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Hello everyone!
I'm new here, but have been lurking and scouring the forums for a while now. I'm not a dev or anything, so I'm a total noob when it comes to cooking up roms and such... although I've done pleanty of flashing on different devices. I'm treating myself to a new phone as a late birthday present, and the HD2 looks like the best offering at the moment (or anytime soon) from T-Mobile. I just don't want to be stuck with such awesome hardware, running an OS that will be mostly obselete in a few months.
I've read that MS will continue to support WM 6.5, but we all know their deal... it'll be an afterthought once WP7 is released. I would be fine with upgrading to WP7, but unfortunately the HD2 has two too many buttons to meet the HW requirements (according to MS at this point.)
The main thing that makes me believe porting Android would be more plausible, is the upcoming release of the EVO. The hardware is so similar, it's hard for me to believe that it's not possible. Once the EVO is released, could someone use the Android 2.1 image from it, and modify it to run on the HD2? Again, I'm not a programmer, so I'm probably completely wrong... but would love to be proven otherwise.
I'm just looking for some of you with more knowledge and experience to give me some technical insight before dropping $450 on a new phone that will be out-of-date and no longer supported (for the most part) in 6 months. I would also like to keep this thread on topic, so please don't bother slagging the HD2 and suggesting other devices.
Thanks!
and another thread pops up =(
search the forum there are literally tons of threads about this
TONS especially on android
for wp7 there is no news since march 28th announcement so that means nothing more to report than the initial issues had
this is also in the windows phone 7 forum
if you want the phone, get the phone. Winows mobile is a good and highly customizable operating systme on its own and I like it.
you won't regret getting this phone, I sold my nexus one for it, and I don't even miss N1 (simply because it is not the best android phone anymore, HD 2 the best winmo up to date).
I am also a noob, but I encourage myself very often. Now android can run on iphone, what else would stop those geniuses from creating such miracles on HD2. All I have to do is enjoying the phone from the minute I have it, and stick to the forum.
I wouldn't buy the HD2 purely on the speculation of an Android port. There's no certainty that it will ever happen, and if it does, who knows how long it will take.
There are ports for older HTC models and the iPhone, but you have to keep in mind that those handsets have been out for a while, and have had many months, if not years, of development behind them. The HD2 and the snapdragon processor are relatively new, and development is starting from the ground up. It may take up to a year or more before a functional android port is available, and by then, there will more than likely be better hand-sets out there.
domineus said:
and another thread pops up =(
search the forum there are literally tons of threads about this
TONS especially on android
for wp7 there is no news since march 28th announcement so that means nothing more to report than the initial issues had
this is also in the windows phone 7 forum
if you want the phone, get the phone. Winows mobile is a good and highly customizable operating systme on its own and I like it.
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Thanks for the reply!
I've actually searched many times, and read tons of threads on this topic. The problem is, most of them are cluttered with TONS of vague info and flaming, with a tidbit of useful info here and there. I was hoping to open some discussion and spark some ideas or interest, maybe try and centralize the info.
Sorry for stepping on any toes, but this is the "T-Mobile USA HD2" general discussion forum, so I figured this would be the best place to start. I just searched the development forum and found a similar thread. I just didn't check there, as I was intending to discuss the possibility and such, not actual developing. Mods, if I'm out of line here, please move or lock this thread appropriately.
Thanks!
Edit- to the other posters, thanks for sharing experiences with me! I wasn't planning on buying the HD2 soley in hopes of porting Android, I guess I'm just looking for reassurance from folks that I'm not getting myself into a device that isn't worth the effort. I love modding my phones, but would rather not be stuck beating a dead horse in a few months. The feedback is greatly appreciated, and makes me feel much better about my decision.
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There are ports for older HTC models and the iPhone, but you have to keep in mind that those handsets have been out for a while, and have had many months, if not years, of development behind them. The HD2 and the snapdragon processor are relatively new, and development is starting from the ground up. It may take up to a year or more before a functional android port is available, and by then, there will more than likely be better hand-sets out there.
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this is true. android on the iphone only works on the iphone 2g as far as i can tell, and that phone is over 4 years old i believe. building linux kernels for a specific phone takes time, and most likely it'll take years to perfect. the ports out now for older winmo phones are useable but obviously not perfect.
i bought my hd2 mainly because it looks like pure sex to me. hehe. windows mobile didnt bother me at all since ive been using windows mobile phones since 2007. dont get me wrong, android is pretty good too. used that for about a year. each os has its own pros and cons i guess.
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to the other posters, thanks for sharing experiences with me! I wasn't planning on buying the HD2 soley in hopes of porting Android, I guess I'm just looking for reassurance from folks that I'm not getting myself into a device that isn't worth the effort. I love modding my phones, but would rather not be stuck beating a dead horse in a few months. The feedback is greatly appreciated, and makes me feel much better about my decision.
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you wont regret getting this phone. in my opinion htc did a good job with sense, making windows mobile user friendly and whatnot, but if you dont like sense, it can be easily disabled. also the stock rom to me works fine right now but there are a lot of other roms made for the hd2 already so its pretty customizable as is already.
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this is true. android on the iphone only works on the iphone 2g as far as i can tell, and that phone is over 4 years old i believe. building linux kernels for a specific phone takes time, and most likely it'll take years to perfect. the ports out now for older winmo phones are useable but obviously not perfect.
i bought my hd2 mainly because it looks like pure sex to me. hehe. windows mobile didnt bother me at all since ive been using windows mobile phones since 2007. dont get me wrong, android is pretty good too. used that for about a year. each os has its own pros and cons i guess.
you wont regret getting this phone. in my opinion htc did a good job with sense, making windows mobile user friendly and whatnot, but if you dont like sense, it can be easily disabled. also the stock rom to me works fine right now but there are a lot of other roms made for the hd2 already so its pretty customizable as is already.
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Cool, thanks for the info!
I usually try to keep from modding straight away, but after checking some roms in the development forum, I'm sure I'll start flashing sooner than later, hehe. The main thing I'm liking about the HD2 is it comes stock with the apps I'm most likely to use. I had a 2g iPhone a while back, but found I didn't use most of the apps I installed, and gave it up for a 3g device. Most of what I'm looking for is games/entertainment and themes, and I believe I've found what I'm looking for. If I'm not happy, I may try to cook up something of my own... there's certainly pleanty of resources here to get me started!
Again, I apologize for the redundant thread, but I appreciate all the feedback. This is exactly what I was looking for!
gilla409 said:
Hello everyone!
I'm new here, but have been lurking and scouring the forums for a while now. I'm not a dev or anything, so I'm a total noob when it comes to cooking up roms and such... although I've done pleanty of flashing on different devices. I'm treating myself to a new phone as a late birthday present, and the HD2 looks like the best offering at the moment (or anytime soon) from T-Mobile. I just don't want to be stuck with such awesome hardware, running an OS that will be mostly obselete in a few months.
I've read that MS will continue to support WM 6.5, but we all know their deal... it'll be an afterthought once WP7 is released. I would be fine with upgrading to WP7, but unfortunately the HD2 has two too many buttons to meet the HW requirements (according to MS at this point.)
The main thing that makes me believe porting Android would be more plausible, is the upcoming release of the EVO. The hardware is so similar, it's hard for me to believe that it's not possible. Once the EVO is released, could someone use the Android 2.1 image from it, and modify it to run on the HD2? Again, I'm not a programmer, so I'm probably completely wrong... but would love to be proven otherwise.
I'm just looking for some of you with more knowledge and experience to give me some technical insight before dropping $450 on a new phone that will be out-of-date and no longer supported (for the most part) in 6 months. I would also like to keep this thread on topic, so please don't bother slagging the HD2 and suggesting other devices.
Thanks!
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They have been working on porting linux and android to the HD2 for months now. It's not an easy process, as I have stated in the many threads that get started about this. The EVO rom cannot just be ported over. The N1 is just as close hardware wise... they actually used the N1 as a starting point for creating the linux kernel. The Evo may help a little with some drivers.
You have to understand... the kernel for the msm72xx devices (touchpro, TP2, kaiser, etc.) was started over 3 years ago... and they still don't have a fully-functional android port. There will be an android port eventually, but by time theres a fully functional port, there will be many nicer android phones out. Expect it to take a year or more for a fully-functional port, if it's ever FULLY-functional. Search the Rom section in the original Leo section for the official linux project thread.
Get the phone if you like WinMo 6.5. If not, wait for another phone. Trust me, there will be just as nice Android phones for tmobile in the next few months, and WinPhone 7 phones by the end of the year.
Hey all,
I have been waiting for news on this and it has been May since there has been any word on the Android OS being able to run on HD2s. Supposedly they have gotten over most of the major conflicts with this anticipated pairing. Check out some of the information from this article below:
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HTC HD2 Android Port Makes Strides, Nears Release [Community Overcomes Problems Plauging HTC HD2 Android Port, Hopes to Have Public Release Available Soon[
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With Windows Mobile dying a slow and painful death, Windows Phone 7 right around the corner and Android gaining a considerable portion of the smartphone marketshare along with buzz, the HTC HD2 remains a device lingering in limbo, begging for some attention. Regarded as one of the best Windows Mobile 6.5 powered handsets with a 4.3-inch capacitive display, 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 576MB of RAM, a 5 megapixel camera, microSDHC slot and WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS/3G the HTC HD2 lacks no where in terms of hardware, but arguably everywhere in terms of software.
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Apparantly, the port was plagued with problems regarding the HD2′s processor along with the Linux boot tool dubbed HaRET that would be used to actually make the Android port. Luckily, those problems have been overcome giving the HTC HD2 Android port the much needed kick to near public availability. Be sure to check back soon as we track the port’s progress.
If/when this port is made available, will all of you HD2 owners out there make the jump from Windows Mobile to Android? If not, why?
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Article from - Nexus404.com
I am not sure how true this is but hopefully it does come out soon cause i do miss my Android OS. Let me know how you guys feel about the article if you want to search for it.
I also have heard that someone actually has a working Windows Mobile 7 on a HD2, its in the development stage, can someone post on that if they know more. I am hoping for a dual boot so I can use both and have the best of both worlds.
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AndroidWindows
T-Mo HD2 6.5
Energy GTX Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
android fake app
hey theres a pretty cheezy app in the omarket that looks like android its basicly like the sbpshell i guess but its kinda cool to mess around with =) and i cant wait for andriod i check up on it every day haha i hate this winmo 6.5 crap
Keep in mind we are still a long way from a fully functional port that you would actually want to replace winmo with. I wouldn't expect a fully working port that can actually use most of the hardware (bluetooth, wifi, gps, camera, etc.) and that works like an actual android phone for at least a year... and I would consider that fast development. Look at all the other ports for other winmo phones... none of them are fully functional yet... they all have missing parts and bugs. Great progress has been made in the last week for the hd2, but theres still a long way to go.
guess if you could do a dual boot with windows and android..would that make it the first hybrid OS? maybe call it WinDroid..or has that already been coined?
check out the twitter page where they posted a pic of the hd2 running ubuntu
twitter. com/htc_linux
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guess if you could do a dual boot with windows and android..would that make it the first hybrid OS? maybe call it WinDroid..or has that already been coined?
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There are several other WinMo phones that can boot into android... this isn't the first winmo device there working on this for. That's how we pretty much know what to expect with the port and how it will take a long time to get it fully functional... They'e been porting android to winmo devices for years... even before there was an android device released.... but not one port is fully functional yet like a dedicated android phone. These android ports are fun to play with and if theres specific apps you want to use its nice to be able to boot into android... but they usually aren't good enough to replace winmo as your daily phone os for a long time. So don't expect your HD2 to become as functional as an EVO or any other android phone anytime soon.
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Keep in mind we are still a long way from a fully functional port that you would actually want to replace winmo with. I wouldn't expect a fully working port that can actually use most of the hardware (bluetooth, wifi, gps, camera, etc.) and that works like an actual android phone for at least a year... and I would consider that fast development. Look at all the other ports for other winmo phones... none of them are fully functional yet... they all have missing parts and bugs. Great progress has been made in the last week for the hd2, but theres still a long way to go.
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Who can tell whether the android port for HTC HD2 is also valid on my t-mobile HD2.
I know the work is in progress but want to check it first, since I have an offer to exchange for a HTC HD2 currently.
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Titicaca said:
Who can tell whether the android port for HTC HD2 is also valid on my t-mobile HD2.
THX
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IT works on TMoUS HD2 the same as EU HD2
they work just the same
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There are several other WinMo phones that can boot into android... this isn't the first winmo device there working on this for. That's how we pretty much know what to expect with the port and how it will take a long time to get it fully functional... They'e been porting android to winmo devices for years... even before there was an android device released.... but not one port is fully functional yet like a dedicated android phone. These android ports are fun to play with and if theres specific apps you want to use its nice to be able to boot into android... but they usually aren't good enough to replace winmo as your daily phone os for a long time. So don't expect your HD2 to become as functional as an EVO or any other android phone anytime soon.
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Wow if I knew this I wouldnt have gotten one. Guess I should have done more research..
i hate windows, i cannot wait for an android os for the hd2, if the android os wasnt in the works i never would have bought the hd2. i appreciate all of your hardwork on this project, youre all great, and if i could i would donate thousands to the cause. but im a poor broke white boy, lol.
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i hate windows, i cannot wait for an android os for the hd2, if the android os wasnt in the works i never would have bought the hd2. i appreciate all of your hardwork on this project, youre all great, and if i could i would donate thousands to the cause. but im a poor broke white boy, lol.
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Like I said earlier... the android port is not going to be as good as an android phone. Your not going to want to use it full time and replace windows with it for at least a year. You shouldn't have gotten a HD2 if you don't like winmo, because thats the only os that will run well on the phone for a long time. The android port will be nice to play with, but its going to be very buggy and not very functional for a long time. Look at the android ports for the other winmo phones... and they've been under development for years.
I don't know about that...I've used the port on both the Touch Pro and the Touch Pro 2 and both are REALLY good. Really...the ONLY thing that stops me from using the TP2 port in everyday use is the "no external speaker". It's usually not a big deal durring work hrs since it's on vibrate all day anyway...but when im home and stuff gets loud...vibrate doesn't work for me. The only other things that don't work I believe are camera, bt, and gps(which KIND of works). None of those 3 would stop me from using a phone every day. The Android port for the TP2 is blazing fast compared to other devices with the same processor(i.e. g1/mytouch) and offers you that beautiful wvga resolution(480x800). if and when the HD2 gets to that point...i'd use WM durring the day for work, and Android by night lol
Is triple booting possible?
I thuroughly enjoy the freedom that the HD2 allows us. If you know how to us WM propperly,there isn't anything that this hardware can't handle. Adding the ability to boot into Android, or WP7 for that matter,is simply an added bonus. Will I install it on my phone? Of course. There isn't much that I haven't installed on my phone. But did I buy this in hopes of a port to another OS? No. I would have bought a phone that came with said OS if I needed that.
Thank you to all the developers who have worked tirelessly to make our phones so much fun. Keep doing what you do for those of us who can't.
^i agree wholeheartedly. I bought this phone after having a G1 and before that having a Wing, MDA and SDA. I am used to WinMo and Android and though I love Android, I can't say I'm dissatisfied with WinMo at all. I love the freedom to flash roms and all the different sorts of customization options I've got. If Android is what you want, I'd say don't get the HD2 from the start.
Speaking of Win 7 I hope the developers are working on it for the HD2. Rumor was that it will not be able to run on it.
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I thuroughly enjoy the freedom that the HD2 allows us. If you know how to us WM propperly,there isn't anything that this hardware can't handle. Adding the ability to boot into Android, or WP7 for that matter,is simply an added bonus. Will I install it on my phone? Of course. There isn't much that I haven't installed on my phone. But did I buy this in hopes of a port to another OS? No. I would have bought a phone that came with said OS if I needed that.
Thank you to all the developers who have worked tirelessly to make our phones so much fun. Keep doing what you do for those of us who can't.
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+1! Very well said!
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Keep in mind we are still a long way from a fully functional port that you would actually want to replace winmo with. I wouldn't expect a fully working port that can actually use most of the hardware (bluetooth, wifi, gps, camera, etc.) and that works like an actual android phone for at least a year... and I would consider that fast development. Look at all the other ports for other winmo phones... none of them are fully functional yet... they all have missing parts and bugs. Great progress has been made in the last week for the hd2, but theres still a long way to go.
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Why even bother if it is soo buggy and not fully functional? Just for fun? I don't get it if it is sooo far away from a fully functional port why is everyone so excited. Sorry but your statement makes me feel like this android port is a big waste of time. Im sure next time I get a new phone I will try out an ANDROID phone.
The reason we are excited is because it brings new life to our phones, it allows us the freedom of choice. I love Windows and I love Android and the prospect of getting WP7 makes me excited because I don't have to shell out money for a new phone when I have a phone that I love right here, to do whatever I want and make my phone what I want it to be. It isn't a waste of time, it is a huge step to the development for a Android port to an original Windows phone. Saying it's a huge waste of time is like saying cooked roms is a huge waste of time, it adds another spectrum to our devices allowing us to customize, mod, hack, and personalize as we please.
I just booted Android on my HD2 and I can not wait till it's stable and I can play around with it even more. I got to the Set Up Device screen and played with the menu ! I'll post a video soon!
Leo HD2 was a BIG hit and generated the most popular and posted forum here at XDA. That was until the big BOOM when HTC, Samsung, et al started to introduce the endless variants of the same device (or mediocre upgrade with a slightly different shell) resulting today with the overly populated XDA today.
HD2 is the only device here on XDA with the most Subforum: WM, Android, Ubuntu, WP7, and MeeGo.
My question is what and when is the next “BIG THING?” Or has it already happened? Was it an EVO3D? Where are all the new DEVELOPERS flocking to? I am NOT talking about Chefs; I am talking about people who make contributions to the future of a device.
Come on guys, get real, what other device have had this potential and strong development community! I mean, HD2 got Gingerbread way before official ROMs even rolled out to other native android devices.
So, what and when is the next “BIG THING?”
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Awaiting HTC ETERNITY
lemonspeakers said:
Leo HD2 was a BIG hit and generated the most popular and posted forum here at XDA. That was until the big BOOM when HTC, Samsung, et al started to introduce the endless variants of the same device (or mediocre upgrade with a slightly different shell) resulting today with the overly populated XDA today.
HD2 is the only device here on XDA with the most Subforum: WM, Android, Ubuntu, WP7, and MeeGo.
My question is what and when is the next “BIG THING?” Or has it already happened? Was it an EVO3D? Where are all the new DEVELOPERS flocking to? I am NOT talking about Chefs; I am talking about people who make contributions to the future of a device.
Come on guys, get real, what other device have had this potential and strong development community! I mean, HD2 got Gingerbread way before official ROMs even rolled out to other native android devices.
So, what and when is the next “BIG THING?”
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totaly agree.
Yeah!
You tell me and I'll but it :-D I just love my HD2! I actually sold it many times, but had to get one again after a while, couldn't stay away hehe. Mostly it was because of all the great people in here kept developing stuff for it!
Thanks guys for making this phone EPIC! XDA made HD2 full fill it's potential.
The real answere is: HD2
End of game for all...
i think the hd2 phenomenon happened due to the following favorable circumstances:
- at the time of its launch it was (and still is) the best wm device and also had superior hardware compared to anything else on the market (for example, the best android device was the htc hero...) - this attracted a large number of developers and users alike
- the htc android phones coming afterwards shared almost the same hardware (nexus one, desire) - this (+ the fact that android is open source) made things much easier for developers and we had the 1st succesful android port very quickly. from then on, the development exploded...
- similarily, the htc hd7 shares similar hardware to our hd2 and the developers managed to port also wp7
- the involvement of cotulla & dft - all the important steps in the development bare their name: hspl, porting android, magldr, porting wp7
regarding a possible succesor to the throne ruled by our hd2, i must admit i'm rather skeptical. the market is very diversified now with many great devices to choose which divides the developers too much...
however, my next phone will be a dual core (most probably htc or samsung) but i will wait for dft to see which model they choose...
the next big thing? hmm good question, would it be too much to ask for a 4.2" device with many finger multi touch, 32 bit display, 1024MB ROM 1024MB RAM ill keep the 5MP camera but i want propper optics on it, perhaps a 28mm or 32mm lense 12MP is pointless without optics to match, not too fussed about the CPU or GPU as the HD2 does a damn good job so whatever CPU is around, oh and something that quite easy to SPL unlock, it would need to run WM and WP too
So im guessing that just an HD2+ then
If i ever win the lottery, im gonna see how much HTC would charge to make me one
in all seriousness, there isnt anything that would significantly upshow the HD2 just now, the HD7 does a good job but its essentially the same thing, something new will need to be released, my guess is whatever the successor to the HD7 is will take the crown, so long as its unlockable
Im still waiting on my dream phone.. non of the new phones out there impress me as much as the hd2 did when it came out thats why im still stuck with my lovely hd2. What we need is manufactures to stop doing small steps (only draining our wallets) we need:
1. flexible transparent screens (its been created over 5yrs ago)
2. 8megapixel cam or higher
3. Samsung Xynos processor (2GHz) or something similar.
4.Windows phone 7 os (once its fully developed) we all know it needs to mature more to be the king.
I hope its a Nokia WP7 device...
HTC has gone into garbage mode...having produced 30 phones with similar specs and designs...with dumbdroid mainly.
I really hope its a Nokia...mainly because I'm absolutely tired of HTC's poor reception, poor battery life, crappy imaging lenses and terrible customer support...all things Nokia excels at.
Next big thing is Windows 8 Arm Edition on the HD2.
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I hope its a Nokia WP7 device...
HTC has gone into garbage mode...having produced 30 phones with similar specs and designs...with dumbdroid mainly.
I really hope its a Nokia...mainly because I'm absolutely tired of HTC's poor reception, poor battery life, crappy imaging lenses and terrible customer support...all things Nokia excels at.
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HTC Costomer service has always treated me well. Three diff times i've been pleased with it. And its not as though samsung phones get great batt life. friend had a Vibrant and the batt life was terrible. Kind of a lemon in that regard (and some others) and yet i know other Samsung phones are better. What, are you going to buy an LG? haha. our beloved suffers from a rediculously huge screen and thats partially to blame. That and the fact most people forget, on WM this thing got great batt life. And thats what it was made for. With these new processors, things should get better. Got to agree with you on the camera thing though
Definitely waiting on the Eternity Thing is beastly!!!!
Or a nice Nokia in Q4 sounds good.
The next big thing is already there. It's called the Galaxy S II.
Fastest Proc, Most RAM, Fastest GPU, thinnest/lightest phone, best touch input sensor, most internal Memory, biggest/longest lasting battery, screen only rivalled by the HTC Sensation.
This of course doesnt mean it will become as big as the HD2 but it has the most potential at the moment.
As for the HD2: Nobody at the time could predict that the HD2 would become such a huge modding succes. If Microsoft had decided to not base their WP7 on the same CPU, there would be no WP7 on this device.
If HTC hadn't brought the Desire/N1 with near-indentical hardware specs, Android on this thing would be a lot less functional. Meego and Ubuntu are nice (The letter being functional on virtually any mid/high-end android device at the moment and the former being dead at any rate)
At the moment the relevant OSes remain (and will remain) Android, iOS and WP7. Since we are never going to see an iOS port to anything, you should look for a device that is based on a CPU that WP7.5 (or Mango) is optimized for (hopefully MS will upgrade from this dated proc with pathetic 3D capabilities to something more comparable to the Samsung Exynos or Apple A5).
I havent followed the rumor mill but if there is a tendency to a specific proc that is available to all producers, then the chance of getting WP7 and Android in the newest version running on any device would be on one that has this new hardware based. Since there is no such device that I am aware of right now, I would vote for the Android High-ends (the modders love the SGSII and Sensation and they will remain top of the line for at least 10 months)
I very much like this post and totally agree but you cant possible think because you have awesome specs on a phone your gonna have the next hd2...if you remember the hd2 was nice but software wise it was absolutely terrible...especially because everyone wanted android on the hardware but even then nobody knew the potential the phone would have. If back then when the phone first dropped, compared to other phone with better specs like the evo...nobody would have said..."this is the next big phone that will forever change the face of modding/rooting a phone". The community came together and made advances on that phone which were once thought impossible....all the roms started slow and sluggish...lagging until they were perfected by gifted and talented individuals. No make a long story short....u can't tell what a phone will be like based one specs...its all about the participation of devs and a lot of feedback. Trial and error.....time and dedication.
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There most likely won't be another big thing or successor to the HD2 and this is for a few reasons.
1st, the HD2 was supposed to be this awesome Windows Mobile phone that bridged the gap from WinMo to WP7. Well when they decided not to allow an upgrade path to WP7 that didn't happen. And a lot of people just weren't happy with WinMo running so horribly on such an obviously awesome phone. So a need or a demand was created and filled by devs allowing us to port Android to our HD2s.
With the market the way it is now, that's not likely to happen with so many choices available.
You've got awesome specced phones like the Evo3D, HTC Sensation, Samsung Android, Motorola Android phones. Even the new WP7 devices being released are awesome! So no one is really breaking down doors to port Android to an awesome device that runs suck ass software because most phones being released have good software. In my opinion, WP7 is awesome software that just needs a boost so if I had a phone that had it I wouldn't port anything to the device running it.
Secondly, no other phone right now can run multiple OS' like the HD2 can. Which phone runs WinMo, Android, WP7, Ubuntu, and possibly Meego? AND it can dual boot ROMs too! None and we aren't likely to see it attempted on as huge a scale as it was on the HD2! The HD2 will be the last of its kind a memento that proves to the huge corporations that if you don't do it right, someone else will and they will do it better lol.
Sad tho, cause my HD2 opened up a new world and when I move on to my next device I'm gonna miss porting ROMs on a day to day basis or on whim. I'll miss switching from Sense to a Vanilla ROM to a cyanogen ROM to WP7...
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In my mind, the next big thing are devices like the Motorola Atrix, where the processing power and storage is phone based but can dock with a laptop workstation or tablet. Now that would be my ideal handset...
B4PJS said:
In my mind, the next big thing are devices like the Motorola Atrix, where the processing power and storage is phone based but can dock with a laptop workstation or tablet. Now that would be my ideal handset...
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People already sell their existing phones, barter, trade or do whatever they have to do to get a new or updated device...now your suppose to get a specific laptop just so u can dock it??? USB works just fine ill pass on the add on sales.....
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Seriously, i think that the next "big thing" will be the first htc with unlocked bootlader as htc said...
maybe HTC Eternity????
Never again will there be a phone.. in this and the next decade (perhaps forever?) that allowed such versatility between completely different platforms..
Personally - next big thing is ...
For me I think that the Samsung Galaxy S2 ... should be the next thing to leap to ... it is fantastic ... I have an HD2 but if i lose it or it goes bad ... I will defo buy one of them things .... It's got a 1.5 Ghz dual core cpu ..amoled2 screen ..... cameras at the front and at the back ... full framerate playback and ultra slim .... good quality camera ... battery drain is really discrete .... and the Gfx are fast and good .. runs android like a charm ... Definitely it will be a fav with all devs ...
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For me I think that the Samsung Galaxy S2 ... should be the next thing to leap to ... it is fantastic ... I have an HD2 but if i lose it or it goes bad ... I will defo buy one of them things .... It's got a 1.5 Ghz dual core cpu ..amoled2 screen ..... cameras at the front and at the back ... full framerate playback and ultra slim .... good quality camera ... battery drain is really discrete .... and the Gfx are fast and good .. runs android like a charm ... Definitely it will be a fav with all devs ...
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http://wmpoweruser.com/category/windows-phone-7-5/
Very nice!
i bought a hd2 last week, since the i have tried like 20 different roms both wp7 and android ones, and i m loving it,, but i m curious to know that how come this is the only phone that can do this, i mean wat is in it ( or not there in it) , that makes it support different operating systems.
One word DFT!
OK so I guess it is actually three Dark Forces Team. A group of devs including Cotula that dove head first into the phone once we found out that Micro$oft was going to leave us high and dry when it cam to WP7. They and all of the other devs that flocked to this phone, mostly because of its top of the line specs at the time and even still for the most part, are why this phone is still a beast!
Really all our phone doesn't have is a front facing camera, better screen resolution, and higher ram. And truthful the last one is really not that far behind what is out in the "top of the line "phones coming out today, and none are true deal breakers
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yes i totally agree,its still not far behind in terms of performance, i tried out Shadowgun game in galaxy s2 and was amazed by its graphics, but then i tested it on hd2 ics 4.04 , i was surprised to see that it gave me almost same graphics as s2 , and ran really smoothly..
And wen i thought of reason exactly same reason struk my mind that, this was an awesum device getting ruined on wp6.5, so i order to have wp7 in it all this development happened..
But wat i want to know is if some developers gives his everything to some other phone , like they gave everything to hd2 , can some other device of today replace hd2 in terms of multiple operating systems support....
I really don't have high hopes for any other phones following the course of the HD2. People now are really one way or another (either love android or WP7 not both and most "hate" the opposing OS). Heck if I knew how to do it I would love to see IOS and the new BB10 on here just to prove once again HD2 is king!
The reason I think we got all of this was the fact that when they found out wp6.5 was dieing they wanted to get something that would be supported for longer. Android was in the beginning of its boom and WP7 was still in development at MS so some devs got together and got Android to boot on SD using HARET. People fell in love and DFT started working on nand. During this time devs started using the base we were given to get Linux and Windows running from SD. DFT got nand working with magldr then WP7 dropped and I have a feeling Cotula really likes it (since that seems to be the bulk of his posts lately) so he reformatted magldr to be able to run both. Then meego came out and development sounded promising but never got the attention from the right devs plus it was dropped by nokia (I think) so I don't see that going anywhere.
I think the main reason we have all this is that the SPL was torn down and fully understood meaning that they were able to turn the phone into a blank slate with the ability to control every aspect of it with the right code (magldr) . Leaving it possible to do whatever they wanted. Plus the open source nature of android helps!
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@tobiascrystal
thanks for the mini-history of our HD2, i too was wondering like amitoj about the HD2. I guess coz it was the last line in the wp6.5 series with still so much power in it that it became what it was now.
I was also searching the net for a similar phone that can run magldr & other bootloader but found none or a few is in development. I was thinking since a lot of other phones out there have similar spec as the HD2 can't they do the same for those?
I would say that anything is possible with enough time, brain power, and motivation (and maybe some cash) . All these newer smartphones are nothing but mini computers and could, in theory, all do the same thing as the HD2 but like I said you have to have someone(s) that is really devoted. If I remember correctly it took over a year of coding for DFT to get magldr ready for the masses. I am not sure what the next super phone is going to be that catches that kind of developer attention. I tell you one thing though, the day I hear about it I don't care if I have to pay full retail I will be next in line to buy it!
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Indeed, I fear the time when my HD2 will die and I will be forced to use new phone with stock roms Hopefully till this time, some phone will get as much attentions as our beloved leo.
@delwing
i guess, other phones do accept custom roms , but not of a totally different operating system.
We are lucky that this device got so much attention from developers , but really after using it , i dont think ill ever like any phone more than this. and i guess hd2 is gonna be one of a kind for years to come. But i really wish that there comes a phone which is as beautiful as HD2 and which can match high end specs of today's phones. At present its specs are more than wat are required , but in an year or two we will need some phone like this with better specs.
I am in the Philippines and am currently using htc One X. But I have been searching for a brand new HTC HD2 for a long time now and I can't seem to find one I miss this beast of a phone. This is the first time I have used android by the way. Call me old school, but I like WM6.5 better. Even better than WP7.5. Personally I think the possibilities in customization on HD2 is endless. hehehe..of course hardware wise it got left beind but still...anyone know where I can get a bnew one?
Thailand still has them available including new boxed TMOUS models ...
WM6.5 is the king of customization & good settings, only software development made Android popular, the actual OS is ****e ...
there will never be an HD2 again, the market is so diluted with *cough-****e-* cough that developers and would be developers are spread out to thin.
The HD2 was king simply because it was THE phone to have, there was very little similar to it, and the power within its S1 SoC was way ahead of anything else, thus we ended up with a situation where the HD2 was the place to be. The fact that soft SPL then hard SPL was done quickly followed by Android booting from within WM cemented its fame, the final rise to power was MAGLDR, allowing pretty much anything to be done. Live it up guys, as sure as bears crap in the woods, this will never happen to a device again so long as they keep pumping out so much crap in to the markets and doing everything to lock them down.
very simple answer to the question.
it can only run
wm 6.5, wp7, all the versions of Android, meego and Ubuntu
enyaj said:
I am in the Philippines and am currently using htc One X. But I have been searching for a brand new HTC HD2 for a long time now and I can't seem to find one I miss this beast of a phone. This is the first time I have used android by the way. Call me old school, but I like WM6.5 better. Even better than WP7.5. Personally I think the possibilities in customization on HD2 is endless. hehehe..of course hardware wise it got left beind but still...anyone know where I can get a bnew one?
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ebay HK still have some new ones & they ship worldwide, give it a search
G.O.A.T.
I have been waiting to see the HD2 in the Guinness Book of World Records for the number of OS's on one Phone.
I am just as pleased or more so today as I was when I woke up early to be at T-Mobile when the doors opened to be the first to have one. I work for AT&T and I see lots of new phone come and go. As best I can tell most people love their OS. Unlike most of us HD2 owners here who love our phone.
I would also like to thank the developers for their hard word and staying ahead of the pack. For Example, I was running a stable version of ICS months before the newer phones received their updates or pre-installs appeared in the work place.
I truly believe that the HTC-HD2 will be looked at as one of the G.O.A.T.. (Greatest of all Time)
Hello
I have just broken my HTC HD2 trying to replace the USB port (accidentally sethered the ribbon cable going to the volume button putting it back together).
Ii was wandering if anyone knows any phone out there like the HD2 which can be hacked to update to the new WP8 when it comes out, or is as versatile at hacking as the HD2.
I am considering buying a new phone, but my main attraction of the HD2 is that i can hack it to update it to the latest install of my chosen OS (in this case WP7)
Are there any phones that can be hacked liked the HD2?
Thanks
Regards
Hello,
None that I know of.
The HD2 lacks a front camera IMHO, internal storage memory too (not the TMOUS version, but the 3G frequencies don't match the European needs unfortunately) and its processor's speed will look outdated sooner or later as compared to more recent devices, but all in all, it stays the best pocket PC ever having been designed, and yes, it's the only one to allow so many OSes swapping.
It may be both because of not being locked by the maker, and because a lot of people worked on the possibility to port other systems...
Anyway, it remains the only one up to now.
It may also have something to do with the fact that Windows Mobile users have always been people curious to experiment with their phones, while nowadays, WP7 users will just buy a WP7 device, and so on for Android, I don't know. Remember Windows Mobile seems not to have been so popular in the past, though having been a real pioneer, far, far before the iPhone was even a project, and it did gain some real fans, that were generally from a generation where a computer was used to program and experiment with (just have a look to my nickname )
It looks like some time has passed since then, and smartphones changed status, from swiss knife-like tools, to consumer products, thanks to makers and software editors policies, and thanks too to people changing phones twice a months.
I personnaly won't change mine for an empire, and I'm not ready to drop WM6.5.x. I bought several used HD2s from eBay, and if you really intend to keep the possibility to swap operating systems, you should do the same.
Otherwise, just buy a recent WP7 device : you'll still be able to upgrade anyway, as long as you keep up using WP7 of course.
Just keep in mind that devices, that run wp7, wont get wp8. They'll get wp7.8. But those are only official updates.
Developers can always port and mod
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Hello,
None that I know of.
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The TOSHIBA TG01 can run Windows Phone too. to let you know...:cyclops:
thanks Z80 man
I have a feeling someone will hack it to be able to use WP8, it just seems like if WP7 can be ported, then will WP8 be that much different?
If it cant be ported 100% then, as im using WP7 all the time now, it would seem that buying a new phone would be a good option! Just not sure i can let go of this amazing phone ive had for so many years!
Being able to switch OS's after WM6.5 and make various improvements etc etc makes it like having a new phone.
Looking at the toshiba phone suggested, it doesnt have any better specs than the HD2.
Shame that no phone like this will come about again!
stevemilw said:
I have a feeling someone will hack it to be able to use WP8, it just seems like if WP7 can be ported, then will WP8 be that much different?
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I'm sure that not only the HD2 will be ported by enthousiasts, but most, if not all recent WP7 devices will be able to be ported to WP8, even if not officially.
Now it could depend on Microsoft's will to lock devices more and more to prevent that. And makers too, actually, as their goal is finally to sell new devices even if you don't need them !
Apart from that, did WP7 became so good ? It was lacking a lot of useful features when it was released...
Thanks, might have to wait and see what WP7 phones can be hacked to WP8
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Apart from that, did WP7 became so good ? It was lacking a lot of useful features when it was released...
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Yea, they released the 7.5 update and i really liked it. Searching is alot easier, and it has OCR for looking at game covers and searching them on the internet along with a music listener now, to tell you what song is playing, all built in.
These are just a few features, but i just like its simplicity, and the apps are decent enough and easier to use than the somewhat buggy ones on WM6.5.
I found issues with WM6.5 that really annoyed me, like two 'OK' button, one which means 'OK to exit the program' and one which means 'OK in the application or menu system.
I think it was a bit of a conflict between wm6.5 and the sense over the top.
But im pretty happy with the simplicity of the WP7, just easier to use, i have my favourite apps to check like the news etc.
And also, even with energy ROM it did crash allot. randomly switching off etc.
Didn't have any luck solving these issues so i tried WP7, and its pretty good!
If you like making apps etc, you can still put them on with XAP so its still pretty open to devs as far as i can tell.
ZTE Blade can also run wp7
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phon...&utm_campaign=Feed:+WmPowerUser+(WMPowerUser)