Galaxy Note to Work on T-Mobile USA by Year's END!! - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

I just came across this article and for anyone stuck on AT&T or an AT&T's prepaid MVNO here is proof we might not need to suffer that much longer! Keep in mind the iPhone has the same HSPA bands as our Galaxy Note, so for our sake just replace any reference to the iPhone with the Galaxy Note and you will get the picture.
A bunch of my friends have T-Mobile faux-4G and it blows my AT&T 3G out of the water for speed. Plus, they have very attractive prepaid plans.
I can't wait!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mobile-HSPA-network-to-support-the-iPhone-by-year-end_id29897

That's reassuring. Plus the possibility that devs will be able to get 1700 working on the radio by using a T mobile modem?
I'm about ready to cancel my Sprint and by the int'l Note. But I'm just a bit learry about being locked into att, as some say it's not great in my area (SC). It would great to use both ST (both att and t mob) as well as t mob plans.
Should I take the plunge, or get the pentaband Gnexus?
I'll also be new to the prepaid game and leary about porting my number. I read it might be easy to port to GV? I guess we loose MMS, but google is working on it? Or is it easier to just port to ST this month... then t mobile next month?
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akenis said:
That's reassuring. Plus the possibility that devs will be able to get 1700 working on the radio by using a T mobile modem?
I'm about ready to cancel my Sprint and by the int'l Note. But I'm just a bit learry about being locked into att, as some say it's not great in my area (SC). It would great to use both ST (both att and t mob) as well as t mob plans.
Should I take the plunge, or get the pentaband Gnexus?
I'll also be new to the prepaid game and leary about porting my number. I read it might be easy to port to GV? I guess we loose MMS, but google is working on it? Or is it easier to just port to ST this month... then t mobile next month?
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I made the move from Sprint to T-Mobile back in March. I'm holding out for getting this working on T-Mobile's bands but if not, I'll just switch to ST when this plan runs out in a few weeks.
You can contact T-Mobile to ask about porting your # from Sprint, should be fine as long as you're up to date with Sprint.
Since the 30$ plan I'm on only includes 100mins, I use GV in conjunction with sipdroid/Pbxes.org for sip voip data calls.
MMS is not available with GV - yet.
I use my GV # for public and my actual T-Mobile # only my SO has.
I would suggest to you that you just order a ST prepaid 45$/mo SIM, though. You'll be limited to 2gb/mo but will have HSPA+ connectivity and unlimited minutes. You also won't then need to use a GV # unless you want to.
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Man I can't wait this is great news... By then I will have the note2 and hspa+....woohoo
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akenis said:
That's reassuring. Plus the possibility that devs will be able to get 1700 working on the radio by using a T mobile modem?
I'm about ready to cancel my Sprint and by the int'l Note. But I'm just a bit learry about being locked into att, as some say it's not great in my area (SC). It would great to use both ST (both att and t mob) as well as t mob plans.
Should I take the plunge, or get the pentaband Gnexus?
I'll also be new to the prepaid game and leary about porting my number. I read it might be easy to port to GV? I guess we loose MMS, but google is working on it? Or is it easier to just port to ST this month... then t mobile next month?
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Yea, that 1700mhz thread has been going strong. Hopefully one way or another we can have the option to use one or the other.
I ported twice in the past 2/3 years from T-Mobile->Page Plus (Verizon MVNO) -> Straight Talk and the most annoying port was by far the ST one. It literally took me 3 weeks and their CS is terrible!
I was on HF complaining about it here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1750795-50-Nokia-e71-activation-problems
I have had AT&T here since January and I have enjoyed the phone coverage because I get service indoors better than I did with T-Mobile (was with them for 6 years) but I enjoy T-Mobile's 3.5G speeds (much faster than AT&T 3G here) I guess it will come down to timing/pricing plans/my needs.
But choices are always good! *Fingers Crossed*

I was on a T-Mobile prepaid for a while and then I got the Note and wanted to be able to actually use it so I switched to Straight Talk and actually I had no problem with porting my number. I had a hold up on entering the account PIN basically because I forgot what I made it, but other than that once I figured out what it was they were able to have my number ported in a few hours.

Lack of international phone support was one of the biggest reason for me switching from Tmobile to AT&T after being their customer for almost 10 years. It seems like out of the three major carriers, Tmobile has the worst phone selection and Tmobile subscribers are stuck with this due to their weird 3G/4G bands.

duowing said:
I was on a T-Mobile prepaid for a while and then I got the Note and wanted to be able to actually use it so I switched to Straight Talk and actually I had no problem with porting my number. I had a hold up on entering the account PIN basically because I forgot what I made it, but other than that once I figured out what it was they were able to have my number ported in a few hours.
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I'm not surprised for every story like mine that there would be 10 that went just fine.
But, I had to get 3 sims sent to me and every time they told me the same thing "you need a new sim card" even though I was already on my third. I had to go up two levels before I got someone who could fix it and by then it was 3 weeks later. Needless to say, I wouldn't recommend ST to a friend merely because of that whole fiasco.

From the horse's mouth...
"As part of the company’s network modernization effort, T-Mobile also plans to launch 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900 MHz band in a large number of markets by the end of the year. Network modernization trials have shown up to a 33 percent increase in HSPA+ data speeds as well as improved in-building coverage. Rolling out 4G HSPA+ services in the 1900 MHz band will also provide customers with the ability to use a broader range of devices, including the iPhone, on T-Mobile’s 4G network."
I wouldn't get too excited just yet. They don't seem to be saying what a 'large number of markets' means. It certainly doesn't mean their entire network by the looks of things.

Yeah, who knows Tmobile may already have a GNote or GS3 by then, making this whole thing somewhat moot.

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Yeah, who knows Tmobile may already have a GNote or GS3 by then, making this whole thing somewhat moot.
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We have already seen a tmobile gnote. Was in the news a week or two ago. Nothing official of course, but seems like they'll have it soon. I bet they are just waiting for ICS to get wrapped up before release.

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We have already seen a tmobile gnote. Was in the news a week or two ago. Nothing official of course, but seems like they'll have it soon. I bet they are just waiting for ICS to get wrapped up before release.
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Will the posibillity of a 1700 MHZ radio for us (for use on tmobile) be increased when the note comes to tmobile?
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Will the posibillity of a 1700 MHZ radio for us (for use on tmobile) be increased when the note comes to tmobile?
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Good question. I'm not sure if it would be transferable, though to be honest there are some very smart people here, so I would bet that it's possible.
I wonder if they will go with the Exynos or the Snapdragon and if they might upgrade either of them i.e. Exynos Quad or Snapdragon S4, that would be sweeeet!

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I use GV in conjunction with sipdroid/Pbxes.org for sip voip data calls.
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I'm curious about how your are doing this and how well it works. I use to use Gizmo5 but after Google bought them I stopped using SIP. I currently use Skype, I did not like the delay I was experiencing with GrooveIP. I assume GV forwards calls to Pbxes.org and Sipdroid routes out going calls to Pbxes.org.
Are you on the free plan? Do I read correctly, it's 2000 minutes of bandwidth and 60 outbound?

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Will the posibillity of a 1700 MHZ radio for us (for use on tmobile) be increased when the note comes to tmobile?
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Judging by the NFC chip on the supposed T-Mobile Note, it's most likely the i717 with different modem software, so it won't really help N7000 users.

gedster314 said:
I'm curious about how your are doing this and how well it works. I use to use Gizmo5 but after Google bought them I stopped using SIP. I currently use Skype, I did not like the delay I was experiencing with GrooveIP. I assume GV forwards calls to Pbxes.org and Sipdroid routes out going calls to Pbxes.org.
Are you on the free plan? Do I read correctly, it's 2000 minutes of bandwidth and 60 outbound?
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Works well enough, calls auto kill upon 60mins. I feel like I use more than 2k a month but I'm not sure. Yes, I'm on the free plan.
Calls are routed from my GV/Google Talk to Pbxes.org, sipdroid is the client I use to connect. Requires me to be logged into Google Talk and online.
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UN-Friggin-Locked Baby!

Confirmed! I got a code from unlockadic on EBay and now have my Vibrant on ATT! FU TMobile!
Could you not have just bought a captivate?
Sure, but wanted a Vibrant and got one used much cheaper. Plus, I don't have a contract and don't want to have one.
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Could you not have just bought a captivate?
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Yeah I am confused, what is the benefit of having a vibrant on AT&T as opposed to just getting a captivate? Aren't you basically running the same phone but without 3G?
We're all happy for you, not sure why though.
Plus, I need to use it out of the country and att wouldn't unlock the Captivate for 10 months, even if bought at full price. What do you mean no 3g? I am using 3g on it no prob.
Being that there have been several people wanting to unlock it without success, I figured I would let everyone know that this source is confirmed to work. If you aren't concerned, why bother posting that you don't care?
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Plus, I need to use it out of the country and att wouldn't unlock the Captivate for 10 months, even if bought at full price. What do you mean no 3g? I am using 3g on it no prob.
Being that there have been several people wanting to unlock it without success, I figured I would let everyone know that this source is confirmed to work. If you aren't concerned, why bother posting that you don't care?
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Really? That is interesting I have always been told that the tmo and AT&T 3G networks weren't compatible, and my unlocked mytouch has no 3G access.
Edit; It isn't that I didn't care I was just confused at the benefit of doing it considering the availability of nearly the same device on the network you are using it on.
maybe you should give Simple Mobile a try since it's unlocked. $60 a month for unlimited everything, no contract. An additional $10 gets you international calling. Sorta like Boost Mobile, except you supply your own unlocked GSM phone. There's a one time $12.99 fee to get their SIM.
I went this route with my daughter as I was able to get her a cheap used slider phone for practically nothing.
And the reason why this worked for him is the Vibrant supports the UMTS1900 band that AT&T uses. One of the rare T-Mobile phones that does.
I am confused how you are using 3G? ATT uses 850mhz band for their 3G and the Vibrant only is able to use 3G on either 1700mhz or 2100mhz. Am I missing something here?
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Yep, 3g is working. The places I will be spending time in out of the USA don't have many options for service. Basically I buy prepaid sims and don't use data.
I have been with ATT so long that I still have the $15/mo unlimted data. Which is low enough to warrant leaving the account on while I am out of the country.
So to recap, ATT would not let me unlock the Captivate for 10 months even if I bought it outright. (I spent a long time talking to them to find this out as I was about to purchase a Captivate)
I do not want to get into a new contract
I need to use it out of the country.
I got a Vibrant used at a good deal.
That Simple Mobile looks like a good deal! If I didn't have the $15/mo unlimited data now, I would give them a shot.
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I am confused how you are using 3G? ATT uses 850mhz band for their 3G and the Vibrant only is able to use 3G on either 1700mhz or 2100mhz. Am I missing something here?
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I don't know but it is working. I have crappy service at my house (for all carriers) and it goes back and forth between "3G" and "E". When I have a descent signal, it sure seems pretty snappy so I believe it is 3G. I will try a speed test when I am in a good signal location. Aren't the Captivate and Vibrant the same hardware wise? Wouldn't it make sense that it would work with ATT 3G if that is the case?
They area similar hardware but the radios are carrier specific. I am pretty sure it won't work on 3G on ATT for the same reason the iPhone doesn't work on T-Mo's 3G. You must be seeing some sort of glitch on your phone. Definitely try a speed test while you are on 3G and let us know!
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I had to take a drive to test. Solid 5 bars, 3G indicator and tested on DSL reports and mobilespeedtest.com, both gave same numbers 1127kbps.
Get the speedtest.com app in the market.that is a more reliable speed test app.
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I see speedtest by xtreme labs, speedtest.net speed test, and mordax speedtest. No speedtest.com app shows up.
techspy said:
I see speedtest by xtreme labs, speedtest.net speed test, and mordax speedtest. No speedtest.com app shows up.
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speedtest.net
My bad I meant speedtest.net
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Got it. I will test tomorrow and post the results.
I am confused about the Vibrant's 3G capabilities on ATT network as well...
When I had my Nokia N95 unlocked it didn't work on TMO's 3G but did on ATT's network. The same deal with iPhones, they won't work on TMO's 3G and limited to EDGE.
Well, I will have TMO unlock my Vibrant and pop my blackberry's ATT card in to see what's the deal.
You should of got an iphone... Lol.
Good luck with working it all out!
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Nice! 4G coming to Canada, confirmed for Wind and Huwei

Wind Mobile successfully tests LTE and HD Voice
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/02/03/wind-mobile-successfully-tests-lte-and-hd-voice/
that means even if we are on the 3G SNS, we can still gain the benefit of a faster network for Video chats
...oh they also rumored Rogers and Telus are planing to do the same
But the sns does not use Lte so would it still gain from the added speed of lte 4g?
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Only if they are still in business on 2 months.
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joerome said:
Only if they are still in business on 2 months.
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which party are you referring to?
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which party are you referring to?
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Wind Mobile
why would they not be?
they wouldn't be spending all the force to help the Canadian consumers, out of the sinister Rogers & Bell, if that was the case.
also they wouldn't spend on 4G upgrades, and get 4G ready cell phones
either way, they will continue to be in business in one way or another
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why would they not be?
they wouldn't be spending all the force to help the Canadian consumers, out of the sinister Rogers & Bell, if that was the case.
also they wouldn't spend on 4G upgrades, and get 4G ready cell phones
either way, they will continue to be in business in one way or another
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I hope so, the new guys are the ones briniging lower prices and unlimited to Canada if we lose one then the ladscape changes drastically. I'm the sure the government will do something, it is their mess to clean up now anyway.
that's exactly why the half government is giving them the green pass, yet the corrupt at CRTC wants to favor Bell + Rogers, basically they want Wind + MobilityCity out of the picture
they have no legal grounds against MobilityCity, because it's Canadian owned
anyways it's on the news, it's already announced that Wind will be on business as usual, as the gov already went ahead with the changes to allow small companies with less than 20% market share to operate in Canada even if it's foreign owned
it's all over Google news
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T-Mobile SGSII

hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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Havent heard of anything for tmobile, just sprint/bell and possibly att lte sgs2.
Juls317 said:
hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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The Hercules is a variant of the U.S. market Infuse with a dual-core TI SoC. What other features it has haven't been confirmed. It's due out in September. T-Mobile won't be getting a version of the SGS2.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/17/exclusive-samsung-hercules-t-mobile-dual-core-infuse-4g/
would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.
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You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.
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Just got SGS2, it is connected to t-mobile usa, and it does only get EDGE speeds, and no HSPA+.
I can still keep it for trying out stuff for a bit, and would install any custom mods to try. If won't work, I may want to return it.
Is Wind Canada the only one with HSPA+ which is an option here?
There is no way to add only that support on top of a stock android?
The other feature that's needed to make it an excellent offering it T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling.
Any suggestions?
Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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I don't see AT&T being quite more expensive unless you really need the unlimited minutes. Otherwise you could get the medianet plan since the S2 isn't detected as a smartphone, which will solve your data problem for overages.
On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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There is an unlimited non smartphone data plan in att for just $15 and many of us are on that plan.
We do get hspa+ speeds on this plan. Pretty good deal compared to tmobile.
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I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
Thanks.
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I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
Thanks.
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T-mobile uses 1700 and 2100, not 900 and 2100.
That would explain it.
Rrr, guess i missed the same point about tmobile's bands. There was a list of the 4 freauencies and no distinction of which one is for voice, data etc.
So running a speed test using AnTuTu benchmark clearly shows sgsii is a great pick performance wise as it is dominating the charts. Though that app lack a distinction for original cpu speeds. I may overclock it if i get time as its a fun game, thouhgh not right now.
Data plan wise, on att usa, you are on $15 for non smartphone. The its ar their mercy, and they could identify sgsii as smartphone anytime in which case we'd loose that excellent option, right?
Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
Phone plan wise att family starts at $69 for 700 min for two lines, and they also got 550 min unadvertized for $10 less. This is still $10 above t mobile base for family at $49, yet no big deal if att data is cheaper at $15 with the mentioned 'non smartphone' option.
With att data on hspa+, you vuys easily use the mobile access point without limitations? Have anyone tried vpning and working on that, remote desktop to work machine for a significant time, full working day, etc?
With my att test sim, hspa+ downloads are fine, anywhere from 1.5 to 6 mbits, uploads sometimes were slow around 300
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... uploads were around 300 kbit.
Will test it some more today and tomorrow from more locations in the area.
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arntgur said:
Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
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To save you and everyone else the trouble, as of now:
- There is no AT&T phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network
- There is no T-Mobile phone that supports HSPA+ on AT&T's network
- There is no unbranded phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile and AT&T, you have to pick one or the other. The SGS2 does not support, and most likely will never support, T-Mobile's funky AWS bands.
The Hercules is rumored to have AT&T's bands. So was the G2X and it didn't.
Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
Have talked to AT&T support, and they confirmed that data plans for non smartphones begin at $10. *And that sgsii does not show as anything in their systems now neither a smartphone nor a non-smartphone. *And that it is correct that they can't guarantee anything about not identifying it as a smartphone in future.
So the best chance of the $15 data for non smartphones to last is if we get lucky enough that when they do launch the us AT&T version of sgsii, then the international one will be left out.
I am not exactly clear why the $15 non smartphone plan is needed over the $10 one. *Though, cant test too much with my AT&T temp sim, as they didn't want to change the plan the store gave me due to being on a trial period.
Still got today to try att sim out and can return with no fees, so will call or step by the store and check if that would be possible. *One challenge is that they already saw the phone and got excited, and listed it as a smartphone plan. * ..., we'll see how it goes...
Then I am also reading that AT&T talks about a dual LTE/HSPA+ support, yet that lte may take time to be battery friendly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330&page=2). *
So possibly waiting for LTE to mature is not practical, in which case maybe no point in waiting for AT&T us version of sgsii which may only add LTE.
Coming from tmobile hspa+ usage since nov 2010, now when testing AT&T, it is more influenced from during the day traffic and speeds are slower vs faster speeds at less conventional hours. *Also seeing some sporadic speed tests issues coming from another device using the wifi hotspot - usually the upload, sometimes download too is near zero speed. *While most speed tests are decent. *Then have not seen any of that on tmobile.
One issue making me consider moving to AT&T is that tmobiles speeds in my new place are very bad for hspa+ if it at all it gets an*hspa signal. *Used to never need wifi and get consistent 4-6 mbits downloads ..., now getting even 1 from tmobile is a challenge.
Then, would like fast Internet when traveling overseas. *And tmobiles phone worked well last time with fast speeds. * Then I have seen some mentioning that tmobiles bands could be better for world traveling than AT&T, is that so?
(For instance*http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=4d1bbd0f46632e8d&hl=en has:
I can only say I use T-Mobile version and it IS working. I don't have AT&T one, can say nothing about it. Reason I have in mind while selecting model - in the most of the world T-Mobile version will have better coverage.
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arntgur said:
Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
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- The $10 plan requires an unlimited messaging plan. The $15 plan is a stand-alone.
- The carrier versions of the SGS2 will have different model numbers and a different series of IMEI codes so I doubt that would effect the international SGS2 in AT&T's database.
- Our SGS2 won't support LTE. But it's going to take AT&T at least a year and a half to get any meaningful LTE penetration.
- I came from T-Mobile. AT&T's HSPA+ clocks a lot slower than T-Mobile's and isn't as widely available. For some reason though, things like video buffer less for me even though the speeds clock slower.
- AT&T is far better for international travel. They have roaming data plans you can pre-purchase that are less than 1/4 of what T-Mobile charges. Also, because the SGS2 is unlocked, you can pick up a SIM locally if you want to.
I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...
jasonleb1 said:
I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...
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No offense, but they're also the smallest carrier and are in the process of going away. I'm guessing they're getting an Infuse variant instead because Samsung's got the production capacity and probably cut them a deal.

T-Mobile / Nexus 4

Hi all.
I'm currently a Verizon customer and I hate the fact that their network is locked down because it's tied to CMDA. I like the idea of buying unlocked phones and popping in a SIM. Now that Google is selling unlocked Nexus phones at a ridiculously low price, I'm tempted to switch.
What I do like about Verizon's network is the quality. I've only been on at&t and Verizon and I can say that Verizon has a much better network than them in my experience. I'm also in a solid LTE area with grandfathered unlimited data.
Are there any people out there that have experienced both Verizon and T-mobiles networks? I know comparisons will vary from location to location - I'm in San Diego. Any advice on whether or not I should switch? I'd hate to switch only to learn that the network stinks and then lose my unlimited data when I go back to Verizon.
Thanks!
There will likely be a "cool off" period with the Nexus 4 as there was with the Galaxy Nexus, meaning you could get your money back after 2 weeks (or 30 days, I can't remember now). That's under the assumption you bought from the Play Store.
Then you could get the T-Mobile Prepaid $30 plan and test out T-Mobile's network for however long you have to return the Nexus 4. You'd just keep your Verizon line open while you are experimenting with T-Mobile.
The worse that you'd lose is a month's of prepaid service and maybe some repacking fees. The best is you'd be happy with T-Mobile and lower your monthly bill. Oh and there are plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan for free and you could turn around and sell your Verizon phone.
That's what I did with the Galaxy Nexus and I was able to keep my number while being under contract (there's a Google Voice trick) . Verizon's LTE is faster than T-Mobile's HSPA but it's definitely suitable for my needs. I happen to think LTE is more than what average users really require.
CaptainStrange said:
There will likely be a "cool off" period with the Nexus 4 as there was with the Galaxy Nexus, meaning you could get your money back after 2 weeks (or 30 days, I can't remember now). That's under the assumption you bought from the Play Store.
Then you could get the T-Mobile Prepaid $30 plan and test out T-Mobile's network for however long you have to return the Nexus 4. You'd just keep your Verizon line open while you are experimenting with T-Mobile.
The worse that you'd lose is a month's of prepaid service and maybe some repacking fees. The best is you'd be happy with T-Mobile and lower your monthly bill. Oh and there are plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan for free and you could turn around and sell your Verizon phone.
That's what I did with the Galaxy Nexus and I was able to keep my number while being under contract (there's a Google Voice trick) . Verizon's LTE is faster than T-Mobile's HSPA but it's definitely suitable for my needs. I happen to think LTE is more than what average users really require.
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Thanks for the input! That's a great idea.
What do you mean by "plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan"?
I was also thinking about porting my number to google voice, but I realize I'd be losing MMS.
How would you compare Verizon and T-mobile in terms of building penetration and service in congested areas?
skinien said:
Thanks for the input! That's a great idea.
What do you mean by "plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan"?
I was also thinking about porting my number to google voice, but I realize I'd be losing MMS.
How would you compare Verizon and T-mobile in terms of building penetration and service in congested areas?
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I would double check if the Play Store will allow returns for the LG Nexus 4, although I wouldn't see why not. I can't look up the site at the moment.
I was assuming that you are still in a contract. If you are, you can let someone assume your contract. It's called an assumption of liability and people will snatch up a contract that has unlimited data, especially with Verizon.
As far as building penetration, I don't notice much difference at all. I get better reception at my job and that is a 5 story building.
I think that the higher frequencies can become problematic if you are far from the tower, if there are many people using the same tower, the weather, etc. I don't believe in saying T-Mobile has bad building reception because it uses higher frequencies. But, it does play a factor.
You can also go prepaid on atts network. There are a bunch of mnvos, most notably straight talk.
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jordanishere said:
You can also go prepaid on atts network. There are a bunch of mnvos, most notably straight talk.
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Thanks. I'm going to try t-mobile's first. Their HSPA+ speeds are great according to this:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405597,00.asp
^ And according to me
I'm on a T-Mobile mnvo and I get the same speeds as I did on their network, with their data gateway.
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Id be interested in your granfathered unlimited data plan with verizon.
Verizon
I'd say stick to Verizon. They have more cell towers and what not so reception is very good. Also, they had a better selection of phones in my opinion.
I just switched to T-Mobile from Sprint. I have an original Xoom on Verizon. T-Mobile has excellent voice coverage and pretty good data. If you are going to be traveling out of the US (which I do). T-Mobile is the way to go. It is hard to beat Verizon's coverage and speed domestically. You can't go wrong with either. I had a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint and it was a bad experience. Phone was great, but the network was horrible. My phone drained in about 2 hours when not on Wi-Fi. Hope this helps.
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noesilva said:
Id be interested in your granfathered unlimited data plan with verizon.
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Do you know how this works? I've never heard of the ability to do hand off a contract until this thread.
skinien said:
Do you know how this works? I've never heard of the ability to do hand off a contract until this thread.
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You call Verizon Wireless assumption of liability department at 1-888-832-4540. You give them the first and last name of the person taking over the contract. Also, make sure you get your phone number ported to Google Voice beforehand. If you have questions about porting to Google Voice under contract see this thread:
https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/779321
CaptainStrange said:
You call Verizon Wireless assumption of liability department at 1-888-832-4540. You give them the first and last name of the person taking over the contract. Also, make sure you get your phone number ported to Google Voice beforehand. If you have questions about porting to Google Voice under contract see this thread:
https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/779321
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Thanks. I was thinking about porting to voice but don't want to deal with MMS not working.
To be honest I just got switched from Verizon to t-mobile and though Verizon has more coverage T-Mobile network is still very good at least in Ohio, data isn't as fast as LTE but that's a given. Still HSPA+ is still quite fast.
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skinien said:
Hi all.
I'm currently a Verizon customer and I hate the fact that their network is locked down because it's tied to CMDA. I like the idea of buying unlocked phones and popping in a SIM. Now that Google is selling unlocked Nexus phones at a ridiculously low price, I'm tempted to switch.
What I do like about Verizon's network is the quality. I've only been on at&t and Verizon and I can say that Verizon has a much better network than them in my experience. I'm also in a solid LTE area with grandfathered unlimited data.
Are there any people out there that have experienced both Verizon and T-mobiles networks? I know comparisons will vary from location to location - I'm in San Diego. Any advice on whether or not I should switch? I'd hate to switch only to learn that the network stinks and then lose my unlimited data when I go back to Verizon.
Thanks!
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I have several T-mobile phones, and my husband has a T-mobile phone and a Verizon phone. He's says there's really no difference in speed or coverage (we live in Jersey City, NJ....And to those of you that would like to dispute this claim...Note: this is my experience and opinion and I'm entitled to it. Thank you.)
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so I really want to get the Nexus 4, only thing is I heard that straight talk doesn't let you stream audio or video on their unlimited plan. Is this true? What other options are there?
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ahhlix said:
so I really want to get the Nexus 4, only thing is I heard that straight talk doesn't let you stream audio or video on their unlimited plan. Is this true? What other options are there?
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Look at T Mobile and AT&T. I'm on AT&T, I don't use cellular data but use WIFI hotspots instead; however, AT&T has added a lot of data options. I'm not sure that I'd be willing to spend a lot of money for streaming music or video via cellular since cellular data is priced so high, but to each their own. Here's a link to a comparison of 5 AT&T MVNOs that was updated this summer. http: //www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/09/five-at-mvnos-compared.html T-Mobile has a new MVNO named Solavei that you might want to check out, too.
mke1973 said:
Look at T Mobile and AT&T. I'm on AT&T, I don't use cellular data but use WIFI hotspots instead; however, AT&T has added a lot of data options. I'm not sure that I'd be willing to spend a lot of money for streaming music or video via cellular since cellular data is priced so high, but to each their own. Here's a link to a comparison of 5 AT&T MVNOs that was updated this summer. http: //www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/09/five-at-mvnos-compared.html T-Mobile has a new MVNO named Solavei that you might want to check out, too.
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Thanks man, this helps a lot
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ahhlix said:
so I really want to get the Nexus 4, only thing is I heard that straight talk doesn't let you stream audio or video on their unlimited plan. Is this true? What other options are there?
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I have a SIM from StraightTalk (it's the AT&T one) and I have had no problem streaming audio (with Pandora or Google Music) or Video from Netflix (haven't tried anything else other than Youtube and that works too). I pay under $45 a month for unlimited everything. I can even tether my laptop no problem (was hitting speeds of around 10Mbs down). This is on my HTC One X, but it shouldn't make a difference no matter what the device.
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I have a SIM from StraightTalk (it's the AT&T one) and I have had no problem streaming audio (with Pandora or Google Music) or Video from Netflix (haven't tried anything else other than Youtube and that works too). I pay under $45 a month for unlimited everything. I can even tether my laptop no problem (was hitting speeds of around 10Mbs down). This is on my HTC One X, but it shouldn't make a difference no matter what the device.
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Thanks man, that's good to know
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I've used Straight Talk. Great speeds and all... But they shut down my account because of streaming video. Luckily I was able to change to Monthly4G fast enough to reclaim my old number!
ackliph said:
I've used Straight Talk. Great speeds and all... But they shut down my account because of streaming video. Luckily I was able to change to Monthly4G fast enough to reclaim my old number!
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well, I was looking into the $50 plan that T-Mobile offers but they say that the first 100mb are 4g speeds and that the rest are 3g I guess. Does anyone have this plan ? if so, what are those speeds like ?
There's a $30 plan with 5gb of 4g before they throttle, unlimited text, and 100 minutes of talk time.
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There's a $30 plan with 5gb of 4g before they throttle, unlimited text, and 100 minutes of talk time.
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Though that sounds like a good deal, I can't deal with 100 minutes. I could use Groove IP but that is too much of a hassle, wouldn't you agree?
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ahhlix said:
Though that sounds like a good deal, I can't deal with 100 minutes. I could use Groove IP but that is too much of a hassle, wouldn't you agree?
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I'm looking at this plan too. If you could get away with Groove IP and deal with that this plan is pretty amazing.
I agree 100 minutes is pushing it.
I haven't had problems streaming Music on Straight Talk for the past two months here in Washington State.
Have you considered Solavei or Simple Talk? Both run on T-Mo's network but have better definitions of Data Usage.
I'd suggest porting or obtaining a Google Voice number and handing that out and using the call forwarding function. So if you have to jump to a different carrier, you're not bound to their number or deal with porting your number multiple times.
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I'm looking at this plan too. If you could get away with Groove IP and deal with that this plan is pretty amazing.
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Well in terms of call conditional forwarding, I read that straight talk doesn't support it. I think that ideally I'd go with the "monthly 4g" $50 plan T-Mobile offers. I wish I knew how fast the 3g service is after the 100mb
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I agree 100 minutes is pushing it.
I haven't had problems streaming Music on Straight Talk for the past two months here in Washington State.
Have you considered Solavei or Simple Talk? Both run on T-Mo's network but have better definitions of Data Usage.
I'd suggest porting or obtaining a Google Voice number and handing that out and using the call forwarding function. So if you have to jump to a different carrier, you're not bound to their number or deal with porting your number multiple times.
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I just bought a Solavei SIM for the following reasons:
- If you want to go with an MVNO in the US, you'll want to go with one that's using T-Mobile's frequencies for the DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps), which Solavei does
- $49/mo unlimited calling/texts/data
- Interesting referral program from which you can actually make money
If you live in an area with good T-Mobile coverage, I'd highly recommend this route.
This is the video I saw here on XDA that helped me decide.
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I just bought a Solavei SIM for the following reasons:
- If you want to go with an MVNO in the US, you'll want to go with one that's using T-Mobile's frequencies for the DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps), which Solavei does
- $49/mo unlimited calling/texts/data
- Interesting referral program from which you can actually make money
If you live in an area with good T-Mobile coverage, I'd highly recommend this route.
This is the video I saw here on XDA that helped me decide.
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Very interested in this but... Is there a fine print?
What CAN'T YOU do on this network?
Galactic2 said:
What CAN'T YOU do on this network?
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Not sure... My (admittedly hasty) research hasn't found anything out of the ordinary, except for the 4gb cap on HSPA+ speeds..
I think a lot of people are turned off by the idea of the referral program.. I found a lot of people claiming it was a scam, but I haven't found anything negative about their actual service. I suppose there's always the risk of an MVNO going under unexpectedly?
I'm not too sure, but I'll be sure to share my findings with the community once I get started on the service.
ahhlix said:
Though that sounds like a good deal, I can't deal with 100 minutes. I could use Groove IP but that is too much of a hassle, wouldn't you agree?
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According to a post on Facebook from Groove IP, its not working on 4.2 Jellybean. They are working on a fix for it. Not sure if Talkatone is working on 4.2.
If 100 minutes isn't enough for you, I would recommend Straight Talk, as I believe it offers the choice of an At&t or T-mobile SIM and it's $45 for unlimited everything (with an unofficial data cap) as a few posters already mentioned.
Once my existing contract is over, I'm actually going to port my At&t number to Google Voice so that I can switch between prepaid SIMs at will without having to tell everyone my new number each time I do so. As I see it, the point of prepaid is to be able to leave when needed, and Google Voice offers that convenience (especially with the great Android app).
ahhlix said:
Well in terms of call conditional forwarding, I read that straight talk doesn't support it. I think that ideally I'd go with the "monthly 4g" $50 plan T-Mobile offers. I wish I knew how fast the 3g service is after the 100mb
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The "Call Forwarding" Is not done through Straight Talk. You would add the phone number StraightTalk provides you to the Phone Forwarding List Of GoogleVoice account. Then give your friends/family/Ex-Wifes the Google Voice number, and when they call, it will ring your phone... So that if you do get a Carrier (ie StraightTalk) and they cancel your service, or you choose to find a different Carrier then you won't have to give out another number, people can continue to use the GoogleVoice number.
And there is nothing StraightTalk can do about that, since they really have no way of know 'cause the call is just routed through Google servers to your phone.
In response to your Original Post... I've used StraightTalk for nearly 1 yr and have never had an issue with Streaming any type of content...
I actually have to StraightTalk Sim card in a GSM Dongle that I use for my laptop... Still getting good speeds, have yet to be "Throttled", and service has not been disconnected due to streaming/data usage.
This thread has a wealth of knowledge in it...use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014

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