I saw a post like this before but I can't find it so sorry for making a new thread anyway,do you need to install fire fire fire in order to install cwm.
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Read the kindle fire for beginners guide up top, it'll allow you to understand the relationship between FFF and CWM. Then it'll be clear what your answer is.
There are so many pseudo bricks on here because the rooting process is WAY too easy, so most android newbs run headfirst into rooting and screwing everything up without understanding what they're doing and why they're doing it.
Gone are the old nexus one rooting days where it was only performed through adb/fastboot and involved sanding down your battery plus pulling/pushing in SD card. None of this one click crap that never weeds out the mis, under, or non-informed.
To my understanding after reading, fire fire fire is a bootloader that goes into fastboot mode for 5 seconds,wich means I don't need fire fire fire and cwmr.All I need is CWMR, correct.
Thanks
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and it offers the possibility to boot to recovery at startup by repeatently pressing the power button till it gets orange
how do you get to recovery if your system is failing ?
b63 said:
and it offers the possibility to boot to recovery at startup by repeatently pressing the power button till it gets orange
how do you get to recovery if your system is failing ?
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Now I'm confused again.do you need both or can you just install CWMR and it will work???
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both !!!
the custom bootloader (fff) and a recovery (cwm or twrp)
to fully understand how it is working i would recommend to read kinfauns sticky thread
thanks
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both !!!
the custom bootloader (fff) and a recovery (cwm or twrp)
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Ok but last time I installed twrp all I had to do is click install twrp and I didn't need to install fff first.can I do the same with CWMR...does KFU automatically install fff when you click install twrp or cwmr.
twrp and cwm use different installation methods:
if you install twrp then it installs fff 1.0 as integrated part of the installation package
if you want the newest fff with twrp then you have to install it additionally again afterwards
if you use cwm then cwm will be pushed to the recovery partition - not more
therefore if you want to use cwm you have to install both fff & cwm
in kfu this would be: "install newest fff" and "install cmw"
b63 said:
twrp and cwm use different installation methods:
if you install twrp then it installs fff 1.0 as integrated part of the installation package
if you want the newest fff with twrp then you have to install it additionally again afterwards
if you use cwm then cwm will be pushed to the recovery partition - not more
therefore if you want to use cwm you have to install both fff & cwm
in kfu this would be: "install newest fff" and "install cmw"
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Thank you...thanks for not getting frustrated with me also.
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glad to help ...
please mark the subject of the topic (edit first post) with [Solved]
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glad to help ...
please mark the subject of the topic (edit first post) with [Solved]
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I just did.one last question.should I install cwmr or fff first.
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that is up to you - as you like - it makes no difference
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I installed TWRP a couple days ago and whenever I rebooted the Kindle Fire, I saw the yellow triangle.
But now it doesn't come up anymore. Whenever I reboot it just shows the Kindle Fire boot screen.
I know TWRP is installed because in my /sdcard partition the TWRP folder is there with the backup I made.
So how do I get the TWRP boot screen to appear again?
Thanks
You might have gotten updated. Mine did the same thing. Amazon pushed the 6.2.1 update and it undid twrp and root. Just use the kf utility to redo root,twrp, and the market stuff.
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Well I am rooted right now.
The last thing I flashed on TWRP was the Kindle Fire 6.2.1 Pre-Rooted Secure Boot Image when I was on v6.0.
But for some reason after I flashed the Pre-Rooted boot image, it erased my root anyway?
I rerooted later using Burrito Root.
I'm thinking that when the Pre-Rooted 6.2.1 boot image erased my root, it also uninstalled TWRP too.
But because the TWRP backup folder was in /sdcard it was kept intact since the Pre-Rooted 6.2.1 boot image only replaces the /system partition.
I don't think the pre rooted image has twrp so it got erased. You should go grab the kf utility and use that to apply root and install twrp along with market apps too.
Just check the main fire forum, the utility is at the top.
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I am already rooted. So should I just get the KF Utility and reinstall TWRP?
If I do that, will it erase my current backup?
No. The backup is.on your sd card it wont be effected. How are you checking for root?
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Maybe TWRP is there, but you system isn't booting FireFireFire.
Can you boot into your flashed ROM?
I can verify that neither of the pre-rooted 6.2.1 roms delete twrp or firfirefire. I used twrp to install both when I was using them and retained twrp on both occassions.
I had the same issue after an update. I used the fire util to reflash twrp. It gave an error that the twrp files already existed but still re-enabled the firefirefire bootloader.
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Maybe it's because when I was done flashing the Pre-Rooted 6.2.1 ROM, I didn't wipe the dalvik cache?
Also when it asked me to reboot, I pressed Power Off instead of System?
Could that be the problem?
bump.
Still need an answer to my question before I proceed.
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bump.
Still need an answer to my question before I proceed.
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Did you use KFU to redo the TWRP?
will try to give you answers so much as i know and i'm thinking about it:
1. there are a lot of people where the prerouted update was overwritten by the OTA - there could be more reasons why: was allready in the cache folder or got pushed anyway - that's not really clear - but now you'r safe
2. the kfu don't overwrite firefirefire or twrp
3. the prerooted boot images don't overwrite firefirefire or twrp
if i'm wrong someone correct me
i think you can go on - good luck & much fun
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Did you use KFU to redo the TWRP?
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KFU is the easiest way - only take care if you have burritoroot allready on your kf - unistall burritoroot first and redo with kfu - and if you have driver problems don't use the drivers from kfu - use the ones from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20855280&postcount=54
in kindle utility what boot status does it say
i want to root and install recovery using KFU but before i get started i just want to ask a few question.
1. i do i need a wi-fi connection in my kindle fire before using KFU?
2. when connecting my KF to my computer, will i turn off first my KF?
3. when im in KFU what boot mode should i pick before starting to root and install recovery?
i hope someone can answer my questions, i can't do anything about my KF because i don't have a wi-fi, so i'll just install custom roms like CM7 or CM9
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i want to root and install recovery using KFU but before i get started i just want to ask a few question.
1. i do i need a wi-fi connection in my kindle fire before using KFU?
2. when connecting my KF to my computer, will i turn off first my KF?
3. when im in KFU what boot mode should i pick before starting to root and install recovery?
i hope someone can answer my questions, i can't do anything about my KF because i don't have a wi-fi, so i'll just install custom roms like CM7 or CM9
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Hope this helps:
1. Yes as it will download the files needed for TWRP and root for u automatically.
2. Nope you do not need to turn off while you want to connect to the computer.
3. In most cases you do not need to choose what bootmode to use.
P.S. Remember to make use of the install driver function in the KFU before you do anything.
i have successfully rooted my KF without wi-fi then i proceed to installing the twrp also without wi-fi but unfortunately the KFU said file missing and then i was stuck at kindle fire logo
what will i do now?
ok i finally manage to get out of stuck kindle fire logo.
right now my KF is rooted and i want to install the twrp and fire, fire, fire.
if someone can answer my question it would be a big help
1. is there a way i can install the TWRP and Fire,Fire,Fire without kindle fire using wi-fi?
2. what will i install first, the TWRP or the Fire,Fire,Fire?
trycks said:
ok i finally manage to get out of stuck kindle fire logo.
right now my KF is rooted and i want to install the twrp and fire, fire, fire.
if someone can answer my question it would be a big help
1. is there a way i can install the TWRP and Fire,Fire,Fire without kindle fire using wi-fi?
2. what will i install first, the TWRP or the Fire,Fire,Fire?
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1. kindle fire does not need wifi to install FFF or TWRP
2. Install FFF, then TWRP
but when i tried to install the twrp first it says "missing recovery file" something like that. do i need to download this:
Extras(Will auto download, only for manual install users)
Apps.zip = Click Here (Place in a folder called apps)
TWRP = Click Here (Place in a folder called recovery)
trycks said:
but when i tried to install the twrp first it says "missing recovery file" something like that. do i need to download this:
Extras(Will auto download, only for manual install users)
Apps.zip = Click Here (Place in a folder called apps)
TWRP = Click Here (Place in a folder called recovery)
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if you are manually installing via adb shell commands then you will need those. If using KFU then the files that are needed are downloaded via your PC's internet connection and sent to your kindle
ok thanks for clarifying at first i thought that the KF will download the files
its still the same it says recovery.img missing
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its still the same it says recovery.img missing
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it's cause the download link was down
now it should work again:
http://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img
maybe download it manually, rename to recovery.img and place it in the recovery folder of kfu
ty
thanks b63 you helped me again
My kindle fire is rooted by using BurritoRoot3 method,with firefirefire bootloader and CWR recovery installed.
this morning,my kindle fire automatically rebooted,then stuck at CWR recovery interface,i realized it may related with a new ota update,so i shutdown kindle fire and power on,it reboot into recovery as long as it going into the os.
now i can boot into the recovery but cannot into the os,what should i do ?
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My kindle fire is rooted by using BurritoRoot3 method,with firefirefire bootloader and CWR recovery installed.
this morning,my kindle fire automatically rebooted,then stuck at CWR recovery interface,i realized it may related with a new ota update,so i shutdown kindle fire and power on,it reboot into recovery as long as it going into the os.
now i can boot into the recovery but cannot into the os,what should i do ?
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I think I read somewhere that CWM stops the ota from installing so it starts bootlooping. Twrp would let the update go through but if it did, you would lose root anyway. Maybe using CWm you could install the 6.3 pre-rooted stock rom
I was having the same issue with twrp and this upgrade. To get out of the bootloop I used adb:
adb shell
idme bootmode 4000
reboot
It Didn't install the update but got me the kindle back. I then used eldarerathis rooted 6.3 image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569298:p
My kindle did the same thing it's because the OTA update doesn't work right with TWRP. Take a look at my thread. Basically you need to download the update, rename it update.zip put it in the root directory of the kindle, and then power up the kindle it will go into TWRP and click on the update/flash function (not sure what it's called off the top of my head right now) and let it do it's thing and you will be back to normal.
Alternatively if you don't feel like re-rooting your device, download this version and update it using the instructions above.
Thank you! This worked perfectly.
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My kindle did the same thing it's because the OTA update doesn't work right with TWRP. Take a look at my thread. Basically you need to download the update, rename it update.zip put it in the root directory of the kindle, and then power up the kindle it will go into TWRP and click on the update/flash function (not sure what it's called off the top of my head right now) and let it do it's thing and you will be back to normal.
Alternatively if you don't feel like re-rooting your device, download this version and update it using the instructions above.
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Laquox said:
My kindle did the same thing it's because the OTA update doesn't work right with TWRP. Take a look at my thread. Basically you need to download the update, rename it update.zip put it in the root directory of the kindle, and then power up the kindle it will go into TWRP and click on the update/flash function (not sure what it's called off the top of my head right now) and let it do it's thing and you will be back to normal.
Alternatively if you don't feel like re-rooting your device, download this version and update it using the instructions above.
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Do you have to wipe. Any "cache"? Or Factory reset...Or do you only do that if you are going to a different ROM. ?
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Do I have to install cwmtouch also if all I want to add is kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, to change the logo and keep TWRP?. I tried installing just kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, but can not gain SU.
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Do I have to install cwmtouch also if all I want to add is kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, to change the logo and keep TWRP?. I tried installing just kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, but can not gain SU.
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would try latest kfu 0.9.4 - point install latest firefirefire
hope this is 1.3 ...
palmheel said:
Do I have to install cwmtouch also if all I want to add is kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, to change the logo and keep TWRP?. I tried installing just kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, but can not gain SU.
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You can mix and match whatever bootloader/recovery combination you want. They are on separate partitions, so flashing one does not affect the other.
The only caveat is that you must have TWRP installed before changing the bootloader because the distribution image for TWRP is a boot image that actually boots up and flashes both the recovery and bootloader partitions on its own. That boot image contains version 1.0 of FFF, so you must then overwrite it with whatever bootloader you want.
As a side note, the install process for TWRP is unintuitive and may be confusing for new users to have to use the "fastboot boot" instead of the "fastboot flash recovery" command. I've gone back and forth with CWMR and TWRP several times and it's annoying to have to flash the bootloader over and over again in the process. To get around that, I've extracted just the recovery image from the TWRP distribution and have been using that image instead. I've thought about posting it somewhere, but I didn't want to piss off the developers. Maybe if there's some demand for it, I'll just upload it somewhere to see if anybody comes screaming at me... or maybe just write a how-to for those interested in extracting it for themselves.
I've packaged it in my new method, I just need time to sit down n rewrite the install directions and update my post. I've also compiled a blue cwm of sbloods version 1.1 which will also be in the updated method.
but yup, what kinfaun said lol
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Ok. Now, for the the dumb question of the day. I do have TWRP installed, I tried using the instructions on the [gscript][march11]install cwm recovery+bootloader of your choice (no fastboot) thread, but keep getting error with SU.
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Ok. Now, for the the dumb question of the day. I do have TWRP installed, I tried using the instructions on the [gscript][march11]install cwm recovery+bootloader of your choice (no fastboot) thread, but keep getting error with SU.
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You might want to wait a day or two for everyone to finish banging away at the 6.3 update. I got one of the $139 refurbs and it came today. Trying to root it, I'm running into SU/permission issues too. Something changed but everyone just don't know what yet. From what I can tell, this is fairly standard every time Amazon releases an update.
Got it installed. Thanks to all, for all the info. Learning, all this is new to me.
All attempts that I have made to root this Kindle Fire on 6.3.3 have failed. KFU fails. Towelroot fails. Nothin.
Ok so I was at least able to use a factory cable to put the kindle into fastboot mode. After that I was able to flash FFF and TWRP and then flash a stock 6.3.2 Rom which is rootable.
Also you can install custom rom from this point. Not exactly succeeding and rooting stock 6.3.3 but its a start.
Kafluke said:
Ok so I was at least able to use a factory cable to put the kindle into fastboot mode. After that I was able to flash FFF and TWRP and then flash a stock 6.3.2 Rom which is rootable.
Also you can install custom rom from this point. Not exactly succeeding and rooting stock 4.3.3 but its a start.
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Please post steps in flashing firmware 6.3.2. I'm not sure if I'll be able to go back though, because I reset to factory settings before I realized that the firmware had updated.
Kafluke said:
Ok so I was at least able to use a factory cable to put the kindle into fastboot mode. After that I was able to flash FFF and TWRP and then flash a stock 6.3.2 Rom which is rootable.
Also you can install custom rom from this point. Not exactly succeeding and rooting stock 4.3.3 but its a start.
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So how are you preventing it from taking another OTA of 6.3.3?
has anyone figured out the root for kindle fire on 6.3.3
jblindy said:
Please post steps in flashing firmware 6.3.2. I'm not sure if I'll be able to go back though, because I reset to factory settings before I realized that the firmware had updated.
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Here's what I did:
1. Download stock firmware 6.3.2 (latest KFU will get it for you)
2. Copy stock firmware to internal storage on Kindle Fire (boot up Kindle Fire and plug into your computer)
3. Download TWRP 2.2.2.1 from here. (thanks sd_shadow).
4. Download latest FFF using KFU
5. Put TWRP and FFF into a folder on your computer that contains fastboot.exe
6. Make a factory cable (google "make Motorola factory usb cable") or you can buy a premade one or an adapter. Here's an example.
7. Turn off your Kindle fire and unplug it from your computer.
8. Plug one end or your factory cable into your computer.
9. Open a windows command prompt from the folder with fastboot.exe in it.
10. While the Kindle Fire is turned off, plug in the other end of your factory cable into the Kindle fire. This should throw the KF into fastboot mode.
If you have created the factory cable correctly you should see the red Kindle screen but it should stay there and you should get a new driver install notification in Windows. Install the driver for the Kindle Fire bootloader.
11. From your Windows command prompt run these commands (substituting the names for whatever your TWRP and FFF files are called)
Code:
fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery twrp.img
fastboot -i 0x1949 flash bootloader fff.bin
fastboot -i 0x1949 oem idme bootmode 4000
fastboot -i 0x1949 reboot
Now you should see the FireFireFire blue screen and you can push the power button to boot into TWRP. From TWRP you can wipe everything and install the 6.3.2 file you placed on the Kindle Fire earlier (if you want to flash a KitKat ROM like CM11 or others then you must re flash recovery with latest TWRP from here). After you are using 6.3.2 you can run latest KFU and it will work just fine.
So how are you preventing it from taking another OTA of 6.3.3?
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I don't know how to prevent it. Maybe its best to just flash CM11 on it.
Cool.....thanks!
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From TWRP you can wipe everything and install the 6.3.2 file you placed on the Kindle Fire earlier.
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Unless newest Twrp is different, only Twrp 2.2.2.1 or lower can install stock kindle firmware. Other TWRP versions will bootloop the Kindle Fire, and Twrp will need to be flashed in bootloader
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Unless newest Twrp is different, only Twrp 2.2.2.1 or lower can install stock kindle firmware. Other TWRP versions will bootloop the Kindle Fire, and Twrp will need to be flashed in bootloader
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Correct or cannibal open touch recovery but it won`t flash Kit Kat.
sd_shadow said:
Unless newest Twrp is different, only Twrp 2.2.2.1 or lower can install stock kindle firmware. Other TWRP versions will bootloop the Kindle Fire, and Twrp will need to be flashed in bootloader
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Well, whatever KFU .99 downloaded, that's what I flashed. And it worked. I don't have the Kindle anymore to check TWRP version .
I don't want anyone bricking their fire because of my steps though. I'll edit the post. Thanks sd_shadow!
KFU will download latest twrp the first time you select install twrp, after that will install same version, and will not check for update, unless you remove twrp.IMG from folder.
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Has OTA root keeper been tried? Voodoo or Superuser option. It needs to be backed up before update is installed
need help with a stock 6.3.3
Ever since my wife asked me to try to root her stock 1st generation Kindle Fire (currently running 6.3.3), I have had a hell of a time trying to get this thing rooted. I will also admit that I am a relative newbie when it comes to rooting devices. I am perfectly comfortable doing a few tweaks here and there, even through using command-line tools, but this is my first attempt at trying to root a device. I have both my MacBook Pro OSX (Mavericks) laptop and my Windows 7 desktop at my disposal, but I have only been able to make limited progress in rooting the KF.
I have used a number of tools (which I realize are mostly variants of one another): Kindle Fire Utility 0.9.9, RootKindleFire631 (from RootKindleFire.com), Breakdroid, and KindleFireRootMacLinux (which basically uses the ZergRush method). All to no avail. The most common error that I get is "Couldn't write bp1, panic". Hope this helps some developers out there to finally find a feasible rooting method for this one.
Curse you, Amazon, you may have won this round, but the war is far from over!
I created a prerooted 6.3.3 update that can be installed in twrp.
I have Installed with 2.2.2.1 and 2.7.1.0 versions of Twrp
Didn't change much,
I replaced stock install script with tobiascuypers' install script from [Rom] Stock 6.3.2 [Mods] [04.22.13] [Primary/Alt]
Added Root files (busybox, su, SuperSU)
Added Google Apps (Framwork, Play Store, Calendar, Google Voice, Google +)
Added other apps (Root Browser, Go Launcher, Facebook)
Instructions
Download update-kindle-prerooted.6.3.3.v1.zip, place on sd card, wipe data (may be optional), install with TWRP
wipe cache, reboot, may take a few mins to boot first time.
Tested Google play (signed in, downloaded apps)
Didn't test amazon sign in.
Edit; see my [2014][Pre-Rooted][Stock]System Version 6.3.3-Original Kindle Fire Only thread
sd_shadow said:
I created a prerooted 6.3.3 update that can be installed in twrp.
I have Installed with 2.2.2.1 and 2.7.1.0 versions of Twrp
Didn't change much,
I replaced stock install script with tobiascuypers' install script from [Rom] Stock 6.3.2 [Mods] [04.22.13] [Primary/Alt]
Added Root files (busybox, su, SuperSU)
Added Google Apps (Framwork, Play Store, Calendar, Google Voice, Google +)
Added other apps (Root Browser, Go Launcher, Facebook)
Instructions
Download update-kindle-prerooted.6.3.3.v1.zip, place on sd card, wipe data (may be optional), install with TWRP
wipe cache, reboot, may take a few mins to boot first time.
Tested Google play (signed in, downloaded apps)
Didn't test amazon sign in.
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Does this require a factory cable?
Xeddicus said:
Does this require a factory cable?
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if 6.3.3 is installed already yes a fastboot cable is needed to install fff bootloader and twrp.
If 6.3.2. Is installed, use kindle fire utility, to install bootloader and twrp.
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@sd_shadow - Installed fine with only dalvik / cache wipe over existing 6.3.3 (I removed most of the 3rd party apps prior to install).
Probably deserves it's own thread in development.
First thing I did was freeze OTASilentInstall.apk in /system/app/. I may consider removing it completely in the future.
Thanks for this. :good:
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@sd_shadow - Installed fine with only dalvik / cache wipe over existing 6.3.3 (I removed most of the 3rd party apps prior to install).
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If I make a new version I will remove updater, and maybe all the extra apps other than play store, and ones need for root (supersu, binary, and busybox),
Probably deserves it's own thread in development.
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Yes thought I would start a thread in Dev, but wasn't sure about the new General Public License rules (posting sources like the kernel), most of the devices I follow have it stickied in the dev section, but I see it is not in Kindle dev section?
First thing I did was freeze OTASilentInstall.apk in /system/app/. I may consider removing it completely in the future.
Thanks for this. :good:
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I hadn't really looked for the updater apk, so that will help.
Thanks for the feedback
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Yes thought I would start a thread in Dev, but wasn't sure about the new General Public License rules (posting sources like the kernel), most of the devices I follow have it stickied in the dev section, but I see it is not in Kindle dev section?
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You're not modifying the kernel, therefore there is no source (or changes) to post. GPL does not apply in this case.
Just specify in your thread that the ROM contains the stock, unmodified Amazon kernel.
If anyone beefs you on it, you can point them to this post.
overground said:
You're not modifying the kernel, therefore there is no source (or changes) to post. GPL does not apply in this case.
Just specify in your thread that the ROM contains the stock, unmodified Amazon kernel.
If anyone beefs you on it, you can point them to this post.
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Thanks Posted here [2014][Pre-Rooted][Stock]System Version 6.3.3-Original Kindle Fire Only