Sensation XE or Desire HD screen Mod - Hardware Hacking General

Hi
So I was wondering is it possible to replace the screen on the HTC sensation XE or the Desire HD with the screen from a HTC Rezound and is it possible to switch the RAM from Rezound with either of the other 2 phones
The reason I would want to do this is because the Rezound is far superior to either of the phones but is unavailable in the UK.
Yes I know that it will completely void any warranty etc but practically speaking is it possible??

I do not think so.
It IS possible practically but the money and hard work will equal a new phone's price
Please correct me if I am wrong

lol why do people always asks these questions, first of all for the screens, they probably all are different dimensions and each will have dfferent connectors/ connector locations so highly unlikely to get a different screen. second , the ram, i doubt that the rezounds ram will be compatable with either, people dont realize how the hardware on theese devices is. plus you would have to manually desolder/resolder all of those pins which means you would have to be a pro at smt soldering. and what will you do if you(hypothetically) get it together? Unless you are also a great dev there no way youll be able to get the thing to even boot up. so just stick with the phone the way it was made, dont like em, dont buy em

Well having asked HTC so see if it was even possible, the rep. said he would ask an engineer because he thought it was a good idea to replace the senastion screen with a super amoled. He said that the leading UK engineer told him that it cannot be done as it is a service HTC is not planning to use and while chatting with the rep. he told me that it would just be too costly and the risk of breaking the phone would just be too large. in his words, "you may as well just buy a new phone"

It wont work, and if you did get it to work the OS wouldn't just magically bump itself up to work on the 720p

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Please can i have your opinions

Hi folks
My Touch HD digitiser has gone faulty and its only 6 months old
or at least thats what i thought because the screen was not responding to touch. i am a electronic technical person so not totally naive.
I was using the wonderful NRG roms with no problems whatsoever.
I tried to replace the stock rom and spl before sending it back to HTC, but i had no way of checking it throughly because i could not get it past the calibrate screen.
Htc now want £159.00 to replace the motherboard, and they state the reason as the unit having foreign firmware installed which damaged the motheboard.
now the Htc touch HD was working perfectly apart from the fact that the screen would not respond to touch. and i admit it would run a little warm at times but nothing excessive. It has nerver been dropped. does anyone think that a complete motherboard would need to be replaced because of "foreign firmware"?
Is Htc trying to rip off their customers?
clearly the xda developers are just enhancing an already great product with their releases of wonderful firmware
this is clearly a hardware fault and not software.
please wade in with your opinions
hi, I totally agree with your statement, but if you restored the stock boot loader and then the stock rom you could say that you tried to do and hard reset of the device and because the screen didn't work you were unable of calibrating it. I think they can't prove that you used a different rom.
hope you solve soon.
greets,
Nicola
omniajet13 said:
Hi folks
My Touch HD digitiser has gone faulty and its only 6 months old
or at least thats what i thought because the screen was not responding to touch. i am a electronic technical person so not totally naive.
I was using the wonderful NRG roms with no problems whatsoever.
I tried to replace the stock rom and spl before sending it back to HTC, but i had no way of checking it throughly because i could not get it past the calibrate screen.
Htc now want £159.00 to replace the motherboard, and they state the reason as the unit having foreign firmware installed which damaged the motheboard.
now the Htc touch HD was working perfectly apart from the fact that the screen would not respond to touch. and i admit it would run a little warm at times but nothing excessive. It has nerver been dropped. does anyone think that a complete motherboard would need to be replaced because of "foreign firmware"?
Is Htc trying to rip off their customers?
clearly the xda developers are just enhancing an already great product with their releases of wonderful firmware
this is clearly a hardware fault and not software.
please wade in with your opinions
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Unfortunately HTC can legally stand by their clauses with foreign software on device as having a cooked rom on device voids warranty. I know you tried to restore back stock, but you couldn't tell and if appears they have still found your NRG rom on device.
However they are hiprocrites as this does not affect the motherboard and they are just lOoking for any excuse to void warranty which unfortunately you provided.
I believe others have been in your shoes before and posted similar threads. Try searching for these and see if they can shed any light.
but how can they get away with that?
If you buy a computer (which is what the Touch HD effectivly is), then you are entitled to use any operating system you whsh. wether it be Linux, Windows or Apple MAC. and if you develope a hardware fault then this cannot invalidate your warranty???
I dont get it? also how can they say it needs a new motherboard when it is clearly the digitser which has gone wrong?
omniajet13 said:
but how can they get away with that?
If you buy a computer (which is what the Touch HD effectivly is), then you are entitled to use any operating system you whsh. wether it be Linux, Windows or Apple MAC. and if you develope a hardware fault then this cannot invalidate your warranty???
I dont get it? also how can they say it needs a new motherboard when it is clearly the digitser which has gone wrong?
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I believe someone else asked this same question in another thread, though which one I have no idea. They asked similar question about how does HTC get away with this and I believe (if my memory bank is working) they wrote a letter to them and where able to still get it under warranty (don't hold me to this though) as they argued a new rom wouldn't affect digitizer. Possibly worth having a search for if you can find it.
omniajet13 said:
Htc now want £159.00 to replace the motherboard, and they state the reason as the unit having foreign firmware installed which damaged the motheboard.
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That Sucks.
A friend of mine had a similar problem,
He had a broken microphone,
and HTC sent a similar letter =>
You'll probably find that the digitizer is on the motherboard. Looking at it, it doesn't look like it can be separate. (Where would it fit?)
It does run a bit hot sometimes and heat is bad as you would know.
I have just read the warranty information and it states that the warranty is limited to the hardware as originally supplied,and makes no mention of any software or operating system. and by the very nature of the product it was made for installing third party software, operting system of choice ect.
in fact it reads " this limited warranty applies only to the hardware components of the product as originally supplied and does not apply to any software or other equipment".
I will persue this and post the outcome
Unfortunately "Software" and "Firmware" are two separate things. While you can install any operating system on your computer, that software isn't a part of the hardware.
In the case of smart phones (windows mobile phones), the operating system is Firmware, and not software. The difference here is that the Firmware is PART of the hardware. Similarly the bios rom on your computer is part of the motherboard hardware. To clarify, software is interpreted and run by hardware. On the other hand, firmware operates the hardware which is why changing to an unapproved firmware also means altering the hardware.
Unfortunately they have this clause in the warranty because you CAN destroy your hardware with a malicious rom, just like you can fry your harddrive, cpu and stuff with a malicious rom on your computer bios. You can have umpteen viruses or malicious 3rd party apps on your device and nothing it does can harm the hardware because it doesn't actually change how the hardware itself works. Firmware is different in that it changes internally how a piece of hardware works and in doing so, can damage it.
I do agree though, that in this case they're looking to void the warranty, but the truth is that the money they loose on one device under warranty must be covered by the profits made by 20+ other sold units (remember, revenue can just go towards warranties).
Hey man, you play the game, sometimes you lose. I took my phone apart, fallowed the factory service manual to the letter but I knew there was a good chance they would notice the missing "void" stickers and I had to pay for the repair ( for the problem that was there before I took it apart). I took it apart and that voids the warranty, so is life...

[Q] Noobie question

I am new to the HTC D2 and in reading all of the threads I dont understand the difference between the LEO and the D2 and someone please explain.
The T-Mobile HD2 is the Leo. Same phone,
Full Name for the device is HTC HD2 T8585 (HTC Leo 100)
The T-Mobile US HD2 is also known as the LEO1024, since it has a full gig of ROM memory. The Euro HD2 is known as just the Leo, or the LEO512, and obviously has half the memory. The US model is also just a tiny bit (1.5mm) longer, so cases and other accessories will fit one model or the other, but usually not both.
Most apps and such will work on either version, but you can NOT flash ROM's or Radios for the Euro model onto the US model, or you'll brick it.
thanks
thanks for the information
Is there an reason for this, meaning why do they have twice as much memory as the EU one?
lemonbarley said:
Is there an reason for this, meaning why do they have twice as much memory as the EU one?
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because t mo knew that it would cause extra media attention, and loads
of extra people would buy it simply cos they would perceive it to be "better", cos people are fickle, shallow and easily led. it made it "special".
my guess is they are regretting it, because its much easier to brick than the normal one, and putting into the hands of the afforementioned people will have generated a ton of warranty returns.(plus the stock tmous roms had several issues to begin with, which also caused returns and bad press)
samsamuel said:
because t mo knew that it would cause extra media attention, and loads
of extra people would buy it simply cos they would perceive it to be "better", cos people are fickle, shallow and easily led. it made it "special".
my guess is they are regretting it, because its much easier to brick than the normal one, and putting into the hands of the afforementioned people will have generated a ton of warranty returns.(plus the stock tmous roms had several issues to begin with, which also caused returns and bad press)
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LOL that's sam's gentle way of saying that 'mericans are suckers for "mor iz bettur"
lmao, ten years ago id have said exactly that word for word, but now it seems its become a global phenomenon. think less, demand more, give up your freedom in exchange for government hand holding and shiney! shiney! new! tings! to buy,,,,,, or maybe im just cynical.

Another HD2 vs Others thread

Ok so here's the thing. I've always been a phone modder, started with Motorola and have always used Motorola's, but frankly they just messed up with their Android phones which is why i have decided to abandon them. Now im considering buying an HD2, mainly because of the flexibility it offers modding wise, however i plan to use Android as my main OS.
The thing is, i know the HD2 wasn't built for Android, but my understanding of it is that it runs almost perfectly if you have the right radio/rom/android build combination, plus magldr will allow for native NAND boot and WP7 has been ported by Cotulla (I am unaware of the functionality of it). I was thinking about an HTC G2 but with it being locked from permaroot that kind of rules it out, and i've heard the hinge quality is terrible. Also, the HD2 has decent hardware for a year old phone, but newer phones are offering BT 3.0, A8 processor, dedicated GPU, S/AMOLED screens, etc.
So overall im looking for a phone that will give me the best bang for my buck, and is flexible modding wise (this is critical). I don't want a phone thats just push a button and it works, theres no fun in that. So what would you guys do? Go for the HD2 which is already a year old phone or get something newer (SGS, G2, Desire, etc)? Build quality is also something important, I dont want the phone with the best specs if its built completely out of cheap plastic. The HD2 is also the cheapest option of most current phones, so yeah.
All opinions are welcome.
If you plan to use it entirely for android then I think you want the Desire HD instead......
Price is an issue, the Desire HD is too expensive for me lol, besides its also permalocked
what do you mean by permalocked?......
maybe an evo if your in an area where you could make most of it......
if not then yeah you might as well go for the HD2.........
conantroutman said:
what do you mean by permalocked?......
maybe an evo if your in an area where you could make most of it......
if not then yeah you might as well go for the HD2.........
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It means that the Desire HD and the G2 have built in protection that makes permanent root impossible as all changes to the eMMC are cached and erased upon reboot, so you can root the phone but it will be reset once you reboot. I can't use CDMA, has to be GSM
ocm7 said:
It means that the Desire HD and the G2 have built in protection that makes permanent root impossible as all changes to the eMMC are cached and erased upon reboot, so you can root the phone but it will be reset once you reboot. I can't use CDMA, has to be GSM
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Didnt realise that....... im pretty clueless when it comes to android....
that however, has put me off ever replacing my HD2 with a native android device....
Did you consider the iPhone?
Just kidding.............
Lmao never! And it's just those HTC Android devices that are locked, i believe. Motorolas are also locked but i believe Samsungs are good
Just go and get it,Android works flowless on it, WM isnt as bad as they say it is.And the build quality is second to none,I just dropped it yesterday while taking a picture,not a single scratch.
WM is so much fun for tweaking, and Co0kie's Home Tab is a dream come true...
Android works amazingly - except for me battery-life remains an issue, so research this if you think it's your preferred OS.
But as a phone to tweak with, with a choice of 2 OS's and another 2 hopefully on the way, the HD2 is a fantastic choice, a great form-factor, and probably relatively cheap as it's a year old.
ocm7 said:
Lmao never! And it's just those HTC Android devices that are locked, i believe. Motorolas are also locked but i believe Samsungs are good
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I could never trust a samsung, my fiance had 2 and they both broke.......
as much as I hate her iPhone I must say that it sure is a sturdy device to cope with what she puts it through on a daily basis..........
as for my next phone............ when I get an upgrade I think Im just gonna sell it and buy a couple of spare HD2's
So yeah I think you should opt for the HD2......
The galaxy s phones are really good. I myself am using a vibrant running a custom rom. Its an awesome phone especially once u start modding it. You should browse the vibrant forum and see what all is going on.
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Thanks for the replies, i just got a Tmous HD2 on ebay for US$206

[Q] Which one to get rid of HD2 or DHD?

Hi all,
Got a question which I was wondering if you guys could give me some advice on. I have a brand new Desire HD in my hands which was given to me free, and expecting my HD2 to be replaced by warranty on Monday. So, providing I can get through the whole weekend without drunkenly damaging the Desire HD I will basically have two new phones.
I have had issues with the HD2 freezing all the time (which turns out was due to faulty hardware/overheating) so didn't get the opportunity to use android issue-free. I did however enjoy flashing different builds and messing around with the device. The main things that are important to me on a phone is connectivity (facebook integration, internet, email etc), calls, text, music and games. Camera quality is not that important. I do like the hard buttons on the HD2 and the back cover rather than the flimsy battery and sim covers of the DHD.
The DHD has a better camera, screen, and more RAM. It would also get me a couple of hundred dollars extra if I sold it, rather than the HD2. I would suspect that the development of android on this site would be much the same between the devices – gingerbread etc within a similar time frame. Will the DHD have the potential to run multiple OS and builds like the HD2? I am wanting to know if the extra RAM and newer processor means that much in say 6-12 months time? Will I need the higher specs of the DHD or is the HD2 going to be adequate until a dual-core processor is made? Is the DHD that half-step above the HD2 in terms of hardware but finds itself standing in no mans land? If this is the case, I’ll flick the DHD and keep the HD2….
that my friend is a simple answer, the dhd cause it simply cant do what the hd2 can do
LK BootLoader is Open source some one might modify that to work with DHD and WP7, so in that case we can install WP7 as well.
Currently HD2 is leading when come to different OSs
If I were you i will be sticking with DHD cz of Android
I agree.. dhd have to go... i mean it top of the line and all but the hd2 can do what every the desire can do plus copy any other android phone.. We talking about a copy cat here.. you dont need to buy no other phone because you have the best of both worlds... I have the hd2 and i love it so much cuz it saved me money

[Q] urgent help required for htc hd2

i recently got to know about htc hd2 and its capability to dual boot both android and wp7 and many other OS, so i started searching for the phone am getting one htc hd2 6 months old for about 13000 INR near my place so should i get this phone hardware wise i find the phone great am really interested in trying different OS in same phone will all these OS run smoothly as they are meant to be
then i was wondring should i buy this phone after 2 years of its launch
will it be wise to buy it at that price aiming to run different OS and to experiance all apps and games meant for them.... i dont mind spending time in modding i earlier had a nokia 5230 and was constatly flashing and modding its rom so am little familer with the stuff
please anyone help me out here
wow no reply at all please someone suggest something atleast what to do?
Well the real answer is it is up to you if it is worth it or not. I did not convert the figure you posted into US dollars so I am not sure how much that amout is really.
I still have my HD2 and I will never sell it or get rid of it. The device it self is a great device, it has good hardware even by today's standards. Yes it is not a dual core device bit it still preforms very nicely no matter what OS you install on it. The ability to run so many OS's also makes it still a very relevant device. The actual physical construction of the device is very good and holds up to day to day use very well. hope that helps some.
go for it dude...i bought my hd2 for 36,000 rs..2yrs back.and is worth that even today for me......so, you are getting it for a steal...go get it flash away and enjoy
thank you both for your replies now i am definatily going to get one hopefully tomorrow
converting it into us dollar it comes something around 260$
by the way how is the battery life if i run mango and android in dual boot with moderate usage can it last atleast a day
also do i need to worry about the digitizer problem i heard somewhere that it was only for some batch and not all device had that flaw
and finally will i be able to play some nice 3d games?

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