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Bad news !!! Yamaha codec

Supercurio has confirmed that GNote has Yamaha audio codec , same as in galaxy note
Audio:
Codec: Yamaha C1YMU823 / MC-1N2 (Same as Samsung Galaxy S II)
FM radio receiver: Si4709 (Same as Samsung Galaxy S/Galaxy S II)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OSYgjDzPVaxzUIEOrc1RrPL2sWLJ5PziyEVt6Q7KeUs/edit?pli=1
This also appeared in engadget

I guess I came late to the party. Please explain what's wrong with it?
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calin75 said:
I guess I came late to the party. Please explain what's wrong with it?
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Yes, I'd like to know also. If it's just a music sound thing, it isn't a problem for me, I don't use it for music, but I know many do.

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This is actually a long story but in short
The Galaxy S II uses Yamaha audio hardware. The Galaxy S II's predecessor, the original Galaxy S, used Wolfson's WM8994 DAC.
Galaxy SI has wolfson codec , which was open source.
Supercurio a well known developer and audio expert here in XDA was able to create good sound output using his voodoo app.
In galaxy SII samsung replaced wolfson with yamaha and this was closed source.
The sound quality for audiophiles using galaxy sII was terrible. ( not to my ears as I am a certified non-audiophile )
Being closed source no further development was possible.
IN the words of supercurio "
DAC Distortion
With today’s Android audio implementation, all kind of media are sent to the DAC as a 44100 / 16bit / Stereo stream. Despite the usage of a fixed rate, Yamaha’s codec is not able to provide a very clean output.
Galaxy S II DAC output quality is limited by several kind of distortions. So far, no firmware was able to fix those despite early Korean updates describing “audio clarity improvements”.
When playing music, those artifacts are perceived as “lack of clarity”, “reduction of stereo separation”, “loss of detail” and “lifeless sound” (opposite of lively)."
The good news is that with new firmware releases many people have said that the sound quality of Galaxy SII is much better. So i guess its going to be better in GNote.
However we wont get Voodoo sounds improvements.
You can see the links below for more detail
http://project-voodoo.org/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053978
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.controlappdonate&feature=search_result

Isn't there a chance that the kernel/software might be slightly different and will fix the issue?
Besides I've got my hand on for few minutes and I didn't pickup anything being wrong with the sound quality. However I didn't have a chance to plug in my headphones so I might be wrong.

Fast answer
yamaha dac is pure crap if you listen music in headphones over 10€
GS2 + note = yamaha dac, so if you want to listen music with a little quality you need a dedicated mp3, the phone will not be suitable for that.

kersh said:
Fast answer
yamaha dac is pure crap if you listen music in headphones over 10€
GS2 + note = yamaha dac, so if you want to listen music with a little quality you need a dedicated mp3, the phone will not be suitable for that.
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I see no problem with the sound thru headphones.
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Honestly, supercurio must have super ears, cause i've been using my sgs2 as my primary mp3 for 6 months already and I have no complaints. But dude, thanks for ruin it for me. I won't see my sgs2 the same again. =(
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calin75 said:
Honestly, supercurio must have super ears, cause i've been using my sgs2 as my primary mp3 for 6 months already and I have no complaints. But dude, thanks for ruin it for me. I won't see my sgs2 the same again. =(
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Lol, there are no facts, only interpretations. BTW Yamaha produces great electric pianos. Don't see how this is relevant but lol, maybe it helps to restore your hardware

For me the included white head set is worse than the SGS2 one (less bass) but when comparing with the SGS2 headset the sound of the Note seems better as the SGS2.
Especially the noise when scrolling lists and so on is gone for me. In combination with Poweramp as player I'm quite satisfied with the sound.

Niuseek said:
Isn't there a chance that the kernel/software might be slightly different and will fix the issue?
Besides I've got my hand on for few minutes and I didn't pickup anything being wrong with the sound quality. However I didn't have a chance to plug in my headphones so I might be wrong.
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No need to fix if the sound is OK. Improvement/fix comes to something that is not good enough.

They're not that bad despite the dramatic title that this thread has
You do however need to pair it up with a good earbud/iem to get a lot out of it.
Currently i'm using phonak iems with the GS2 and it's been awesome experience so far

Unfortunately with a good pair of full sized cans, the difference is very noticeable.
Guess I will be skipping this phone. Pity... I was looking for an XL phone. Looks like its Galaxy Nexus or something from 2012 for me.
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sauron0101 said:
Unfortunately with a good pair of full sized cans, the difference is very noticeable.
Guess I will be skipping this phone. Pity... I was looking for an XL phone. Looks like its Galaxy Nexus or something from 2012 for me.
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um good pair of full size will make a difference in just about any mobile device. Even a voodoo'd SGS1 won't be able to drive a quality set of cans like akg701/702 or hd800

Sound on video record is better than sgs2. A big point.

A bit unrelated but I'd like to see integrated stereo speakers on such phones.
I remember some Nokia that had a quite great set of speakers turning them into a decent mini jukebox.
Use this size more Samsung!

For those non satisfied with the Yamaha DAC, why not investing in a high end Bluetooth headphone ?
Here you would not pass through the DAC of the Note but through the DAC of the headphone supposedly better...
I think that the note is capable of streaming audio with the Bluetooth connection.

DJKick_fr said:
For those non satisfied with the Yamaha DAC, why not investing in a high end Bluetooth headphone ?
Here you would not pass through the DAC of the Note but through the DAC of the headphone supposedly better...
I think that the note is capable of streaming audio with the Bluetooth connection.
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Because there are not high end bt headphones with quality comparable as good iems.

Yes there are some, for example from Sennheiser but they are not cheap.
Anyway, one that says that there are noticeable differences without a good quality headphone is really making a subjective statement, since the non linearity and signal to noise ratio on an average headset even intra ears is usually horrible.
Even the best audiophile headphones have a THD that is only 0.02% at 1 kHz (about 74 dB). This is by far worse than even the crappiest DACs (some have less than 90 dB but the best ones have >100 dB THD).
Knowing this, in the combination DAC+Heaadphone, it is really the headphone that makes the difference in sound. The DAC non idealities are orders of magnitude below the headphone non idealities.

The Sound Quality discussion thread

Lets talk about Sound Quality, DAC, amp, and alike here...

Wolfson DAC confirmed by Supercurio.
Audio codec:
Wolfson Micro WM1811
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.
Audio driver configuration & policy implementation based on TinyUCM (/etc/tinyucm.conf)
Probable subset of TinyHAL implementing codec configuration in config files instead of having everything hardcoded in ROM or kernel driver at compile time.
Native sampling rate: 44100 Hz. It means music played will be sent as-is to the DAC instead of being processed by a software up-sampling routine as it is on Galaxy Nexus or other devices with codecs accepting only 48000 Hz.
AWESOME.

Hopefully the U.S. variants will have this as well

NZtechfreak said:
Wolfson DAC confirmed by Supercurio.
Audio codec:
Wolfson Micro WM1811
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.
Audio driver configuration & policy implementation based on TinyUCM (/etc/tinyucm.conf)
Probable subset of TinyHAL implementing codec configuration in config files instead of having everything hardcoded in ROM or kernel driver at compile time.
Native sampling rate: 44100 Hz. It means music played will be sent as-is to the DAC instead of being processed by a software up-sampling routine as it is on Galaxy Nexus or other devices with codecs accepting only 48000 Hz.
AWESOME.
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Voodoo App Pro confirmed?!?

ombranera said:
Voodoo App Pro confirmed?!?
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As a matter of fact, yes - just a few moments ago Supercurio typed this into his internals report document (which you can watch live):
"Confirmed Voodoo Sound capable "
---------- Post added at 01:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:05 PM ----------
Now Supercurio just wrote this: "USB Audio snd-usb-audio usb class audio driver present. Might work, might not".

This is probably the only reason I might consider s3.
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This is probably the only reason I might consider s3.
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Same here. Damn it.

Hi there!
So I'm not the only one happy with the promising audio codec in Galaxy S III ?

supercurio said:
Hi there!
So I'm not the only one happy with the promising audio codec in Galaxy S III ?
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Maybe a noob question.. Is the DAC as good as the S1 or better.. Coz This seems to be the only reason to move to the S3..

ivAnash said:
Maybe a noob question.. Is the DAC as good as the S1 or better.. Coz This seems to be the only reason to move to the S3..
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See above, I quoted Supercurio as saying he expects the same audio performance as the S1 (of course if USB Audio works then we can have even better quality).

ivAnash said:
Maybe a noob question.. Is the DAC as good as the S1 or better.. Coz This seems to be the only reason to move to the S3..
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its better than s1 as per the spec sheet posted by supercurio ...

s3 is sounding much better to my ears after reading this..

It sounds like someone is listening upstairs

bala_gamer said:
its better than s1 as per the spec sheet posted by supercurio ...
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Ya.. That's something encouraging..

supercurio said:
Hi there!
So I'm not the only one happy with the promising audio codec in Galaxy S III ?
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Hell NO!! It is the reason I will consider buying this phone and have high Hopes for the Note II if I wait for that instead. If the SGS II had not been so much better than the in many ways flawed Captivate I would still be using it for the DAC and your app.

I'm liking what I'm hearing about this DAC. I didn't mind the EVO's, but if the SIII's is this nice, I'll probably buy a 64GB SD just to load on FLAC's.

I hope the speaker in the back is loud..
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Yes atlast a Woflson! Happy days are back again!

Will this mean proper recording as well?
The SGS2 is again extremely disappointing in that area, think I remember the sgs1 was good after the voodoo app so hopefully one can finally make a decent recording at concerts with the sgs3...
Meh, not too impressed by the s3 but it does have some nice improvements over the sgs2.

Is this mean that this audit hardware is the same or better than iPhone 4S?
I used to owned Samsung Galaxy Note, but sold it because the audio quality is much worse compared to my iPhone, especially when i plugged it into AUX in the Car.
Please advised.

US variant of the GS3 uses Qualcomm's WCD9310 for audio, not the Wolfson

Not sure if that's already been posted.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/vmzl9/us_variant_of_the_gs3_uses_qualcomms_wcd9310_for/

That's odd. Engadget tested the audio on the US version and commented that it's impressive. Another member here found it amazing with only the supplied headphones. So I am pretty sure it's a Wolfson. But if this turns out to be the Qualcomm chip, I think it will be a deal breaker for many members here.

You know they have their own section now right? And yes it has been posted a few times already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1667

Its not wolfson.
Confirmed AGAIN by supercurio.
It's using onboard dac.
He's gonna look into voodoo sound for it though.
https://mobile.twitter.com/supercurio/status/217631114334973952
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nativestranger said:
That's odd. Engadget tested the audio on the US version and commented that it's impressive. Another member here found it amazing with only the supplied headphones. So I am pretty sure it's a Wolfson. But if this turns out to be the Qualcomm chip, I think it will be a deal breaker for many members here.
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Not having a Wolfson chip doesn't mean the sound quality will be bad - this isn't Galaxy S II Yamaha levels of doom & gloom. Other Snapdragon S4 devices like the HTC One S have tested very well for audio quality and response (Amusingly much better than HTC's flagship One X with its Tegra 3 onboard audio - Beats branding really is a sham), so I can't imagine the US SIII variants will be any different.
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Not having a Wolfson chip doesn't mean the sound quality will be bad - this isn't Galaxy S II Yamaha levels of doom & gloom. Other Snapdragon S4 devices like the HTC One S have tested very well for audio quality and response (Amusingly much better than HTC's flagship One X with its Tegra 3 onboard audio - Beats branding really is a sham), so I can't imagine the US SIII variants will be any different.
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Well said.

onslaught86 said:
Not having a Wolfson chip doesn't mean the sound quality will be bad - this isn't Galaxy S II Yamaha levels of doom & gloom. Other Snapdragon S4 devices like the HTC One S have tested very well for audio quality and response (Amusingly much better than HTC's flagship One X with its Tegra 3 onboard audio - Beats branding really is a sham), so I can't imagine the US SIII variants will be any different.
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Yes, but that's not where the disappointment comes from. The disappointment comes from a developer knowing a type of hardware, Supercurio with the Wolfson DACs, and has extensive study of how to optimize it already even before its release. And not having the DAC makes a big delay in any kind of professional support for it.
$0.02

I LITERALLY don't know if the i747m S3 that I use has a Wolfson DAC. That's all.

Wolfson audio chip - Will the Galaxy S4 have it?

So i was just wondering if Galaxy S4 will have the Wolfson audio chip in it? I remember from Note 2 that the speakers quality was outstanding for my ears from a phone. Now i have iPhone 5 and its speaker is really good too. Anyone here know will S4 have it?

SaneQ said:
So i was just wondering if Galaxy S4 will have the Wolfson audio chip in it?
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Pretty sure the snapdragon 600 variant GS4 will come with Qualcomm's own audio chip, perhaps the same one found in my US GS3 (WCD9310).
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illmatic24 said:
Pretty sure the snapdragon 600 variant GS4 will come with Qualcomm's own audio chip, perhaps the same one found in my US GS3 (WCD9310).
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Yes, confirmed by @supercurio.
No details about the Exynos version yet.

hot_spare said:
Yes, confirmed by @supercurio.
No details about the Exynos version yet.
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I don't think we needed confirming that Qualcomms own SOC uses its own DAC lol... especially considering this has been the case for every SOC it has made.
As far as the E5... we will have to see. It is either a Wolfson or a Yamaha. Depending on which it will either sound better or worse then the Qualcomm one.

illmatic24 said:
Pretty sure the snapdragon 600 variant GS4 will come with Qualcomm's own audio chip, perhaps the same one found in my US GS3 (WCD9310).
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And how good is that compared to Wolfson etc? Good enough?
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Maedhros said:
I don't think we needed confirming that Qualcomms own SOC uses its own DAC lol... especially considering this has been the case for every SOC it has made.
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I could be wrong, or maybe I misinterpreted the leaked data sheets and other info, but, AFAIK the WCD9310 is a discrete chip, as used with the MSM8960 in ATT HTC OneX LTE, OneS and Evo 4g LTE. (And I guess US GS3 ?)
Yes, the chip may have some "special Qualcomm connections" with the AP/SOC. but still a separate chip.
Is Qualcomm now integrating WCD93xx or whatever internally, inside the physical SOC now ?
I urge caution when reading some Qualcomm press releases and mini document blurbs. Read them literally and you'd think their WCN36xx BT/WiFi/FM combo chips are physically inside the SOC, but they aren't, they just have super special high speed Qualcomm connections that puts part of the (WiFi/BT baseband ?) functionality inside the SOC, with the RF stuff in the 3660/3680 chip.
Anytime a chip is external, of course, there's a possibility the phone OEM didn't go with the all Qualcomm chip reference design. Same with the combo chips where it seems Broadcom remains king. The Qualcomm WCN36xx has missed many major design wins now, despite the huge popularity of the high end Qualcomm SOCs, and it's close integration with same.

This kills me as I live in the US and now I will be stuck with the lame Qualcomm audio. I still am using a Nexus S because I refuse to upgrade to a phone unless it has a Wolfson audio chip.
Being a loyal Galaxy phone user, it's really offensive that Samsung goes cheap with the US versions.

dman777 said:
This kills me as I live in the US and now I will be stuck with the lame Qualcomm audio. I still am using a Nexus S because I refuse to upgrade to a phone unless it has a Wolfson audio chip.
Being a loyal Galaxy phone user, it's really offensive that Samsung goes cheap with the US versions.
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I don't think they went "cheap", and the audio in Qualcomm-based handsets isn't really that bad at all. I have an HTC Vivid and the audio sounds fine. I think their main focus was LTE connectivity when choosing Qualcomm chips for the US market.
I do understand what you mean by wanting top-quality audio though. But the audio quality isn't "bad" by any means. Don't let that dissuade you from enjoying what looks to be a great phone.
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And how good is that compared to Wolfson etc? Good enough?
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It's the same DAC used by the DNA/Butterfly and One. It's scored well. The difference being the HTC devices have h/w amplifiers. So sound quality should be the same but loudness may vary.
GSMArena on the One...
The HTC One audio output is almost identical to that of the HTC Butterfly, which is great news really as the former HTC flagship really aced our audio quality test. In fact the two Beats-powered smartphones offer arguably the best audio quality in the smartphone world right now.
The HTC One did great in the active external amplifier part of the test, posting great scores all over the field. In addition it had volume levels higher than all of its direct competitors, save for the aforementioned HTC Butterfly, which it only matched.
More impressively, there's next to no degradation when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk rises a tiny bit, but that's the only affected reading. Volume levels remain at the same high level, too. This is the second smartphone in a row where HTC makes the Beats audio logo stand for something other than a simple equalizer, but as we said last time, the wait was probably worth it.​
N2 with Wolfson for comparison...

Well the USA device foes cost about 150 less compared to the international version.
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Nexus 10 (exynos 5250)uses Wolfson DAC,so there is a chance that s4(exynos 5410) will also use WolfsonDAC
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i9100g user said:
Nexus 10 (exynos 5250)uses Wolfson DAC,so there is a chance that s4(exynos 5410) will also use WolfsonDAC
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That's quite a reassuring news. I just hope they won't jinx it with Yamaha.

Galaxy S4 uses Wolfson WM5102
François Simond ‏@supercurio 4h
Thanks to a #VoodooReport sent by @Faryaab I can confirm #GalaxyS4 GT-I9500 uses very high specs @wolfsonmicro WM5102
https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/315952191812820992
https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/315953474363858945

"with a catch"
There's always a catch
I hope supercurio can convince Samsung to fix it.

The wolfson audio chip has become more like a myth. The usa s3 didnt have it but still its audio quality was superb.
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persheshhater said:
The wolfson audio chip has become more like a myth. The usa s3 didnt have it but still its audio quality was superb.
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Well, the audio chip in the latest Snapdragons is very good. Its just that, according to audio experts (supercurio!!!) Wolfson DAC is a bit better than the Snapdragon/Krait one!! Both are better than the Yamaha turd !!
Its all relative you see !!

sukant08 said:
Well, the audio chip in the latest Snapdragons is very good. Its just that, according to audio experts (supercurio!!!) Wolfson DAC is a bit better than the Snapdragon/Krait one!! Both are better than the Yamaha turd !!
Its all relative you see !!
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Maybe but even if it wasnt of course supercurio would still say wolfson is a bit better(conflict of interest.)
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Reported on another thread GT-I9500 uses Wolfson WM5102, from a VoodooReport sent to supercurio.
IMO we still don't know GT-I9505 for sure. Could be same Wolfson, could be Qualcomm, or something else (doubtful).

Read the published stats. No Snapdragon has ever got better than 80ish S/N, while Wolfson/Samsung is about 90, about the same as Apple.
From Wikipedia:
The 16-bit compact disc has a theoretical dynamic range of about 96 dB[11] (or about 98 dB for sinusoidal signals, per the formula[10]). Digital audio with 20-bit digitization is theoretically capable of 120 dB dynamic range; similarly, 24-bit digital audio calculates to 144 dB dynamic range.[7] All digital audio recording and playback chains include input and output converters and associated analog circuitry, significantly limiting practical dynamic range. Observed 16-bit digital audio dynamic range is about 90 dB.[11]

Galaxy S5 sound quality

For those that sound quality through earphones is very important
I9300XXUGNA5, Boeffla 5.2, Earsonics SM3v2

Does anybody know which DAC comes with the S5? Is it a Wolfson?
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Agaranda said:
Does anybody know which DAC comes with the S5? Is it a Wolfson?
I9300XXUGNA5, Boeffla 5.2, Earsonics SM3v2
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If the SOC is Qualcomm, the answer is no.

The traditional question is whether the Exynos and Snapdragon versions will use different DACs and, if so, which ones.
Will we ever see the fruits of the deal that Samsung signed with Wolfson?

Exynos is pretty much guaranteed to carry Wolfson. Qualcomm uses their own DAC in their soc's. If it's anything like the s4 Qualcomm vs Exynos situation then they should both be excellent. Most audiophiles hardly hear a difference between the two. The real advantage of Wolfson comes with audio mods
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With the S5 being water resistant, I wonder if it will effect the loud speaker? Will it make it sound more muffled?
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busab said:
With the S5 being water resistant, I wonder if it will effect the loud speaker? Will it make it sound more muffled?
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You bring up a good point and this too is one my concerns, based on every other water resistant device released, loud speaker quality and loudness has been s***. With the HTC M8 releasing with supposedly upgraded BoomSound, it would be counterintuitive for Samsung to further themselves from the quality of HTC's speakers just to provide water resistance.
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It seems like Samsung could do themselves and us a favor and make the Exynos compatible with USA LTE carriers and give us all the Wolfson DAC.

The S5 will not feature the best sound repoduction available for music, thats pretty sure, but I'm primarily interested in listening through headphones in which case the choice of which headphone to use contributes to like 95% of the sound quality obtained.
The Qualcomm chipset will have reasonably low noise and distorsion and ok ability to drive phones, its no Wolfson, but it wont exactly cripple a pair of good cans. Not so good cans will always sound inferior on ANY phone. And all the rivals use Qualcomm as well so S5 will only be worse than it's own kin and Iphone. HTCs Beats I can totally live without as I am all in for natural sound ie HiFi ie no coloring of the source. Beats is ALL coloring the source, some like it but I don't.
Rooting will probably be necessary though, to unlock the max volume restriction.
I would have liked a dedicated solution, but I can live with the SOC ....

MultiLockOn said:
Exynos is pretty much guaranteed to carry Wolfson. Qualcomm uses their own DAC in their soc's. If it's anything like the s4 Qualcomm vs Exynos situation then they should both be excellent. Most audiophiles hardly hear a difference between the two. The real advantage of Wolfson comes with audio mods
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no its not guaranteed , Note 3 with Exynos use Yamaha DAC :|

yahyoh said:
no its not guaranteed , Note 3 with Exynos use Yamaha DAC :|
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LoL I guess the Qualcomm SOC at least has better sound than those Yamaha DAC:s

xeizo said:
LoL I guess the Qualcomm SOC at least has better sound than those Yamaha DAC:s
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yeah newer Qcom DAC's are not that bad actually

busab said:
With the S5 being water resistant, I wonder if it will effect the loud speaker? Will it make it sound more muffled?
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If it's as good as the speaker on the S4 active then it should be fine as that's pretty loud

RCJ89 said:
If it's as good as the speaker on the S4 active then it should be fine as that's pretty loud
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Since the S4 Active was never released in Canada, I have never had a chance to try it out. How does the speaker compare to the regular S4?
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msavic6 said:
Since the S4 Active was never released in Canada, I have never had a chance to try it out. How does the speaker compare to the regular S4?
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Oh right, no worries. well I had the s4 and my gf has the active and the active is louder both speaker and in headphones

BaronInkjet said:
If the SOC is Qualcomm, the answer is no.
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oh. i thought the note 3 had one lol

RCJ89 said:
Oh right, no worries. well I had the s4 and my gf has the active and the active is louder both speaker and in headphones
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Well, that's good to hear, I know my dad's Z1 speaker sounds like absolute garbage when compared to the S4.
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msavic6 said:
Well, that's good to hear, I know my dad's Z1 speaker sounds like absolute garbage when compared to the S4.
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Fingers crossed the s5 is as good

I tried a Galaxy S5 for four days.
Sound quality trough earphones is worse, by far, than it is with the S3 plus Boeffla.
Returned.
I9300XXUGNA5, Boeffla 5.2, Earsonics SM3v2

Is apt-x confirmed at least?
I use my sennheiser apt-x headphones or hs3000 in the main with my s3 so that circumvents the problem a little