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need help: about to smash the phone on the wall

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need help. this is quickly going from my favorite phone to a PIECE OF CRAP I WANT TO SMASH ON THE WALL.
there's a thread i made yesterday. short version after rebooting the phone none of the apps in the sd card were accessible, the phone couldn't mount the sd card, and nothing would install in market. i flashed new roms, restored nandroid backups, nothing would fix the issue. finally narrowed it down to some file on the sd card. deleted all the files from the sd card and restored my last good nandroid and got the phone running, just had to re-install my apps.
i've spent all day installing all my apps (200+). everything was working just fine again. until i decide to reboot the phone. and now I'M BACK TO THE SAME ISSUE. none of the sd card apps work, in settings if i try to unmount the sd card i get a FC, switchpro can't change the mount status (says updating status but never changes the icon, so it's either unmounted or mounted, but wont change it), and nothing will install in the market.
i put back my original memory card (that i used yesterday in my testing) and the phone worked fine again. i installed root explorer (was on sd card, now to the phone). put my memory card back.
i am able to browse the sd card with root explorer. gallery sees the images from the sd card. beautiful widgets sees the skin files in the sd card. but the OS wont run any of my apps that are in the sd card and wont let me install anything.
i'm 100% if i delete all the files from the sd card and boot again, everything will work....but what the hell is causing this? i dont have any experimental/alpha apps that would do any damage after being installed. just a few apps and many games.
from my end it feels like there is a file that gets created at one point, that after rebooting the phone makes it so the phone can't mount the sd card, thus not able to install apps, run sd card apps, etc.
please give me some guidance here. i can't use my phone if i can't isntall apps!!!
i got so pissed almost smashed it
i'm using MetroDroid 1.0, rooted (nand too), customized matted blues theme. keep in mind the problem does not go away with a fresh install of the rom, or with a nand restore of cm6....i'm pretty sure it's down to a file issue within the sd card?

There is a file or app being installed on the sd card that is causing the sd card to corrupt.
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you really need 200 apps?
****, i'd say therein lies the root of your problems...

have you tried installing each app one at a time, and rebootung after each one? Eventually you'll run into the same issue, but at least then you'll know which app is causing it.
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fachadick said:
have you tried installing each app one at a time, and rebootung after each one? Eventually you'll run into the same issue, but at least then you'll know which app is causing it.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
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That's a lot of apps to go through to find the culprit.
I would try reformatting your card. Then go about installing your apps again. Besides that I have no idea, could be an app or a retarded lemon of a phone.

^^ what he said... Don't just delete the files on your memory card, format it!

Beejis said:
That's a lot of apps to go through to find the culprit.
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Well, yeah, its also a lot of rebooting - its more of a last resort kind of suggestion. To be used right before throwing it at the wall.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

please smash it PLEASE !!!
200 + apps FFS why in the hell do you need 200 + apps

i forget the apps 2 sd hack, I used to run it on my hero and nothing but issues cause of it

stangdriverdoug said:
There is a file or app being installed on the sd card that is causing the sd card to corrupt.
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that's my latest theory. i'm going to try renaming all the folders in the sd card and rebooting. seeing if i can pinpoint which folder first...then the file
turn said:
you really need 200 apps?
****, i'd say therein lies the root of your problems...
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well according to titanium backup i ahve about 310 apps installed. i have many games, most of which i play. then i have several live wallpapers, widgets, tools, media players, news apps, messaging apps, etc. i have everything organized with app organizer and it doesnt feel like that many.
tek818 said:
^^ what he said... Don't just delete the files on your memory card, format it!
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that's the thing. yesterday i reformatted in-phone and i also formatted in the computer. then put the files back on (made a backup first) and this happened after installing the apps. i think i rebooted maybe 3 times in the process of installing all the apps today. the last reboot was only to test the theory that on MetroDroid data only works if you reboot with Wi-Fi off. so i really wasn't expecting the whole thing to stop working again!
EDIT: where in the memory card exactly are the app files?

XDA will not tolerate this thread. Your profanity is unacceptable and unhealthy to some viewer. Admin please remove this tread and banned this user.

no need for all the pointless swearing. next time post more civil

Unless you have transferred said apps to your SD card they will not show.

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XDA will not tolerate this thread. Your profanity is unacceptable and unhealthy to some viewer. Admin please remove this tread and banned this user.
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really? thank you for your helpful post. i posted a very detailed and civil thread yesterday and where were you with helpful information? nowhere. and where is your helpful information now? nowhere. so why even come in the thread if you're not going to help?
@toast - thanks for editing the OP. i dont usually make the pissed off kind of threads but this time it served its purpose. the last two days i had a very well written, detailed thread explaining everything asking for help. i renamed it several times. bumped it 2-3 times. all i got was two responses. i post this one with profanity in the title and look at how many answers already. some of which seem to be pointing me somewhere right hopefully!
it's very frustrating to see picture threads and mod threads get useful (and useless) comments every minute and threads asking for help (i've seen this happen with my own threads in the past and many others) get ignored. specially considering by the time I get to ask for help i've spent hours trying to fix it on my own and researching before asking here.
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VOODOOTRIP i put back most of the files that were in the memory card prior to reformatting it. anyways i installed all the apps again today after that and haven't reformatted yet (what's the point?) so the apps are in the sd card. just need to figure out how to get the phone to access the card!
EDIT: i renamed all the folders in the sd card (without reformatting or deleting anything) and booted into the phone. was able to mount/unmount the card and install apps from market. so it is a file in there...now to figure out which one!

You can access the card from root exp. or from Astro? ie it's still showing the extension right? When was the last time it was working properly? What rom were you on when it first started happeneing? Have you downloaded any non market apps since then? Are all your roms on current update? You said you have tried both a sense and AOSP rom right?

i was able to narrow it down....it's a file within .androidsecure...so now i have to sort through 131 files in there. but at least there's a light at the end of the tunnel!
with .androidsecure renamed i am able to install apps, mount/unmount. etc. so it's got to be something in there that is loading when the phone loads...i wonder what?
i'll update when i find out in case anyone comes across this problem too.
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You can access the card from root exp. or from Astro? ie it's still showing the extension right? When was the last time it was working properly? What rom were you on when it first started happeneing? Have you downloaded any non market apps since then? Are all your roms on current update? You said you have tried both a sense and AOSP rom right?
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see info above (quickly....yes, no (astro is in sd card), about three days ago, MetroDroid, since then couldn't download/install anything, everything is updated, tried both CM6.0 and this rom. but see above. since problem is a file in the .androidsecure folder, whether i was wiping and going to cm6 or back to sense that file wouldn't be modified by the recovery wipe correct?

I know the problem its the 200 apps or one app not getting along with another app. You are the first person that I have come across that has that many apps 200+ apps is a crazy amount of apps.

jdh10475 said:
I know the problem its the 200 apps or one app not getting along with another app. You are the first person that I have come across that has that many apps 200+ apps is a crazy amount of apps.
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well there are 131 asec files in that folder. so at least 131 apps + the ones on the phone memory.
but why the surprise with the amount of apps? isn't that why we get 16gb and 32gb memory cards?

the problem file was
se.nena.nenamark1-1.asec
for the benchmark NenaMark
that was the last app i had installed before i overclocked my phone into rebooting. and that's when the problems starting. hindsight is always 20/20
new development. i installed another app and rebooted and the same error happened. NenaMark was off from the android_secure folder but i was back to 131 files. i removed some other apps and booted again and everything is fine. so it looks like 130 .asec files are the limit? at 131 files I get the same problem?
moved 130 of the 131 files back and the phone ran fine. put that one file in, and problems came back. removed the file and all is well again.

I was having problems with my phone and once I accidents ran a check disk via win 7 it found and fixed some corruption, also my symptoms went away. In fact even my video recordings loom much better.
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[Q] Any hope for my SD Card?

Short story: Was running the latest (as of Dec. 4-5) ICS ROM(s) - the ones with the SD card bug - and my SD card appears to be shot.
Long story:
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I had been using the various betas of the ICS ROMs since I noticed Tytung's first Alpha was out and the ROMs had been improving rapidly. I guess when the headphones issue was fixed it caused problems with reading the SD Card which was documented and seems to be well known.
The constant SD messages didn't bother me much, but eventually I noticed launch icons missing and went to the Market to re-download one of the apps I use (I've been flashing so much, I wasn't sure which apps I didn't bother restoring). The Market app tells me I need a SD Card to install apps, so I just figured it's just the instability of the sd card mount for this latest batch of ROMs and I'll flash an older ROM off my SD card when I get the chance. I also noticed the messages started saying I inserted a blank SD Card but I brushed it off (couldn't look into it at the time).
I get home and find out Clockwork refuses to mount my card which means I can't easily wipe and install something else, so I switch to USB storage mode in CWM to simply transfer a ROM from my PC and my PC only sees ~30mb of my 16GB SD! I initially thought it was just some corruption but I tried all sorts of format and partitioning programs and nothing recognizes more than 30mb of space and none have even been able to format that little space that's showing.
I've been Googling for a while and came up with nothing I haven't already tried so I finally decided to post here. Is there any hope for my SD card? Being the holiday season and for once I've got most of my Christmas shopping done early, I'd rather not waste the little money I have left to run out and buy another SD card right away if it's not necessary.
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Does anyone have any ideas how I could fix this? I'd greatly appreciate it because I now stuck with WM6.5 and realize how much I didn't miss it for the past year
This is also a heads up for testers to be sure to upgrade their ROM ASAP (or at least to the kernel that fixes this) if they're on a ICS ROM with an SD card bug. I'm not complaining - I know this is a part of testing early builds (please ignore my sorry post count; I've been flashing for quite a while) - but there's no reason for others to go through this issue if it can be helped.

Have you tried EaseUS?
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Yes,
Try Easus Partition Manager and/or MiniTool Partition Manager.
They can help but you will have to format your SD card I think.
Good luck!

I had the same problem. I plugged my card into a USB reader after it working error free, it then said it needed to be formatted and was only showing 30mb. After formatting repeatedly it still doesn't read. I haven't retired any positioning software but i think the card may just be done with.
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probably you'll need a replacement.
have you tried the SD formatter? there's like a 0.000001% chance it will work in your case, but why not try it?

2.3.5 U8800H SD Card "destroyed" or "unmount" bug

I have an U8800H for about a year. I've used a lot of ROMs with it, and most of them worked perfectly.
Some months ago, Huawei released the 2.3.5 Firmware update for our phone. I installed it and faced the lot of problems that most of them are by now well known and some of them repaired.
But one of these problems was the curious "SD destroyed" problem, that plagues -as I found- a lot of U8800 users but is also so sporadic that is very difficult to pinpoint - and is present in EVERY ROM that is based on 2.3.5 update (.35 kernel).
Let me explain:
After some days with the 2.3.5 update, my phone crashed and rebooted. When rebooted, I found that my Trancend 4GB SD card was not mounted anymore. The phone could not mount it and found it as "destroyed". When I tried to mount it again, some times the phone reported that "SD card was ready to be removed" or such, and others that the card was "destroyed".
The card, though, was perfectly readable by all of my PCs and other phones. The only way to mount it again in U8800 was to copy its contents somewhwere else, format it, put back the contents and insert it again in the phone, after rebooting it. And, strangely, the card was working again perfectly, for 1-2 days at least, until this problem repeat itself.
I thought that the problem was one of the stock ROM's many faults, so I tried a lot of other ROMS, like MIUI, CM7, etc. The problem repeated itself in every one of these ROMS.
I thought that my card was problematic, so I tried to use an older but perfectly unused 2GB Kingston SD card. The problems repeated with this card, also. I also used the new card with the other ROMs. I lost many hours and the problem was always there.
I also tried two 1 GB cards and three 16GB cards. I had the same experience with any of these, emerging after of 2-3 days of use of every card.
I found a lot of forum posts where users are reporting the same problem, without any solution, probably because it happens not to every phone and because it's also sporadic.
I thought that my phone was broken, so I installed the original stock ROM, as the service center would not accept it with a custom ROM. But when I reverted back to the original, the problem disappeared!
With the old stock ROM, everything is running perfectly and the SD card is always correctly mounted.
I tried to go back to the new custom ROMs, only to meet again with the same problem. The new "Gingerbread" ROMs, have obviously a bug!
Now I am using the old stock ROM and I have no problem, again.
I am writing all these to ask If someone has the same problem, and to report it as a bug that is hidden somewhere inside the .35 kernels.

You should have post this topic in the Q/A Section :|

It's not a question, its the report of a bug inside the .35 kernels. It's now specific to one of them, but present to all, that's why I had to create a new thread.
I have found also that the problem lies with the new gingerbread bootloaders and it is not present in the froyo bootloaders.

moving this thread to general section.

Try fix permissions in cwm. It works for me.
Sent from my U8800

I have the same problem with SD cards on my U8800.
It has destroyed 2 cards so far for me. When I first did the official gingerbread upgrade it didn't go well I had to try and install it multiple times and it kept going into boot loops. The end result was that my Class 10 16GB card became so damaged that it wasn't even detectable on multiple PCs with various card readers.
Thanks Huawei £15 down the drain.
My second card and I suspect my third card which is still in my phone, have problems with writing. Small writes are OK but as soon as something writes more than a few MB the card fails silently and the OS or phone thinks the file has been written but it hasn't and then subsequent writes fail. Unmounting and remounting the card in the phone makes it writable again for a while. These symptoms persist even when used on a PC so the phone is doing something bad which damages the card.
This problem occurs with dzo's ICS as well as official GB so I think the original posters assumption that it must be some code in the bootloader that is causing this problem is likely correct.
I'd love Huawei to fix this or find a workaround as I would rather not return my phone because I would likely only get refunded 50% of what I paid originally and I actually really like the phone.
Froyo roms worked fine with the SD card, it is definitely the poor quality Huawei update that has caused this.

I think I have an answer. Back when I started tampering with the phone I had changed the data/internal usb partition sizes as here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1112857.html
Somewhere I read about a user who had the same problem as us, and he had done the same change.
So today I reverted back to the original partition sizes, installed 2.3.5 stock ROM and the o/c kernel and until now I have no problem.
Maybe something in the new firmware doesn't like the changed partitions and thus the problem is created...
Sensimilla, If you also changed the partition sizes, then we have an answer.

Update: The bug reappeared. After 4-5 hours of heavy use, my 4GB card was once again "destroyed". So the partition sizes had nothing to do with it.
So, I tried what entrapmen suggested. I booted to recovery and chose "fix partitions". And it worked. My card was once again mounted correctly.
I don't know what to say. I will keep posting until we find a more permanent solution...

It seems I found a permanent solution: Install Aurora ICS 4.0.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492957
I am using it for about 20hours now and everything runs smoothly. Probably the new Android 4 bootloaders fixed the bug.
(And as an added bonus, our phone gets a radio!)
Hopefully it works for you, too.

lateris said:
It seems I found a permanent solution: Install Aurora ICS 4.0.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492957
I am using it for about 20hours now and everything runs smoothly. Probably the new Android 4 bootloaders fixed the bug.
(And as an added bonus, our phone gets a radio!)
Hopefully it works for you, too.
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Dont get much excited. Im using ics and time to time problem still occurs but not that much. Like i said before a fix permissions resolve the problem.
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It's nearly 3 days now with ICS 4.0.4 and the bug didn't appear - and I did some heavy testing. I transfered lots of small and big files to my 4GB card without the slightest problem many times.

I did some more testing on my sdcard and it is indeed damaged. It seems to have been set to read only permanently. Windows 7 doesn't detect this but I downloaded the official sdcard formatter from panasonic and it says the card is read only. Apparently there is a small protected section of the card that is hidden and used for DRM, read only can be marked in this section of the card. Normally this section is only writable by the card manufacturer. I guess as the phone has low level access to the card via hardware this section could have been inadvertently damaged by Huawei's bug ridden update. This is the same state that my previous card ended up in too.
The apparent writing to the card seems to just be the cache on the phone/computer which mounting and unmouting resets.
I will buy another small sdcard and just use it with ICS Aurora this time and see how it goes. I have been using Aurora for the last month anyway. Maybe it will be fourth time lucky.

Just clear the whole MicroSD card with dd program writing it full a random data first and then after that zero.
And if you can not detect the card at all with dmesg program, then that card is destroyed.

It's a week now with ICS Aurora 4.0.4 (206,207 and now 208) and the bug didn't appear at all.
I filled my -previously problematic with 2.3 ROMS- 4GB SD card fully, I even tried to stop file transfers abnormally, pulling the cable. But no problems appeared whatsoever.
So I have to believe that with 4.0.4 the problem is gone.

ICS - Move Apps to Internal USB-Storage

Hello Guys!
Searched the whole day for a solution bút nothing really answers my questions, so i will post here.
Is there any chance of moving apps from DeviceMemory (2GB) to the internal USB-Storage (11GB). I tried to use App2SD and tried it with the Android Onboard Tool but nothing will do it. It just keeps moving to external SD.
When the external SD is removed and you try to move an app there is just the advice: "not enough memory".
Addition: My memory option in settings looks like this:
http://s14.directupload.net/images/120513/3rhplf49.png
Total Memory: ~11GB
Other Data (red) - will show what u really use PLUS the amount of the external SD card
Is that the Problem that the OS thinks like in this Pic the USB Storage is too full (more full than its total size ^^) and let you only move to external SD?
Ok, long story short: Is there a way to move apps to the internal USB Storage?
Thanks!

Have you looked to see what's on you're internal sd? Remember that it won't be wiped by a normal ROM flash unless you specify, so data will build up flash by flash.
Sorry, I know it sounds pedantic, but first thing to try.
what spec phone do you have?
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If i move an app from applications in settings with the command "move to SD" i will see in the Storage overview that the device Storage gets smaller and the storage from external SD gets bigger.. The USB-Storage (internal SD) stay the same.
The path for the files were /mnt/asec (?) there i found some files..
And the thing with non wipe and data: Got my Note as off. ICS LPY was released and flashed it out of the box with ICS. There is nothing from older roms..
What do you mean with Spec Phone? I have a Austrian Galaxy Note GT-N7000 with official ICS LPY on it running..
PS: The problem with apps cant move to internal storage is also on Galaxy S2 present.
Can anyone try to move apps from device to the internal storage? I think that its a bug in ICS.

First things first, I would recommend downgrading to stock GB, check out Dr. ketans thread in the stickies of the ROM development thread.
It seems unlikely, but since your on lpy, there's a possibility that your data is corrupt, have to say am not sure about this at all.
There's also a thread about the issues with lpy, lpf kernel that's worth reading from abisahara.
Please, anyone else have any further recommendations, please ignore me.
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First of all thanks for your attempt to help me out.
But whats the sense of downgrading? And nope, data isn´t corrupt can move things from pc to the phone without any problem, everthing is OK.
The only problem is to move Apps to internal USB-Storage (11GB) that wont work. There are others too with this problem and their phone never touched custom rom or anything, just the official ICS OTA Update.
Btw. i remeber i saw peopole with Galaxy S2 with the same problem on the net.
You have a Note too - try it for yourself to move apps from Device Mem (2GB) to Internal USB.Storage (11GB). I bet it wont work. Its not a special problem to me i think its a general problem.
Also is the data corruption not an effect from wiping? Havent wiped my phone yet one time..
regards.

Data corruption occurs from any large data movement, weather it's wipe, or deleting large files, there's suggestion that 2GB is the danger point but I experienced issues after writing a 500mb file that started fcs across the board.
I'm more than likely overreacting and apologies for this. Maybe someone with more experience can help better.
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Hey.
Just forget the data corruption, man! I´m fine with this till now and that doenst belong to my problem..
I just want to put some apps (e.g angry birds) to my internal USB Storage and that dont work i only can move apps to the real external SD, other people have the problem too and i want to know if this is on all ICS releases from Samsung with splitted memory??

@Jaysus88, I understand your problem and frustration since I have the exactly same problem and frustration. After some search, I feel the problem may be because some phone manufacturers disabled the "Move to USB storage" capability. BTW, my phone is Samsung Galaxy Note-N7000 with ICS.
I just registered the account to share potential solutions. I was suggested two solutions (I haven't got chance to try them myself yet):
1. Root the system and somehow re-partition the internal storage to increase "Device memory" (and shrink "USB storage").
2. Add an actual SD card and "Move to SD card" instead of "Move to USB storage".
(just realized that new users cann't post links :-( )
Both 1 and 2 have limitations that I don't know for sure:
For 1, is it really possible to re-size the storage partitions after rooting the phone?
For 2, ICS may not support some SD cards; moving too many apps to SD card may also cause rebooting issues for Android (we can easily find a lot of complaints about this issue, such as the Android issue id 25563 on google code).
If you find another more robust solution, I would love to hear about it! This is another reason I registered my account.

Hi!
Found that in Themes & Apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652079
This will change the mounting points for external and internal SD. It should work.
For myself i leave it as it is.

Galaxy S4 problem, App2SD don't work - NO ROOT - newest update (german version)

Hi there. Maybe someone can help me. I searched already and it seems that no one other have this problem. i only found solutions with rooting.
in latest update samsung brought the app2sd funktion (Build JDQ39J9505XXUBMEA).
It works fine, i can move parts of my apps to my SD card. Now there are 8GB on external SD. (apps roundabout 6GB)
But now the problem - the apps still stay in the internal storage,too ... in full size. so the size for apps is still at 6GB. move back and try again don't help. even when i move a 1,9GB game from SD to internal, the internal gets 100mb fuller. maybe there is a failure in read out the storages....
i hope some other people have the same problem, i don't want to reset my phone or try anything in this way and maybe its a general problem, then i hope i can wait for a new update.
so, anyone here with a similar problem?
thanks

Cara84 said:
Hi there. Maybe someone can help me. I searched already and it seems that no one other have this problem. i only found solutions with rooting.
in latest update samsung brought the app2sd funktion (Build JDQ39J9505XXUBMEA).
It works fine, i can move parts of my apps to my SD card. Now there are 8GB on external SD. (apps roundabout 6GB)
But now the problem - the apps still stay in the internal storage,too ... in full size. so the size for apps is still at 6GB. move back and try again don't help. even when i move a 1,9GB game from SD to internal, the internal gets 100mb fuller. maybe there is a failure in read out the storages....
i hope some other people have the same problem, i don't want to reset my phone or try anything in this way and maybe its a general problem, then i hope i can wait for a new update.
so, anyone here with a similar problem?
thanks
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Hi,
The latest firmwares will let you move the apps to the sd card,but they will not move the data.
This does not help at all.
The only way to do this is to use FOLDERMOUNT
You must be rooted for this.