Hello
Developers please pay a little more attention towards the xperia pro. I've been owning it since end October an am a bit disappointed. Six months have passed and still not much custom ROMs for it. I see a lot of development going on for other new devices like the Xperia S but why not pro. Till now only three custom ROMs are available wbich is very less as compares even to the low end and legacy devices like htc chacha.
This is a humble request from all the pro owners.
PS: pro needs its own section
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I think your "PS" is more relevant than the main body of your post.
Developers are people like you and me who invest their own spare time into modding their devices. It is not up to you to demand that others make ROMs for the community, rather that WE form the community.
There are a few good Xperia Pro custom ROMs and mods about, but the problem is that they are very scattered, and the complete lack of organisation here and contradictory advice of where to discuss Xperia Pro (with randon willy-nilly thread closures), along with the intransigent attitude of some admins towards even considering the two minutes work required to create an Xperia Pro sub-section simply stunts any growth in the community.
The Xperia Pro has a significant market niche of being the only respectable GLOBAL QWERTY slider to have been released in the last year, and indeed on the market at the present time. Many people simply do not realise howw important a good QWERTY device is to some of us, and have probably not used one either to understand how superior many of us might feel that QWERTY devices are. There is no point in a 20-core 8 GB RAM phone with 7" screen if the text input is gimped (inaccurate and taking up your whole screen), and the device no longer fits in your pocket! The Xperia Pro gets this right and for those who have used it understand why it completely wallops other devices that might look better on paper.
Truely a good statement! You just took all the words in my mind!
I was trying to port MiUI to pro but my notebook fell into the swimming pool and the HDD wont work anymore. I need some time to collect money to buy another and start developing.
I need every pro owner get inspired by others and to try something.
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Cant the moderator create a sub forum for xperia pro development like ray,live with walkman n etc.?
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Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
Riyal said:
Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
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I think the main problem is that pro was focused towards businessmen and such peoplr. Developers generally dont fancy hw QWERTY
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I don't think so... If you go to maemo forums you'll see a userbase on which 3/4 are developers and 1/4 are regular users and all of those developers stick to that forum for 2 reasons. 1 All phones/tablets have HW Keyboard & 2 OS is linux. Sad that nokia decided to ditch those and go with windows phones. On which the main reason why I switched android.
Anyone who's interested to do something check this out. I'll start developing one I get a new notebook.
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/porting-android
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Riyal said:
Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
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No, the main problem is ignorance of the admins towards how unique and great this phone is. Jjust look at the manner in which devices which the admins fall for the hype for such as the Samsung GSIII receive forums before they even exist or are known about. If the American admin were living in Europe where we have a QWERTY drought then they would have understood that many of us were eagerly waiting for months before the Xperia Pro release and would have created a forum without thought. "Dual core" etc. matters not one iota to many of us if it doesn't have proper QWERTY input.
It is a chicken-and-egg situation. I believe the developers are there in the community, merely that XDA (now regrettably the main place for SE development) is so disorganised that it makes it difficult to communicate.
It would be two minutes work to create a development sub-section in Neo, and actually less work for moderators to deal with the scattered Xperia Pro discussions as we have at present.
Frankly, I wish all Sony Ericsson users would get together, abandon XDA altogether, and return to websites like Esato, sense, TopSony as they did in the old days. At least then all devices would be appreciated and understood by those in charge.
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Weigh in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095923&page=11
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533272
to see what we are dealing with.
paul5425 said:
No, the main problem is ignorance of the admins towards how unique and great this phone is. Jjust look at the manner in which devices which the admins fall for the hype for such as the Samsung GSIII receive forums before they even exist or are known about. If the American admin were living in Europe where we have a QWERTY drought then they would have understood that many of us were eagerly waiting for months before the Xperia Pro release and would have created a forum without thought. "Dual core" etc. matters not one iota to many of us if it doesn't have proper QWERTY input.
It is a chicken-and-egg situation. I believe the developers are there in the community, merely that XDA (now regrettably the main place for SE development) is so disorganised that it makes it difficult to communicate.
It would be two minutes work to create a development sub-section in Neo, and actually less work for moderators to deal with the scattered Xperia Pro discussions as we have at present.
Frankly, I wish all Sony Ericsson users would get together, abandon XDA altogether, and return to websites like Esato, sense, TopSony as they did in the old days. At least then all devices would be appreciated and understood by those in charge.
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Weigh in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095923&page=11
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533272
to see what we are dealing with.
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Man this **** is not gonna help us. What we need to do is flood any one of the sections with xperia pro things like mods, ROMs, questions general discussions etc.
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Xperia pro is the best smartphone in its class. There's nothing compared to xperia pro when it comes to a physical keyboard.
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Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Flo95 said:
Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Everyone doesn't care just about 100Ghz processor with thousands of cores. Many people care about the usability of the device. Typing anything on a hardware keyboard is far less easy than on a touchscreen
I own a X10i, pro, xperia s and htc tytn ii. I use pro most of the time due to its usability.
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king-iyokan said:
Man this **** is not gonna help us. What we need to do is flood any one of the sections with xperia pro things like mods, ROMs, questions general discussions etc.
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I agree that we should indeed do that, and am working on some mods too in my spare time...
(after all, it has already been accepted to allow Xperia Pro to be discussed, merely not exactly agreed properly WHERE.) All we are requesting is a little cleanup with a small single forum under Xperia Pro (or perhaps more pragmatically here under Arc given the volume of stuff already here).
Flo95 said:
Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Rather bold words there completely out of line with the 470+ votes and available ROMs!
Some of us don't require advertising to make informed decisions. Nor do we think that it is work spending €100 more for a device with less features (cough! Arc cough! Perhaps this thread would have been better posted over to the Neo section where there seem to be less of these perceptions)
Show us some loveeeeeeee!
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Will Neo V Roms works with Pro?....ATM all hardware are same a part from PRO'S keyboard...
@king-iyokan
account is disabled.. i also think that pro users should get there seperate forum..
and he should be the leader because he has a developer spirit..,:
paul5425 said:
I agree that we should indeed do that, and am working on some mods too in my spare time...
(after all, it has already been accepted to allow Xperia Pro to be discussed, merely not exactly agreed properly WHERE.) All we are requesting is a little cleanup with a small single forum under Xperia Pro (or perhaps more pragmatically here under Arc given the volume of stuff already here).
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ifu said:
Will Neo V Roms works with Pro?....ATM all hardware are same a part from PRO'S keyboard...
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An interesting question. I think Neo V has different partition layouts, but I would have thought Arc and Neo ROMs could be made to work (though have read they will brick your device), except with some of the keyboard configuration left out. I think we should be pushing for an initiative to port Neo and Arc ROMs to Pro, or for example develop some sort of patch which would automate the process.
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It's pretty clear that XDA is centered around a community of developers and mobile device enthusiasts, rather than a particular platform, company, or carrier. That's why the switch to add non-HTC phones about a year ago has resulted in a fantastic new wave of development for a range of devices.
It's clear that HP's WebOS platform has a bright future. The Veer, Pre 3, and Touchpad were recently announced. These devices have us excited, and curious as to whether the XDA community would benefit if we were to add a forum for WebOS development. We'd start with the platform, rather than a particular device, like we did for Samsung's Bada OS, then see where it comes from there.
What do you think? Add WebOS, or skip it?
I say, Hell yea!
IMO, there's already way too much stuff on XDA and I don't think WebOS will ever really take off...
ever since xda has come out of the exclusive to htc phones phase, id say that we would have to add WebOS. its just the natural step forward...
Hell yea!
Don't ask, just do it
+1 on this
NRGZ28 said:
IMO, there's already way too much stuff on XDA and I don't think WebOS will ever really take off...
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I say yes. I come to XDA everyday and I would love to learn about webos.
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Not a bad idea. XDA has so many members so that's not a problem. XDA must be the biggest and the best community about Mobile OS.
Yes, it is a great idea! Do it!
Another vote in favor...
+1 on webOS.
I love webOS (I have used it for quite a while) and having webOS here on the forum would give me an excuse to read the forums again. And if XDA has a section for the iPhone I don't see why there wouldn't also be a section for HP webOS.
XDA is continuing to grow in size. More enthusiasts and developers are join the comunity. I think XDA should support as many different devices or OSes as possible. I think it should be added. Although I do think with the increase of support and members the site may have to be redesigned aat one point.
AdamiX said:
Don't ask, just do it
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+1
While it is nice to have an open dialogue with users, I agree with the above quote, just do it!
Thanks.
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Do it! I think that it'll be great. I'm personally torn between the G-Slate and a WebOS tablet.
More systems more fun!
I would really like to ask "why not?" to those people saying NO to this thread.
Yes. webOS must be added. We all miss the days of HTC only phones on xda sometimes but they're long gone.
Absolutely, WebOS should be added. It's quite possibly the most accepted homebrew platform available to consumers. And to those who there is "too many already", don't read those sections. XDA cleanly organizes the sections.
Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Its just when Free sharing become business donation to others.
Ciao Arc/s
My Works: The Arctic Rom (Discontinued)
Swapper: Swapper [Root Users] Reduce Lag and Save Ram
Moving to Razr and SGN.
Patambiz said:
Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Ciao Arc/s
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Even though I don't know much about your work or your support for the Arc / Arc S, it's sad to see guys leaving thanks to a bunch of morons that's envy on other guys quality work. Yes, your SWAP application is joy and quality (at the same time) that has saved me a lot of times when struggling to make ICS worth my time, and to avoid making this too fanboyish - I wish u all luck with whatever you now are going to do!
Thanks for your support, Patambiz! And a lot of greetings (hopefully) from the Arc community.
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Hey there guys and girls!
I know its nothing new but the idea of having a off-topic thread really hits the beat.
Was getting bored and there were a lot of OTT to choose from...so i decided to create a new one.
I know its so awesome of me to call off-topic threads as OTT!
This OTT will be known as **Gabbar Singh** LoL
Gabbar Singh: Hello World!
Its time to say hi...
*P.S. your participation is seriously appreciated, cause am still getting bored*
Gabbar Singh!
Reserved
Gabbar Singh!
I was thinking of discussing this with you people.
The Idea: Using the free storage in the external memory card as additional RAM in our android machines
Verdict: Rate it on a scale of 10 and obviously your comments are anticipated.
Gabbar Singh!
Fuel-The-Droid said:
I was thinking of discussing this with you people.
The Idea: Using the free storage in the external memory card as additional RAM in our android machines
Verdict: Rate it on a scale of 10 and obviously your comments are anticipated.
Gabbar Singh!
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isnt that work almost just like swap? correct me if Im wrong
No idea about swapping !
Gabbar Singh!
How many are you excited for the new BB10 ?
Though some of features announced are quite common in android but I am quite excited to see if the new rim dna is up for competing against the droid.
Gabbar Singh!
Fuel-The-Droid said:
How many are you excited for the new BB10 ?
Though some of features announced are quite common in android but I am quite excited to see if the new rim dna is up for competing against the droid.
Gabbar Singh!
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Hey guys sorry to just barge in when I'm a HTC incredible s User. I'm just. Thinking Sony for my next phone. Do you recomend it? Also are they easy to unlock , root etc
Cheers
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james1196 said:
Hey guys sorry to just barge in when I'm a HTC incredible s User. I'm just. Thinking Sony for my next phone. Do you recomend it? Also are they easy to unlock , root etc
Cheers
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Yeah, sonyvdrvice is easy to unlock, there many root workarounds in the forums, and good roms, BUT beware of the slow update and they just abandon even the flagship phone a year before the current year...
But still... FXP Team is there to support whatever sony phone you'll buy...
My xperia arc s is running fxp cm9 which im using to reply to this thread... lol...!
soybi
soybi said:
Yeah, sonyvdrvice is easy to unlock, there many root workarounds in the forums, and good roms, BUT beware of the slow update and they just abandon even the flagship phone a year before the current year...
But still... FXP Team is there to support whatever sony phone you'll buy...
My xperia arc s is running fxp cm9 which im using to reply to this thread... lol...!
soybi
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Cheers for reply. Well my incS is still alive. Getting old but we are getting new stuff.
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Brain droppings.
Illustrator - Sent from my Arc S.
Hello everyone,
the moderating team assigned to your forum has decided to no longer allow any offtopic threads whether those were previously sanctioned by moderators or not.
We have come to this decision due to the fact that those threads offer absolutely nothing to the device specific forum or to development in general.
After all the name of the site is xda-developers.
If you feel the urge to engage in any offtopic discussion, the offtopic forum is always at your disposal.
As such, this thread is now closed.
Please understand that this decision was made only to streamline the forums and to enhance the user experience.
Thanks for your understanding and cooperation,
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Welcome to Xperia Z OFF TOPIC Thread!
You are able to say anything and discuss anything as long as it does not violate XDA RULES
The thread was made to keep the section clean of off topic threads and have fun!
Let's start!
Hey all, what are you all doing? Excited about Xperia Z?
Yes very preordered and scanning the web for news
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So my current device now is the wildfire buzz from htc ... I was going to sell it but after installing (cm9) on it I had second thoughts (thanks to xda-developers )
any way that's not my question ... my question is ( I want to get another mobile and I want it to be one of a kind so I was thinking to get the new iPhone 5 and I was very convinced .. until I saw that magnificent device the Xperia Z and now I'm puzzled .. what should I do ... go with this magnificent android device or try the IOS device that have a lot of people using it right now and saying that it will last for a long time with no problems)
So the bottom line is ... what's your professional opinion about this problem???
sorry for the long replay :fingers-crossed:
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hunt7000 said:
I want to get another mobile and I want it to be one of a kind so I was thinking to get the new iPhone 5 and I was very convinced .. until I saw that magnificent device the Xperia Z and now I'm puzzled .. what should I do ... go with this magnificent android device or try the IOS device that have a lot of people using it right now and saying that it will last for a long time with no problems:fingers-crossed:
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Well the Xperia Z and The iPhone 5 are very different in many ways but the biggest is clearly the OS... Android vs iOS. Well in my opinion Android is the better one but that is my opinion... Everyone has its own taste in smartphones so go to the next shop and test some of the newest android devices and then the iPhone 5, watch some comparison videos, read some articles about it, etc.
On the hardware side there are some big differences aswell:
Snapdragon S4 Pro Quad-Core chip for the Xperia Z and Apples A6 Dual-Core Chip for the iPhone
1Gb Ram iPhone vs 2Gb Xperia Z
4" Retina Display with 326ppi on the iPhone vs 5" Full HD 420ppi Xperia Z
Both are pretty awesome devices... So either way you go, you can't go wrong
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hunt7000 said:
So my current device now is the wildfire buzz from htc ... I was going to sell it but after installing (cm9) on it I had second thoughts (thanks to xda-developers )
any way that's not my question ... my question is ( I want to get another mobile and I want it to be one of a kind so I was thinking to get the new iPhone 5 and I was very convinced .. until I saw that magnificent device the Xperia Z and now I'm puzzled .. what should I do ... go with this magnificent android device or try the IOS device that have a lot of people using it right now and saying that it will last for a long time with no problems)
So the bottom line is ... what's your professional opinion about this problem???
sorry for the long replay :fingers-crossed:
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In my opinion, iPhone was the best in like 2 years ago. After I do root, ul boot loader, install ROMs and port ROMs etc... I will never leave my android... it is up to you whether to choose what but I suggest Xperia Z.
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It is a great idea of making an Off Topic thread so Moderaters does not need to delete again and again... And will keep the forum clean .
Hello everyone,
the moderating team assigned to your forum has decided to no longer allow any offtopic threads whether those were previously sanctioned by moderators or not.
We have come to this decision due to the fact that those threads offer absolutely nothing to the device specific forum or to development in general.
After all the name of the site is xda-developers.
If you feel the urge to engage in any offtopic discussion, the offtopic forum is always at your disposal.
As such, this thread is now closed.
Please understand that this decision was made only to streamline the forums and to enhance the user experience.
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Hello
I'm thinking of moving to htc one coming from an s3. I need your input regarding this, I'm tired of Samsung lags and plastic feeling of the phone. .they are all the same plastic....s3 s4 note 3..all plastic.. doesn't have the premium feel it is suppose to..
Anyone that come from an s2 or s3 or s4 to Htc one can give me his input regarding how sense5.0 is, how does the phone works, the screen, the battery its not removable (I don't like this deal)
Please give me some advises. ..you dont have multi windows on htc one, right?
Any help or advice is appreciated
Thnaks
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Mate to be honest, i have couple of friends that moved from S4 to ONE, just by looking at me and my ONE... It is the best phone at the time, and you have always a AOSP build that will have (soon i hope) the split window capability.. The rest is flawless
In my opinion, the HTC One is the hottest piece of mobile hardware in the world right now. It just won the mobile award of the year. The developer support for the One is tremendous. The XDA devs love it. That's more than enough to make any sensible person turn from any other device. I mean, like seriously, most of the XDA devs use it as their daily driver and/or primary development device. Just have a look at the main portal and you'll see that most articles feature the One.
However, the best answer is to figure it out yourself. Just go to youtube and watch some reviews. Search "htc one vs s3" and "htc one vs s4" and "htc one vs anything". Watch these reviews from a couple of different uploaders, so you'll get a broader point of view.
Hi,
We don't allow device comparison/suggestion threads as there are plenty of threads for such discussions in the General forums.
Please direct your question to the device suggestion thread or just search for the answers to your questions.
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