A buddy of mine has an iPad, and called to get support. They would not support him over the phone because apparently the iPad only has **90** days of phone support, and 1 year hardware support. My buddy was pretty disgusted by this response, considering how much he paid for his iPad, and asked "How do you know the problem isn't hardware???", they said that he would have to 'pay to find out'!!!!! Pretty sad considering how Apple technical support is rated so highly in the field.
So that brings me to my question. How does our warranty compare to that??? Both hardware (which I believe to be one year), and phone support?
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/service/warranty/GT-P7510MAYXAB
There's also a difference between hardware and software support.
You can get support all sort of way, the forums here being one of em.
t1mman said:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/service/warranty/GT-P7510MAYXAB
There's also a difference between hardware and software support.
You can get support all sort of way, the forums here being one of em.
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I saw that page already, but I didn't see mention of PHONE support, which is the basis of my question.
I got phone support from Samsung 7 months after the purchase to fix the Newton ring issue.
iPad support story:
My wife's iPad original started having a problem with the screen. Jagged jumping lines all over the screen making it unreadable. Kinda like when a monitor's VGA cable is bad.
I took the iPad into the nearest Apple store and had the people at the genius bar take a look. They took it into the back for about 5 minutes and came back to me. They said that "a chip had fried" within the unit and it couldn't be repaired. They could sell me a "reconditioned" one for $369 and had one in the back.
I told them that I'd wait and talk to my wife about it. It was a 64g model and we already had over $800 invested in it, I didn't have much excitement for investing another $369 in 18 month old, obsoleted technology.
Fortunately, my wife says all she needs is email, a browser, movies and solitaire. She's not married to an iPad and would be happy with an Android tablet.
Ok, I think, I'll see how much of that 64gb she's using to start shopping for an Android tablet. I connect it via wire to sync it since the screen is skitzo. I figure I can see the amount of memory used in iTunes. But it won't sync. I can't get iTunes to recognize it.
I figure that the Genius Bar folks must have powered it down. So I pick up the iPad and go to turn it on. What's this? The screen is perfect. It's back to normal. Nothing is wrong. I hand it to my wife and say, "Here, I fixed it." She is grateful and doesn't ask how and I don't explain that I have no idea how.
So, it's been working for months now without a hitch. Had I listened to the idiots at the Genius Bar I would have been out $369 more.
Whew!
Next time, tell your buddy to check the warranty information. That's *standard* for *all* Apple products. 90 Days phone, 1 year warranty. You have to buy AppleCare to get more, which is 3 years of both Hardware and Phone support.
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Also, as long as you're within the warranty time, Apple goes leaps and bounds to make sure your experience is a good one. Example, on my MacBook Pro, I walked in because my n key and right command key stopped working. They gave me a whole new top half of the base, no questions asked. Just an hour in the back while I shopped around the mall.
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Next time, tell your buddy to check the warranty information. That's *standard* for *all* Apple products. 90 Days phone, 1 year warranty. You have to buy AppleCare to get more, which is 3 years of both Hardware and Phone support.
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Also, as long as you're within the warranty time, Apple goes leaps and bounds to make sure your experience is a good one. Example, on my MacBook Pro, I walked in because my n key and right command key stopped working. They gave me a whole new top half of the base, no questions asked. Just an hour in the back while I shopped around the mall.
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About any quality laptop maker will do this, I had an issue with an Asus, key poped out. The sent me a new one without even a picture.
any hardware issue will be covered by the waranty, either by phone or by chat/e-mail or whatever. the Apple Care is for software or handeling the device, this, IMHO, is not related to "waranty", it is related to support, ie: How it works, how to make certain things, etc.
Under the 90 days period, you can call them to ask how to setup your email, or stuff like that. If you have an issue with the hardware not functonning properly, it's covered under the waranty.
And, for any device under waranty, you don't pay to troubleshoot the device, you pay so they do it for you.
BTW: the phone number IS in the link provided:
Phone: 1-800-SAMSUNG
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About any quality laptop maker will do this, I had an issue with an Asus, key poped out. The sent me a new one without even a picture.
any hardware issue will be covered by the waranty, either by phone or by chat/e-mail or whatever. the Apple Care is for software or handeling the device, this, IMHO, is not related to "waranty", it is related to support, ie: How it works, how to make certain things, etc.
Under the 90 days period, you can call them to ask how to setup your email, or stuff like that. If you have an issue with the hardware not functonning properly, it's covered under the waranty.
And, for any device under waranty, you don't pay to troubleshoot the device, you pay so they do it for you.
BTW: the phone number IS in the link provided:
Phone: 1-800-SAMSUNG
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http://www.apple.com/support/products/
Looks pretty warranty-ey to me.
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http://www.apple.com/support/products/
Looks pretty warranty-ey to me.
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All Apple hardware comes with a one-year limited warranty and up to 90 days of complimentary telephone technical support. To extend your coverage further, purchase the AppleCare Protection Plan or AppleCare+.
Because Apple makes the hardware, the operating system, and many applications, Apple products are truly integrated systems. And only AppleCare products give you one-stop service and support from Apple experts, so most issues can be resolved in a single call.
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You have a 1 year Waranty and a 90 days of tech support. The 90 days is "Apple Care". This is the "Software support included". The 90 days and that's it.
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You have a 1 year Waranty and a 90 days of tech support. The 90 days is "Apple Care". This is the "Software support included". The 90 days and that's it.
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No. The AppleCare is a purchase-able warranty that extends your phone support AND hardware support to 3 years each.
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Also, as long as you're within the warranty time, Apple goes leaps and bounds to make sure your experience is a good one. Example, on my MacBook Pro, I walked in because my n key and right command key stopped working. They gave me a whole new top half of the base, no questions asked. Just an hour in the back while I shopped around the mall.
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The difference is that you had to "walk in." My daughter, away at college, has a Dell computer. They showed up at her dorm room to fix it. I would consider that leaps and bounds.
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The difference is that you had to "walk in." My daughter, away at college, has a Dell computer. They showed up at her dorm room to fix it. I would consider that leaps and bounds.
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To each their own. Personally, I don't like them coming to my house because the kind of problems I have are also the kind that you can't just fix on site. Sorry, but I'm not about to replace, say, a transistor on the motherboard, because a drive came loose and rattled around, and I don't think anyone who comes out on-site can do that, either. They'd have to "send it in" anyway to have it fixed, so I guess it's just a "different strokes for different folks" type deal.
My point still stands, though, about exactly what Applecare is. (not that that's directed at you)
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My point still stands, though, about exactly what Applecare is. (not that that's directed at you)
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As you can see from an earlier post of mine, I had idiots try to help me at the Genius Bar. It's a hit and miss thing when you enter a store. There are such varying talents that Apple has some real duds in the retail world.
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No. The AppleCare is a purchase-able warranty that extends your phone support AND hardware support to 3 years each.
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I don't get your point...
Waranty covers hardware issue
Apple provide a 90 days phone support for everything else.
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I don't get your point...
Waranty covers hardware issue
Apple provide a 90 days phone support for everything else.
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If you don't buy the warranty. What they offer for buying the product is complimentary. That is what I have been trying to say.
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If you don't buy the warranty. What they offer for buying the product is complimentary. That is what I have been trying to say.
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They offer a 1yr hardware warranty and 90 days of Applecare. That is standard warranty coverage. Purchasing Applecare is purchasing an extended warranty. The included warranty and support is required by law in some places and industry standard minimum.
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Speaking from my own experiences.....
Samsung warranty service is probably on par with being the victim of a lesser sexual assault. Definitely worse than an undesired grope. Just my opinion. Definitely felt powerless and used after dealing with Scamsung.
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Because my Nexus one had a dead/stuck pixel, I called H.T.C. and requested a repair. I sent it to them, and a few days later they said that they had examined it and determined that I needed to pay for the repair. I asked them why, and they replied that it was scratched and cracked.
Well, when I sent it to them, I had an invisible shield (a full body one, mind you) on it, and there nary a blemish on the screen. I told them this, and after a few days (and a couple more telephone calls), one of their managers had a technician examine it, found that it was fine, and said that they would fix it for free.
I received it on Monday, but didn't touch it until Wednesday because I was busy at work and waiting for the new invisible shield that I had ordered. When I used it, I noticed that they had removed the invisible shield, which I expected, but they hadn't fixed the stuck pixel! (Besides this, I had returned it to them with the original box, which they didn't send back to me)
So I called them last night and requested another repair. The representative asked me if they had charged my account for the shipping, and I answered truthfully that no, they had not charged me at all. I suppose that I am fortunate that they didn't, considering the other things they did. So now I am sending my Nexus One back two weeks after I returned it to them the first time, hoping that they will fix it properly, and without any argument.
HTC never charges you for return shipping. You only have to pay to ship it to them.
I am sorry you are having these troubles!
I successfully swapped my Nexus One due to a dead pixel within 3 days! I made a call on Day one at 11pm and by Day 3 at 8 am I had my replacement phone.
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HTC never charges you for return shipping. You only have to pay to ship it to them.
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That's a bit crap, in the UK they email you a pre-paid shipping label.
I live in the U.S.A., and they sent me a prepaid shipping label. I'm just ticked off because I sent it to them, argued with them for four days, and they didn't even fix it, and two weeks later I need to send it right back. Plus it cost me another Invisible Shield.
Swap method is always better, faster, and easier. Plus, you get a new phone. Who doesn't love that?
They said that they couldn't swap it because it was too far (a few weeks) the purchase date. Maybe the person I spoke to didn't know what she was talking about. That's sort of my impression of the support division of the company, though I know I'm probably having an unrepresentative bad experience.
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They said that they couldn't swap it because it was too far (a few weeks) the purchase date. .
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I think this is BS from HTC. I swapped my N1 after almost two months. They will put a hold on your credit card; if you can live with that the replacement is much faster than the repair.
I'll consider that if they don't fix it properly this time. I didn't want to swap it because of my engraving and the full-body invisible shield that I put on it, but if they don't fix it this time, I probably won't be willing to trust their repair department again.
I had much better customer service from Apple when I had my iPhone ..I'm getting really annoyed with HTC ...especialy with that multitouch issue..
I have a question. Did they release $28 after you got your 'repaired' phone?
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I had much better customer service from Apple when I had my iPhone ..I'm getting really annoyed with HTC ...especialy with that multitouch issue..
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I had a dead easy time with apple and my wife's 3G and her 3GS ... you walk in with the broken phone, they demand £150 (ish) for the repair which is always your fault. They then do an estimate and if its expensive (ie > £150) they turn round and say it's BER (beyond economical repair) and offer to sell you a new one. If it's a cheap fix (ie cracked glass) they repair it and pocket the £150.
Now that is customer service!
Other issues such as the 3G problem on the iPhone where it cascades from 3G to Edge to GRPS to No Service and the only way to get it back is to either power off or switch to airplane mode and back. Took it into two phone shops and then the Apple store in London and their solution? Turn off 3G.
Although their best to date is a macbook which I hardly ever use stopped charging. Rang up and they said bring it in to the Genius Bar in 2 weeks. I did, they then said it's warranty expired yesterday (13 days after I reported the fault) and refused to touch it. Demanded to see the manager said they would do me a favour and look at it for free as it was only 1 day outside warranty. They checked the battery and it had been charged 37 times in a year. The guy said this was quite heavy use and was a years worth and I would have to buy a new battery! Queue one massive kick off in the Apple store, resulting in them begrudgingly fitted a new battery!
Or the iMac 24" ATI I bought that crashed all the time, they gave me 3 units before I read on the internet that it was a software issue. I started running XP and voila ... sorted. Apple rolled out a fix quietly without telling anyone a month or so later.
Yes Apple support rocks!
All modern companies support sucks in some cases ... get used to it. Sell a million units and if you get 99% satisfaction you will get 10000 unhappy customers. Give them a platform to shout on and voila!
I bet not everyone gets Apple support like I do, some people probably can't believe how good they are.
Anyway, enough ranting, I wish google would fix the screen calibration issue although I only need to dab the power button and unlock it to fix mine.
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They said that they couldn't swap it because it was too far (a few weeks) the purchase date. Maybe the person I spoke to didn't know what she was talking about. That's sort of my impression of the support division of the company, though I know I'm probably having an unrepresentative bad experience.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Having worked in multiple call centers let me be the first to tell you that it's hard to find intelligence or common sense in them. I work in a call center for AT&T right now and I do work for the Vice President and Assistant Vice President because nobody else knows what they're doing. As soon as they realized that I had common sense and knowledge of technology they took me off of the phone, gave me a raise and converted me from Contractor to Employee. I asked my Director "Why do you let the managers hire people who are so ignorant" His reply was "I'm paying them $17/hr, I don't expect them to think. We have the information and tools set in place to think for them. If I wanted them to think then I would hire people with a higher intelligence and I would pay them more. Instead, I have people like you come up with tools and other things to think for them"
So this is why I hate when people say "I called T-Mobile and they said..." because that means nothing. You can get a different answer every time because most of them don't know the answer because your questions are above their level of intelligence. Now, I'm in no way saying that every person who works in a call center is an idiot. I'm saying that a large percentage of them do not understand anything about what they're troubleshooting.
I was reading a survey in P.C. Magazine about customers' ratings of the service and product quality from companies such as Apple, Toshiba, and Hewlett-Packard. They rated things such as the frequency with which hardware was found to be faulty soon after purchase, how easy it was to have it replaced, and other such topics. Apple did rank first overall, and Toshiba ranked second. This doesn't surprise me, since I have a ten year old Toshiba Tecra 8100 that still runs fine, though I've fixed the screen hinges.
H.T.C. was not in their listing, and I had never dealt with their support before. I replaced my X51v's screen myself after having it for three years and getting some water damage (I also replaced the backup battery later), and that's working fine now. I'm kind of nervous now -- I half expect my Nexus One to come back with real scratches on the screen, or more dead pixels, or some other problem that it didn't have before. After they already accused me of damaging it last time, I sort of wonder what they might damage to do with it this time -- something worse than sending it back unfixed.
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I have a question. Did they release $28 after you got your 'repaired' phone?
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Yes, they did; they didn't charge me any money.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Having worked in multiple call centers let me be the first to tell you that it's hard to find intelligence or common sense in them. I work in a call center for AT&T right now and I do work for the Vice President and Assistant Vice President because nobody else knows what they're doing. As soon as they realized that I had common sense and knowledge of technology they took me off of the phone, gave me a raise and converted me from Contractor to Employee. I asked my Director "Why do you let the managers hire people who are so ignorant" His reply was "I'm paying them $17/hr, I don't expect them to think. We have the information and tools set in place to think for them. If I wanted them to think then I would hire people with a higher intelligence and I would pay them more. Instead, I have people like you come up with tools and other things to think for them"
So this is why I hate when people say "I called T-Mobile and they said..." because that means nothing. You can get a different answer every time because most of them don't know the answer because your questions are above their level of intelligence. Now, I'm in no way saying that every person who works in a call center is an idiot. I'm saying that a large percentage of them do not understand anything about what they're troubleshooting.
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dwl, classic!! Are you also saying any one with great talking skills can get the job as customer rep too?
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Yes, they did; they didn't charge me any money.
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Thanks, buddy. I can let mine go to repairing.
Hope you get what you expect
I sent it back to them last Thursday, of course, and received a message on Monday saying that they had received it. Today, I received another message saying that they had completed their diagnostics, and guess what my option was? Pay for repair, just like last time! I sent a response asking why and called them, but all the morons in their customer service department could do was 'escalate' it, so I just sent a complaint to the Better Business Bureau.
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I had much better customer service from Apple when I had my iPhone ..I'm getting really annoyed with HTC ...especialy with that multitouch issue..
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I would be careful saying anything pro apple on this forum, lol.
I have been pretty lucky with both of my htc products so far. My N1 is great and so was my G1.
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I sent it back to them last Thursday, of course, and received a message on Monday saying that they had received it. Today, I received another message saying that they had completed their diagnostics, and guess what my option was? Pay for repair, just like last time! I sent a response asking why and called them, but all the morons in their customer service department could do was 'escalate' it, so I just sent a complaint to the Better Business Bureau.
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By chance did they answer your question? or at least tell you the results of the diagnostics and how much they charging?
Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance
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Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance
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Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.
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Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Are you suggesting that there can be gained some kind of profit from me(other that transporting expenses to the couriers)? No that's not the case if that is what you are implying; my guarantee makes all repair costs free.
So how would they gain from me?
I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?
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I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?
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probably yes, if its bought for less than a week.
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Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.
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You wont get one though..You'll get a new wheel
It doesn't even make sense to me that someone would expect a new car if the wheel failed..Even if it was a mile from the lot you bought it from.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.
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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.
"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!
I feel for you dude.... You buy a brand new device expecting it to work, not having to send it back and forth to fix a problem on a brand new product.
But things happen and personally I don't mind getting it fixed if it's guaranteed. At least it's still the one you bought and not a refurbished unit from someone else.
Of course you have the right to be angry. Anyone would after all that you've described.
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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.
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I sent it to Samsung. Samsung has a company here in Greece that fixes them. They send it there for repairs. Now they saw the condition my phone was in, and they made a poor diagnosis(In my view it was a hasty/irresponsible diagnosis in order to get rid of me) that it was a faulty battery. They didn't even bother to check my phone if it was ok after they "fixed" it as it turns out.
Now with Samsung that's the problem, they delegate and compartmentalize their company as much as it is required to shift responsibility and make you feel lost and frustrated.
I hate that kind of shadowy situation they have built around themselves so they won't have to admit "yes we don't give a **** about the consumer, we just want to sell", and that's why i decided to not take from them anymore.
+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!
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The employee of the eshop called them today and was firm on replacing the device, the problem is that they were firm themselves about NOT replacing it.
What can i do against a big company like them?
If they decide i don't get another phone what the hell can i do?
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+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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I bought it from a small electronics online shop here in Greece. They buy the phones from Germany and the guarantee is linked to the German Market. If all else fails i have to take my case there.
But they employee tells me that it's the company's policy(as well as many others besides Apple) that they don't replace devices, end of story.
So again, even though my guarantee is solid, the COMPANY is NOT.
So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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Nobody has made any talk about extra charges, that is covered by the guarantee.
If that was the case i might be convinced to move legally against them.
Its simple, cost of part and installing cheaper then replacement of whole phone then replace part. Logic no?
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This is not a Samsung specific issue all phone manufactures work like this. Next replacing the motherboard is more or less getting a new phone as the phone is roughly motherboard + screen and very little else.
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It might be different in other countries but i work for Ford in the uk and know alittle about the way guarantees and warranty work my note is on contract with 02 and to date i have had 3 new notes from 02 two because i scratched them and just said there was problems with the software on them. Also you have a 28 day no quibble returns policy in the u.k with electronic things. Also if ya good at blagging you can get anything of big companys i upgraded to a nexus in january and the software went into bootloop before i even had time to root it so i kicked off and this happened twice so ended up kicking off and telling them i wanted a note otherwise i was going to trading standards cos they werent fit for purpose and guess what i got a brand new note 3 months after an upgrade. I was always told shy kids get no sweets so try ya luck
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Interesting this .I myself have just taken in my note 3 ( I brought direct from Samsung) which is completely dead into a Samsung approved repair centre. They told me the phone needs to be sent away for a motherboard replacement which will take between 7-10 days. I am a little putout as to the time without my Note but I suppose at least I'll get it back fully functional.
Now last year I took my wife's Iphone into one of there Genius centres with a problem (dead phone again) and guess what we were given a nice new shiny replacement there and then.
They do say you only know how good a manufacture is when you need them most !
Think Samsung may need to up there game.
You pay top dollar or a phone it should come with top dollar service
We were out having dinner last night, and while using my wife's iPad 2 to check movie times, I realized that the home button was acting up (required extra presses to work). Stopped by the Apple store before the movie, and they replaced it with a brand new one in less than 10 minutes. Apparently, there were only 6 days left on the warranty (we were lucky).
Now, I'm thinking if any of the buttons stop working on my Note 10.1, my only option is to send it to Samsung, right? Has anyone have any experiences with Samsung warranty claims/repairs? Do we pay for shipping the tablet to them? How fast is the turn around time? How helpful do you think they would be, if I were to send my Note 10.1 with a broken power button 6 days before the warranty expires.
iPhone or iPad is not for me (I've had nothing but Android phones and tablets), but I'm jealous about Apple customer care and the ease of the warranty process through Apple stores.
iOS devices are known for that bad home button. I'm also sure your story would be quite different had you gone 6 days later. I can't say I've ever used Samsung warranty but seeing how we don't have any buttons we are constantly pressing, I wouldn't be too worried about it.
I will agree that when you have the coverage, being able to walk into an apple store and get things done right away is always a plus.
I just sent in my galaxy note for the usb issue, i sent it saturday and received it back a week later repIred.
They send in the uk anyway a special delivery bag to packaged it up which is pre paid.
It cost my 75 quid but then i had opened the unit up so expected that
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Total agree , Apple are good service & warranty compare to Samsung slow update & need send our device somewhere for service
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iOS devices are known for that bad home button. I'm also sure your story would be quite different had you gone 6 days later. I can't say I've ever used Samsung warranty but seeing how we don't have any buttons we are constantly pressing, I wouldn't be too worried about it.
I will agree that when you have the coverage, being able to walk into an apple store and get things done right away is always a plus.
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Actually, for everything I hate about Apple, there warranty is great. Back in my iPhone days (yes, I know, WTH was I thinking back then), my wife dropped hers in the toilet. She didn't tell me. She let it dry out and then when the phone kept turning on and off on its own, I went ahead and made an appointment at the Apple store. She was out of warranty by about a month and a half. Took it in, the employee took a look at it, noticed the water indicator marks were shown. He said normally I would have to pay full price for a new phone (this was a 3GS), but instead, went to the back, got me a new one and out the door I went! Paid nothing out of pocket other than picking up a new case for mine that night.
Its not the products of Apple I dislike, its the business model that they entertain.
Don't know about Samsung's warranty department here in the States, but hopefully its nothing like Asus! You want to talk about a abysmal service department, Asus should be at the top of how not to handle warranty and service repairs!
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We were out having dinner last night, and while using my wife's iPad 2 to check movie times, I realized that the home button was acting up (required extra presses to work). Stopped by the Apple store before the movie, and they replaced it with a brand new one in less than 10 minutes. Apparently, there were only 6 days left on the warranty (we were lucky).
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They pay roundtrip 2-day shipping for it to be repaired. They try for a five business day turn-around. If they don't have parts for the repair they'll replace the device.
Also, Samsung is starting to open retail stores in North America. Weirdly, the first one is in Metrotown Mall in Burnaby, BC, Canada (a suburb of Vancouver). I say weirdly because Canada doesn't get anywhere near the full line of Samsung products. They've also been opening Samsung mini-stores in Best Buys in the US.
If they go ahead with a full chain of Samsung stores across North America - there's a good chance they'll implement a 'drop in' service system similar to Apple's.
"Its not the products of Apple I dislike, its the business model that they entertain."
Precisely. Although I do object to the walled garden, as well.
Currently having my Galaxy Note (Phone) repaired and the process is:
1. Call customer service (Helpful and friendly)
2. They send pre-paid envelope in post
3. I send phone
4. They have phone repaired and returned within 10 days.
I too love the idea of walking into a physical store to get a same day replacement, but I too have heard other stories about the Apple customer service. For instance, it is my understanding that under EU law mobile phone manufacturers are supposed to offer a 2 year warranty at no extra cost to the customer. Prior to April this year Apple did not do this and have now been forced to honor their commitment. Before they were forced to do this in April, they were actively selling Apple Care to their customers in order to extend the 1 year warranty they were offering, even though customers were supposed to be covered for 2 years automatically.
So, yes, Apple have got it right in one sense with the physical stores and no quibble returns, but they still put profits before customers (and no I'm not naive enough to believe that Samsung is different, but I haven't found an instance of them blatantly fleece their customers to date).
The best solution for me is to buy products from reputable department stores such as John Lewis, who promise to price match for up to a month after purchase and offer a return policy that says that you can return a product at any point, and I quote:
"Condition of returns
It's important that returned items are in the best possible condition, so please take reasonable care of them and keep all packaging. We don't have a set time limit on returns, but if you change your mind about your purchase, it can make your return easier and quicker to administer if you bring the item back as soon as possible."
I just returned a tablet three months after I purchased it. No quibbles, full refund, and a customer for LIFE!!!
Get a store warranty like black tie from best buy and you can walk in and out easily. I have done this before with out a problem whether its apple or something else. Plus the screen can be broken and it still will be replaced.
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Here's my eexperience with Samsung, though it pertains to my $700 pc monitor.
Submitted an rma request, troubleshoot with cs, next thing you know they send me out an upgrade monitor t o exchange at the ups store. So there not one day I didnt have a monitor. Good cs.
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Yea it's great that you can walk into an Apple store and get a warranty replacement. The only downside is that when you walk out, you still have an Apple product.
LOL....:laugh:
I'd be jealous except for the fact iPad is a child's toy and SGN10.1 is an actual tool and adult can use to do work.
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I'd be jealous except for the fact iPad is a child's toy and SGN10.1 is an actual tool and adult can use to do work.
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What surprises me is that Apple owners don't get that. What surprises me even more is that Apple owners recommend their pads as a serious drawing tool. Huh?
Yes there is no doubt Apple support service is great two reasons for that they are an American company and thats expected second reason is their around 40 - 45% profit margins on the products
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What surprises me is that Apple owners don't get that. What surprises me even more is that Apple owners recommend their pads as a serious drawing tool. Huh?
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Obviously, without a Wacom digitizer, the drawing/inking is not comparable to the Note series (or any other device with a digitizer). However, I'm against the idea of the "iPad is a toy for children, and SGN10.1 is a tool for adults" cliche. Many places (e.g., schools, hospitals, etc.) use iPads for productivity and nobody is suffering from "this is just a toy, I wish I had one with a stylus to be more productive". Yes, SGN has its strengths, but dismissing the competition as "toy" won't get you far as reflected by their market share. If you take the digitizer away from SGN10.1 (i.e., make it a Tab2 so to speak), would that make it a "toy" as well?
At the end of the day, the apps are the reason for productivity (not the OS itself), and almost everything I have on my SGN10.1 (aside from the stylus-centric apps) also exist on my wife's iPad and she's never suffered from lack of productivity (she hasn't played 1 single game on her iPad except for Sudoku, by the way) while using her iPad at home or at work.
When we were discussing W8 tablets and the advantage of having MS Office before they were released, Barry had a great point that a good portion of iPad owners are high income professionals, and they never suffered from a lack of a "true" Office suite for the iPad. Does that mean that they only use it for playing games and updating FB status? Far from it.
I guess we are just open-minded people. I have a Windows8 desktop, a Macbook Pro and a SGN10.1, my wife has an iMac, a Macbook Pro and a Samsung Note II (which replaced a Nokia Windows phone), and my son uses his Nexus 7, my SGN10.1 and his mother's iPad interchangeably. If the device(s) fit our needs, we don't care who makes it or who loves/hates it.
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Yes there is no doubt Apple support service is great two reasons for that they are an American company and thats expected second reason is their around 40 - 45% profit margins on the products
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I highly doubt that Samsung is making anything less than that from the Note series (or Asus with the Transformer line for that matter). The only devices that are sold at or near cost are the ones backed by an ecosystem to pull customers in for future purchases (e.g., Kindles, Nook tablets, etc.).
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Obviously, without a Wacom digitizer, the drawing/inking is not comparable to the Note series (or any other device with a digitizer). However, I'm against the idea of the "iPad is a toy for children, and SGN10.1 is a tool for adults" cliche. Many places (e.g., schools, hospitals, etc.) use iPads for productivity and nobody is suffering from "this is just a toy, I wish I had one with a stylus to be more productive".
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IMO only, what makes the iPad less than a true productivity device is the hobbling by Apple. If it were more open, and had more features I would consider one. As it stands though, after thorough investigation, and using a friend's, I realized I would never be happy, even if it was jail broken. Apple has a long way to go to get my $. It is so widely used because of marketing and the fact that anyone can use it, even a child.
Again, this JMO.
Samsung do have some service centre plazas where you can get the products repaired whilst you wait, mainly in the bigger cities. With the growing popularity of Samsung more and more plazas will be opening throughout the UK.
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I would like to say first that I absolutely LOVE my Nexus 7 tablet. Having owned a couple of different Android tablets made by those other people (Samsung...even an iPad Mini), I can honestly say the N7 really is the best. With that being said, I would like to share my experience with them today, and I hope it helps others in being more informed about their decision to purchase in the future. Its kind of a long read, but you will be shocked at the end, so please see it through.
A week or so ago my tablet developed an issue where after waking it from standby I would have to toggle Airplane Mode on and off in order to access the internet. I was off work today so I called Google warranty about the issue. The gentleman I spoke with was very kind and, I believe, as helpful in the situation as he could be. After explaining the issue and running through some standard trouble shooting, the first technician I spoke with from Google concluded it was most likely a hardware issue and that someone from a different department (mind you, I was speaking to the warranty department already) would contact me via email in 24-48 hours.
After I hung up from him, I thought about it and something wasn't quite right. The warranty department should be able to generate a replacement or at the minimum an RMA right then, right? So I called back and asked to speak with a manager. I was transferred to a floor supervisor, explained everything that had transpired up until then, to which he promised to get to the bottom of the issue right then. He asked for my email address, which I provided, when he stated he could not find an order for a Nexus tablet. I proceeded to explain to him I purchased it from GameStop, I had the receipt with the box and date of purchase, when he abruptly cut me off to tell me he could not do anything about my warranty issue because it was bought from a third party. He explained I would have to go through the retailer or through Asus. Now, here is where my trouble with this begins. Is this not manufactured for, branded, and advertised as a GOOGLE Nexus 7 tablet...or is it brand, advertised, and sold as an Asus Nexus 7 tablet. Yes, I understand who actually manufactured it. But that is transparent. There are A LOT of products made by other manufacturers that are sold under a different brand name. In fact, there are actually quite few true "manufactures" in the world but they make and sell products daily under a different name. However, this floor supervisor was unwilling to provide me with any assistance at all. He did offer to connect me to Asus customer support.
Another hold later, and 20 something minutes into the call, I was connected to another very nice customer service rep from Asus. I again (third time) explained the issue and the steps already performed to remedy the situation. After speaking with him for a while, he agreed to issue an RMA so that one of there technicians could diagnose the problem and do a repair or replace. I asked at his point how long this process takes...TWO WEEKS. Mind you, I have only owned the tablet a total of exactly 7 weeks and 2 days. I told him that this was completely unacceptable. He then offered to upgrade my case to priority service. Again I asked for a time frame and was told this time...1-1/2 WEEKS, or 3 days faster. At this point I am furious. I asked if I could have a replacement sent out...NO. I asked if I could have one sent out with a hold on my credit card until my defective unit was received...NO. I asked if I could have a refund arranged...NO. I asked if he would be kind enough to contact GameStop to request an exchange be made...NO. MY ONLY OPTION ON A 7 WEEK OLD TABLET...A GOOGLE TABLET MIND YOU...WAS TO BE WITHOUT FOR 2 WEEKS! You have go to be kidding me! I sincerely thought Google was better than this.
I used the following analogy...you buy a brand new car. It has a warranty issue that needs fixed so you take it to the dealership at which point they say, "sorry but we cant fix it for 2 weeks" and leave you with no car. I honestly can not believe the customer service between these two companies is this poor. As well, I have had cell phones replaced by AT&T under warranty that CERTAINLY were not made by AT&T, yet Google does not share the same mindset although the tablet was clearly a Google product.
So, I write this as a warning for any of you that have purchased your tablet from GameStop, Best Buy, Staples, ect. what challenges you face should you ever need warranty service. And to those who did purchase off the Play Store exactly how Google is treating their customers. I love Google (a lot less now) but I will NEVER buy another Nexus/Google branded product again...not so much as rent a movie or buy a song from the play store. And I will take to any forum I can access to share my experience in an attempt to convince Google/Asus to improve their customer service. They have lost a customer and I implore you to share my experience with as many people as you can that may be considering a Google product or service in the future.
Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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/waaa?
You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
sigaiser said:
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
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danvee said:
For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
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Thanks for the link...I posted there as well. It is cruddy. I would
D have expected more from Google in a situation like this.
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You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
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I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
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Buying direct from Google won't help. When I had to have my Nexus phone replaced, under warranty, I called Google since I bought it on the play store. They gave me a number to Samsung(It was a Galaxy Nexus) and Samsung did exactly the same thing. I had to go to Wal-mart and buy a cheap flip phone to use for 2 weeks while Samsung replaced my 2 month old phone which I had bought from the Google Play Store.
It is definitely nice to go to an apple store and have a replacement in 10 minutes if you have a bad phone... I had an issue with my galaxy s4 and at&t didnt have any in stock to replace it with.... Bad experience.
I actually feel nothing is wrong with the warranty service options the OP mentioned.
It would be above average for the industry.
If I bought a premium car like Lexus then I would expect a nice loaner if my car needs works.
But if I paid for a Toyota, then it's up to the dealer ... a shuttle ride is nice enough.
I even bought my 2012N7 over ebay, haha. Worst case, I just call Asus.
Unless Google promises something and doesn't deliver ... otherwise, it's up to them (that's why I normally
talk nicely to the customer-service people).
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I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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But, I'm only good at smartass comments.
i had my nexus 4 RMA due to faulty screen and i had the most wonderful experience, the lady i spoke to gave me no trouble what so ever promptly sent me an email with the order replacement link, put the hold on my card and 2 days later brand new N4 at my door, i would actually prefer to order directly from them after that experience
Also had a good experience with the nexus 4, screen was super dim, Google sent me a new one and have me a shipping label to send my old one in the same box
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One of the reasons why I always buy from companies with excellent customer service.
Few examples..
Bought a Galaxy Nexus from Amazon and after 6months+ it developed a fault.. cant remember what it was. So me being me... its been 6months+ I contact Samsung because its been so long. They told me they can get it fixed within a week. I get it back and its worse then when i sent it. I tried again.. sent it, came back and still as bad. I contact samsung again and explain to them. They said they will contact me within a few days.
While waiting i thought what the heck... Contacted Amazon and explained Samsung has wasted my time and if possible would like a refund. They said ok right away and got my money back! Samsung contact me and I vented out to the manager/supervisor on the line and all he could say was thats great that you got a refund....
Bought a Nexus 4 direct from Google.. Again after 6months+ it starts over heating. Contact google and they said we can replace it for you no problem. They sent out a new one while i still had the faulty one.
I would pay more for a product just to have great customer service then to get it a little cheaper and have next to no customer service.
So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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@ sigaiser
I understand your frustration. I have an old Nexus 7, which I bought in the UK from PC World. It developed a fault where it would not charge. PC World referred me to ASUS, who ran through various ideas to fix it (most of which I had tried after internet forum searches), gave me a code and an RMA, and told me 7 to 10 days. It was picked up by the courier for next day delivery to Triage Services, who do ASUS repairs in the UK. After 4 weeks, it came back and still had exactly the same fault. (Later, I found that Triage had replaced the motherboard.) SO after another couple of days of trying to sort it out again, I rang again and got another RMA and an email telling me to book it in. I was also told that I should have been told "up to 30 days" not 7 to 10. The courier web site this time told me I'd have to pay for the return (different courier first time) though subsequently ASUS complaints told me that that was a courier error. Away it went again, and came back with the battery re-seated. It did not charge up, so off it went again. After another couple of weeks, making a total of 8 1/2 weeks, it came back with a new wall charger - supposedly that was no longer charging (even though when it left, it happily charged my Nexus 4). I HAD told them it was not that, as 3 different chargers would not charge The Nexus 7. It lasted that day, then refused to charge fully overnight, and charging to a lower % each night. All ASUS would offer was another RMA. :crying:
In the end, I threw myself on the mercy of the team at PC World, and asked if there was anything they could do - perhaps a discount on a different tablet. They had a chat, and gave me a new Nexus 7, this time with their "Whatever Happens" replacement insurance. Result. In future I think I will be getting my stuff from them with that guarantee.:laugh:
The current Nexus 7 charges up MUCH faster than the first one ever did, so either something had been changed, or the first was always faulty.
ASUS had been helpful, but they required THREE parts of the tablet replaced before they'd replace the whole thing. I had only had one so even though I'd lost it for more than 2 months out of the 12 month guarantee they would not consider either a replacement, or even extending the warranty for the 2 months I had been without.
Triage services, on the other hand, who supposedly did the repairs, I have no time for. First time round, they booked the tablet in to their workshop 5 days after they got it (thus showing ASUS that they were working on it faster than the truth). Then clearly they never actually tried it any of the three times before returning it.
joshyc5 said:
So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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No, I'm not mad I have to send it back to the manufacturer. I'm mad because that is the ONLY option to send it back. Google told me on the phone if I bought it direct from them, they would send out a replacement right then and there. So what's the difference? GameStop is an authorized retailer. It's not like it was a black market knock off from Amazon. And as far as Asus goes (who is the manufacturer yet not a reseller), they offer no way to have a replacement sent, even with a credit card hold. So the ONLY option is to go without and wait 2 weeks, or whatever the turnaround time ends up being, without the product you paid for. That's what makes me mad.
And maybe I'm missing something, but what I can't get over is the fact that it's made for Google and sold by Google, yet Google is not supporting products sold by third party retailers although it carries their name.
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I really don't see a 1-1.5 week wait as being that big of a deal, sure it would be nice to get it replaced with a new one but they do not have to offer that to you. The warranty doesn't say that they offer replacements at the first sign of an issue. Since you bought it from a 3rd party retailer I wouldn't expect Google to take care of it since it is an ASUS tablet. If you'd purchased it from the Play Store and they wouldn't help then that would be a problem.
They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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Lol, whatever. Easy to hide behind a screen name. You wouldn't say it to my face so why say it online?
Either way, moderators, just close this thread. Obviously no one has the intelligence to understand the point I was attempting to make so it does no one any good for it to remain open as its only going to turn ugly.
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Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
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Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
andybg40 said:
I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
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Its no surprise they are a failing company when that is how they treat loyal customers who have a genuine quality control issue. The support from HTC is disgusting. I'm glad to hear they have lost another customer due to their awful support.
I have had zero problems with their customer service or warranty. In fact they corrected a problem sprint created. Everyone has a different experience. Samsung and apple both treated me like ****. Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Well there are also customers that drop their phone and it breaks glass, scratches, dents, dings, starts malfunctioning, etc....and then they call HTC and say it is defective and not their fault. Unfortunately HTC has no way of knowing who is lying and who is not. If they exchanged phones for every customer that claimed defect, they would be exchanging phones that people broke left and right. Certain things shouldn't come loose or start to rattle and if that starts happening they will know it is a defect once they get enough cases. Unfortunately with glass, it is the easiest and most common thing broken on a phone, so doing warranty replacements for broken glass is rare. A screen protector and case do nothing for protecting the camera glass. Most people this has happened to are blaming excessive heat. So I'm assuming you had your phone on the charger over night and it may have overheated from the charger. It would be nice if HTC would at least make an effort to investigate and see if this is possibly happening.
I've only had one experience with HTC customer service, but they replaced the pink tint camera on my M7 for just the labor costs even though it was out of warranty and two years old. YMMV, I guess.
I had this problem as well. It's like talking to a wall with these guys. If you say we will replace your phone no matter what the problem,no questions asked, than you best live up it. When I called, I was bombarded with questions and told I had to pay for them to fix it.
I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable). But there was a chance I'd have to pay for repair even though there was obviously damage related to neglect. Also, I work remotely, so I have to have my phone for work and the only option was for me to send it in and wait for repair. Anyway, I was frustrated and ended up taking the phone to an AT&T service center and sweet talking them to swap it out for me.
My second experience with HTC was more recent and much better. I had my M8 in my shirt pocket and bent over to pick something up and it slipped out onto the concrete. The glass cracked and there was damage to the metal body. This time I used chat support and the rep couldn't have been better to deal with. I told him what happened, and he checked and said I was eligible for a replacement under the screen replacement policy. I told him that the metal had also been damaged, and he asked me to describe the damage, and while he wouldn't say with 100% certainty that there wouldn't be a problem swapping it out (understandable since I could have been under-reporting the level of damage) he said kind of off the record that if the damage was as I described, there wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, they put a $599 hold on my card + $29 for overnight shipping and the next day I had my new M8 and sent my damaged one back. About a week later the hold was removed from my card.
Anyway, I've had awful CS experiences at a lot of places and then later had great ones. I think it's really hit or miss with these large corporations.
Finally, I think HTC is attempting to shift their warranty policy to be more liberal in replacing/repairing physically damaged phones and honoring warranty for unlocked ones. It seems like this shift isn't going as smoothly as some of us consumers would like.
cstrife999 said:
Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Please expand on that
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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Yeah, too often it seem to depend on what CSR you get, and how their supervisor has been behaving that week.
I've twice had to get the trackpad on my MBP replaced, both times were my fault (too much eating and drinking at my desk :silly, and both times Apple fixed it no questions asked under the protection plan.
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Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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When you figure that out pls share the secret!
My wife has a freaking blackberry z10!!! That she doesn't want to give up because "everything is set up how she wants it".....
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I can tell you that Apple is undoubtedly the BEST in the service and support department! I just don't understand how these other companies can't see how simple it is and just do it the way Apple does! I mean, it makes me not want to buy another Samsung, LG or HTC product, because ALL of them I have had issues with at one point or another. The one time I had an issue with Apple I was so pissed off that I called in to customer care and spoke to a manager about the problem that I had at a store nearby. She saw that I had purchased about 10 Apple devices in the last 8 years or so, and gave me $150 credit for Apple accessories and also next day aired me a brand new 6 Plus because the Apple store would not replace it after I was having problems and I just got done spending almost a grand for the damn thing! These phones are expensive, and if these companies can't take care of us then go somewhere else because someone is willing to take care of you the right way! Just like this G4 I have that has marks on the display due to a screen coating issue at the plant. Because it;s an International model they won't touch it! WOW I understand that companies don't honor some warranties when you buy an imported phone, but when it's 3 days old and the phone just came out and it has defects that are 100% LG's fault, they should have just told me to send the damn thing in and they would fix it, now they lost my business! That just cost them quite a bit considering I buy EVERY damn flagship that comes out! (almost) They don't care though.... -END OF RANT-
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I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable).
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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I wasn't blaming the person. There was already a thread on XDA aboout the issue, but I imagine CS reps are discouraged from acknowledging internet speculation. I was frustrated with the system that was going to make me send my phone in for repair rather than them sending me a new one (with a CC hold, obviously) and then me sending the defective one back. I guess it wasn't clear in my post, but I use this phone for work and didn't have a backup.
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Haha, you should. It's exactly as you say it is to the company "just speculation", companies always use bull**** like "only vocal minority" to deceive others. So they rather keep it quiet and ignore forums like this on purpose
I owned a beautiful metallic red HTC One m7 untill recently. It was rooted + BL unlocked (not S-off) since day1 and never ran stock rom. I started noticing all the pictures were out of focus and that camera was stuck in macro mode. I took it back to shop for warranty (it was 1y 8 months old) and they sent it back to HTC for repair. Bootloader showed Relock and it was on an old stock rom nandroid that I found from internet
Almost 3 weeks later it was back, with new camera that was excellent again. They updated to latest Lollipop rom even, with BL still in relock. However they messed up upper speaker grill as the metal was no longer flush with body (stuck out enough to be clearly felt by finger when swiping on screen). I took it back to shop, complained and it got sent away again.
Another 2,5 weeks go by and I get the phone back. This time HTC completely changed the body and screen. It was like having a brand new One M7 in beautiful red. It had still same motherboard and still relock BL. However.... they forgot to install/connect the headset speaker.. so I had no sound when calling someone >_>. Back to shop, complain, explain and return the phone..
So a week later I got the phone back. Except I didnt get the phone back. What I got back was a 32GB M9 in gunmetal grey. I am both happy to have a proper upgrade and for free, a little sad to see my lovely M7 taken from me and quite disappointed in the QC of HTC repair centres.