Is it the norm to be able to USB tether with out hotspot plan on verizon? - Networking

I have been able to tether with USB or "the cord" from the day I opened the box and that was before I added the hotspot plan. I have never rooted the phone or put a tethering app on the phone. I had an issue with "throttling", thats fixed now, but I can still tether via USB, but hotspot says no go. I know you need a plan for hotspot, but they only call it hotspot and there is no USB tethering plan listed.
So I am not sure if it's under the hotspot plan or it's just part of the 4GB plan I had, before I got unlimited and something messed up. I hope it's part of the base unlimited data plan, but I don't think it is.
Anyway just wanted to know what the deal is. I have only done 300mb off it and have not even went over 3GB on my unlimited data plan yet. LOL
P.S Before the "throttling" or what ever you want to call it I had used way too much, like 89GB much. ( My internet was about dead for two months and now it's fixed.)
Thanks in advance.

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[Q] Tethering - an option?

Is tethering going to be an option you can sign up for, or rather, something that they will detect and bill you for ?
I can't seem to find anything on their website as far as adding tethering to your plan. I have no gripes about paying for it, especially since now I have WiFi calling... I just dropped my plan down to 500 minutes as I plan on doing most everything via WiFi anyhow.
I do not know their plans. I am tethering with my Nexus while I am waiting on my order for this phone from the retention department.
I will be watching my billings to see if they are able to charge for this beginning today.
JWhipple said:
Is tethering going to be an option you can sign up for, or rather, something that they will detect and bill you for ?
I can't seem to find anything on their website as far as adding tethering to your plan. I have no gripes about paying for it, especially since now I have WiFi calling... I just dropped my plan down to 500 minutes as I plan on doing most everything via WiFi anyhow.
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I was curious as well...I dont know if they can detect that you are tethering, especially in places that have 4G service. The phone itself is capable of pulling quite a bit of data.
I can say that I have already flexed the tethering app installed on the phone and it works great...even on 3G. Its not something I abuse. If I need to tether to my laptop here at work, I do...then get off. I know some people who have cut out their home ISP and rely on tethering even to run their PS3 and XB360. That I think is being a little greedy for a service that T-Mobile has been pretty lenient with thus far.
On a side note...you would think that there would be a popup disclaimer "this app may result in charges...blah,blah,blah" when you open the default hotspot app...but there is not, leading me to believe that they may never take notice of casual tethering.

AT&T Tethering Detection

I just got a warning letter from AT&T in the mail for tethering without a tethering plan and they are threatening to eliminate my unlimited plan. I am going to stop now that they have warned me so I don't loose the plan but does anyone know how they detect it. I tethered a lot last month but I have been tethering for about 6 months now undetected. Last month though, I used 2GB of data compared to the 1GB I normally use. Is it only the spike which made them guess. I use the android wifi tether app. I heard a couple ways of how they do it.
1) They look at the user agent.
2) They look at the TCP/IP header for the number of hops. (Tetherers will have an extra hop) -if this is true if I used wired tether it would be fine
3) Just the spike in data usage.
I'm curious to know how they do it and if there is a way to stop them from knowing. There is a lot of this for the iphone but not for androids. Anybody know more about this
I have used wired tether and they stilll detect it.... Time for you to invest in home broadband.
How were you contacted or notified that you were tethering from AT&T? I have done it a number of times using wireless AP and never heard a thing.

Tethering with Easytether in SPITE of T-mobile.

Well T-mobile has been playing heck with my grandfathered data plan and the new phone....I could get on net on the phone but not on my laptop which was what my old Total VPN Internet was FOR......I've been looking at options..once the phone is rooted I can put in a change to make the phone use the same apn for tethering as normal but in the meantime I found I already owned easytether from amazon (normally a $9.99 app) as a free app from as recently as March 19, 2015. Their timing was excellent. It's usb or bluetooth but it will do just fine for now. Now to put the ubuntu .deb's and the windows drivers onto the phone sd card so I can install wherever needed.
I figured I'd mention this for anyone else in a similar situation.
Hi, I am wondering if you were able to tether from this phone without using the data from the tethering bucket?
In other words, Were you able to tether from it and use the data from the data bucket?
I have unlimited data with 3gb of tether. I would use the data from my unlimited data bucket to tether.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Were you able to create a new APN by clicking on the + sign in the "tethering and hotspot" section?
ahgahg said:
Were you able to create a new APN by clicking on the + sign in the "tethering and hotspot" section?
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Why on earth would I create a new apn when the whole point was to use the existing one? You don't use the tethering and hotspot section at all with easytether. Everything in that section automatically adds a "tether" tag which is how they track you in the first place.
Dude, you can create a new apn with what ever apn address you would like to use specially if you have unlimited tethering.
famewolf said:
Well T-mobile has been playing heck with my grandfathered data plan and the new phone....I could get on net on the phone but not on my laptop which was what my old Total VPN Internet was FOR......I've been looking at options..once the phone is rooted I can put in a change to make the phone use the same apn for tethering as normal but in the meantime I found I already owned easytether from amazon (normally a $9.99 app) as a free app from as recently as March 19, 2015. Their timing was excellent. It's usb or bluetooth but it will do just fine for now. Now to put the ubuntu .deb's and the windows drivers onto the phone sd card so I can install wherever needed.
I figured I'd mention this for anyone else in a similar situation.
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Nice! Thanks for the info! I'm going to try this out tomorrow.
Looks like T-Mobile might be making some adjustments to their tethering rules for ALL of their users (prepaid/postpaid/pay-as-you-go)
Not too well versed on the topic, but it seems like a good sign
macallik said:
Looks like T-Mobile might be making some adjustments to their tethering rules for ALL of their users (prepaid/postpaid/pay-as-you-go)
Not too well versed on the topic, but it seems like a good sign
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Thanks for the interesting info! I'll wait and see if this actually shows up on my old plan which has no hotspot at all...they also banned my nexus 5 from being able to be used on my old Total Internet VPN plan so perhaps that will be "fixed" as well....on the other hand I currently get unlimited 3g/h+ (wcdma) and I don't want it watered down to the throttled speeds they are showing either.

6p hotspot with Verizon.

Hi, I have a 6p and I'm on Verizon with an unlimited data plan. I've done some research and I've seen that people have been able to use the native hotspot feature without a subscription check. My question is, does using the hotspot feature without the subscription incur a charge on your bill even with unlimited data? Sorry in advance if this has already been asked and addressed. Running stock, no root. I have turned on the hotspot, used it on my PC and it does in fact work.
I have unlimited data and DO NOT have a tethering plan. I have used hotspot, not a ton, but have used it and have no charges. I have used an Xposed module in the past, or the build.prop mod to enable tethering, which bypasses the provisioning check from VZW, but it has not been necessary yet.
Like I said, I've only used it a few times for rather short periods when I needed to look something up and my Chromebook was easier than my phone, etc. I also used it for my PS Vita to do Remote Play to my PS4 on a vacation, which I imagine used a fair bit of data, but it was only for 20-30 minutes at a time over a few days.
Your results may vary, depending on what you use it for, how much data you use, etc.
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Hi, I have a 6p and I'm on Verizon with an unlimited data plan. I've done some research and I've seen that people have been able to use the native hotspot feature without a subscription check. My question is, does using the hotspot feature without the subscription incur a charge on your bill even with unlimited data? Sorry in advance if this has already been asked and addressed. Running stock, no root. I have turned on the hotspot, used it on my PC and it does in fact work.
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I use it all the time.
No changes, it just works out of the box.
Actually my computer. is tethered as I type.
I use a VPN to hide all my traffic from Verizon so they can't snoop packets and determine if I'm tethering or not.

Is there a Hotspot Limit Work Around?

I know sprint limits your hotspot use to 3gb with some plans and then drops the speed.
Is there any sort of work around for this without rooting since rooting isn't possible?
Thanks in advance. ♡
Kozinu said:
I know sprint limits your hotspot use to 3gb with some plans and then drops the speed.
Is there any sort of work around for this without rooting since rooting isn't possible?
Thanks in advance. ♡
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I'm using PdaNet without any problems. Have to do USB tether and share your internet thru the computer with the PdaNet wifi share feature. Because I'm paying for the hotspot I could also use FoxFi, but that part of PdaNet does use your allocated Hotspot data. So I stick with the USB tether through PdaNet.
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I'm using PdaNet without any problems. Have to do USB tether and share your internet thru the computer with the PdaNet wifi share feature. Because I'm paying for the hotspot I could also use FoxFi, but that part of PdaNet does use your allocated Hotspot data. So I stick with the USB tether through PdaNet.
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Pretty sure he was asking about bypassing wifi hotspot speed restrictions set by the carrier. If you didn't take the last update and can still adjust your apn settings I'm pretty sure you can.
Reboot device, turn hotspot/tether on within 5-20 seconds after boot up and it will turn on. I have tried it with device without the hotspot service, hotspot does turn on without the subscription notification but I didn't have any connection to the web, I've tried it on boost mobile with and without hotspot subscription devices. Downloading junk over 8GB plan limitation so far with the subscription though, I "think" boost mobile is now somewhat is unlimited to 1TB on hotspot now with the 1TB service is what they call unlimited. I don't have enough time to download over 33GB files all day to prove them their service is not truly unlimited.
Kozinu said:
I know sprint limits your hotspot use to 3gb with some plans and then drops the speed.
Is there any sort of work around for this without rooting since rooting isn't possible?
Thanks in advance. ♡
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sprint doesnt drop the speeds on the 3gb hotspot, they charge overages on the unlimited plans, you have to be on the data share pack plans for them to throttle it.
I have an 8 line sprint business plan, they offer a 2 month, 6GB Hotspot add on for 60$.
I also have an att unlocked iPhone 5S on a monthly prepaid smart mobile plan. Which, aside from the unlimited talk and text, I get FULLY unlimited data. Not "10gb at 4g speeds, then unlimited 2g"," II mean full unlimited high-speed. Including over wireless Hotspot. I'm 1 week into this month, and I'm 60gb deep. 58 of which were consumed via hotsoot. No throttling this far (knock on wood). Check the pic.
For how much? 60 DOLLARS. WTF sprint, a gb of data isn't work anywhere near 10$.
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T3chMan1 said:
Reboot device, turn hotspot/tether on within 5-20 seconds after boot up and it will turn on. I have tried it with device without the hotspot service, hotspot does turn on without the subscription notification but I didn't have any connection to the web, I've tried it on boost mobile with and without hotspot subscription devices. Downloading junk over 8GB plan limitation so far with the subscription though, I "think" boost mobile is now somewhat is unlimited to 1TB on hotspot now with the 1TB service is what they call unlimited. I don't have enough time to download over 33GB files all day to prove them their service is not truly unlimited.
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well I tried this on my s8 boost mobile because it turns off after 8 gigs (which aint sh%t) didn't work any other tricks I wish someone would figure out how to root this! any other tricks?
Have you tried the adb commands to turn on hotspot? I have an ed plan, so not sure if they will help you.
luiseno said:
well I tried this on my s8 boost mobile because it turns off after 8 gigs (which aint sh%t) didn't work any other tricks I wish someone would figure out how to root this! any other tricks?
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I can confirm that I can tether/hotspot with samsung j7 and PDAnet/FoxFi. I burn up my 8gb quick then use PdaNet, works like a charm. Phone is rooted though.
I am using an S5 on Safelink (Obama phone) on the bring your own phone program, all free $50 for a used S5 on Offer Up.
(actually it was the second s5 I bought for $50 on Offer Up. I dropped it, broke digitizer & LCD. It's now a $50 extra battery & charger.)
The plan offers 350 voice min, 1gb data & unlimited texting.
However you can purchase extra data for $10/gb I think. BUT for $40 $44.78 w/tax, you get unlimited everything. Voice, text and data . Ironically it's run on Tracfone who charges a hell of a lot more if they even offer unlimited.
BUT, apparantly you can tether. I've been doing it for a couple of days for my boyfriend. 15gb so far. I've searched a lot online, read all of Safelinks TOS and legal mumbo humbo and can't find any mention of throttling or tethering. except 1 sentence:
Safelink reserves the right to terminate service for unauthorized or abnormal usage. but nothing about tethering. Towards the end of the month I may start streaming video 24/7 to test this.

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