since a lot of things are universal I wouldn;t want the boards to get split up.
Just don't open threads that state that they are for the R800i or for the rogers version.
The reason why you find few useful info about the R800x is quite simple: nothing has happened: no root, no unlocked bootloaders, nada.
You USAns should exert real pressure on your carrier cartel so that you don't get different models per carrier instead of whining about other people discussing their phone.
Hey be happy you get Vanilla Android.
kidding yea it can be frustrating when the Rogers model launched I was frustrated because their was no information or anything about it here because the European model was already launched.
Give it some time it will all get sorted out soon besides there is nothing yet for the Verizon Play.
I expect root to arrive soon because most newer android handsets like the Droid3 haven't been rooted yet and even european and canadian plays can't be rooted at 2.3.3 unless you use the loophole through 2.3.2 but your device launched with 2.3.3 so that is where the problem is.
Are device came with 2.3.2 thats how lame we are
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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Nice, listen I don't bag on your country I just find it a little odd other divices have Verizon sup forums but not the play if you have nothing nice to say then dont
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There isn't any because there is nothing you can do for it presently? But I understand your frustration, going through hundreds of threads that is irrelevant to yourself is a huge waste of time.
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Development is off to a slower start for the VZW Play but it will pick up eventually.
Just be thankful the members of this forum aren't always saying "Search before posting noob!" like the rest of the forums out there.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread
Ya I go into the android development section only to check the r800x root thread to see if there is an update, but I don't mind having a combined board. Just hope root comes soon.
We do not need a separate forum for one model of the Xperia Play.
The only real difference between the Verizon model and the rest is GSM and CDMA.
Verizon's model came with 2.3.2 on it but there is something blocking the Gingerbreak exploit from working, All you can do it be patient and hope that the Verizon versions see's some attention.
You cant go into every thread demanding an answer or wanting something outrageous to be done about the phone. Doing that will just piss off current Dev's and could ultimately hurt it for everyone.
Just sit back, relax, have fun with your phone, donate to help convince the devs to help us out, or complain. your call, but the last option will just get people ignoring you.
I didn't know if any of the ATT PREORDERED NOTE 3's were out yet or not - but am curioius to find out if ATT is going to lock the bootloader for this phone like they did for the S4?
I think it is inevitable, but I was hoping that maybe they wouldn't be
If this is in the wrong forum for this, let me mknow or have the moderator delete this - I looked and couldn't find any other threads for the NOTE 3.
Anyone?
PS - if the bootler is locked for the ATT Varient - I was thinking of buying an unlocked phone - any difference between the N9000 and N9005?
99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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I loved my NOTE 2 - got the S4 for the processor and camera - and want the Note 3 for the same reasons. The LOCKED BOOTLOADER thing is a bunch of crap - and it was a sad day when ATT started doing it. I doubt they will ever change policy, but I sure wish they would. It's one thing to lock a contract phone..I think I can understand their reasons for wanting to do that - but if I OWN the device - what business do they have preventing me from using it fully? arghh....oh well, fingers crossed we are both wrong - but I think your assessment was correct.
It's already been confirmed as locked by designgears. Great developer btw. Do a search. Also, look at the dev section cwm thread. Notice which models are missing? Att and Verizon.
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Also I would wait a week and wait for others to confirm the T-Mobile note 3 works on att. All data so far says it will. This has been discussed in a few threads.
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T-mobile note 3 working on AT&T as in LTE as well? 3g should work without any issue I would think.
If so it would make perfect sense to purchase a t-mobile n3 outright just for the unlocked bootloader.
Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Now for some shipping confirmation!!!!! I'm right with you!!!! Come on Negri!!!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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Thanks, that gives me a bit of hope... Most people thought the PS3 would never get owned, and it obviously was As it is I'm basically buying an expensive bike with training wheels rigged to blow the tires if removed and a titanium boot permanently affixed that the most powerful blowtorch available cannot cut through.