My wife recently bought a Galaxy Tab 7.7 and now after some hours of experience she has some questions:
1. When you turn off the sound it doesn't turn off everything, sounds on webpages still plays.
2. The screen unlock pattern is in the same place so it's easy to see it because of the grease the finger is leaving behind.
3. When you want to edit text in the web browser, for instance in a forum like this, and you put the marker where you want to start edit, the marker jumps 1 or more letters efter about one second. It's not a miss click, because you can see that the marker is in the correct place when you remove your finger, and then after about one seconde it jumps to another place. Extremely annoying.
4. Honeycomb does not utilise the screen size, it seems like it's made for a smaller phone with lesser resolution. Reminders and other notifications is easily missed. Text is also extremly small sometimes and even though you can read it, it's very hard to put the marker in the right spot, if you want to mark and copy a text for instance.
5. Reminders from the calendar is to discreet, it should be something that you have to turn off manually so you dont miss it.
6. Can you create a shortcut to a file on the startscreen/desktop?
7. The clock doesn't show when you make a call so you can't check the time
8. The screen locks itself quickly when you make a call, in like 10 s, even though you have set it on 5 mins. Very annoying when you want to check things on the pad during a call.
9. Adding a new phone number to a contact is very unlogical, and it takes alot of steps. Why not just have, "add phone number to contact" when you have marked the number??
10. You can't set the timer on an certain amount of hours and/or min, just a time?
11. I can't write é and ü which is used sometimes in my language, the signs ¨ and ´ just doesn't exist. But a ton of smiliys do...strange choice by Google/Samsung.... (yes, I have the local version of the OS)
12. Then it's the browser:
* You can't move tabs
* Tabs has to reload when you switch between them
* Very long procedure to add a bookmark
* You can't sort the bookmarks the way you want.
13. The music player can't do shuffle
This was just the most important things, then it's alot of other annoying things that doesn't work correctly and that are just illogical.
Overall it doesn't seem like a product that is ready for selling, If this was a computer OS it would've been called version 0.1 alfa.
If you have any tips or apps that solve the above listed things, please post here. My wife would be super happy.
I m sorry to say. All of the above can be done/customize... u just haven't look in the right place or download the right Apps..... I guess it's your first smartphone.
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No, I've owned an Iphone, which had none of these issues.
But please give me some tips and hints, because I've looked around and have found nothing.
1) You need to turn down the media volume whilst in the browser.
2. Obviously clean the screen more often, what do you expect?
3. Its a bug with no fix. ICS should fix this.
4. With apps in general? Because ICS has started a trend for better resolution support. With notifications I suggest getting glasses. Also in the themes and apps forum there is an app to increase font size called Big Font.
5. That defeats the point of a reminder.
6. No but some custom launchers like go launcher provide this option.
7. I have a wifI only version so no idea. But the clock should always stay in the bottom bar.
8. Its meant to be this way. Its a feature from smartphones. It stops your face pressing buttons on the screen when you put the speaker grill to your ear.
9. No comment.
10. For the clock/alarm app?
11. Hold the letter e (é) and u (ü) down on the Samsung keyboard.
12. The play store offers alternative browsers like opera and dolphin hd, try some.
13. ICS upgrade should fix this. But again use the play store to find alternatives.
Honeycomb is buggy, numerous reviews have stated this. The ICS upgrade is set to fix most of these issues and provide a better overall experience. The ICS upgrade is meant to be set for May.
Its not meant to be a computer. Its meant to be be a media consumption device. You've come from an iphone which is simple. Android just takes times to get used too. You probably would have been better off with am ipad. Android tablets just aren't there yet.
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ZacAttack said:
1) You need to turn down the media volume whilst in the browser.
Ok, but you have to agree with me that when you put the phone in silent, it should be completely silent.
2. Obviously clean the screen more often, what do you expect?
It becomes a mark after every time you log in. If they'd just had the grid in different places it wouldn't be a problem.
3. Its a bug with no fix. ICS should fix this.
I have big hopes for ICS
4. With apps in general? Because ICS has started a trend for better resolution support. With notifications I suggest getting glasses. Also in the themes and apps forum there is an app to increase font size called Big Font.
Mostly the webbrowser, even though you zoom max, it's very small text, and it's hard to highlight words. I will try Dolphin more extensively.
5. That defeats the point of a reminder.
It's just that you should have better options for the sound level (now it's a bearaly audiable "ding" or something), and it should also be a pop-up window or with a OK-button or so.
6. No but some custom launchers like go launcher provide this option.
Ok, will try that.
7. I have a wifI only version so no idea. But the clock should always stay in the bottom bar.
It doesn't, you have to go back to home screen to see the clock.
8. Its meant to be this way. Its a feature from smartphones. It stops your face pressing buttons on the screen when you put the speaker grill to your ear.
Well, it should be an option to turn it off since this is a 7.7 inch tablet and mostly you will use a headset.
9. No comment.
10. For the clock/alarm app?
11. Hold the letter e (é) and u (ü) down on the Samsung keyboard.
Thanks!
12. The play store offers alternative browsers like opera and dolphin hd, try some.
Will do!
13. ICS upgrade should fix this. But again use the play store to find alternatives.
Again, I have big hopes for ICS
Honeycomb is buggy, numerous reviews have stated this. The ICS upgrade is set to fix most of these issues and provide a better overall experience. The ICS upgrade is meant to be set for May.
Can't wait!
Its not meant to be a computer. Its meant to be be a media consumption device. You've come from an iphone which is simple. Android just takes times to get used too. You probably would have been better off with am ipad. Android tablets just aren't there yet.
I know, but they certainly have the hardware for it, they just don't use it properly.
If Apple had an ~7 inch tablet from which you could make calls, I would've probably bought that.
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Open the phone app (not the mini dialer)
Logs - Long press a caller number- Add to contacts.
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9. Adding a new phone number to a contact is very unlogical, and it takes alot of steps. Why not just have, "add phone number to contact" when you have marked the number??
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"Stopwatch & Timer" from Google Play.
Marquzz said:
10. You can't set the timer on an certain amount of hours and/or min, just a time?
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It becomes a mark after every time you log in. If they'd just had the grid in different places it wouldn't be a problem.
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It will leave finger marks anywhere your grid was anyway, other still can figure your grid shape
So... just clean your screen or consider using password ^^
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Open the phone app (not the mini dialer)
Logs - Long press a caller number- Add to contacts.
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"Stopwatch & Timer" from Google Play.
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No, can't find a option to add the number to a contact you already have, it only creates a new contact. Maybe I'm just stupid, only got 5 years of higher IT education...
What I need to do is choose to edit the phone number, and then add the phone number to a contact that way.
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It will leave finger marks anywhere your grid was anyway, other still can figure your grid shape
So... just clean your screen or consider using password ^^
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Yea, this is just one of those annoying things. If the grid randomly switched place, it could've been much harder to see the pattern. But it's not very important.
It's just that when alot of things annoy you, you just start to get annoyed on other things aswell
Overall she is very happy with the tablet, it's just that it has the potential to be much much better, it's just a matter of software.
This image shows how small text is when you write in a box on a web page (max zoom), it's just hard to put the marker where you want it, if you for instance notice that you have missspelled something:
Marquzz said:
No, can't find a option to add the number to a contact you already have, it only creates a new contact. Maybe I'm just stupid, only got 5 years of higher IT education...
What I need to do is choose to edit the phone number, and then add the phone number to a contact that way.
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Dial the number and press the icon next to the number where you can save it to any existing or new contact.
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Dial the number and press the icon next to the number where you can save it to any existing or new contact.
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Yes, I know it can be done. Just can't understand why a very expensive top of the line smartphone/tablet 2012 just isn't better than this.
I might have answers to some of your questions which I hope could be useful to you:
Marquzz said:
2. The screen unlock pattern is in the same place so it's easy to see it because of the grease the finger is leaving behind.
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As much as I hate to mention, ICS has face recognition unlock feature which doesn't leave any grease mark for James Bond; or if you are the impatient kind like me, you could considering getting the FaceLock for apps Pro (paid app) which as similar phone lock feature for non-ICS Android devices.
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4. Honeycomb does not utilise the screen size, it seems like it's made for a smaller phone with lesser resolution. Reminders and other notifications is easily missed. Text is also extremly small sometimes and even though you can read it, it's very hard to put the marker in the right spot, if you want to mark and copy a text for instance.
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You have multiple questions in one go. XD
First of all you could really re-size the screen size on running application, you could find the corresponding option in the notification bar when the tablet detects it.
Reminders and other notifications is easily missed, yes...but you could try NoLED app, or FaceLock apps Pro I mentioned earlier. (Do not use both, I tried, and miserably failed)
Text can be resized with app like BigFont. I don't use it, as it messed up with the default calendar app (though you can circumvent that with third-party calendar app)
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6. Can you create a shortcut to a file on the startscreen/desktop?
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You could use the Linda File Manager (free app) to create desktop shortcut. In the rare event you would like to create script shortcut (e.g. instant reboot script), you could try SMWidgets.
Marquzz said:
12. Then it's the browser:
* You can't move tabs
* Tabs has to reload when you switch between them
* Very long procedure to add a bookmark
* You can't sort the bookmarks the way you want.
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I use Overskreen (paid app) as my default browser. It can't move tabs, but the tabs doesn't reload when you switch between them (redraw, though). It has additional feature like floating browser, and background processing (such that you could listen to browser's streaming audio while phone is locked)
Yeah adding and sorting bookmarks is still a major harrass, especially when you utilize Google sync bookmark features.
If you like fancy features to impress your friends you could try Dolphin Browser (beta version only, and this version is not found in Play yet): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgC9qaOLmO8
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Overall it doesn't seem like a product that is ready for selling, If this was a computer OS it would've been called version 0.1 alfa.
If you have any tips or apps that solve the above listed things, please post here. My wife would be super happy.
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Trust me, this tablet is the best you can get for business applications. Of course, it is very much depending on your needs.
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No, can't find a option to add the number to a contact you already have, it only creates a new contact. Maybe I'm just stupid, only got 5 years of higher IT education...
What I need to do is choose to edit the phone number, and then add the phone number to a contact that way.
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I take it that you are trying to add a number from inside the phone app to an existing contact?
#1 If you are in Dialer, press the icon to the right of the number and you can either save it as a new contact, or add it to an existing contact.
#2 If you are in Logs, the trick is to long click on the entry in the left pane, select "Edit number before call", which will bring you to the dialer, and you to #1 above, where you can proceed accordingly. (If you select "Add to Contacts", it will be a new contact.*)
#3 Still in Logs, long clicking on the entry itself (on the right) will copy the number to clipboard. Which will allow other possibilities...
*This is peculiar to the Samsung phone app and I agree that they should not have done it this way. It's not how it works in Vanilla ICS on my Galaxy Nexus.
Hope that helps.
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5. Reminders from the calendar is to discreet, it should be something that you have to turn off manually so you dont miss it.
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The Samsung stock calendar is rather basic. Try Business Calendar, which has advanced controls for notifications (include snooze).
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7. The clock doesn't show when you make a call so you can't check the time
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The clock shows on my bottom bar even in a phone call. See attached pic below.
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10. You can't set the timer on an certain amount of hours and/or min, just a time?
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I think Alarm Clock Xtreme can do that.
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12. Then it's the browser:
* You can't move tabs
* Tabs has to reload when you switch between them
* Very long procedure to add a bookmark
* You can't sort the bookmarks the way you want.
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Use Dolphin HD. It solves the first and the last two problems. I'm not sure why but the browser sometimes reloads when you switch on the 7.7--it didn't do so (or do so as much) on either my Galaxy Nexus (ICS) or even on my old HTC HD2 running Android Gingerbread. Might be a Honeycomb thing.
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13. The music player can't do shuffle
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The ICS music player can do shuffle. If you are resourceful, you can install the apk. But again, there are better alternatives out there. For instance, Poweramp and PlayerPro. (I have the ICS player, but eventually settled on Poweramp.)
All the best!
Marquzz said:
Yes, I know it can be done. Just can't understand why a very expensive top of the line smartphone/tablet 2012 just isn't better than this.
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Wow, ok...
1) Open the dialer
2) Enter a number
3) Click the 'add to contact' icon immediately to the right of the number you just entered
4) You are immediately taken to your list of contacts
5) At this point you have 2 options, click 'New" to add a new contact or click on any contact from the list
6) Upon clicking any one of the contacts in your list, that contact is immediately opened and the new number automatically added to the list of phone numbers for that contact...from there you can specify the number type (work, home, mobile, etc.)
I honestly can't imagine a scenario any more intuitive & straight forward than this. Please describe (if you can) what would be 'better than this'?
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7. I have a wifI only version so no idea. But the clock should always stay in the bottom bar.
It doesn't, you have to go back to home screen to see the clock.
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Wrong. The taskbar on the bottom is still there during calls, and the clock is still visible. I'm looking at it right now as I type this.
For someone with 5 years of "IT higher learning", you're not exhibiting much in the way of higher intelligence here in my opinion. You are aware that there's a thing called a search engine, right? Google is kind of a popular one. Millions of people from all over the world have been using Android for several years, and nearly every question/complaint you raised in your original list has been asked, discussed & addressed by someone at some point. Instead of jumping onto a forum and ranting off your list of 'problems', you might want to poke around a bit & see if there's already an answer out there.
1. When you turn off the sound it doesn't turn off everything, sounds on webpages still plays.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.audiowidget&hl=en
2. The screen unlock pattern is in the same place so it's easy to see it because of the grease the finger is leaving behind.
Seriously? Clean the screen frequently; Try a non-glossy screen protector; Use a PIN or a password to unlock the screen rather than a pattern.
3. When you want to edit text in the web browser, for instance in a forum like this, and you put the marker where you want to start edit, the marker jumps 1 or more letters efter about one second. It's not a miss click, because you can see that the marker is in the correct place when you remove your finger, and then after about one seconde it jumps to another place. Extremely annoying.
This is the one item on your list that I would call a real 'problem'. A bluetooth mouse helps if this is something you need to do very often.
4. Honeycomb does not utilise the screen size, it seems like it's made for a smaller phone with lesser resolution. Reminders and other notifications is easily missed. Text is also extremly small sometimes and even though you can read it, it's very hard to put the marker in the right spot, if you want to mark and copy a text for instance.
Honeycomb is a smartphone OS first, and a tablet OS second. ICS bridges that gap much better, but there will always be some compromises. The Android phone market is bigger (much bigger) than the tablet market, so there will always be somewhat of a slant toward smartphone functionality-wise.
5. Reminders from the calendar is to discreet, it should be something that you have to turn off manually so you dont miss it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bitfire.development.calendarsnooze&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5iaXRmaXJlLmRldmVsb3BtZW50LmNhbGVuZGFyc25vb3plIl0.
6. Can you create a shortcut to a file on the startscreen/desktop?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex&feature=search_result
7. The clock doesn't show when you make a call so you can't check the time
Yes, it does.
8. The screen locks itself quickly when you make a call, in like 10 s, even though you have set it on 5 mins. Very annoying when you want to check things on the pad during a call.
This is by design, and another byproduct of honeycomb being a smartphone OS first and a tablet OS second. You may notice that the tablet does have a proximity sensor with related settings. If you make a call and pass your hand over the sensor it will blank the screen...remove your hand and the screen reappears. This mirrors the functionality you'd expect when you put the 'phone' up to your ear..again geared toward how you'd expect a smartphone to work. Honestly, I'm not sure that the target demographic for this tablet will use it as their primary mobile phone all that much. But for those that do, it's a pretty minor inconvenience...so you have to push the power button to get the screen back...just not that big of a deal.
9. Adding a new phone number to a contact is very unlogical, and it takes alot of steps. Why not just have, "add phone number to contact" when you have marked the number??
Wrong. It's very logical and very intuitive. 2 clicks & done.
10. You can't set the timer on an certain amount of hours and/or min, just a time?
Who does this? Why? If you want to wake up 1 hour & 45 minutes later can you not just do some simple math in your brain and set the timer to what the time will be 1 hours & 45 minutes later?
11. I can't write é and ü which is used sometimes in my language, the signs ¨ and ´ just doesn't exist. But a ton of smiliys do...strange choice by Google/Samsung.... (yes, I have the local version of the OS)
Someone already answered this.
12. Then it's the browser:
* You can't move tabs
* Tabs has to reload when you switch between them
* Very long procedure to add a bookmark
* You can't sort the bookmarks the way you want.
Numerous browser options in the play store.
13. The music player can't do shuffle
Numerous music player options in the play store.
This was just the most important things, then it's alot of other annoying things that doesn't work correctly and that are just illogical.
Wrong. In my opinion, you're just lazy. Android is not a kindergarten children's toy like iOS. If that's what you want or need, you should get an Apple. There's a learning curve with Android, but if you invest a bit of time, you will be rewarded with an experience that's ultimately more satisfying than iOS (at least in my opinion).
Overall it doesn't seem like a product that is ready for selling, If this was a computer OS it would've been called version 0.1 alfa.
Return it & buy an Apple.
If you have any tips or apps that solve the above listed things, please post here. My wife would be super happy.
Marquzz said:
My wife recently bought a Galaxy Tab 7.7 and now after some hours of experience she has some questions:
1. When you turn off the sound it doesn't turn off everything, sounds on webpages still plays.
2. The screen unlock pattern is in the same place so it's easy to see it because of the grease the finger is leaving behind.
3. When you want to edit text in the web browser, for instance in a forum like this, and you put the marker where you want to start edit, the marker jumps 1 or more letters efter about one second. It's not a miss click, because you can see that the marker is in the correct place when you remove your finger, and then after about one seconde it jumps to another place. Extremely annoying.
4. Honeycomb does not utilise the screen size, it seems like it's made for a smaller phone with lesser resolution. Reminders and other notifications is easily missed. Text is also extremly small sometimes and even though you can read it, it's very hard to put the marker in the right spot, if you want to mark and copy a text for instance.
5. Reminders from the calendar is to discreet, it should be something that you have to turn off manually so you dont miss it.
6. Can you create a shortcut to a file on the startscreen/desktop?
7. The clock doesn't show when you make a call so you can't check the time
8. The screen locks itself quickly when you make a call, in like 10 s, even though you have set it on 5 mins. Very annoying when you want to check things on the pad during a call.
9. Adding a new phone number to a contact is very unlogical, and it takes alot of steps. Why not just have, "add phone number to contact" when you have marked the number??
10. You can't set the timer on an certain amount of hours and/or min, just a time?
11. I can't write é and ü which is used sometimes in my language, the signs ¨ and ´ just doesn't exist. But a ton of smiliys do...strange choice by Google/Samsung.... (yes, I have the local version of the OS)
12. Then it's the browser:
* You can't move tabs
* Tabs has to reload when you switch between them
* Very long procedure to add a bookmark
* You can't sort the bookmarks the way you want.
13. The music player can't do shuffle
This was just the most important things, then it's alot of other annoying things that doesn't work correctly and that are just illogical.
Overall it doesn't seem like a product that is ready for selling, If this was a computer OS it would've been called version 0.1 alfa.
If you have any tips or apps that solve the above listed things, please post here. My wife would be super happy.
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Yeah, this and so many more "little" things is what makes me hate android. This tablet was my first device and I can safely say I will never buy another android device again. I'll probably get an I pad 4 when it comes out. I'm just sick of finding out more things my tab can't do. Its really dissapointing as the reason I chose this over an I pad was the smaller screen size but its just not worth it
Marquzz said:
My wife recently bought a Galaxy Tab 7.7 and now after some hours of experience she has some questions:
1. When you turn off the sound it doesn't turn off everything, sounds on webpages still plays.
2. The screen unlock pattern is in the same place so it's easy to see it because of the grease the finger is leaving behind.
3. When you want to edit text in the web browser, for instance in a forum like this, and you put the marker where you want to start edit, the marker jumps 1 or more letters efter about one second. It's not a miss click, because you can see that the marker is in the correct place when you remove your finger, and then after about one seconde it jumps to another place. Extremely annoying.
4. Honeycomb does not utilise the screen size, it seems like it's made for a smaller phone with lesser resolution. Reminders and other notifications is easily missed. Text is also extremly small sometimes and even though you can read it, it's very hard to put the marker in the right spot, if you want to mark and copy a text for instance.
5. Reminders from the calendar is to discreet, it should be something that you have to turn off manually so you dont miss it.
6. Can you create a shortcut to a file on the startscreen/desktop?
7. The clock doesn't show when you make a call so you can't check the time
8. The screen locks itself quickly when you make a call, in like 10 s, even though you have set it on 5 mins. Very annoying when you want to check things on the pad during a call.
9. Adding a new phone number to a contact is very unlogical, and it takes alot of steps. Why not just have, "add phone number to contact" when you have marked the number??
10. You can't set the timer on an certain amount of hours and/or min, just a time?
11. I can't write é and ü which is used sometimes in my language, the signs ¨ and ´ just doesn't exist. But a ton of smiliys do...strange choice by Google/Samsung.... (yes, I have the local version of the OS)
12. Then it's the browser:
* You can't move tabs
* Tabs has to reload when you switch between them
* Very long procedure to add a bookmark
* You can't sort the bookmarks the way you want.
13. The music player can't do shuffle
This was just the most important things, then it's alot of other annoying things that doesn't work correctly and that are just illogical.
Overall it doesn't seem like a product that is ready for selling, If this was a computer OS it would've been called version 0.1 alfa.
If you have any tips or apps that solve the above listed things, please post here. My wife would be super happy.
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You can make a similar list of annoyances or personal preferences for any tablet, so such lists are pretty useless for it is always a trade-off between annoyances and delights and for me the delights on the 7.7 far outweigh the annoyances compared to any other tablet. So rather than buy a tablet then whinge about it you should check it out first.
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http://pointui.com/Home.aspx
Its free and looks pretty cool... gonna install it when i get home (no cables here) if anyone has a play before the end of the day i'd appreciate opinions before i do the deed myself!
mark
Well, i gave it a try yesterday on my WM5 wizard.
Its overall look and feel is really quite impressive. All the animations are unbelivably smooth, even without any overclocking. The app is finger-friendly, but i dislike list scrolling method they used - it's not like the one in fTouchflo, or iContact, where you scroll the list as if it was a physical object and moves in sync with the finger sweeping the screen, but instead the list moves in the direction of the sweep: if you put your finger on the screen and move it down a bit, the list will start scrolling down at constant speed. if you move finger farther down, it will accelerate and again keep constant speed if finger is still. if you move finger up, it will slow down, move it u even farther, ant the list will reverse direction and scroll up. It's not very intuitive, not to mention that it's really hard to use to precisely scroll long lists. If they changed this one thing, the overall fell of the program would improve significantly.
Beside that UI is clean and well designed, gives you quick access to start menu, settings (control panel, wifi, BT, GSM module, sound volume), tasks, calendar, appointments and clock, it also has some customizable menus for accessing frequently used software.
The downside is that it replaces your Today screen, so you won't be able to use your favorite Today plugins.
Overall, it's worth a try, especially for a user who just wants a phone with a simple, yet really good-looking interface. More advanced users who like to be able to customize everything might find this a bit limiting.
Overall, the program really has huge potential, and let's not forget that it's just the first public version. It will certainly improve over time. I'd recommend giving it a try, just be aware that there are some uninstallation issues read the tread on pointUI forums for more info, or if you have something like SPB backup or other software that does FULL device backup, use it and if something goes wrong, simply HR the device.
By the way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355961&page=5
Given it a try, and was impressed by the smooth flowing interactive menu's. But I find its quicker and easier to use SPB Shell (yes it looks basic in comparison but its straight forward and easily customised) and have therefore unistalled the software. However do not be put off by my comments, give it a go.
tange.
prior to my phone breaking (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=284 solutions on a postcard please) i used this UI for a few days and throught it was pretty cool. theres deffo a learning curve as some of the apps are located in strange places but overall i was very happy with it.
Impressive, but very bad support for non-English OS.
Give it time. Its a brand new and revolutionary program and those guys are doin it all in their free time so you got to give them time.
I'm running this on my wizard, Tried it and I liked it enough that I won't leave it alone.
Runs fast on my wizard, thumb approved, things are organized a little funny but after a day of using it everything is cool, I haven't looked yet but I would like to custom the 4 icons that lauch programs and some things are linked incorrectly but overall i'm impressed with the program out of box and I hope development keeps up.
i just wanted to ask
does the weather application on PointUI cost... if so.. .does any1 no how much
thanks in advance
weather is free
i think they get their weather info from yahoo/weather channel, free
PontUI
Been using this for 3 days now and I love it. This and pocketCM with a the pontUI skin is amazing. Also the Iphone a like skin works well.
The main screen is great with the middle ribbon allowing really smooth action to access Analogue clock, digital clock, Calender, Tasks, Local weather and appointments.
Main screen top contains from left to right; Lock, signal meter Carrier info, Volume, Battery and Cog (settings).
You can lock the device on lock icon, hit the signal icon and the screen flip animates to show all connections settings (Flight mode, phone status wifi things like that) Hit the Speaker Icaon and you can adjust phone and speaker volumes as well as mute. hit the battery icon (which show bat level) and you can see battery life and go to power settings and backlight settings (well I can't but hey it's a beta) Hit the Cog and too many settings to list but among them is update feature so you can get the latest version straight to your device, you can also exit PontUI Home from here.
You have four icon down the bottom of the main screen which are, left to right; phone icon for call history list, tap it then swipe right on a name to call or sms them. Envelope icon press this to go to your email account (can choose which one through new registry string) next is SMS icon tap it to go to standard SMS app. Then last is the WM Icon, tap to go to windows media player (can choose which one through new registry string).
There is also a bar with an arrow down the bottom which you tap this then gives you four options; New, from which you can create new Email, SMS, MMS, Appointment, task, document or spreadsheet.
Favourites which shows all apps in the start menu folder. Applications which allows to to smoothly scroll through all installed apps and Currently running which does what it says on the tin.
As this App evolves i'm sure these menus will become nicely configurable.
I 'm really loving this App and it's only BETA. I'm running HTC Trinity (orange M700) and it's just sooo smooth. I tried Freestyl, which is good and I've been following, but when I tried this, I was blown away.
It's kind of nice to have an App that seems to integerate well with the phone rather than being a kind of clucky overlay that you can tell isn't meant to be there.
I urge you all to try it and see what you think.
Cheers all.
Logicalstep
loving it
What i think they can improve are:
1 make the hardware buttons to work, now i can't take a picture, record any sound, or change the volume with the h-buttons.
2 a contacts app will be nice and as well a favorite contacts like the htc home
3 a way to close app on the currently running menu
4 a little bigger back button or more to the left cause when i try to pres the back button with the tumb i usually had to try 2 or 3 times couse is really near to the border.
finaly a way to select favorite app that don’t depend of the start menu
don’t get me wrong i think that app is amazing but this 5 thing will make it perfect to me
I am loving Pointui!
and wat are your pros and cons
pros:
nice graphics
touch screen
cons:
notification sounds not loud enough even at highest setting
syncing contacts from outlook
camera can't disable sound
camera need white balance
camera needs 'manual' settings
mute the g1 and there is no more camera sound
Pros
Screen & Resolution
Street View
Touch Screen
3g
Full Keypad
Internet - very fast!
Room for unlimited growth
Cons
Setting wallpaper
No access to storage card
No task manager
no internet sharing
Clock on homescreen
No document viewer
Of course most if not all of my cons will be addressed I'm sure so in short I friggin love this phone and it took me all of 5 minutes to forget my dash!
Pros:
It's BAD ASS!
Cons:
Can be fixed with software
Except the no 3.5 headphone jack WTF HTC?
stats555 said:
Cons
No video player
Can't edit bookmarks
Setting wallpaper
No access to storage card
No task manager
no internet sharing
Clock on homescreen
No document viewer
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Video player is on the market
Wallpapers can be changed out.
accessing card would fall under a file manager, use your computer for now lol
Pros.... what they said
For the most part it is a great phone
Cons
No root access with ADB
No Shell
No File Manager
No SSHD
The fun is great. You have to realized that whatever is missing will be develop in the next couple of months. Now grading android system -> The best phone I've ever had by far, and I have been to lots and lots of Smarts phones....
Addressing some of the cons
Video Player: Available on market, but very, very limited (i miss tcpmp)
Setting Wallpaper: While ur on the Home screen, press the Menu button, wallpaper will be a selectable option
Editing Bookmarks: Open your browser, then press the Menu button, select Bookmarks, on the bookmarks screen, press and hold on the bookmark u want to edit until a screen pops up. Edit bookmark is there.
Clock on Home screen: to move it, just press and hold on the clock until it 'detaches' from the home screen.
to delete it, press and hold until it detaches from the screen then move it to your tab bar which you'll notice changed from an arrow to a trash bin.
to add one, while on the home screen, press the Menu button, select Add, Widget, Clock. then just place it wherever u want.
Something i had an issue with that i posted elsewhere was an rss reader. Google has one on its homepage, ur looking for Reader. Just sign-in and setup your links. Hopefully this'll help some people.
I've got the same pro's and con's as everyone else. I really like this phone much more then my TYTN II. I might have had a bunk TYTN though.
I'm missing the software keyboard, sim contact manager, and file explorer from WM phones though.
Otherwise I'm happy that I drove a long way to get this phone.
Hello fellow G1 users.
Ever since the news about OS came a while back I have been sold on android (well it’s potential).
There is obviously a software shortage… however, the community and google will fill the gaps with time, I think.
One big issue I have the battery capacity.
I would like to hear from you guys/girls:
What have you done to make the battery last longer?
Here are some of the things I have done (currently testing this configuration)
1. Stopped sync on all items….. I only kept calendar (sharing it with my wife)
2. Stopped using the gmail app. Instead I setup all of my email accounts via second email app with all POP (not IMAP <- drains battery like crazy) where I can control frequency with which the app checks mail (10-15 min apart for me).
3. turned off location service from GPS and network towers because I think one these are invoked, they do not turn off
4. Last: the usual…. Screen time out to shortest timeout and screen brightness to lowest comfortable level for me.
misha said:
I would like to hear from you guys/girls:
What have you done to make the battery last longer?
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I never leave home without my charger lol. I walk to the corner store with my charger in my pocket in case lol
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I never leave home without my charger lol. I walk to the corner store with my charger in my pocket in case lol
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I hear you.....
I picked up a second charger yesterday for work so that I can charge it.... if anything.
Pros: pretty good v1 Android OS, nice touch screen, fast (almost no lag), decent 3G speed, pretty good marketplace, room for growth
Cons: no virtual keyboard, need full BT profiles, no desktop sync, no task manager, no file manager, no 3.5mm headphone jack, no video recording
now that i seen everyone elses views time for me
ok i love this phone but i still carry around m dash as a picture/video recorder
the camera on the g1 sucks to me especially on how long it takes to snap
in my opinion my dash takes better pictures.
the battery definately sux nomore words about it lol
we realy do need an onscreen keyboard im starting to get tired of opening the phone to type lol
really wish there was a task manager
now for the good
great phone quaity i can hear anybody so clear
very fast touch screen
very fast internet
i love it just a few minor priblems that i kno google will fix later on, best phone i ever invested money in
its a boring phone! I don't like it. looks oddly shaped. ill stick with my non oddly shaped iphone. thatnkyou. Try again google/htc/tmobile...
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Video Player: Available on market, but very, very limited (i miss tcpmp)
Setting Wallpaper: While ur on the Home screen, press the Menu button, wallpaper will be a selectable option
Editing Bookmarks: Open your browser, then press the Menu button, select Bookmarks, on the bookmarks screen, press and hold on the bookmark u want to edit until a screen pops up. Edit bookmark is there.
Clock on Home screen: to move it, just press and hold on the clock until it 'detaches' from the home screen.
to delete it, press and hold until it detaches from the screen then move it to your tab bar which you'll notice changed from an arrow to a trash bin.
to add one, while on the home screen, press the Menu button, select Add, Widget, Clock. then just place it wherever u want.
Something i had an issue with that i posted elsewhere was an rss reader. Google has one on its homepage, ur looking for Reader. Just sign-in and setup your links. Hopefully this'll help some people.
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Thanks for the tip on bookmarks! Afraid to delete clock, what is the replacement like? Any better?
I've heard everyone complaining about the battery life and while its not the greatest I don't think its as horrible as everyone makes it out to be. Batt lasted me 12 hours yesterday with heavy internet use!
WhatzinyourphonE said:
its a boring phone! I don't like it. looks oddly shaped. ill stick with my non oddly shaped iphone. thatnkyou. Try again google/htc/tmobile...
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atleast we have removable storage/ removable batery/mms messaging lolz anything else xda wanna add??
atleast when our battery is messed up we can go buy one instead of sendin the enrtire phone to get fixed and be stuck witout one
chaos2myst said:
mute the g1 and there is no more camera sound
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what if i don't want it muted?
Ok.. so i wont bore you with my mock review until the end, so that I can get some questions out first : (Im coming from a Wizard)
1) In the wizard, I was able to click on telephone numbers in MOST applications and dial straight from there. Specifically the web browser. I would search for the name of a place, the first link in google would have the address and number, I would click on the number and be dialing. Im guessing this was a PIE thing, but wanted to see what the deal was
2) The most annoying thing so far, is my inability to highlight multiple items. In my Wizard, I was able to go to the email screen and if there were 8 messages there, I could press firmly into the first message, slide my finger down to the last message and click delete. I am not able to highlight multiple items, and ive tried different pressure settings etc. Help.
3) Similar to 2.... I am unable to highlight text, atleast with my finger, for coy paste purposes
4) I am not able to get the setting where face down will mute the ringer. Ive tried Diamond Tweak, manual registery editing, nothing. Face down... the phone will ring everytime
5) When someone sends me a youtube link in an email and I click on it, it takes me to the youtube page (im on edge so, slowly) but cant get the youtube video to play. It loads the page, except the video window
6) What is the ideal screen sensitivity and pressure settings in the registry. Its the one thing that im a bit surpsied by, I know it is not a capacitive screen, but it takes some getting used to how much pressure it requires compared to an iPhone screen for example
I will write about my impressions after two more days to give myself ample time to get used to it so there is no wizard bias... :0
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6) What is the ideal screen sensitivity and pressure settings in the registry. Its the one thing that im a bit surpsied by, I know it is not a capacitive screen, but it takes some getting used to how much pressure it requires compared to an iPhone screen for example
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This is something I'd be particularly interested in .
Even though I use currently a phone with a capacitive screen I own a Wizard too. How would you say is the difference to the Wizard respectively how would you rate the sensitivity generally?
I'm answering to what I know...
2) The most annoying thing so far, is my inability to highlight multiple items. In my Wizard, I was able to go to the email screen and if there were 8 messages there, I could press firmly into the first message, slide my finger down to the last message and click delete. I am not able to highlight multiple items, and ive tried different pressure settings etc. Help.
In the message screen go to "Menu->Select->Some" then you will be able to select a group of items.
3) Similar to 2.... I am unable to highlight text, atleast with my finger, for coy paste purposes
This works for me!
5) When someone sends me a youtube link in an email and I click on it, it takes me to the youtube page (im on edge so, slowly) but cant get the youtube video to play. It loads the page, except the video window
This is due to lack of flsh support in Opera 9.5. You can play flash videos within CorePlayer.
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I'm answering to what I know...
2) The most annoying thing so far, is my inability to highlight multiple items. In my Wizard, I was able to go to the email screen and if there were 8 messages there, I could press firmly into the first message, slide my finger down to the last message and click delete. I am not able to highlight multiple items, and ive tried different pressure settings etc. Help.
In the message screen go to "Menu->Select->Some" then you will be able to select a group of items.
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Sweet.. I can live with that. Thanks
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5) When someone sends me a youtube link in an email and I click on it, it takes me to the youtube page (im on edge so, slowly) but cant get the youtube video to play. It loads the page, except the video window
This is due to lack of flsh support in Opera 9.5. You can play flash videos within CorePlayer.
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Yikes.. ok... blindsided by this one, so whats the roadmap on it?
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This is something I'd be particularly interested in .
Even though I use currently a phone with a capacitive screen I own a Wizard too. How would you say is the difference to the Wizard respectively how would you rate the sensitivity generally?
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I had an iPhone, gave it to my wife... the iphone screen is awesome, from day one, responsiveness, finger touch etc etc. The Wizard screen was ok, the feel wasnt there, but then again it wasnt big and i wasnt doing much with my finger anyway. Compared to the Wizard, the Touch HD is better, but since you are doing so much more on the screen and with your finger, it isnt as good as it needs to be. Twice the pressure is needed from the iphone, it doesnt "feel" good under my finger, feels like i have to fight against it to scroll the TF3D scroll thing (again comparing a resisitve screen to a capacitive one). Touch wise, it is excellent, I dont have to force buttons or anything. Im mainly complaining about gestures and TF3D. Overall finger friendliness, if the iphone is an 8, then the touch HD is a 6 and the wizard is a 4.
For 4: It can be done, I've been lurking around here for days now and I recall seeing an app that covers this exact thing - I *think* it's either SKTools or the Advanced Customisation Tool - I'm about to load up on or the other shortly, so if I find out I'll be back and let oyu know (if you haven't found it already in the meantime of course!)
6 : again I've seen some mention of registry setting alteerations to adjust this - but for me, I've used the same method as I did on my diamond and my screen is VERY sensitive - enough for me anyway.
Go and fire up the screen alignment process again - this time when doing it use the stylus and hover over the cross hair then very lightly rest it on the cross hair center - applying a tiny amount more pressure until it moves (it moves with a v. small amount of pressure) - seems to set pressure from this process to some extent. Whether or not this REALLY works, or it's utter placebo I truly dont know - but mine's totally fine and that's all I did Worth a shot I guess
The TouchFLO interface might mean that finger pressure always translates as scrolling, but if you want to select anything then you have to use a fingernail or the stylus. This is how it works on my Touch (Elf) - to scroll the screen I have to use the pad of my finger. If I use a more pointed pressure then I'm selecting stuff. I quite like this system - it differentiates between sweeping gestures and detailed touches.
Try using the stylus or a fingernail to select text or multiple emails. It might work.
(If it doesn't then I'll be annoyed too!)
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For 4: It can be done, I've been lurking around here for days now and I recall seeing an app that covers this exact thing - I *think* it's either SKTools or the Advanced Customisation Tool - I'm about to load up on or the other shortly, so if I find out I'll be back and let oyu know (if you haven't found it already in the meantime of course!)
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Yeah, I tried it all Schaps advanced config, Diamond tweak, Registery edits (havent tried SKtools yet) The option is there, in DIamond Tweak and in the registry. Jsut doesnt do anything...
blackb1ade said:
6 : again I've seen some mention of registry setting alteerations to adjust this - but for me, I've used the same method as I did on my diamond and my screen is VERY sensitive - enough for me anyway.
Go and fire up the screen alignment process again - this time when doing it use the stylus and hover over the cross hair then very lightly rest it on the cross hair center - applying a tiny amount more pressure until it moves (it moves with a v. small amount of pressure) - seems to set pressure from this process to some extent. Whether or not this REALLY works, or it's utter placebo I truly dont know - but mine's totally fine and that's all I did Worth a shot I guess
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Worth a shot.. did it.. nothing changed
I too would like to know if Opera can do what the OP wants in question 1?? That is one thing I love about my Iphone as it doesn't have a cut and paste but I can just click on the number in safari.
Can Opera do this? I was also looking at Skyfire today and was wondering if it did this and also when/if it will be available soon in the UK?
The select several option for email works.. so one problem down. Also ive realized that the screen sensitivity is just something I will have to get used to.
I have installed Flash Lite 3.1 for you tube and it seems to be working fine.
More updates as I have em. Anyone know why number links arent clickable in the browser?
Good thread, clears some things up.
I wonder how the pressure thing is.
How does it compare to an Elf (my current/old device) for example?
My HD should be in the mail tomorrow, but you never know with TNT mail.
I think its one of those things... you jsut need to get used to it...
We x10 users are growing in numbers by the second and it will be a while before we have the luxury of rooting, themes and fixes but what interests me more is having my gripes being herd so the stock phones little issues, bugs and failures software wise are highlighted before the major update in September is released.
So I’m thinking lets list our finding in this thread. From anger causing faults to suggestions to make current features better. Being an SE fan since the T610 I know that SE has a very odd relationship with its fans and something’s don’t hit home when they are staring them in the face but I’m hoping some things will stick.
Once some ideas come in I’d like to create a voting system but I’m not sure how to but I’m willing to take advice. Voting would be useful as I doubt all requests would be seen and acted upon (if any) but it would at least show a priority amongst the x10 users/developers.
So to be clear note software issues that could actually be corrected, improved or implemented. Posting this link on blogs near and far would get our wishes on the radar so please do so as I will. Starting with this one I reckon: http://blogs.extranet.sonyericsson.com/products/
To get the ball rolling...
Generally:
Hit areas for most of the UI seems a little out, maybe a calibration tool like that one found on windows mobile would solve this issue phone wide.
Selecting any audio file give an option to assign to the main ring ringtone. An additional option to assign to a contact seems only natural to be added.
Mediascape:
The track scrub bar is so random and dearly needs its hit area working on.
Old SE features like shake to shuffle, rock clockwise or anti-clockwise to skip forward or backwards/previous, hold on the volume rocker to skip forward or backwards/previous when the phone is locked.
These features are signature SE and I find it odd that they aren’t part of the phones features
Timescape:
It become apparent that this is simply a fancy viewer but it would be amazing for this application to actually be useful and enable the user to send messages in facebook mail and chat. The same for tweeter would make this app more than something people play with for a day.
Viewing the messages via the infinity button looks great, can this not be the default view when actually texting a contact. Contact Pictures and highlighted/different coloured threads.
There’s more but I can add them later.
Mediascape
This is not a bad player at all. But it has too many issues and shortcomings.
1) Its home page is almost useless, because the content in it is hardly what I'm looking for. When I click an album in the home page, I just want to hear that album.
2) I usually just want to browse for artists and albums, and to do this I have to press the little button in the upper right corner of the home screen. So, I would a much more simple, responsive and finger friendly interface. The slider is also very difficult to use.
3) When I disconnect the phone from A2DP, the current now playing list disappears and I can't resume it.
4) I just want indexed audio files in the /sdcard/music folder. Now I get indexed also ringtones and other audio files in SD card (for example, sound effects of a game) and this is a bit annoyance.
5) No way to control playback with device locked. My old SE phones allowed that by long pressing volume keys.
Timescape
After some tests, I no longer use it. I use the GMail client and the stock Facebook application. So I would like to be able to disable timescape and its integration with Contacts and Phone functionality.
Battery
If it is possible to do something via software to improve battery life, do it!
Hardware
I know it is impossible to do a "hardware patch", however I have found 4 basic issues that will drive my choice when I will buy my next smartphone, so this is actually a wish list for the next Xperia:
1) with this hardware design, it is almost impossible to do a good cradle/car holder, and given the very good GPS, this is a HUGE issue...
2) USB connector on top: this is related to the cradle issue, but it is also very uncomfortable speaking at phone when charging the device at home. The USB connector HAS TO BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DEVICE!
3) the maximum volume of the speaker is unacceptably low.
4) I really miss some kind of "joystick" to quickly navigate the UI without the touch.
Nice topic!
General:
* It should be possible to stop certain apps (moxier, maps, voice dialer, etc) from autostarting.
E-mail:
* Should be possible to set this app to download only headers. This is such a basic feature.
* Should be possible do discard/not show the oldest messages in inbox. It is already taking a while to load my inbox, what will happen in 6 months?
* Need to be able to attach other types of files than photos.
* When adding e-mail addresses from e-mails to existing contacts, the contact's name should not be overwritten.
Mediascape:
* Definitely needs the possibility to change track during key lock (i.e. holding volume keys).
* It annoys me that long track titles aren't centered.
Photos/camera:
* Need easy access to flashlight!
* Face recognition/identification is messed up, keeps forgetting added names and assigning random new ones. Needs a lot of work!
* When adding a photo as contact photo, it should not be necessary to scroll through all contacts starting from A. Should be possible to choose the first letter (as in contact list), or start spelling.
Contact list:
* When adding a photo to a contact, it should check if I have labeled that contact in any pictures, and suggest those (not just camera roll or standard icons).
Timescape:
* Should be able to display MMS. For example, use image as background and text as text.
* Should be able to display (scroll) longer facebook statuses, rather than sending me to the website.Widget for enabling/disabling wifi, GPS, etc should also include APN, which is not very easily accessible from the menus (many clicks).
Keyboards/language:
* I am missing an easy way to switch between languages (dictionaries)
* Should be possible to delete isolated words that the phone has automatically picked up. Don't want the phone to suggest all my misspelled words in the future. Deleting ALL saved words is not an option.
General
Definitely needs to be a way to disable included apps you're not using (Moxier and Timescape for me)
Info from the Testing menu (dial *#*#4636#*#*) should be available through the standard Settings menu.
Should be a way to adjust the various volumes on the fly without having to go through the Settings menu (pressing the volume keys only changes the Ringer volume, unless actively using Media, in which case Media volume is adjusted).
Would be nice to have a simple app to turn the camera light on and off for use as a flashlight.
Timescape
I don't find it useful at all. The information presented is too limited and the application is dog slow until it's all loaded and updated. Dedicated Facebook and Twitter apps are far better, as is Gmail.
Mediascape
I find it can be slow loading up file lists.
As lornova stated, the home page is useless. I'd rather be taken directly to my files.
Definitely needs lock screen controls. The lack thereof is the primary reason I switched to bTunes for music.
Needs support for DivX, XVid, and other common video codecs (FLV would be a bonus).
Contacts
Lacks options for standard fields from Gmail, such as "website" and "birthdate".
Needs to use the Facebook integration more extensively, automatically linking profiles to contacts and pulling contact photos in (if you choose an option to do so).
Facebook app needs to be registered as a link handler for Facebook links.
Camera
Needs a toggle for the camera light in the main camera UI.
Would be nice if the camera light could be used as a proper flash.
That's it at the moment. I may add more later.
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I do want to mention, that despite the above issues/requests, I do love my X10 and am very pleased with it overall. But nothing is perfect afterall.
Great thread and I agree with most of the above.
Timescape - I don't use it and perhaps it is a little ahead of it's time. I still see Facebook / Email / SMS as seperate communication methods with seperate purposes, Timescape merges them into one (OK, I know you can seperate them, but still..) it does not still feel natural to merge them into one continuous thread. Perhaps in 5 years time this sort of view will be natural but today I still like to access Facebook / Email / SMS seperately.
Mediascape - The X10 is great as a music player and actually sounds better than my iPOD. Mediascape is almost there but to repeat what has been said above, why does the mediascape homescreen list the recently played as default ? If I have just played an album, why would I want to play it again next time? It would be so much more useful to have random album selections on the front page, or semi-random choices based on the types of tracks recently played.
The 'More' button to get to albums/artists is tricky to press when you are stood in a crowded train, make it biGGER !
The slider for artists/albums/tracks/playlists is almost impossible to use without at least 5 attempts to select the wanted option. SE must have done a field trial with the X10 before the release, why were such simple things not picked up or corrected ?
Battery - Not so much a complaint as it was a week ago, I now manage 30+ hours charge life with reasonable heavy usage, using Moxier/GPS/Bluetooth (no WiFi!), I need to sleep at least 7 hours a day so I have no problem with my phone doing/charging the same. However there are some strange things in regards to battery life on the X10, I have had everything from 7 hours to 35 hours life for a complete charge. I have given up worrying about it but feel convinced that WiFi is the root cause for fast battery drain, even when switched off.
Regardless to the above, I think my X10 is great, the positives far outweigh the negatives and the majority of the negatives could (SHOULD) be easily addressed in a software update. I have friends with Nexus ONE's and HTC phones and I still prefer the X10 WoW, indeed some of my Nexus ONE friends prefer the X10 WoW but still ask is it worth the extra cost ? (I believe it is !!)
I think many of the 'issues' are driven by Android still being an immature OS, the iPhone still feels more smoother and more together than the Android, but the real benefit of Android is the possibilites for customizations... I love being able to see email/rss/news updates on the home screen each time I switch on, rather than having to open up individual apps as I do on the iPhone....
I won't repeat all of the good comments so far.. I agree with most of them..
So, some additional points.
The "Sleep" button on the top of the phone shouldn't be used differently when you're on a call.. I'd like to be able to lock my handset when I'm on a bluetooth call, not wait for it to time out.
More end user customisation in the feature apps would be a great feature (ie.. being able to define your own home screen on Mediascape, so you can make it what suits your needs).
A better photo viewer (This is one thing that the iphone does much better). The standard one is a bit clunky...
A few people have suggested a bigger button to go to the "more" screen.. why not just do what everything else does and allow you to swipe across to it (surely that's the most natural thing to do?!)
When you've named someone.. an option for the phone to go and fetch all other photo's featuring that person would be good..
built in options to manage the start-up of apps.. and monitor your phones performance.
If I think of anything else.. I'll re-post.
A built in deskside alarm clock - that replicates a normal digital clock; I've not found any in the market that really do a good job.
Calendar option - ability to goto a specific date in the calendar rather than having to scroll through to find it.. ("Fancy going to see x in concert on the 23rd Sept?", "ooh, I don't know, give me 5 minutes to find that date in my calendar")
Dialer
Smart Dialing, ability to select different logs.
UI Buttons & selectable text like phone numbers in Person Information
They are just too tiny to click it right. Requires to touch at a precise place. Plus, gets very hard to call someone while driving.
MediaScape
Need to be able to creat playlists.
Need to be able to add a track to current playing queque.
TimeScape
Tweeter/Facebook tiles should have option to pick up Photos from contacts when available. Also improve UI to make text more readable like have a bubble like layer to display text.
headphone/mic
While listening to music, if we get a call it requires us to unplug the headphones to speak on phone. That should be fixed to use the mic on phone.
Lock/Unlock
When on call, the power button should work as screen lock instead of ending the call.
The center Home button should not turn on display when pressed. This is making the display turn on/off constantly when you have phone in pant pocket and is probably draining the battery.
Plus most of the items already listed...
my wishlist:
- increase call volume
- cure wifi bug where wifi drops when the phone loses the mobile network signal
Mediascape
- put in an equalizer
- allow forward/rewind of tracks via the volume rockers when screen is off, just like on all other SE phones
PIM
- make Contacts show birthdays
- then allow Calendar to import birthdays from Contacts!
- incorporate tasks ( and please allow repeatable tasks) into Calendar
- cure Google Calendar sync issues (i have NEVER been able to sync with Google Calendar as yet)
^^
all very basic PIM stuff, although i realize that this is more a Google issue than an SE one
otherwise, i LOVE my X10. a fantastic piece of kit!
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
m_carleone82 said:
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Wow... very stright forward. I hope Microsoft will read your suggestion and build an update as soon as possible
My two cents:
Very detailed, however, have to reply to some of these.
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it. - Again, whats the big deal?! It was nice on my android phone, but I really dont miss it. The live tiles take care of all my notification issues.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered. - Isn't it?! Just press the letter, and you get a list of the letter, tap it and it takes you there. Very fast in my book!
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad. - Again, prefrence. Don't really use google apps that much, so not missing them.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively. - yea, thats one thing I wouldn't mind seeing.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build. - Haven't tried using GPS when in airplane mode. NEver switch my phone to Airplane mode.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color. - Yea, I guess, don't really notice that.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application. - Haven't used Skype yet, maybe one day.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted. -Dont have that app.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way. - Yea, that could be alot easier to handle.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase -Again, don't really notice that. I don't let my emails pile up to the point I need to select all to get rid of them. Once I read, they are filed or deleted. No need to leave them there taking up space.
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.-Not using Nokia, so not sure about this one.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off. - I don't think this is a possibility with any system, phone, or OS. Once the phone is off, its off. Now, if your turning your phone to sleep, or hibernate, then it should still work. Otherwise, powered off is powered off. Thats like wanting your car off, but as soon as you get in and hit the gas it magically comes to life and starts driving.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind. - Yea, that would be nice, but I don't miss it.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain. - Again, knowing what is sucking up your battery is a nice touch, and although I thought it was usefull when I had an android, I don't miss it. My 8X doesnt suck up enough battery power to be a concern.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords. - That would be nice!
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything! - You would have to talk to the app creater, thats not something controled by Windows. And I find no matter what I am doing, hitting the back button once, away goes keyboard. Every app lets me do that.
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps - Yes, local search would be nice, not just web
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram - Dont use it
• Multitasking gestures - Good lord, don't need it! Simple is the way!
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey, - Sorry
• Dropbox would be nice addition - Again, don't use it
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized - Yea, that would be nice
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics. - Uhmm, don't know about this one
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile. - Thats why I like HTC!
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be. - Again, talk to the app creator, not windows.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu. - Yea, thats true!
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
So thats my two cents!
If the keyboard is displayed simply press the back Button and it will be hidden. Works in any App.
As for the Live Tiles changing Color automatically with changes of the theme color. It is possible to be done with transparent Images but due to the problematic nature of saving those dynamically in WP7 most Devs render an Image with the current Background Color and Display that on the tile. If you want that bevhavior to change contact the developer.
The Alarm doesn't work when the device is turned off on Android or iOS as well. Symbian was the only notable exception of a Smartphone OS that did Support it. As for a wrong auto-completed word: simply tap the word and select your original Input or another Suggestion. Works for me without Problems.
If you enter Settings and look at phone Memory and then tap onto the bar that Displays how much free space you currently have it opens up a detailed view on what is taking how much Memory. At least it does on my Lumia 920.
As for the Button "Show Wifi Password" - it works similarily to the Show Password Buttons in Windows 8. They exist to allow you to have a look at the Password that you just entered/are just entering to check it for typing errors. It does work then. After you saved the Password you won't be able to retrieve it in this way for security reasons. The Buttons are not broken but work as designed.
I won't answer all the other Points. I agree with some but disagree with others but I wanted to provide some help and some context on what can be done and why some things behave the way they do.
jerrya said:
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
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I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
jerrya said:
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
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Great idea, but it would be nice to create folders on the phone instead of finding someplace else - computer, web browser, etc. All photo folder customization needs to be done outside of the app. It would be nice to set a default folder when taking pictures or saving pictures. Everything just goes into Saved Pictures or Camera Roll and then has to be organized later.
jerrya said:
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
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His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
jerrya said:
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
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Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
jerrya said:
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
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I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
jerrya said:
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
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Nokia Music is allowed to store items in the WP8 music store, but other 3rd party apps aren't. This is an inconsistency that really needs to be fixed. While you may not use 3rd party apps, there are a lot of nice ones out there and having to figure out workarounds to move the music around is a bit annoying. Personally I haven't had a need to worry about it but locking up the music storage is limiting our choices on what we can do with our own music files.
jerrya said:
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
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(laugh) I have to agree on needing this one! I frequently try to use my phone lying on my side and it's so obnoxious with the rotation. Would definitely be a nice option!
jerrya said:
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
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I see rebooting within 3rd party apps more often now that developers aren't required to use managed code. This is one of the drawbacks of native code. I think the OS should be more capable of protecting against that though. An app really shouldn't kill the OS so easily just because the app is buggy.
On that same note, sometimes when a app crashes you can't open it again unless you restart the OS. This leads me to believe that something is still retained in OS memory. WP8 is essentially like a 1.0 version of the OS though, so there are sure to be issues like this initially. Even though the kernel is the NT kernel, it's new for ARM processors, so it's still a brand new branch of the kernel.
jerrya said:
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
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He's talking about the people hub, not the photo hub. If you have your phone connected to Facebook or LinkedIn, the People hub automatically pulls the profile pictures for your contacts. You can argue that you only have contacts on your phone for people that will always have decent, acceptable profile pictures, but can you be 100% sure that will happen? Your choices right now are all or none. You can manually set a profile picture for every contact but that kind of defeats the neatness of the People hub cycling people. It would be nice if you could create a "Favorite People" group of people that you want the hub to show, as well as an "Excluded" group of people that include your pain in the neck brother that's always posting weird profile pics! Similar to the "Favorite Pics" in the photo hub.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
We've all learned workarounds for some of the items on this list and can say that we don't really care, but the truth is, if we have to constantly come up with workarounds, then the OS is missing something. Call Duration, Better Live Tile customization (such as the People Hub idea), better/easier sound/ring customization, etc.
Also, on the Live tiles. I think the medium tile is too big and the small tile isn't big enough for any detail. Coming from WP7, I'm so glad we don't have to have all "medium tiles" now, especially with a large (4.3+) screen. I just don't know how best to deal with this without making it too complicated.
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I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
ACtually, I found that it does time the call, when I just hung up with my wife, it showed call duration just above her name, so I would say it does it. that being said, it doesn't 'record' it for later retrieval, so I see the point your making.
His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
Gotcha, but if you don't use sound, strictly vibrate, then instead of turning on sound and vibrate in the settings once, you would only turn on vibrate. Then, you could either silence or vibrate when you select the toast. Of course, if you want sound and vibrate, yes, you would have to go into settings.
Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
I am not sure about that. I just checked 3 apps and could turn off location services. So maybe its app based on wether you can or cannot undo location services.
I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
I guess I am lucky, haven't seen the need for that.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
I agree, I remember my daughter on her kindle was surprised I could access it. She was surprised how easy it was to monitor her swipe to get an idea of her access. What I don't like about kids corner is the turn off to access your stuff. Should have the same ability to swipe back to the lock screen
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See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
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See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
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Just a few more comments... I think the location service you can't change are the ones that use it only for ads. I've checked a few and don't see anywhere to toggle it. I don't mind ads but I'm not a big fan of targeted ads. Much like ad cookies, it's just really a personal preference.
Thanks for the tip on the call duration.
I agree with you as well! Having a phone that just *works* and is simple to use has been great! I wouldn't trade it for any OS right now. I look forward to next week and MWC to see what the next updates/phones might be!
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1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
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Yeah, would love that too!
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• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
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They say it's coming. We'll see
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• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
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Press the alphabet. Addressed by jerrya
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• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
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I think the current way is good. Addressed by jerrya
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• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
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Yeah. Definitely a shortcoming.
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• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
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Whose fault is that?
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• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
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Uhm, yes it does?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
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Uhm, again, GPS works in airplane mode.
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• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
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Whenever you launch an app, the app will require permission for location use. It's one of the requirement for submission into the marketplace I believe.
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• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
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Uhm, its due to the way the API is implemented. And why would you want apps running in the background just to update the accent colour?
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• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
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It works for me.
m_carleone82 said:
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
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Whatsapp background notification works for me, with my phone locked or not. And the devs are lazy. I heard they are working for a optimised WP8 version with Nokia.
m_carleone82 said:
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
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Double tap back to close, I believe.
m_carleone82 said:
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
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3 dots -> delete thread.
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• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
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@winphonesupport <-- Tweet them.
m_carleone82 said:
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
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Not really possible with current gen smartphones.
m_carleone82 said:
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
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No thanks. Also, to correct words, just press on them.
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• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
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Again, it does.
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• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
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Yeah, would love that also.
m_carleone82 said:
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
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Security. Show password only shows password you typed that instant, not stored ones.
m_carleone82 said:
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
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Eh?
m_carleone82 said:
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
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Yeah, should be implemented.
m_carleone82 said:
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
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Damn right. However, these settings are configured on an application level. For example, while typing an URL, autocorrect would be useless.
m_carleone82 said:
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
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Uh huh. You do realise this is a MSFT product? It's like asking Android to provide bing search. Phone search would be nice though.
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• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
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Never happened to me before.
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b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
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Again, whose fault is that?
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• Multitasking gestures
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Would be nice
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• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
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Whose fault is that? . . .
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• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
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Turn it off?
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• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
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Whose fault is that?
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• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
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Get a HTC phone if you really want that. Or enjoy your Nokia exclusives. Damn, I really want them.
m_carleone82 said:
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
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Ask developers to implement that. API available.
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• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
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More fine tuning would be good. And hard to reach? Seriously. . .
m_carleone82 said:
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
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Ok... You can remove profile pics.
m_carleone82 said:
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Bug MSFT I guess
Windows Phone 8 was blessed as a Business OS. But thats not true!
There are missing still some important features like:
- Better calender view (weekly view)
- VPN
- signing e-mails ( S/MIME)
-encypt and decrypt mails
We are currentyl using WP7/WP8 (Lumia 900/Lumia 820) and Blackberry Devices in our Company. Since signing E-Mail is a must have in our Company we are not able to read our mail or attachemnts on our WP Devices.
With every other devices like Android, Iphone and Blackkberry is this possible but not with a Windows Phone 7/8. 2 year before i had talked to MS about this problem (good relationship in Austria) but there is still no solution for this.
I´m so sorry for this but we have now to Switch back to Blackberrys and Android Phones... :crying:
We are now waiting for the new BB Generation. In the next weeks i will upgrade our BES to BES 10
Hopefully MS will release this functionalities with the next update...
Privately i will stay with Windows Phone...
its missing an Office Suite with any functionality at all
How is Microsoft not going to have an Office suite, when both Android & iPhone have Office suites which rival the Full Office suite, both creating & editing MICROSOFT PPT, PPTX, DOC, DOCX, XLS, & XLSX, with more functions than you can imagine ...
microcrap includes a blank office page with 2 retarded options and no other functionality at all
can someone please shoot those people so they can rehire smarter employees?
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i need separate volume for ringtone / media / etc . (like android)
Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
1. VPN
2. Task Manager
3. App to SD (For any device SDCard Support)
4. Read first post...
Sent from my Windows Phone 8S by HTC using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I was going to buy a Wp8 Device but i just read this thread and i say to my self. what the hell is going on .
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Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
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Aside from colors and task manager(which is not needed anyway), you need a heavy dose of "learn to use a windows phone" my friend.
In fact, over half of the things "missing" are present and accounted for, you just need to look closer.
So, instead of QQing, how about you look in the phone settings, or...you know...USE the marketplace?
app2sd
some customization options
more popular apps (for services like catch notes, which i missing so much on wp8)/or more indie games from iphone/android devs ;/
normal SKYPE.. oh microsoft
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4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
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Doesn't this work on your phone?
Settings, Applications, people, filter my contact list
And then uncheck everything except your primary contact list?
I find the biggest issue for me as a windows phone user [from the HD7 to the 810] is the still remarkably poor offerings. So apps aren't even present like Hulu, some are covered by third party providers [youtube - metrotube] and there is a good selection of games. The app market is the single biggest handy cap that the OS has atm and that's needs to be fixed.
Apps I use;
Battery Meter Pro [Provides a live tile with icon and % of battery]
Metrotube [an actual youtube client not a browser shortcut]
Amazing Weather HD [provides a live tile with updated weather]
Facebook for WP8 [more common android looking facebook app]
MediaFire Manager [file storage]
Skydrive [MS provided - there are dropbox apps too I just don't use it]
PinInterest [an actual client for viewing PinInterest]
PAypal
Ebay
Skype [VoIP]
Snes8x [The only emulator atm]
tumblr.viewer [an actual client to view your tumblr account - no downloads though]
Weave News Reader [like androids pulse news reader]
WiFi Live Tile [provides a live tile with information on wifi strength and goes straight to settings]
Tankopedia [World of Tanks information - wiki as a client]
World of Tanks Assistant
WoW Companion [MoP Compatiable WoW Armory app]
Touchmouse [makes the phone a mouse for computers]
Flashlight [Pro version, gives a live tile to quickly turn the flash on]
Crackle [like hulu, not so much selection though]
BBC News
Cellular Live Tiles [gives signal strength, Data info and goes directly to settings when clicked]
Netflix
The three apps I am missing atm is Hulu, a stand alone movie player and Teamspeak.
Battery lasts most of my days use, with an occasional charging here and there. The rest of the settings are easy enough to get too, the letter management in the app list makes it very quick to get to apps you want [just got to get used to it] and very seldom see a reboot [about as often as my Samsung S3 does actually.