I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
Kalata_rs said:
I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Given that hardly any applications are available specifically for ICS yet, yet alone an unavailable future version, I personally don't see this as an issue.
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Dave
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I probably won't. I actually like the mobile OS on my mobile phone, regardless of the screen resolution and size.
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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Why would google release a tablet OS after merging both lines rather successfully? And I do use my Note with ICS tablet mode as daily driver.
Also, we'll probably see Jelly Bean phones come out after a while, ICS was previewed in May 2011 but was released in November.
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Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I was looking forward to use it that way ever since I bought the note. Then I finally had the chance to try imilka's aosp ics in tablet mode. It was like a dream come true at first but then I noticed letters look so small making it unpractical as a daily driver. My new dream is to be able to use the phone as it is in high resolution w/ big letters but apps to be opened in tablet resolution by choice.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
Truth be told, we don't know that yet. Let google first announce it then we can speculate if it'll come or not.
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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ICS was made to bridge the gap between tablet and phone...there is no way they will split the two again.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
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But where is the logic? Google makes Honeycomb, and it fails big time (let's be honest guys, it did) so they make ICS which will unify Android again and it will run on both phones and tablets. A part of the fragmentation is gone.
But not for long..
Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Sounds perfectly logical to me.
As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused, although it is possible to install it, its not going to have the comms requirements to be able to use the note as anything else but a tablet.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
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As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused
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First of all, yes, ICS is just as much an update to HC. There is nothing phone-specific about it and as should be fairly obvious, there's plenty of tablet available with ICS nowadays. Secondly, no, Google went to great lengths to unify both the tablet version of Android and the phone version of it, they won't start breaking the unification again.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come
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As said, Google shot itself in the foot by separating phone and tablet versions of Android. ICS was the first step in unifying them. The plan has always been to do a new major version once a year and obviously ICS was last-year.
, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
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Install ICS on your tablet then. There is absolutely nothing stopping you.
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Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os".
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No, they don't. That's unsubstantiated fanboy-rumour. There is no way of dual-booting Windows 8 and another OS unless Microsoft specifically allows it for several reasons: Windows 8 requires the system to have SecureBoot enabled and not disableable and that Microsoft will not sell the ARM-version of Windows 8 to anyone else than official Microsoft-partners.
Go ahead and google a bit, read about SecureBoot and you'll see already why that is just a rumour.
JellyBean will possibly have dual-boot, yes, but it won't support Win8; it'll be for booting between Android and ChromeOS, and possibly Linux.
Honeycomb was a band-aid release to give manufacturers an OS that ran semi-decently on tablets as the existing 2.x releases wouldn't scale properly and were completely unsuitable (didn't stop some manufacturers using it though, e.g. the original Galaxy Tab).
There's some info as well as the usual assortment of blind speculation in this article: http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...-things-we-want-to-see-in-android-5-0-1036013
Also info from a press conference regarding how ICS will unify the tablet & phone UI's: http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/01/nvi...ice-cream-sandwich-to-unify-android-platform/
Unless Google would like to commit OS-suicide, there is no waythey would release a separate version for "larger" devices at this stage. The "fragmentation" issue is bad enough as it is without them back pedalling, there will only be one combined Android OS for all devices from ICS onwards.
Regardless though, odds of the Note getting Jellybean via an official release is basically nil. I for one won't care, by the time it'd be likely to actually be available I'll probably have a newer device anyway.
Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
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Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
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Certainly hope so my friend, it is good news indeed if they are concentrating on one solid sytem for all devices, that would be awesome, although, i wont Knock Honeycomb and ive never updated from it because like so many others i need stability and have feared venturing into the unknown abyss so far, honeycomb is great software and works well enough so im not too worried, once ics official is released then i will have a look at it.
But yer thanks for all the feedback guys, thats great to hear that Jellybean is going to be multisystem and with the info youve provided then yes id have to agree with you all that it probably is going to be multiplatform, which is what id initially hoped it would be, great stuff.
Any speculation on month of release, of course its difficult to guess bearing in mind ICS seems to have been around for quite a while now, but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
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but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
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The release of Jelly Bean is in no way or form connected to when phone manufacturers ship ICS. ICS was already shown back in May in 2011, so that's almost a year ago now. Also, Jelly Bean is not as much of changing the fundamentals of Android as an OS as ICS was, it's more about honing the little things, smoothing the corners and putting the dressing on top like e.g. voice control.
That said, I assume JB will be released during Q3, not Q2. It'll likely be previewed during Q2, though, and that's when Google will announce the up-and-coming features and fixes.
When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
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When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
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Android never released versions A and B, those names are lost... As far as the public is concerned, it started with :
Cupcake
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice Cream Sandwhich
Jelly Bean
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You missed your chance with C... marshmallow still holds a chance!
ICS was previewed in May 2011 and launched in October 2011. Over 5 months later ICS can only be found in 2-3% of current Android devices.
I have to wonder how putting on even more pressure on developers and raising the frustration of the users by launching version 5.0 while the huge majority is still waiting for the v4 update could help your market share.
This is a good read regarding this issue : http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Jelly-Bean-Android-Gingerbread-Ice-Cream-Sandwich,news-14545.html
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The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.
Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.
Dont know
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Itaintrite said:
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.
I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol
There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else
I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?
I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.
Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.
Thanks for making my point.
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
I'd like to see iPhone OS (iPOS) stop ripping off android's features.
That was my troll of the day.
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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intruda119 said:
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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I know theres not point in speculating about Ice Cream Sandwich since were unsure of what it will bring to the table.
My question was WHAT would YOU like it to improve on or what features you'd like it to bring, you know, CHANGES....
I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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****, that's a LONG way away, I hope for the love of god it's WORTH the wait.
For the amount of time it's taken it should come out perfect or near perfect at the very least...
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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It was from Samsung Italy if I remember right. But I would say mid-end January maximum.
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imo note is designed for ics. samsung was aiming to release it with ics in early 2012 but too much interest from the market made them release earlier. but google (and maybe samsung) wants nexus chrome to be the first ics phone on the market so they cant release it with ics. so i think gingerbread roms for note are just for waste time until the google and samsung decides nexus did fine. and as i believe samsung aimed ics for the note i think they are not spending much time on gingerbread roms for note. so when ics is realeased i am expecting everything to be improved.
Whilst ICS will undoubtedly bring all sorts of improvements to the Note, until such time that a decent ecosystem of Honeycomb/ICS apps is built up (and remember, there aren't a great deal of Honeycomb specific tablet apps either), the vast majority of apps are still targeting 2.x iterations (Gingerbread, Froyo etc) of Android, which means that 2.x apps are likely to be de rigueur for some time yet.
I'm as keen as the next guy to get ICS onto my Android devices (Note, GTab, Transformer etc), but without application support it really doesn't matter too much.
Enjoy the Note for what it is today, not what it may be tomorrow!
Regards,
Dave
I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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As far as I know (at least that's what I saw on Desire Android Development for ICS ROMs) that 'always visible' bar can be "disabled", at least the keys on it. Some more experienced user may correct me tho
The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
ICS for Galaxy Note
I heard ICS for Note will come on 2nd quarter. Still waiting for the release.
Also Galaxy SIII is coming with ICS4. is there any major firmware difference in Note and SIII? Why we cant use the same for Note and release the official release?
And I thought that we already have a sticky for these kind of discussions!!
ICS will be released soon and it will give few new functionality to the note..
some are as following:-
1 it will upgrade the proc by 9 cores (Intel Hardcore neon x9)
2 it will search for appropriate forums for you and automatically post in the right forums
SUCH AS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490986
Please post all ICS speculation info in the above mentioned thread !!
Meanwhile
Calling the dark forces : ORIGINAL_GANJAMAN where art thou???????
Was the ICS update for the S2 a wipe upgrade?
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kanej2006 said:
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
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Samsung never announces release dates in advance. We didn't get a real advance release date for S2, we won't have it for this device.
We don't know what to expect... Right now all leaks have Superbrick kernels, I suspect that's one of the things slowing down ICS for every device but the S2. Samsung tried to add some performance tweaks and FAILED MISERABLY and they're trying to figure out what the **** they broke now.
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The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
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Nope - they're an utter waste of screen space on devices with hardware keys.
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This thread was missed on the clean up, before the ICS Sticky thread was open.
Let's wait and watch.
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/16/android-5-0-jelly-bean-could-launch-as-early-as-this-summer-rumor/
I really wouldn't really be too surprised if we did see Android Jelly Bean in the Summer, but more towards the end, say July or August time. There are already rumours of an Android 4.1 floating around as well.
Not sure about the whole booting into Chrome OS thing, that'd be like Google shooting down a whole market it's looking to tackle Ultrabooks with. Why buy an Android tablet AND have a Chrome book when you can have both. Though I doubt people would buy both anyway ha ha. Although, an Asus Transformer that docked to Chrome OS would be cool.
Perhaps we'll see this released alongside the fabled "Nexus Tablet" said to be coming, which I would absolutely love to see.
Cheers for sharing
Is Google going to forget me. My 9020a would love an official ICS. It would be neat to see some 5.0 out there though.
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Wow... amazing!! but...I think rumor is just rumor
And all of sudden, I want Jelly Bean' UI is violet!!
Goggle shouldn't release it until 2013 in my opinion.
I think that to roll out a big update in less than a year is bad for android. The time that Google started to have one OS on all devices (mobiles and tablets) with ICS will probably lose this if the android 5.0 Jelly Beam role out so fast.
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I think that to roll out a big update in less than a year is bad for android. The time that Google started to have one OS on all devices (mobiles and tablets) with ICS will probably lose this if the android 5.0 Jelly Beam role out so fast.
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This summer sounds about right. Based on them taking about 6 months after releasing ICS to get it to the Nexus devices and probably another 6 months before other manufacturers start using it. That means if they announce JB this summer, towards the end of 2013 is when you will really see devices for it.
Fake. Hopefully
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Fake. Hopefully
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It makes sense that they will announce it this summer. When it actually ships, who knows. But they usually announce it months before release to give developers time to work with the api.
What if it's half true, 4.1 that's sound more like it
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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new os means a new nexus phone, so i doubt a new os is coming .. just a minor update if anything
Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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Think about it: it might be a new interface/design for a tablet, Android really need something solid if they want any chance of fighting iOS and windows RT.
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Billchen0014 said:
I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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Considering that it seems like RAM usage is going relatively well within ICS, i can't see any worry about that there. 1GB would've helped in any situation, not just moving toward JB which likely wouldn't make a difference. That's the main thing that could have held the NS back. I'm with you unless IO implies anything otherwise. I'm thinking alot more will have to do with dual and quad core setups than our NSs single, particularly with the idea of constant framerates in mind. I see how there isn't that much left to do in the same environment and considering how much effort was put into ICS little will change that's not well below what we see happening, and most of that relates directly to performance and basically making the UI smoother, prettier and maybe a touch more colourful.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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I think that if it's more bloated and non-optimized, even less handsets could possibly get it then ICS. So I'm more positive NS will get it
Seeing as ICS was meant to be a unification of tablet/smartphone OS, I don't think they would release another tablet exclusive OS to tear that unity apart again. Also, if we're learning from the past here, the Nexus One got two updates before losing support so Jelly Bean should be the final update for the Nexus S.
Also, since ICS was a major interface revamp, I think Jelly Bean's gonna be focusing on other parts so really, Nexus S does not have any reason not to be able to support it. We'll see though
Have you seen this?
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/20/did-we-just-get-a-sneak-peak-at-jelly-bean-in-google-io-screenshot/#
Seems that the new version will be like froyo / GB transition, more improvement, better visuals. Maybe our devices will get the update.
Yea I'd be happy with a few extra features like magel but the main thing for me is probably just speed and making things look a little nicer ..
I hope they call it 4.1 if it's a smallish update though otherwise will have the same issues iOS six had in that really is like 5.5
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/2...in-play-store-outs-jelly-bean-as-android-4-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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What makes you say that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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True...
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This video has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus S, so what makes you say we won't be getting it?! Galaxy Nexus has also been the first to get 4.0, so what?
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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"all the way" is stretching it though. We got from 2.3.6 to 4.0.4. Much better than the Nexus One in that respect.
Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Agree with you here. Minor updates are usually pushed, major ones aren't necessarily. I think the only reason the Nexus S got ICS is that there would have been an outcry if we didn't. Seriously, a Google phone with absolutely no upgrade? That would have been ridiculous.
Android 4.2 "Key Lime Pie" is already in testphase
The new Android version will not be 5.0, it will be 4.2. This version is to be tested, according to server logs already.
The associated device is, according to the sources already leaked. Androidandme believed that it is a variant of the Nexus LG Optimus G.
On the market, the Android 4.2 mobile phone would come before November.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-features-most-wanted
This isn't news, it's been mentioned by a few people now.
Edit: considering jb hasn't rolled out worldwide, I can only imagine when we will get this on our phones.
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Why havent you posted this in here?
Its a sticky on the front page...
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Why havent you posted this in here?
Its a sticky on the front page...
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because its not jelly bean! its Key Lime Pie .. i changed the title because i did a mistake
I was kinda hoping for 4.1 in the UK before we started getting excited about the next version...
Still waiting for jellybean that's suppose to be rolling out
If it really does release around November along with a new Nexus device, I'm ditching my S3.
Let me taste that jelly bean for a minute first. I wish there was some kinda youtube on KLP..wanna see what it does differently than jelly bean.
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TBH i'm getting a bit fed up with this.
Google need to get everyone on the platform 4.1 and then once the 2.3.4 starts to disappear from users moving to newer devices on 4.1 then introduce 4.2 or 5.0 later
IF this is the case i'll be using whatever ROM is available and I wont be busting a gut to move up as it's becoming most tiresome.
I can't understand everyone moaning about not having Jellybean on the SGS3's. I've been running Jellybean on mine for ages.
After all your on xda forums, try taking control of your life's and your smartphones and flash JB yourselves instead on moaning that you have't got it.
It's a 10 minute job that anyone can do. Simple.
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TBH i'm getting a bit fed up with this.
Google need to get everyone on the platform 4.1 and then once the 2.3.4 starts to disappear from users moving to newer devices on 4.1 then introduce 4.2 or 5.0 later
IF this is the case i'll be using whatever ROM is available and I wont be busting a gut to move up as it's becoming most tiresome.
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It's not Google's fault cause the OEMS take months to apply theyre custom skins, or that the carriers delay the updates for no apparent reason. They are the ones which have to accelerate this process!
Google needs to innovate, to polish things, to make Android truly the best and most complete mobile operating system. (now that everyone has a smartphone and/or a tablet and the competition is higher than ever)
//If I remember correctly at the Conference where JB was released Google said that they will share the new code with the OEMs months before the announcement of a new version of Android so that they could be prepared with the updates.
From experience
4.2 will not be developed by Uncle Sammy for sgs3 rather it will need to be ported. And by the time google have a stable release of 4.2, Sammy will just about fine tweaked JB in around 4-6 months time.
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Maybe 2-3 months if we are lucky
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From experience
4.2 will not be developed by Uncle Sammy for sgs3 rather it will need to be ported. And by the time google have a stable release of 4.2, Sammy will just about fine tweaked JB in around 4-6 months time.
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Maybe 2-3 months if we are lucky
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It's not always the case. I read an article recently about the previous models getting jelly bean, like the tab 7 plus and 7.7. So they got upgraded twice from hc to jb. So it's possible we might be able to taste key lime pie but we'll have to wait again as always. Or just flash like crazy.
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TBH i'm getting a bit fed up with this.
Google need to get everyone on the platform 4.1 and then once the 2.3.4 starts to disappear from users moving to newer devices on 4.1 then introduce 4.2 or 5.0 later
IF this is the case i'll be using whatever ROM is available and I wont be busting a gut to move up as it's becoming most tiresome.
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Why does this even bother you? So you can tell your ios friends that 67% are Now on Jellybean? Who the f cares? The people who give a crap about the latest updates know how to use google and can get then easily.
If you want to sit on stock and stew then fine, but stop crying when there's loads of alternatives.
If it's version 4.2 then it'll look like JB and ICS. Although I hate the AOSP look I'll try it.
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LBTaylor1984 said:
TBH i'm getting a bit fed up with this.
Google need to get everyone on the platform 4.1 and then once the 2.3.4 starts to disappear from users moving to newer devices on 4.1 then introduce 4.2 or 5.0 later
IF this is the case i'll be using whatever ROM is available and I wont be busting a gut to move up as it's becoming most tiresome.
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You suggest that Google should stop improving upon Android and developing newer versions with innovative new features that keeps Android cutting edge and good competition, and instead focus on coding for SAMSUNG, LG HTC and so forth?
What a fantastic idea! I can hardly believe they haven't thought about this.
Im just curious how different it is from JB. I was thinking of flashing and rooting..but this time ima roll stock. I did the rooting cyanogenmod 7 thing with my old GT5830 (galaxy ace). But then again if the new Nexus has KLP..knowing me..ima wait til i see it..then flash it to this phone..Man XDA is a lifesaver
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I can't understand everyone moaning about not having Jellybean on the SGS3's. I've been running Jellybean on mine for ages.
After all your on xda forums, try taking control of your life's and your smartphones and flash JB yourselves instead on moaning that you have't got it.
It's a 10 minute job that anyone can do. Simple.
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Because this would mean they have to read guides. And stop moaning??? What's the fun in that?
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Google needs to innovate, to polish things, to make Android truly the best and most complete mobile operating system..
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This is kind of a dream. Google Android is like a base for a soup. Samsung, HTC, etc.. are adding their own recipee to the mix and this is what is ruining the whole thing. Pure Google Nexus is much more beautiful and smooth and trouble free than the ugly Samsung UI.
4.2? Meh..
I will be more interested in 5.0 which I believe we will see a huge difference.
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well if if next nexus devices really release 4.2 I wonder galaxy s2 getting or not
since should be not much different