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Hey, could someone with the fone in hand confirm if Mirroring is possible through MHL as well as general video/picture sharing?
Cheers
Nobody knows, no one have a mhl cable atm
I'm hoping to be able to test this soon, as the MHL consortium are trying to source an MHL cable/adapter for me, if they are able to get one (they seem to be having some difficulty at present) then I will upload videos etc to demo this functionality. Barring them being able to supply me one then we'll be waiting until June, when the Samsung adapters are scheduled for release (listed at Clove).
Hey there NZtechfreak, I've seen your video of the SGS with bluetooth keyboard/mouse will full mirroring over rca.
Thats exactly what i want to be able to do , and I assume you are in the same boat.
I'm getting my SGS2 either today or tomorrow, so if i can somehow source a cable, i'll try it and report back here as well.
Thanks
Burko, I'll wait for your tests!!! I want to do the same thing. galaxy s II, mhl mirroring, bluetooth keyboard/mouse: a little netbook.
Thanks!!!
So, I know it just came out today, but damn this device sounds amazingly superior.
So does anyone know if it has HDMI out or Micro-USB to HDMI out? Anything about OTG so we can use usb keyboards, mice, flash drives, etc?
I am seriously considering selling my iPods for this thing. I already have a Kindle Fire, but I might sell that too for this thing...
Cl8rs said:
So, I know it just came out today, but damn this device sounds amazingly superior.
So does anyone know if it has HDMI out or Micro-USB to HDMI out? Anything about OTG so we can use usb keyboards, mice, flash drives, etc?
I am seriously considering selling my iPods for this thing. I already have a Kindle Fire, but I might sell that too for this thing...
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HDMI out through MHL otg suppport is unknown but considering its a nexus it will be easy to add so consider it supported
aaronpoweruser said:
HDMI out through MHL otg suppport is unknown but considering its a nexus it will be easy to add so consider it supported
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That is what i am thinking, since it is a nexus product the developers should be able to rape the nexus7 with alot of goodies.
If it does not have the innards to support it, MHL support might not be so easy to add in. I'm just hoping they're not holding back for the sake of Nexus Q sales. But I suspect, that may be exactly what is happening.
We'll see, I hope it has the support built right in.
USB keyboards, mice and "other devices" are supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27986578
Confirmed, no MHL support!
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USB keyboards, mice and "other devices" are supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27986578
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Other things may be supported, however, Engadget has confirmed the Nexus 7 does not support MHL. It has no way to connect an HDMI cable and get video output to a TV/monitor. Ah yes, it appears they are holding back for sales of that Nexus Q...
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Other things may be supported, however, Engadget has confirmed the Nexus 7 does not support MHL. It has no way to connect an HDMI cable and get video output to a TV/monitor. Ah yes, it appears they are holding back for sales of that Nexus Q...
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Where in that article does it confirm no MHL support? They even suggest using an MHL adapter if you want HDMI out...
[Edit] I see at the very end of the post they updated. I missed it the first time[/Edit]
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Ok guys i have noticed one thing since the jelly-bean boot came thundering down apon us and we made the break within hours to get jelly b running for the thankf of dev's alike as randomblame and waydownsouth.
Have we stopped checking or official though? did a search and seems there may be offical jelly bean for us.!!!........
be it that we may have to wait until the next big android update is due to get it from our update-unreliable Acer lol.
just dont understand why the site says the a500 is only available in india......err im in london bought close by retail mofo.
http://www.themobileindian.com/news/7795_Acer-to-upgrade-several-Iconia-tablet-to-Android-4.1
Of their different tablets (100, 200, 700.. etc) only the 500 series is available in India. Not you can only buy it in India. Those are the only ones you can buy in India.
and good find. WDS is doing excellent work, and at worst, this would only drastically speed up his efforts.
Anthony820 said:
Of their different tablets (100, 200, 700.. etc) only the 500 series is available in India. Not you can only buy it in India. Those are the only ones you can buy in India.
and good find. WDS is doing excellent work, and at worst, this would only drastically speed up his efforts.
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i would say its pretty likely as the a500 is one of the acer flagship tablets :victory:
Will USB devices still be supported in JB (and future releases)? The number of tablets with USB ports is decreasing.
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Will USB devices still be supported in JB (and future releases)? The number of tablets with USB ports is decreasing.
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They should be. The new thing is USB OTG. That pretty means with the right adapter( Micro USB to full size USB) you can still do USB host( mice keyboards, thumb drives etc). On phones I think this is a good idea, but on tablets I think its a bad idea. The full saize port was one of the reasons I bought the A500.
i would think, so android supposed to be adding more and more applicable usb drivers to accept more usb "add-ons" it wouldnt make sense to start removing one of the best features of android, like Drewmungus says they will problably just change the format on new tabs for OTG, which in my opinion is bull****, i already have a full size to micro usb cable lol
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Will USB devices still be supported in JB (and future releases)? The number of tablets with USB ports is decreasing.
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Well, let's see... my Nexus 7 has a USB port. Jelly Bean came with the Nexus 7... so, I'd say... yes?
nice, I was thinking acer would just abandon it like many other companies that released newer upgraded versions
now I guess the only question is how long will it take to actually get the update...
I wasn't aware that the nexus 7 had a usb port on it, but I'm glad to hear it.
nexus 7 has a mini usb port (the same exact port used to connect the a500 to your comp) not a full size usb port if thats what you are referring too
Probably because a fullsize USB connector is almost as thick as an N7...
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Probably because a fullsize USB connector is almost as thick as an N7...
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Is the micro usb port a hub or just a charging port on the nexus sorry for ot. Also are there any other jb a500 roms on the web anywhere besides wds's?
It's a full-on USB port, that also charges. AFAIK, you can use standard USB devices with a dongle adapter, and you can also plug in a USB hub, too.
Thats interesting to know thanks I may have to get one after all :laugh:
Does anyone with a Tab 4 have HDMI out working and if so which cable/adapter are you using?
I have ordered a cheap ebay cable for a Tab 3 8.0/10.1 that is supposed to have the Samsung 11 pin MLH usb plug. Does the Tab 4 use the same 11 pin jack as the Tab 3? I also saw a post here about screen mirroring for the 7.0 but nobody answered....the specs for both the Tab 3 7 and Tab 4 7 on the Samsung site show NO screen mirroring, only 8.0 and 10.1. That fact alone leads me to believe the Tab 3 cable will work.
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Does anyone with a Tab 4 have HDMI out working and if so which cable/adapter are you using?
I have ordered a cheap ebay cable for a Tab 3 8.0/10.1 that is supposed to have the Samsung 11 pin MLH usb plug. Does the Tab 4 use the same 11 pin jack as the Tab 3? I also saw a post here about screen mirroring for the 7.0 but nobody answered....the specs for both the Tab 3 7 and Tab 4 7 on the Samsung site show NO screen mirroring, only 8.0 and 10.1. That fact alone leads me to believe the Tab 3 cable will work.
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I tried it with a monoprice adapter and it did not work, I did not spend too much time messing with it though,
I think the screen mirroring built in is via DLNA to a Smart TV or other DLNA receiver.
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I tried it with a monoprice adapter and it did not work, I did not spend too much time messing with it though,
I think the screen mirroring built in is via DLNA to a Smart TV or other DLNA receiver.
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The specs say wired HDMI also so I am hoping the Tab 3 cable works. Is your adaper 5 pin or 11 pin, powered or unpowered. From what I have been reading the cable MUST be plugged in to USB power in addition to the tab for it to work. This is the one I have on order.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151312595134?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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The specs say wired HDMI also so I am hoping the Tab 3 cable works. Is your adaper 5 pin or 11 pin, powered or unpowered. From what I have been reading the cable MUST be plugged in to USB power in addition to the tab for it to work. This is the one I have on order.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151312595134?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Yeah my adapter is powered but I did not have it plugged into USB. I'll try it again.
So does the Tab 4 (specificly the 8.0) support HDMI out? I notice that the US website and Best Buy mentions HDMI, but the canadian samsung website doesn't mention it.
The MLH cable I got from China does NOT work. I do have hope for the future. There are no HDMI adapters available from Samsung at this time even though they say wired HDMI is supported with an adapter that they have not made available yet! I believe the hardware support is there but it is not implemented in the TouchWiz software.
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The MLH cable I got from China does NOT work. I do have hope for the future. There are no HDMI adapters available from Samsung at this time even though they say wired HDMI is supported with an adapter that they have not made available yet! I believe the hardware support is there but it is not implemented in the TouchWiz software.
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Hi I tried several adapters ordered by Amazon including this one Samsung ET-H10FAUWEGWW but no chance of getting HDMI a signal out.
Therefore I contacted Samsung using the Smart Tutor app of samsung and unfortunately after remote examining the device, they confirmed that MHL is NOT supported by this device. However this might apply only to the European versions.
So what, now I am so disappointed?! Does anybody know if Samsung maybe deactivated this feature in their ROMs, if so maybe we could get
HDMI out with a custom ROM in the future.
kind regards
Mjay
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You have to be careful in choosing an adapter for these. The following one did NOT work for my tab 4 10.1:
Go to amazon dot com/gp/product/B00ESM3Q7K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But this one specifically says it does, and comments seem to confirm it:
Go to amazon com/gp/product/B00KGP5SEC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have one on order, and I will post my results when I get it and try it.
Eric
I wish you luck with the second cable you mentioned, but I read all 24 pages of reviews for it and the Tab 4 is not mentioned as working in any review. Half the reviews say it doesn't even work with the devices listed!
Most CS staff have very little technical knowledge. I would not put one bit of faith in a CS rep saying, oh it's not listed in the adapter specs but it should work...lol.
I would lay odds that wired HDMI out is not implemented in the kernel we have now. There are a few reports here that people lost wired HDMI out on Tab 3 after the Kit Kat update.
Well, I would think that the tab 4 would be supported as the tab 3 was, but that is why I am getting the cheap adapter rather than the official Samsung one (that one is around $75 on Amazon, but $35-$39 elsewhere). Having been in IT, I have found that most of the problems that people have are self induced, i.e. they did not read the instructions, or took shortcuts. It is worth noting that there seems to be two Samsung MHL adapters, one for the phones and one for the tablets. I do not know why they would do that, it does not make sense to me, as it causes too much confusion.
Eric
Samsung has a history of changing cables and adapters for various devices as this page explains better than most.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/03/28/which-mhl-cable-should-i-buy/
I figure that they want to sell some $100 AllShare Cast dongles before they introduce an new hardware keyed 11 pin micro USB adapter!
I can confirm that my Canadian Tab 4 8.0 has the Samsung 11 pin micro USB jack.
I tried again after reading the reviews of that cable.....reboot both devices...powered from Tab 4 power wart....changed HDMI inputs on TV....screen mirroring on/off......NADA.....
Well, the Tab 4 does not support MHL. At the moment anyway. My 10.1 does have the 11 pin connector, AFAICT, but I get no results when plugging a cable in. BTW macbroom, my last post was not directed at you, just those who buy something and don't read the directions.
Eric
I recently purchased a AUVIO MHL adapter ( male micro USB to female HDMI) for my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 (sm-t530nu). It uses a external power supply and also included the Samsung 11 pin adapter. I had read on a website that it does support MHL so I didn't think it would be an issue. However, it did NOT work and I tried with and without the adapter. After some browsing I found a miracast/allshare dongle on amazon for 22$ with free shipping and it works like a charm for the screen mirroring. I did notice while browsing that best buy had a "accessory kit" for the tab 4 10.1 that included a wall/car charger, OTG cable, and a MHL adapter. It was a dongle that plugged into your TV HDMI port and had a USB port that you connected the tab 4s charger to. So maybe it does support it and they just made changes to the connectors pins. It may have just been a mislabeled product also, who knows.
HDMI for Tab 4s
I, too have been attempting to get my new Tab 4 10.1 to display via HDMI. And, like others, have had less than helpful information from Samsung's CSRs.
The setup I use with my Samsung S5 phone doesn't seem to work for my tablet, regardless of the order in which I hook everything up
I read elsewhere that the issue was related to the 5-pin vs. 11-pin connection, but adding an adapter for that in the mix didn't work either.
I'm not familiar with the Miracast/Allshare dongle - but that plugs into the TV, right? I had hoped to be able to display movies to a TV while on vacation, so won't know what type of TV (or associated ports) might be available...
I've found this EEEKit which is listed for the Tab 4 (bestbuy dot com/site/eeekit-bundle-3-in-1-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-4-10-1-t530mhl-to-hdmi-cable-otg-cable-sync-cable/1311158404.p?id=mp1311158404&skuId=1311158404&st=eeekit%20hdmi%20%22tab%204%22&cp=1&lp=1#tab=buyingOptions ) but no comments or reviews yet.
So, does this Tab 4 go back to the store?
As a side note: Does anyone else find that a tablet released several months ago is still considered "too new" to have accessories? Especially with a feature (HDMI and screen mirroring) that isn't new? Geesh!
calail said:
I, too have been attempting to get my new Tab 4 10.1 to display via HDMI. And, like others, have had less than helpful information from Samsung's CSRs.
...So, does this Tab 4 go back to the store?
As a side note: Does anyone else find that a tablet released several months ago is still considered "too new" to have accessories? Especially with a feature (HDMI and screen mirroring) that isn't new? Geesh!
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As much as I hate to say it, the new Tab 4 is going back to the store! I spent some time at Best Buy with their in-store Samsung rep, who made calls to *SOMEWHERE* to verify that the Tab 4 IS NOT COMPATIBLE with MHL connections. He tells me, the only way to disply your Tab screen on a TV is through AllShare Cast. Of course, he was willing to sell me their $65 connector! Since I've already purchased MHL adapters to use with my phones, I really don't want to invest in something else for the Tab. Just not that important.
Don't forget that the Allshare Cast dongle checks the flash counter and other things and thus will not work on a rooted Tab 4 or any other device. Sadly nobody has figured out how to patch out the check yet despite it being a problem for quite a while.
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Don't forget that the Allshare Cast dongle checks the flash counter and other things and thus will not work on a rooted Tab 4 or any other device. Sadly nobody has figured out how to patch out the check yet despite it being a problem for quite a while.
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What do you mean? Im rooted and mine works flawless..
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What do you mean? Im rooted and mine works flawless..
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Well it definitely does on the Galaxy S3. I couldn't get it working at all, searched the forums here, and found that information. Oh, and did your rooting change the flash counter or the official/custom status at all?
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Well it definitely does on the Galaxy S3. I couldn't get it working at all, searched the forums here, and found that information. Oh, and did your rooting change the flash counter or the official/custom status at all?
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Ohh okay, you mean that Knox nonsense. No, sorry I didn't understand what you mean't by that. Sorry ive only owned a samsung for a few weeks. Ive only had a Atrix HD so im use to flashing until my hearts content with no repercussion. However, Towelroot doesn't change the counter on the TAB 4 so simply rooting shouldn't be a problem if done correct. That's pathetic however, they really take away someone's ability to cast their screen because they enjoy modding/ flashing their devices? Terrible road to choose for a company with such nice devices.
Well, the good thing is that Chromecast does work on the Tab 4's. The bad news is that screen mirroring is in beta, and only supported on a few devices, officially. If you search for 'Enable Mirroring from any device', you will fine a thread on how to mirror from almost any unit via chromecast. Even though it is beta, it works on my Tab 4.
Eric
I been waiting for Google to release a new NP with better specs, however I really don't need 4K or Ethernet, so I am wondering if I should just build my own with the specs/features I wanted from the start?
Here's what I was thinking of doing.
1. Buy a round powered USB 2.0 hub, such as this.
2. Install a 500gb SSD in USB mode hidden inside the HUB (yes I can easily do this).
3. Build a short OTG cable, Micro to Mini USB.
4. Velcro the NP perfectly centered to the top of the round USB hub. Using velcro keeps the NP button available at least. And using a OTG cable instead of hard wiring the HUB to the NP also allows me to detach each section for easy access or NP resale.
Specs would then become:
Nexus Player with 500GB storage and 3 port USB Hub all built into one fairly small streaming device.
OR should I wait longer to see if Google does something like this anyway in 2016 (similar to the NVIDIA Shield)? The engineering and work would be pretty simple for this veteran Electronics Tech, but the wait for Google to do it is really getting on my nerves. If I do it, it will look damn near like a consumer product anyway, but if I wait for Google to do it it will probably have Ethernet and 4K/60 built in. Not sure if its worth building myself this device, this late in the NP life cycle.
Any takers/suggestions on my idea? Just not sure the next Nexus Player will be worth waiting for. lol, but it sure would be fun to build such a device myself.
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I been waiting for Google to release a new NP with better specs, however I really don't need 4K or Ethernet, so I am wondering if I should just build my own with the specs/features I wanted from the start?
Here's what I was thinking of doing.
1. Buy a round powered USB 2.0 hub, such as this.
2. Install a 500gb SSD in USB mode hidden inside the HUB (yes I can easily do this).
3. Build a short OTG cable, Micro to Mini USB.
4. Velcro the NP perfectly centered to the top of the round USB hub. Using velcro keeps the NP button available at least. And using a OTG cable instead of hard wiring the HUB to the NP also allows me to detach each section for easy access or NP resale.
Specs would then become:
Nexus Player with 500GB storage and 3 port USB Hub all built into one fairly small streaming device.
OR should I wait longer to see if Google does something like this anyway in 2016 (similar to the NVIDIA Shield)? The engineering and work would be pretty simple for this veteran Electronics Tech, but the wait for Google to do it is really getting on my nerves. If I do it, it will look damn near like a consumer product anyway, but if I wait for Google to do it it will probably have Ethernet and 4K/60 built in. Not sure if its worth building myself this device, this late in the NP life cycle.
Any takers/suggestions on my idea? Just not sure the next Nexus Player will be worth waiting for. lol, but it sure would be fun to build such a device myself.
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Awesome idea if you have the time for it, I really dont think Google will be making another streaming box anytime soon.
Yeah that's my fear too. For me having the Nexus name on my devices is of utmost importance. However with what Asus ceo said about developing many devices for Google at the moment makes me wonder if one of them could be a new NP.
Thanks for the reply.
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I'd do it just cuz it sounds cool as Hell. And you know it'll be awhile before they come out with the 500gb nexus player.
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I'd do it just cuz it sounds cool as Hell. And you know it'll be awhile before they come out with the 500gb nexus player.
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Yeah, I was thinking that 500gb might be a tad much anyway. I have a dozen retired SSD's lying around already, a bunch of 32gb models from OCZ, and several from Crucial and Intel in the 64gb, and 128gb range. Maybe one of those would be small enough to fit. I know most if not all of the newer SSD's from 2014, 2015 etc are very small inside when they are of say 128gb and 256gb because they usually only have one or two chips at most, thus the PCB's are very small. I bet the old OCZ drives I have are just too big. Oh heck with it, Ill open one up right now and take a peek, lol. BRB
OK, yeah the old OCZ Vertexs PCBs are too big I think to fit inside that round hub. I guess I need that hub in order to know for sure how much space I have to work with.
If you get it working post some pics
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If you get it working post some pics
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Sure thing :good:
The nexus player wasn't a success because of the issues early on which is a shame because now it really is a decent streaming box. I don't think we'll see anyone release something similar anytime soon. I only picked up one because of the fire sale at target and decided to replace my roku with it.
I'm going to install the PureNexus rom for the Nexus Player with an OTG cable and a usb/network dongle that was recently posted, will report back!
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I'm going to install the PureNexus rom for the Nexus Player with an OTG cable and a usb/network dongle that was recently posted, will report back!
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which usb/network dongle was that?
pumm3l said:
which usb/network dongle was that?
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Plugable USB2-E1000
You can get it via Ebay or NewEgg,
Amazon also has it, but they have screwed up this and 4 of my Prime Order deliveries in the past 10 days, delays and excuses each time. If you can avoid using Amazon, do so.
You can get a short micro-usb OTG cable for like under $1.50 easy on ebay. I think i might have gotten a few for 28 cents. Just bid on a few of them lol or pay the $1.83 buy it now. or it might be $1.50. seller is based in cali so shipping is quick. i'm using a targus 3 port hub for a laptop., and a logitech k400 keyboard/trackpad, and a 32 gb usb thumb drive from microcenter that was free. oh and i paid $15.xx for my nexusplayer on clearance from target.
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You can get a short micro-usb OTG cable for like under $1.50 easy on ebay. I think i might have gotten a few for 28 cents. Just bid on a few of them lol or pay the $1.83 buy it now. or it might be $1.50. seller is based in cali so shipping is quick. i'm using a targus 3 port hub for a laptop., and a logitech k400 keyboard/trackpad, and a 32 gb usb thumb drive from microcenter that was free. oh and i paid $15.xx for my nexusplayer on clearance from target.
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I would prefer to manufacture my own OTG cable with my own specs from the many cable parts I already have in stock. However, $15 for the NP is exactly what I been looking for and still have not found. I'm still looking and some day, maybe soon for Christmas sale or clearance I might find one. I could go to town everyday, day after day until it goes on sale but then I would have spent $1000 in gasoline just to find it for $15, lol. Probably best I just buy it for $50 at ebay I think, assuming it never goes on sale online again.