[ICS] should they stop working on it - EVO 4G General

I've been following the ics project since after my birthday (11/27/11) and a lot has changed but when it comes to (FFC) it came to me that its not gonna work till maybe after the summer or never, whenever HTC gives out the code bit what's your opinion about the ics for the EVO 4G?
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This doesnt belong in the Android Development section, belongs in GENERAL.

My bad I thought it was general at first. The system will automaticly do it for me as usual.
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ummm my opinion on it is that if they dont want to they shouldnt. It will give us an awesome rom but more importantly that means our wonderful devs are learning stuff. this means that in the future they can use these experiences to help them in work or in other aspects of there personal lifes. so dev on guys you are doing great

Why in the world should they stop working on ICS? It makes little sense.
Deck and Kang and others are making great ICS ROMs for lots of phones, not just the EVO4G.

htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..

Dan330 said:
htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
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The OS code is open source. The device drivers are not last I knew. So no, HTC does not have to release driver code.

HTC may release the FFC code for our OG's as soon as they sell enough of their newer devices.
They seem to be dragging their feet in releasing the official ICS updates for the Evo 3D and the Evo Design when they said they would, but they're holding it back, why? Cuz they want to sell enough of the One series models before they officially update the older HTC models that are scheduled to be updated with ICS.
Its kinda crappy of HTC to do that, but hey, they're a "for-profit" business.
But in answer to your question, heck no they shouldn't stop developing ICS for our OG Evo's! This sh*t is fun as hell.
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what is the point of this thread? why is that a question? sorry no disrespect.

Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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scottspa74 said:
Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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I flashed outer depth express from, which is a great rom , just for ****s and giggles and let me tell you I haven't tried sense for about a year now and if you want to appreciate ics, flash a sense rom and you will see y we won't look back.....omg.....
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I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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BigSmoke53 said:
I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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Front facing camera
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Front facing camera
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Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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BigSmoke53 said:
Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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That's my point. This thread makes no sense. Ics development for evo is extremely active. Don't understand the creation of this thread.
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Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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Hell no. I am ugly. I don't want to see myself anyway.
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The evo is EOL(end of life) HTC doesn't have to support it any longer meaning they won't release any source for it as they are not working on ICS for the device. Hardware mfgs may release source for the same hardware in other devices, like they did with the adreno or the devs may code their own drivers. But don't expect HTC to do a damn thing for the evo, period.
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All I'm saying we have a lot of people love the ics Rom but some people hate it cause no 4G. But let me tell one thing about the ics it came a lot since then and like some people who are poor or they don't make a lot of money, its hard to keep up with ics roms when the last two months the biggest change was 4.0.4 which is like starting all over again. Don't get me wrong with the debate about their work, its freaking amazing, but the biggest break through will be the ffc. Closest to that is from a horse ride to a plane ride experience
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I don't think that they should stop working on the ICS ROM's. I went from Sense to Ice Cream Sense to ICS and having ICS on my phone is like having a brand new phone. We don't have 4G in our area, and the front facing camera I hardly used. I am using gummyWorms ICS right now and so far had no major problems with it. There are minor glitches sometimes but, that is no big deal. I hope that the ICS developers can get everything working and I know that it will take time to do so. I appreciate all of their hard work in bringing us some ICS goodness to our phones.

Related

This was fast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB7oUptHnPc&feature=youtube_gdata_player:D
gingerbread already ported to galaxy s phone wow
It's time
No wifi yet.
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Just saw this too. Awesome. A lot of people, including myself, have posted that we hoped it would be an easy port. I dont think any of us thought it would be THIS quick of a port.
Now that cyanogen looks to be almost beta ready, some decisions to make.... gingerbread or cyanogen on 2.2.
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i wonder if theyd be able to get 4g to work though, being that i think theyre only making gsm nexus s'.
i heard cyanogens team has 4g working now on the evo.
How hard will it be for the 2.3 aosp from the nexus s to be ported over to the epic? The obstacles I can see delaying the port are 4G, cdma, and the keyboard. Hopefully these factors won't effect the development for too long.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2np3b2W5aM
on the epic also
That's fake
popper668 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2np3b2W5aM
on the epic also
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That is just the gingerbread theme.
popper668 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2np3b2W5aM
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Lol I don't believe that is gingerbread. I highly doubt they would have got the radios working if they did port it over.. all that is, is the theme, startup & shutdown animation, and gingerbread launcher (can get in the market I believe) theme and start up can be found over in the theme & app section
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sorry. still waking up..

Samsung/XDA part2

I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
TwitterSamsungJohn
yay!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the update. It is appreciated.
Thanks for the update!!!
By the way, before this thread becomes full of just thanks, I suggest that a mod close this?
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Glad you decided to chime in my friend. Read my twitter I just sent to you. G'night.
This is like a dream come true.
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How about a teaser while we wait?
Me being neagtive about samsung (hey, I have good reasons) I'm taking almost nothing of this. But hey suprize me samsung, do it.
I dare u O.O
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Nice. Appreciate the update.
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what's a "TELLY FON"???
hope this is what i think it is. would like to buy a sammy phone again but its gonna take something good at this point
Would rather hear about a froyo source release for our phone than a official froyo release to be honest. Our devs do way better work with source than what samsung would release as official froyo. Look at the amazing work that noobl has done without source for froyo and we have an awesome dev that even has released work of an miui port (which I am most excited for coming from an htc incredible with a fully working port).
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Thanks John.
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Good to hear.
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Glad to see the community making way to greener pastures..
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XtaC318 said:
Glad to see the community making way to greener pastures..
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lol maybe not greener, but at least slightly more mature
Regardless of the announcement I'm just glad to see there's some communication going on.
I don't even like frozen yogurt
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Hopefully it'll have Touchwiz 4.0 like the Galaxy S II. If not, I'll just stick with Launcher Pro .
Thanks for the update!!
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Please be GB
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Samsung John, thank you so much for making a connection with the people at XDA and being less transparent with the end user. However even if you are coming out with an announcement, could we have at least an eta. After a while of hearing nothing but coming soon, something along the lines of coming in a month, 6 weeks, 2 weeks, whatever would be much appreciated with any announcement. I am not even talking about froyo, I am talking about anything in general. But again thank you for coming and creating this channel with XDA.

Stratosphere Soon

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
This means Stratosphere will come out soon. That will help us on MIUI and CM7 etc, because it's kernel source will help us.
Also, same specs as epic.
Same CPU and gpu combo? If that even matter
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Same CPU and gpu combo? If that even matter
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I assume so.
From the specs it's almost the same as the Epic except for LTE instead of WiMax
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From the specs it's almost the same as the Epic except for LTE instead of WiMax
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Exactly. That should help us a lot
fixed link: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
looking forward to this!!
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fixed link: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
looking forward to this!!
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Thanks. Not sure why that happened.
Awesome! Glad I wasn't the only one who was looking forward to this phones release. Hopefully it'll get us some help with building/porting stuff, as well as some helpfull Devs that might be willing to lend our community a hand
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I remember my old moment got its second life and froyo that was ported from the transform, it would be pretty sad though if we could get a ported gingerbread only weeks from official release though.
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xopher.hunter said:
I remember my old moment got its second life and froyo that was ported from the transform, it would be pretty sad though if we could get a ported gingerbread only weeks from official release though.
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weeks from official release? that can only be a rumor.. we may not get it for months?!
I thought it was funny that they didn't include that the epic came with a 16 gb. Sd card. Lol
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I thought it was funny that they didn't include that the epic came with a 16 gb. Sd card. Lol
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I thought I was the only one who noticed that lol
How about 720p video recording. Its suppose to only have 480p.
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I just want CM7 on our Epic and if it comes by way of official GB for our Epic or from getting the things we need from the Stratosphere version of GB, then I'll be happy. As long it can tie me over until the Prime or SGS III, I will be satisfied.
It's all software
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How about 720p video recording. Its suppose to only have 480p.
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I think that's just a software limitation and it could be fixed by modifying the kernel settings.
For example, when I had my HD2 with stock Windows Mobile 6.5, the maximum recording resolution I managed to get was ~ 640x480 .
with hacked Android 2.3 installed (Ported from the Desire) it jumped to 800x600!.
with hacked Windows Phone 7 (Ported from the HD7) it jumped to 1280×720!!!.
xboxfanj said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/2...osphere-comparisons-to-other-devices-as-well/
This means Stratosphere will come out soon. That will help us on MIUI and CM7 etc, because it's kernel source will help us.
Also, same specs as epic.
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How can they ship that phone with 2.3 but we cant get a working 2.3 update for the Epic? It's nearly the same phone.
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How can they ship that phone with 2.3 but we cant get a working 2.3 update for the Epic? It's nearly the same phone.
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Because it is Samsung, they did the same with the moment when the transform was the same phone redesigned.
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Because it is Samsung, they did the same with the moment when the transform was the same phone redesigned.
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Yup.. ahh, the good ol moment.. such a failure on Samsung's part.. and it ran froyo so well too.
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Because it is Samsung, they did the same with the moment when the transform was the same phone redesigned.
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Oh trust me I know all about that stupid Moment since I had one before the Epic. LOL
I remember the moment, thanks to mrwrx for getting us froyo when even samsung couldn't was great. It was a fun ride when he was very quickly fixing the issues (proxmity sensor, camera upside down, gyroscope broken) those were the good old days at sdx lol.
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Where's teh Gingerbread?

Its now october and we've yet to see any official gingerbread and sources, I've lost all respect to samsung and there dev team. They've had 2 chances for an ontime release and failed both. Our latest leaks are crap with reboots and other difficulties. Even after about a half a year a major company cannot put out and release a quality piece of gingerbread.
Flame all you want, call me a troll for all I care, I'm tired of this ****.
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Competely agree. I like the hardware, samsung software support is terrible compared to htc and moto. Disappointed that samsung does not want to continue to support their hardware. Can't say I am jumping up and down to buy another samsung product (except maybe nexus) when my contract is up in a few months.
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They release the best hardware then get lazy with the software, lol
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Does anyone even know why they're taking so long to get it to us
At this point I hope we don't get gingerbread. Much rather wait another month or two and get ICS. That would be the **** if at the Samsung/Google event on Oct 11th they announce ICS builds for all of their Galaxy S and Galaxy S II phones.
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Does anyone even know why they're taking so long to get it to us
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there samsung, all the reason you'll ever need.
Not a good enough reason. If you notice the dfferent versions of GB they've went through you'll understand that for every GB version 2.3, 2.3.2, 2.3.3, and 2.3.4; Samsung took a month to two months of testing and improving. GB been in the works since april/may starting with 2.3 and now we're at 2.3.4. And from the looks of it they're in the last month of testing and improving GB
Even though 2.3.7 is out apparently lol.
I however, could have misread.
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Its now october and we've yet to see any official gingerbread and sources, I've lost all respect to samsung and there dev team. They've had 2 chances for an ontime release and failed both. Our latest leaks are crap with reboots and other difficulties. Even after about a half a year a major company cannot put out and release a quality piece of gingerbread.
Flame all you want, call me a troll for all I care, I'm tired of this ****.
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It's October 3rd -- give it some time. It's obviously late, *****ing on a forum is not going to make it come quicker.
AproSamurai said:
Even though 2.3.7 is out apparently lol.
I however, could have misread.
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Only Google's baby get the latest and greatest. . . . . it sucks the epic is a foster child who adoptive parents only want a check for it's stay
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Even though 2.3.7 is out apparently lol.
I however, could have misread.
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All the builds 2.3.5 and up are Nexus only fixes that were released due to bugs I believe. We won't be needing those fixes, but HEY Samsung, we will be NEEDING ICS (yes, we know u lurk around this place!) :O
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masaidjet said:
Only Google's baby get the latest and greatest. . . . . it sucks the epic is a foster child who adoptive parents only want a check for it's stay
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And anyone with CM7 on their device. I have 2.3.7 on my mytouch 4g right now
muyoso said:
At this point I hope we don't get gingerbread. Much rather wait another month or two and get ICS. That would be the **** if at the Samsung/Google event on Oct 11th they announce ICS builds for all of their Galaxy S and Galaxy S II phones.
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HA! Then we would have it by October 2012!
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masaidjet said:
Only Google's baby get the latest and greatest. . . . . it sucks the epic is a foster child who adoptive parents only want a check for it's stay
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Because Google's baby don't have touchwiz crap and blocked access to Kies. Don't be down on the Epic when none of the US Galaxy S series have gotten GB yet.
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It's all really simple if you think about it.
Icecream sandwich isn't out yet. Therefore we don't have gingerbread. The general rule of thumb with these phones has been always being one release behind.
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If I wanted to be locked in to a manufacturer's software release schedule so I could ***** about delays on forums, I would have bought an iPhone. Instead, I bought an Android phone and have had Gingerbread for months.
I'm pretty happy with Froyo... ACS made it manageable.
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It's all really simple if you think about it.
Icecream sandwich isn't out yet. Therefore we don't have gingerbread. The general rule of thumb with these phones has been always being one release behind.
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I could actually believe this. If you think about it, it encourages people to upgrade. Then the ones they know aren't going anywhere yet get the update after they sell their latest and greatest
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I'm pretty happy with Froyo... ACS made it manageable.
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Manageable Lol. My first cell phone came in its own backpack that had to be unzippered to raise an antennae and I still couldn't make a call unless I was in the middle of a big open area without so much as a friggin tree within 100 feet, and your ACS Froyo Epic is manageable. Haha that's funny sh*t right there.
Sorry couldn't resist, Flame on.
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Well, its officially official. No OTA ICS for us

I think everyone knew it wasn't going to happen, but now its confirmed.
Xda link with htc link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-ics-update-schedule-released/
I'm not a big fan of sense anyway. I likes me AOSP roms.
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I'd like to know what they mean by HTC EVO 4G"+". At first I thought the LTE version but that ships with ICS so doesn't make sense. Anyone care / able to explain?
possibly the europe version not sure.. that's what i thought too..
Evo Design 4G
It's coming to the Evo Design 4G (which has the same radio and camera) next month or the month after, so that's promising for us getting 4G and a good camera on ICS.
The Evo 4G+ is the chinese branding of the Evo 3D. But, if someone got Sense 4 working on the HD2, I think we can get it working on the Shift.
Just because the Shift officially isn't getting ICS, doesn't mean it won't get ported over.
I'm happy with NewSense.
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I'm happy with NewSense.
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The way sense should of been
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The way sense should of been
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Since day 1.
still on newsense, HTC needs to get a pen and paper and take notes from xda at this point.
I wish newSense could get some of the mikrunny(sp?) 3.5 sense. I like being able to reduce the number of screens.
But, newSense is my current go to rom for prl's etc.
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